here is the lineup for the fighting games released in next year
are you hyped for any of those?

Grimmer than grim.

Don't care, will continue playing Rising.

All will be dead within a month of release because fighting gaem can't handle two niggas punching each other without the netcode shitting its soul

when is combo devils coming out?

>>714522452
>killmonger haircut nigger in front
yup its sloppa

>>714522120 (OP)
I will only get Nen Impact.

>>714522120 (OP)
>zero hype
>development hell and little remaining hype
>only thing worth being excited for
>looks janky as fuck
>already forgotten

>>714522120 (OP)
Tokon is probably the only tag fighter that will be decent in this list

>>714522120 (OP)
lol

Oh wooooow. Is that a bunch of shit lined up against a wall?

Goddamn I'll never get why people like fighting games. God bless your souls.

>>714524621
Only good pvp genre to play. Old games are better though.

why every fighting game is like this

>>714525320
Average Sol mirror

>>714522120 (OP)
Marvel Tokon, maybe. Not into tag fightans so... Probably not actually. Curious to see the roster and redesigns.
I'll stay on Samsho I guess.

>>714522120 (OP)
Fighting games are all the same exact shit.

>>714522120 (OP)
HxH is like anti shounen, nothing in it ever concludes in a hype fight. I'll never understand how it ever got popular. They should sincerely axe the author's lazy ass.

>>714525567
It’s a soft seinen mixed with shounen. Togashi is one of the greatest Japanese writers in history.

MARVEL 4?? WITHOUT CAPCOM???

>>714522120 (OP)
>all those fucked up guaranteed to flop titles aren't still out yet

might I interest you in some melty blood?
lobby: 2085

>>714522120 (OP)
I am old and bitter so I don't feel "hype" anymore, but I believe Tokon might be fun to play. I hope it has a cool roster.

This is just the start. More fighting games are coming for EVO.

>>714526494
Why the FUCK would anyone who has seen Street Fighter 6 want MORE fighting games made by them?
A new Marvel fighting game made without them is a blessing, the last thing we need is more RE engine abortions walking around.
Capcom is gone.
Whatever was good about them is gone.

>>714526494
Capcom side of the characters were always fucking untouched apart from Dante

>>714522120 (OP)
>hyped
sure
I can't wait to play them for 2 weeks and then everyone goes back to SF6

>>714522120 (OP)
I'll probably play Tokon, the rest looks awful

>>714526639
FT2 and then rotate?

>>714528073
yeah sure this is my first tmie with more than 2 pople l in the lobby lol go for it

>>714528141
btw sorry I was full sceen didn't notice someone join please join back

>>714527869
Thanks for confirming you never played MvsC.

Terrible
Pretty mediocre
Terrible
Terrible
Ok

We need SC7 and Bloody Roar instead

>HXH
Jank umvc3 made by the same people who made umvc3. might be good kusoge.
>2XKO
dead on arrival. been in development for 10 years and only 12 character roster. also comes with vanguard. hard pass.
>Tokon
love japanese marvel designs so much better than western ones. will buy.
>invincible
the animations look MK tier. fuck mortal kombat. also RIP being a combat designer means that itll be fucking SHIT.
>VF
that shit isnt coming out until 2027.

which fighting games would let me to dash and light attack

>>714528776
WAN BATTAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w1u44ST64Q

>>714522120 (OP)
Tokon is the only thing here filling a demand. Everything else is just "lol it exists".

>>714522120 (OP)
No, all them except VF are 1 button special brain dead offence tag kuso slop, and i dont hold out much hope that VF wont also be modernized shit too

how tf do i learn KOF '02 UM

>>714528969
Tokon has motion inputs

I'm more curious about Nen Impact because at least it looks like the fun kind of kusoge whereas 2XKO looks like a tedious, unfun piece of shit

>>714529083
you play the game
scary i know

You guys are yolo mashing remedial bums

need to afk for a bit

daily reminder

>>714531537
they should get these jeets to work on the games op mentioned since sf6
is the best most fun fighter ever made.

>>714522120 (OP)
>The future is IP based fighters and then Virtua Fighter
Can't say I'm all too excited. Tokon has SOME promise but I'm not 100% keen on Arcsys at the moment. Will really have to see the universal mechanics, solo character potential, and the roster.
I don't believe in hype or bandwagoning without warrant.

Does creamapi for DLC characters work online

>>714522452
Without looking up any videos or screenshots I get the sense this is a smash clone. Something about the way the characters are both rendered and arranged in the image gives that impression

>>714522120 (OP)
The hunter x hunter one will not be able to live up to the manga and so it will be massively disappointing.

>>714529383
anon, there's a DEMO available right now

>>714532207
I know, I've seen gameplay of both and at least HxH looks funny

>>714532107
You can tell it's a platform fighter when the characters have distinct bodytypes. Only anime fighters come close.

>>714526639
GGs

>>714531813
Depends on the game. SF6, no. Locally only.
Strive? Yes.

>>714522120 (OP)
a fighting game based on arcane is actually a good idea, they had a lot of memorable characters in that show

>>714535371
>based on arcane
do zoomoids really

>>714535142
ggs anon thanks for the games

>>714535235
Is there a way to tell

>>714535371
Better than a fighting game based on Ruined King, that's for sure.

>>714526639
What version for the cccaster do you guys play on?
Stable or dev?

>>714535702
I didn't know there were, let me check.

>>714535702
lol

>>714522120 (OP)
The only fighting game I like that was released after 2000 is Garou MOTW so no, I'm not hyped for tag slop

>>714535702
alright dude idk what dev version you talking about I'm on the 3.1 version which I assume is the late[st]

>>714522120 (OP)
>Nen Impact
budget as fuck, probably not great. might try it because I like HxH but no Neferpitou sucks
>2XKO
10 characters on release for a tag fighter that's been in-dev for this long is crazy, and Riot in general is trash. I think they also confirmed no Yordles so hard pass.
>Tokon
don't know enough yet, but it's probably going to be fine but 4v4 sounds like a mess or like characters will be really basic
>Invincible
It's supposedly ex-KI devs so I want to be hype but all the characters shown off so far have been boring and I hate Invincible anyway
>VF
never tried VF. I probably will now

>>714535590
unironically, the site that provides creamapi.
cs rin.
Making an account is worth being able to search alone.
I actually base most of my game purchases off of being able to use creamapi for the DLC, lol..

>>714536037
>I think they also confirmed no Yordles so hard pass.
What, no they didn't

>>714522120 (OP)
>HxH
i liked the anime but the game looks too cheap for me to care
>2XKO
could not care less about league and the game doesn't look that great either but since it's free i may give it a few days to see how i like it
>Tokon
don't like marvel, wish it was something like BlazBlue or DBFZ instead. i'll try a beta but i have no interest in this outside of liking arcsys
>Invincible
who? even less interesting cape shit
>VF
this one is actually interesting, hope it'll be good and replace Tekken. but realistically i doubt it

>>714537169
>hope it'll be good
It might
>and replace Tekken
It won't.
Brand power is incredibly strong, it's genuinely amazing.
Namco absolutely shit the bed with Tekken 8 in ways rarely seen before, but brand loyalty is truly an astounding phenomenon.

>>714522120 (OP)
None of the licensed IPs appeal to me. I'll probably keep playing Rivals of Aether 2 for the next year. Devs just confirmed another wave of 4 free DLC characters so I'm a happy camper.

>>714522120 (OP)
>2xko

So is that
>double knockout
>double cross knock out
>two time knock out
>two ex Kay oh
>two time kiddy offender
>toxtwokay

>>714537802
Even the devs don't know and they said "say whatever lol"

>>714537830
that's how you KNOW all their proposed names were rejected for the terrible idea a slick Riot marketer shat out

>>714522120 (OP)
They should delay nen impact indefinitely just for authenticity

>>714538007
kek

>>714522120 (OP)
never liked tag fighters
I only briefly played vf4evo and vf5fs but what I remember of those two was positive enough to consider giving vf6 a try when it's out in 2027/2028
it's dead anime fighters until then

It's funny how even normalfags shit on mk now

>>714540456
They don’t, this was made by a seething GG troon

>>714540121
How is this game so fucking ugly?

>>714540635
Tekkencel, actually

You think Mori is still actively seething about leaving ArcSys

>>714541517
He seems to not be on poor terms with them considering he retweeted their announcement about the last stream, scaring every Blazblue player.

>>714541517
Mori owes me sex

alrights GGs brother that was really fun I didn't expect the balls to put so much work in LMAO
thanks for the games to all happy fourth of july ive gotta get out of my cave now
>>714526639
lobby closesd

>>714542250
Thanks, gg
I need to learn how to confirm off of some of those stray hits

>>714542250
Why u didn't challenged me

>>714542568
who were you I only saw 3 ppl len the other len and "gameplay booster" which I did try challengeing a bunch but got no response so I thought maybe it's a bot

MORE lobbies
Now

>>714543818
It's 3 am

>>714534936
i play most of these

>>714522120 (OP)
only tokon will be good

grim

>>714543949
why lie

>>714541517
His only regret is probably actually making the Blazblue fighting games and not being able to lead with the gacha
Mori is an absolute retard with 0 taste

>>714540456
>Kazuya
>MC of Tekken
He wasn't the MC since the first game.

>>714544202
>troonkon
>good
lmao

>>714544202
>arcsys tranny
>pedophile
yep it checks out

>>714544817
>denuvo

fuck off

Your main is gay

>>714525320
I just realized that was an install, lol.

>>714522120 (OP)
I‘m interested in tokon but only if playing 1 character with 3 assists is actually viable. Not gonna switch characters every 3 seconds like a spastic and i don‘t know why they would make a tag fighter in the first place if they‘re trying to capture the casual audience

>want to play with internet friend on Fightcade
>get black screen after "Connected"
>I can play with others
>he can play with others too
I don't get it. We play often, but sometimes this happens quite randomly.

>>714544817
This is like that Spider-Man meme with the glasses lmao

>>714525320
Kino

>>714522120 (OP)
All of these games will flop.

>>714531537
>Street Shitter 6

>>714540653
RE engine

I hate Siegfried's stupid projectile so much bros

>>714551793
It‘ll be very hard for tokon to flop but it won‘t sustain a big playerbase

>>714525320

>>714551936
And people though Marvel vs Capcom was in a much better place before it killed itself. Just because it's a Marvel fighting game with seasoned developers behind it doesn't mean it's going to be good. I think ArcSys have it together better than Capcom did at the time, and sure DBFighterz was a huge success, and you've got Marvel Rivals going which while not a fighting game, shows Marvel can still work as a gaming brand. But at the same time I wouldn't say it's really guaranteed to be successful. Like you said I don't think it's gonna keep the players, but I also don't expect it to bring in a ton either. The more time passes, the less people care about 2D fighting games, just my observation. These games heavily relied on their scene to keep them afloat, and with less physical tournaments taking place because of the lockdown retardation, covid really fucked up the momentum for fighting games or esports in general, and we certainly don't have arcade culture around where fighting games could really thrive.

>arckuso
No thanks

>>714552201
fighting games are more popular than ever tho

>>714552796
lol

>>714552796
Anon that literally couldn't be any further from the truth.
Tekken Players are disenfranchised, which leaves Street Fighter as the other top dog which is the only one that seems to be doing well compared to all of the others. The platform fighters flopped, the indie fighters flopped. Most of the other ones are extremely obscure and have very small active player bases, and the big new title that had a huge marketing budget, Fatal Fury COTW flopped hilariously. There's less tournaments than there used to be for just about any fighting game and that's not good for the scene overall.

>>714523372
>Modern ArcSys braindead slop
>Worth being excited for
LMAO

>>714553265
>There's less tournaments than there used to be for just about any fighting game and that's not good for the scene overall.
????
There quite literally has never been this many actual tournaments
Entrant numbers for majors are also breaking records

>>714553319
My bad, I'm running off old information but I guess they've bounced back since the lockdown era? I know some games didn't really bounce back though. What are the popular games?

How are the viewers? Do the players even enjoy playing the games? As far as I can tell there's no genuine excitement over this genre. Nobody ever seems to have anything good to say about modern fighting games.

>>714553265
It's fascinating how people here so confidently say shit which has no basis in reality.

>>714531813
>>714535235
Would this work for SFV's limited time dlc?

>>714522120 (OP)
None of those games is SoulCalibur VII, so I'm not hyped at all.

>>714555406
I hope that we never get Amy back

>>714522120 (OP)
Another riotslop... what genre haven't they suck at yet?

>>714555479
Why? ;_;

>>714555568
Her looks might be good but her kit is fucking cancer

>>714555568
Pls no bully the Teto

>>714522120 (OP)
I wanted an Image Comics tag fighter for a while, but basing Invincible VS on the show instead of the comics is a letdown. There aren't enough characters with unique movesets in the first three seasons of the show, all the strongest characters are Viltrumites, Allen, Bulletproof, all characters who are just "fly and punch really hard." Characters who could have great movesets haven't peaked yet; I think Robot could be a great character but he needs his Anti-Viltrumite Suit (pic, spoilers for later seasons) and the abilities it gives him

>>714522120 (OP)
Du-du-du-du-du-du-duuuuuu... DISCORD FIGHTER!

>>714544817
I'm thinking about buying it but I'm not sure

TRVTH NVKE INBOVND

>>714555947
Is this that guy from TNS? I forget his name.

>>714555593
Eh, I disagree. The thing about her is that most attacks do very little damage and her chances of victory strongly depend on how many big combos she can get in (which depends on luck) and how well she can snowball with roses. It's one of those characters where some people insist that she's good, but barely anyone uses her competitively at high level. She's just a character where it feels like a robbery if you lose, but people don't realize that the difference between losing and being able to win against Amy is probably smaller than any other character just due to how she works. Japanese players think (correctly, IMO) that she's low tier and there are almost no Amy players competing in tournies in the West, either. PartyWolf tried at the last Combo Breaker iirc and even got to finals where he lost to Incendiate, but I think that was only because someone else challenged people to win with Amy. PartyWolf switched to 2B come next tournament.

>>714556094
Not every single thing is about tiers, sometimes even a really weak low tier can be pure cancer to play against. The way Amy changes the pace of the game is just annoying, at least for me.

>>714555593
>>714556094
Correction: it was NovaMage not PartyWolf

>>714522120 (OP)
Where is injustice 3???????

>>714522120 (OP)
Only 2XKO and even then just slightly. Tag slop might as well be the dark ages.

Why do people sperg out about Tag Fighters so fiercely?
I agree that simple, traditional fighters that use Rounds are better but I won't outright refuse to play something just because it's Tag.

>>714522120 (OP)
>80% are tagshit
pray to god VF6 does the best out of those I'll throw in some well-wishes for HxH just because of 8ing

>>714522120 (OP)
The Spiderman game has a chance.
I hope Virtua Fighter do well but probably not.
The rest is just trash.

>>714556590
they watch one tournament of mvc2 and rightfully write off the entire sub-genre

>>714534936
I've jerked it to doujins of most of these

>>714556225
I don't feel the same way because I know that it's necessary to put in effort in order to play her well, essentially unlocking her good parts during the match. There are characters that I dislike fighting against much more. For example: Talim has an i12 mid kick that tech crouches, with knockdown on hit. She can use it to abare in nearly every situation against closer-hitting characters. Her strings with million hits are also very annoying. Taki has kicks and other attacks with fucked-up frame data and a mid unblockable from possession that's impossible to react to a lot of the time when you counter in online latency. Both easier to play than Amy and also more cancer, IMO.

>>714534936
Plus R is the only one I’ve played for months

>>714556590
>Why do people sperg out about Tag Fighters so fiercely?
>>>714556590
>Why do people sperg out about Tag Fighters so fiercely?
I see people a loud amount of people glazing over DBFZ, BBtag and UMVC3 and i say "Yep, this sub-genre is cooked"

>>714556652
>I'll throw in some well-wishes for HxH
Hahaha game is cooked. 7 buttons, sloppy control scheme, 1 button everyone, auto throws, its literally over

>>714558332
Where are the one piss games?

>>714558332
>auto throws
What do you mean by this?

>>714522120 (OP)
I'm only slightly interested in playing VF and maybe Marvel Tokon.
Nen Impact is probably gonna be hype to watch but I personally don't like playing MAHVEL too much beyond a few sets with friends, Invincible got ex KI guys behind it so I'm curious to see where it goes. 2XKO looks like ass and I am not downloading Riots shitty launcher to try it.

Still playing sf6
Still blasting modern
Still having fun

>>714555947
Persona is gay so of course I'm not going to play that.

>>714558447
I think he means proximity throws, i.e. you grab your opponent by getting close and pressing forward or back plus a button

>>714558596
Still not getting anywhere near that game because of niggers like you. If I had to learn how to do a QCF in order to play these games, so should everyone else.

I think I'm gonna host an SC6 lobby in a few minutes to half an hour given that there seem to be people who play it ITT.

>>714553292
t. Signed the Carl petition

>>714558814
Isn’t that every game

>>714551936
Yeah it will lol. Any fighting game as long as it looks nice will sustain

>>714553265
City of the Wolves had a huge marketing budget but that marketing was horribly misaimed and mine bogglingly delusional.
It doesn’t help that SNK games still look like cheapo shovelware.

steam://joinlobby/544750/109775241113167975/76561199021052341

>>714559892
And play like it too

>>714522452
this game is gonna be so fucking dead

I love fighting games but competing against strangers is too stressful for me

>>714559686
Some games have a dedicated throw button. In games with proximity throws, if you do forward+button while not meeting the requirements to throw, your character won't go into a whiff throw animation, they'll instead throw out an attack.

>>714559686
Many games require you to press 2 specific buttons for a throw, precisely to avoid getting a throw when what you really wanted was a close Fierce or whatever. Also you can theoretically attempt a throw literally anywhere; it won't do you any good, but if you press the two buttons your character will have some kind of failed throw animation.

>>714553619
NTA but it’s because the people most involved in the FGC as you and I know it are old guys and the old guys hate modern fighters for a variety of reasons. But that isn’t stopping all the zoomers and Gen Alpha’s playing Street Fighter 6 or Guilty Gear Strive or whatever else from flooding Evo with more entrants than they’ve ever had.
Basically, the FGC is undergoing generational replacement. Modern fighters are the way they are because more people buy them and they have way better player retention

>>714560318
what's your favorite fighting game?

Did Cristiano Ronaldo and that retarded DJ that SNK's Saudi overlords forced into CotW actively hurt sales or was it more just that no one cared?

Also is Killer Instinct 2013 still alive?

>>714560318
I think a common misconception from this is that new games retain more players because they're easier, but I would argue better netcode is the reason. I'd be curious to see what would have happened if netcode got better without games being simplified. Modern controls might help but I feel the difficulty of motions are exaggerated.

>>714560318
>zoomie-friendly fighting games have abhorrent fucking mechanics and characters
>but they are commercially successful so they are effectively here to stay
I HATE the new generations

>>714560508
Netcode absolutely fucking helps, fighting a Chippfag from the land down under gets tiring after a while

>>714522120 (OP)
I just need to see a little bit more of Tokkon

Still surprised that zoomers apparently consume fighting game stuff, every time I see any tournament or even social gathering based around fighting games, it's 95% guys in their 30s and 40s

>>714560493
I might be a minority in this but I would've bought it if they had Freeman instead of those two guests

>>714559914
dang, I'd join if I wasn't an exhausted nigga who needs to wake up early
have fun calibro

>>714560445
Tough question. Growing up my friends and I played a lot of stuff like Third Strike and TTT2 and MK9 and SF4 even though we were obviously dogshit at them. Skullgirls was the first game I really tried to learn but I wouldn’t say I truly got good until GG Strive. Since then I’ve gone back and put hours into a bunch of shit.
So I guess to answer your question Skullgirls is the most important to me but the best one is probably +R or Third Strike on fightcade, but right now I’m playing Grubble. I really want to get into 3D fighters too but I missed the boat on Tekken 7 and T8 is pretty offputting right now.

Do you think ArcSys is going to bless us with a Psylocke with a FAT ass?
I hope they do.

>>714560493
I don't think it hurt sales by a sizable amount. But it clearly didn't help sales.
To me, the addition of those two fags and two SF characters being added later comes off as extremely insecure. Shows that they have no confidence in their original characters and need to rely on non-SNK properties to attract people.

>>714522120 (OP)
Tokon may be good. VF will be good. All else is slop.

>>714560842
>japs
>FAT ass
unlikely
inb4 someone posts an ass that's lowercase fat instead of FAT

>>714560842
Are you really doubting ArcSys and bodacious bitches in their games
Psylocke might be a really good DLC bait though, so there's a chance she wont make it during launch

>>714560775
Thanks. I also don't play as much as I used to recently because it's way too hot and I also feel exhausted in the evening/at night. I'm in a different time zone and I just woke up recently, though.

>>714560917
>He doesn't know

>>714560508
The netcode is definitely a major component (probably the biggest component as you’ve said) but I think simplification has played a role too. One of the biggest appeals of fighting games is the ability to do cool looking things. Now, I think if the ability to do cool shit is too easy it loses a lot of its appeal (aka the arena fighter problem). But if it’s too hard a lot of people just won’t bother because it’s a level of execution they don’t want to deal with to do something cool.
See Xrd to Strive. Xrd was shilled endlessly and had a dedicated streamboar audience and looked amazing especially when compared to its contemporaries yet it never translated into sales. It was simply too hard for most people to want to bother with and that’s why Strive is the way that it is. It probably didn’t have to be as dramatic of a skill floor/ceiling crash but I think it’s inarguable that Strive being easier has translated into success.

>>714522120 (OP)
Please for the love of god make the new VF good Sega
3D fighting game is literally just Tekken now

>>714560875
I think it’s what I said up here >>714559892
It was a horribly misaimed attempt to drag in normies. The capper on the most insane marketing campaign for any fighting game ever,

>>714560972
Say what you will about Strive but Millia looks like she’s ready to pop out an entire baseball team

>>714537679
Sex

>>714537679
I am not a furry but I want to FUCK that green raccoon.

>>714522120 (OP)
fighting games are for subhuman niggers. Go play something normal in your life.

>>714561348
I wonder. Strive to me feels like they made it easier by making there be nothing cool you can do. I see a lot of new players get frustrated or bored with it because of various things like how quick rounds end, and if I was in charge of strive development I'd have made every character play like +R but made combos, hurtboxes, and frcs easier to deal with. I actually think Blazblue and Strive don't have a large gap in how inherently popular they are. If bbcf came out instead of strive, at the same time and with the same netcode, I think it might do as good or even better. Blazblue feels like the best mix between complexity and ease of use. To put it simply, most players want games that aren't too hard but still have a lot of depth to dive into, and the current generation of fighting games skipped the depth part by chasing the easy part.

>>714561967
>Strive to me feels like they made it easier by making there be nothing cool you can do
If you’re approaching it from the perspective of someone already into anime fighters then yeah I agree. To everyone else not into anime games Strive is still an anime game, just more accessible.
>I see a lot of new players get frustrated or bored with it because of various things like how quick rounds end
Now these are Strive specific design flaws but that hasn’t changed the fact that people are still playing the game, more so than they’ve played any other Arcsys game before outside of DBFZ.
>I actually think Blazblue and Strive don't have a large gap in how inherently popular they are. If bbcf came out instead of strive, at the same time and with the same netcode, I think it might do as good or even better
I mean this in the nicest way possible when I say you’re insane. Even completely ignoring gameplay I think Blazblue’s aesthetic is just an immediate turn off in a way Strive’s isn’t. Blazblue is just too anime looking for most people; as soon as they see Platinum the Trinity or Mu-12 their eyes glaze over and if that doesn’t do it seeing how long basic BnBs are will.
A true anime airdasher is just too much of a normie repellent and especially one that looks like Blazblue.

>New games bad because less options
>These old games you had even less options like 3rd strike or SF4 are better tho

>>714562953
Maybe my own preferences are clouding my idea of what most people would want, but bbcf is resiliently active. If it was the game Arcsys holds tournaments for and puts dlc in I could see it beating Strive's, precisely because it has more depth without being very hard. Anime as an aesthetic is a lot less disliked than you probably think. Strive still has anime designs and the only characters I see art for are like Baiken and Dizzy. Es and Mai cover that same thing and there's other characters that I think fit archetypes that get popular more than most guilty gear characters, also Rachel or even Platinum that you mentioned.

>>714563601
Who are you quoting?

I can't fucking believe the secondaries in these threads are so fucking out of touch they think """"anime""""" is an aesthetic
Yes there is one anime and that is Blazblue and you can go watch any anime right now and it looks like Blazblue
No Blazblue didn't turn people off because it "looked anime", it did because it looked like horrid dogshit

>>714563791
Blazblue outsold guilty gear and has more players than sf4 or sfv, you're right it didn't turn people off.

>>714563791
My favorite part is how early Blazblue sprites looked way worse than XX sprites.

>>714560508
net code helps, but you severely underestimate how much easier modern controls makes it for new people to stick with the game, modern was a huge reason why SF6 blew up because a lot of newer people could play which also led to vtubers playing and starting to organize community tournaments around SF6. So these things all work together.

Oldfags, how overpowered was vanilla X2's Robo-Ky? As far as I can tell he's basically just Shin Akuma to Ky with green skin and a filter over his voice, is this right?

>>714560701
zoomers are far less likely to actually go to locals or in person tournaments because their upbringing has made them really sheltered and terminally online, this is also why when you see the worst fucking takes on FGC twitter it's always a zoomer and probably a Strive player but they do still show up for big tournaments and theres a lot of new pros taking victories.

>>714564039
>>714564039
He and Ky's EX mode shared a few moves from memory, but yes, he was banned from tournaments until Vanilla was superseded by #Reload.

>>714563661
>but bbcf is resiliently active
It is, but we're still talking about a niche of a niche here (airdasher fans).
Strive dumped the airdasher fans in favor of trying to access the wider (still very niche) FGC. I think the results speak for themselves.
>Anime as an aesthetic is a lot less disliked than you probably think
The anime people like, at least in the west, looks closer to Strive than it does to Blazblue imo. And while you're right that a character like Rachel inspires a lot of fanart that doesn't necessarily translate into players.
For a recent, non-FGC example look at how Blue Archive is fucking *dominating* Comiket this year despite making way less money than Umamusume. People love to spend money on seeing BA lolis and JKs getting cock but when it comes to spending money and playing the game horse girl racing mogs it completely despite being substantially less sexualized.
This isn't a commentary on sexualization its just an example of fanworks =/= players

>>714522120 (OP)
VF forever

>>714563601
Third Strike only sucks if you play it at a high level which is very few people overall. At mid level its excellent.

>>714563791
"Anime" in this case could really be a stand-in for "aggressively Japanese".
Sometimes things are aggressively Japanese and its good like Umamusume, because they focus on just a couple of really Japanese things.
Blazblue is a fucking mishmash of every trope under the sun. Its visual vomit except for Rachel's stage which is the best fighting game stage ever.

It's funny how fast everyone turned on 2XKO after Tokon was announced.

>>714564121
Its a Striver if its a westerner but its a DIxer if its a Japanese player.

>>714564590
Everyone had already turned on 2XKO after the "alpha" was a complete lame it out kusoge like SFxT and then we learned it was gonna launch with 10 characters so enjoy endless Darius/Ahri matches.
Tokon just bulldozed it.

>>714564383
That depends on how you look at the results. Strive is at 1590 right now, with CF at 229. This may sound surprising, but these results make me think CF would be comparably successful if it had released at the time that Strive did. Strive didn't ever get close to the truly big fighting games, so I can't see Strive's level as something Blazblue couldn't reach without simplification. This is a whole other topic but BA is insanely cheap to roll in and easy to go f2p on, its fanart does translate to players, but I'll skip that because this is a fighting game thread. In the west too, the kind of anime Blazblue leans towards is always rising in popularity. I guess you mean Strive leans more towards shounen? That would give it an edge in the west until recent years but the rest of anime has rapidly got more popular everywhere. I think guilty gear lacks striking designs for the most part compared to blazblue, save for some girls like Baiken, and maybe Sol. Hazama and Hakumen are better than 99% of gg males in how well they appeal to people, and it has Es and so on to go for the same audience as Baiken.

Any good rumours and old urban myths pertaining to secret stuff in fighting games? I'm thinking stuff like Sheng Long and Ermac.

>>714522120 (OP)
I sleep, i will continue playing the game i've been playing for more than 20 years instead

>>714565375
Based KoF 2002 Mexican

What is it about the UMK3 ninja template that makes it the most commonly used one?

>>714522120 (OP)
I only care if it's arcana heart

>>714564383
>People love to spend money on seeing BA lolis and JKs getting cock but when it comes to spending money and playing the game horse girl racing mogs it completely despite being substantially less sexualized.
Umamusume's parent company takes issue with H-doujins because the girls are based off of real horses that are still alive in most cases and horseracing in Japan has ties to yakuza.

>>714565269
Dante as a guest character in SoulCalibur III.

>>714565085
>Strive is at 1590 right now, with CF at 229
Strive is also deep into one of its worst patches in its second worst season. A year ago it was hitting 3k+ averages. I genuinely think CF would be Granblue-tier at best even at its height.
>Strive didn't ever get close to the truly big fighting games, so I can't see Strive's level as something Blazblue couldn't reach without simplification
Strive's success is obviously not comparable to Street Fighter or Tekken. But compared to *everything* else it is easily one of the most successful fighters in recent memory and certainly for Arcsys.
>In the west too, the kind of anime Blazblue leans towards is always rising in popularity
Maybe I'm just completely out of touch (and I mean that sincerely is Solo Leveling really popular with weebs these days?) but whenever I think of "modern" anime fans they tend to favor more grounded aesthetics in their shounenshit (and yes both GG and BB are shounenshit, just of different flavors).
Strive is a more grounded look than old GG and a significantly more grounded look than BB. I think that gives it an edge with normies who make up a large portion of the Strive community (obviously the other part is troons but I don't want to touch that or them).
>I think guilty gear lacks striking designs for the most part compared to blazblue
Honestly I think its about the same and its more of an artstyle thing than a design thing. Each game has a couple of memetic characters (mainly coomers) like Baiken and Bridget for GG and Makoto and Mai for BB, but overall I'd say that the designs are really down to preference, on that Strive edges out on imo. Like show someone Strive Slayer vs Valkenhayn and I expect Slayer to win that contest.
>and it has Es and so on to go for the same audience as Baiken
I'd actually argue the equivalent there is Bullet. People like Baiken because she looks like a cool badass ontop of big fat tits. Es has fat tits but doesn't have the cool badass thing going on.

>>714565764
Anon there is plenty of Uma porn its just not tagged. No one is getting whacked for showing Daiwa Scarlet having her twintails used as handlebars.
Or reigns, I guess.

>>714565995
>its just not tagged
Yes, because they know they could go after them if they tagged it. And to be clear, I didn't mean yakuza guys beating them up but Cygames attempting copyright litigation. My point was that Umamusume has different standards than most other games and gacha due to the nature of what it's based off of. There's no law in Japan that says doujins have to be allowed and most companies only allow them voluntarily.

>>714565934
>But compared to *everything* else it is easily one of the most successful fighters in recent memory and certainly for Arcsys.
I know that, but I’m arguing that the netcode and timing for Strive’s release is the biggest source of that, and I believe Blazblue could match or exceed it given the same circumstances, and wouldn’t need simplification to do so.
>whenever I think of "modern" anime fans they tend to favor more grounded aesthetics in their shounenshit
That’s still the majority, but the gap has rapidly closed. I see more people I know in person being fans of both less grounded anime and also cuter anime. I felt like Strive got less grounded so I’m a little surprised you say that, it feels closer to Blazblue than old gg aesthetically to me.
>show someone Strive Slayer vs Valkenhayn and I expect Slayer to win that contest
I agree on that specific comparison, but I think there’s nobody in guilty gear you could do that with for Hakumen or Hazama, and Azrael is cooler than Slayer with his personality but Slayer might have a more immediately appealing design than Azrael.
>Es has fat tits but doesn't have the cool badass thing going on.
She’s kind of a mix between Baiken and Dizzy, or I’d just say she’s her own thing. Just I think Blazblue’s girls appeal to the same audience Baiken and Dizzy (and other gg girls) do, and Blazblue also has lolis which Guilty Gear mostly lacks (May is a weird case with her current design).

>>714566946
>I know that, but I’m arguing that the netcode and timing for Strive’s release is the biggest source of that, and I believe Blazblue could match or exceed it given the same circumstances,
Centralfiction was updated with rollback netcode shortly after Strive's release and it didn't become more popular because of it.

>>714567283
I’m talking about if it had been released as the newest arcsys game, in place of strive, and been a new game at that time, with support from arcsys like dlc, updates, and tournaments.

>>714566946
>I know that, but I’m arguing that the netcode and timing for Strive’s release is the biggest source of that, and I believe Blazblue could match or exceed it given the same circumstances, and wouldn’t need simplification to do so.
I think we mostly agree that the simplification wasn't entirely necessary and that netcode was the primary factor. The only place were we disagree is if CF or a game like it could have been that game instead of Strive.
>it feels closer to Blazblue than old gg aesthetically to me.
Hmmm...I guess a better way to put it is that its just different. Old GG designs are pretty straightforward for sure. I'd actually say the closest GG got to Blazblue with during Xrd. Strive is almost going for its own thing. Personally I've always seen it as almost like a hybrid between GG and SNK design. Guilty Gear characters but in fashionable streetwear, if that makes sense.
>but I think there’s nobody in guilty gear you could do that with for Hakumen or Hazama
Hakumen I agree with because he's actually the coolest character ever, but while I love Hazama I think you're overrating the design a tad. Its excellent but I don't think its mindblowing. Azrael I totally disagree with I find him pretty bland overall. I also think that even if you put the top end of BB males against GG males and see BB as winning I think the average skews to GG. Jin is not cooler than Ky, Bang is not cooler than Chipp. Iron Tager is not cooler than Potemkin, and Carl is DEFINITELY not cooler than Zato 1.
Ragna and Sol...I'd have them dead even actually. Ragna's "I'm so done with this shit" face does it for me.
>Just I think Blazblue’s girls appeal to the same audience Baiken and Dizzy (and other gg girls) do, and Blazblue also has lolis which Guilty Gear mostly lacks (May is a weird case with her current design)
You could make an argument for Bedman? but you're right. I just don't know if lolis are a major draw in the west.

>>714567469
Carl is a disaster but I think Relius is cooler than Zato. I agree about Chipp and Pot (though I like him without the helmet more). Azrael’s personality really carries him from a decent design to an insanely cool character. I like Jin more than Ky but agree on Ragna and Sol being about equal. Kagura is cooler than I guess Leo? It’s back and forth but I would argue BB wins in both male and female designs, but that might be influenced by my own tastes. Lolis are also popular in the west, lots of type moon fans including melty blood players like them, and Rachel is cool even if you aren’t a lolicon. I dunno for sure about all this, just felt like talking about my opinion on how current fighting games could’ve been a bit different.

>>714567926
>I would argue BB wins in both male and female designs
I'd say they win female if only out of sheer variety.
>Lolis are also popular in the west
I'm willing to entertain this argument but...
>lots of type moon fans including melty blood players like them
...saying its because of Melty fans who can't get out of the hotel bathroom is not the argument for it. Yes I know Fate in general is popular in the west this just made me laugh.
>I dunno for sure about all this, just felt like talking about my opinion on how current fighting games could’ve been a bit different.
No I think this has been a very rewarding discussion. Like I said we agree on more than we disagree on and this is really a "Is Blazblue's aesthetic appealing to the west" discussion more than anything else. While I'm not over the moon with modern fighters either I think that its not AS bad as some like to pretend. Anyone who thinks SF6 and Strive are the worst fighting games ever made (unironic opinions I have heard) need to play more games and we did eventually find the bottom of how far simplification can go before massive backlash with Tekken 8.
And besides, old games are still there. I REALLY don't think Arcsys gets enough credit for going back and implementing rollback in their old games. Anyone can play whatever they want now.

Blazblue sold blazbillion copies and is bestestest and most famous anime game ever ok

>>714522120 (OP)
Almost all of them have either shitty graphics or framedata.
Fighting games are getting worse.

>>714565085
>these results make me think CF would be comparably successful if it had released at the time that Strive did.
bbcf players are so fucking deluded, anime fighters are not popular, nobody's playing uni either despite releasing more recently

Somehow I managed to miss he was in SC6. Is he good?

>>714571381
Type lumina is easy like strive but not as popular either it or bb. Bad comparison.

>>714572006
from what I heard, TL was a shitshow because of shield

>>714571467
Most people agree that he's not very good, but that doesn't stop my Steam friend who mains him from winning handily against me. Some people also compete with him and do an alright job. In general, tiers don't matter that much in this game. Haohmaru has some very unique stuff, he has an attack during Soul Charge that hits from anywhere across the screen and deals damage proportional to how much SC gauge he has left. It's easy to get KOd by that. He can heal with one of his unblockables and has a projectile, which are more common in 6 compared to earlier games but still not that common. His "blade catch" move is a meterless RI, but the active window is like a regular GI and it only works on non-kick mids and highs. I think he's also the only character in the game with Z-motion inputs, which SoulCalibur characters just don't have.

>>714573070
Not enough Rocks to be believable

>>714531537
Who cares who made the background assets(tables and chairs) in the single player mode?

>>714573070
kek

>>714573070
Evo Top 8 might genuinely kill SNK lmao

>>714573470
>I just killed a game... with my freakin' music!

>>714573587
Hey man at least he ended up being kinda cool about it.

>>714573070
>>714573470

>>714572257
It was for a while, and I like uni but it's a bad comparison to use to argue against Blazblue's popularity when Blazblue has more players than both french bread games combined.

>>714573623
>penaldo=snk
>ball=cotw
>goalpost=9k sales

>>714573070
i know its a meme but did speed even streamed himself playing cotw? hes huge ronaldo fan and he got paid to do some ads for fatal fury

>>714522120 (OP)
>vs
>vs
>vs
>vs
Jesus fucking christ can these nigger devs just stop? I can't handle this anymore.

>>714522120 (OP)
That Jinx looks fucking terrible, and that's an accomplishment because Jinx is hot

>>714554250
I believe any.

>>714522120 (OP)
STILL TWO WEEKS AWAY

This genre is dead. Only games that succeed are popular licensed franchises like the marvel game. That's it.

>>714574461
in all fighting games you fight vs somebody dummy

>>714522120 (OP)
no because they're all tag fighters (except VF but VF has other issues)

>>714522854
What's wrong with that haircut? I think it looks cool

>>714522120 (OP)
>DOA
>DOA
>DOA
>DOA
>DOA
wow

>>714522120 (OP)
Only Tokon matters. I am waiting for Thor reveal.

>>714522120 (OP)
>HxH
It's fun. Very fun, actually. Wish the game had a better presentation for a chance of a larger audience. Eighting still got it. Day 1 buy.
>Twoco
Played the first closed beta like a mad man. It was mad fun. For some reason, played the second closed beta for maybe two hours.
Didn't like Jinx. I'm gonna call this game dead.
>Marcvel
Hype but it is diminishing after analyzing the gameplay footage and remembering the disaster that was Strive. ArcSys burned me more than I thought possible with Venom and the wall break/stick from the trailer was NOT a good sign.
>InvincibleVS
Bad name but seems like the most Marvel of the bunch. Love Invincible but not a fan of the animations and art style. I know they are following the comics to a T but the characters don't look powerful at all and their animations have no weight. Mark should be wider/thicker and Eve should get something like the Chun-Li treatment.
>Virtua Fighter
lol

TokonGODS.......will your main appear in the game?

>>714575067
they haven't announced a new DoA yet, you might need to get your eyes checked

>>714573587
Is he crying?

>>714522120 (OP)
Only for Tokon, and I wouldn't say I'm "hyped" either.

>>714574840
It hasn't been popular for decades now. Difference from before is that you have Steamcharts to see how niche games outside of the SF/Tekken bubble truly are.

any aacc chads present?

>>714575712
Play me in lumina

>>714575821
no

>>714573848
Why, they're all fundamentally anime games?
BB is "popular" is because it's at this point a legacy franchise, from a known dev, and it's also an incredibly solid game.

All three are anime fighters, you get hit once, you're put in a long ass combo and you're gonna hold a wack ass mixup on wakeup.
You can make this shit easier, it's still not going to appeal to a broad audience.

SF6 has soured me so much as far as modern fighting games go that I find it difficult to be excited for a new one, whatever the IP may be.

>>714526494
this is me, i love my Capcom characters

>>714555947
BBTAG has literally everything i dont want in fighting games, as well as having cringe RWBY characters

>>714575672
SoulCalibur II and IV both sold more than SoulCalibur VI and Tekken 8 is gonna sell less during its lifespan than Tekken 5.

>>714575672
Aren't black dudes and Japs on consoles still the majority of fighting game people or is that not the case anymore?

>>714522120 (OP)
Tokon only if Gambit is in the roster

>>714522120 (OP)
vf6 is not releasing next year

>>714576024
this
SF6 really did a number on me and made me hate fighting games, the amount of pure hate I have for slime rush and the other drive shit continues to anger me.. it's such fucking slop and makes nearly all the characters feel the same

>>714575954
French bread games are more niche and they play differently from arcsys games, arguing Blazblue wouldn't be as popular as Strive in the same circumstances by using uni as a comparison point doesn't make sense. Blazblue combos are usually shorter than uni. Strive's combos are shorter but usually do even more damage than a long uni combo and give knockdowns with positive bonus on wallbreak super enders. Do you not consider Strive an anime game at all? I wasn't saying Blazblue should be made easier or would become mainstream, but I believe it could do as well or better than Strive if it released in the same timeframe, with the same game as it is in bbcf.

>>714575821
kw: vee

>>714576520
Erm, how is "Slime rush" worse than IAD's in Animerino games..?

>>714576543
Sike
I don't even have lumina

>>714575954
>You can make this shit easier, it's still not going to appeal to a broad audience.
They did though it’s called Guilty Gear Strive and it did appeal to a much broader audience

>>714572006
ironically it wasn't really that easy to pick up cuz it was increadibly OS heavy and the mash autocombo made shitters seethe. the top tier having been a zoner didn't help either.
also from what I read, shield rps or at least B counter has some weird shit.

>>714576554
NTA but IADs do not pave over character identity the way slime does. Nothing paves over character identity like slime does except for whatever the fuck Bamco did with season 2 of T8.

>>714575712
Eurofag here, drop the code/link if you wanna play me.

>>714576554
I don’t play sf6 so I don’t know how the counter play to drive rush is but doing raw iad will get you murdered if you’re not careful with it.

>>714575712
Host nigga

>>714576809
>>714576958
https://invite.meltyblood.club/7261

>>714576660
Which zoner? Vlov? He still good?

>>714577017
Hold on, controller woes.

>>714576534
>Do you not consider Strive an anime game at all?
IADs are far weaker, less air mobility, gameplay is far more grounded
Short combos
Jump cancels aren't as present and don't matter that much
Fewer overheads, no instant overheads (except metered)

Strive's success is not only related to the timeframe it was released in, it wouldn't be still retaining players if that was the case

>>714576649
Strive didn't only make the anime bullshit more accessible while retaining the usual anime shit
Its structure is not one of a traditional anime game

>>714522120 (OP)
VIRTUA FIGHTER YEAAAAAAH BABYYYYY

>>714577301
ye, idk how the tier lists are nowadays tho. pretty sure he fell in the ranks cuz of the addition of dashblocking.
still it's fucking retarded that a zoner would be top tier in a melty game

>>714522452
This image is kinda funny when you don't know anything about this game. You open up that image, you see the title, you scroll down slowly. OK, a bunch of furfag characters, whatever, doesn't seem too interesting, but could be something fun. And then there's that thing at the bottom. kek.

>>714576554
SF players generally don't touch anime games.
Even if he does, his hatred for SF6's system mechanics is down to how most characters are functionally the same. The more well known games are defined by gimmicky bullshit that turns characters into radically different experiences to both play as and fight against.

>>714576447
I honestly think they're going to cancel it. The fact that they've hardly shown anything leaves me with very little confidence.

>>714577816
look at how they're handling revo or vf5us before it. this is how sega is

>>714522120 (OP)
>kusoge
>shit
>could be fun, most likely kusoge going by arcsys track record
>dunno
>will be fun, but nobody will play it
Ayyy lmao.

>>714577376
I still have to disagree. I already said most of what I had to say, but strive still has a lot of things that can annoy or filter newcomers. I feel the lack of air mobility hurt it more than it helped. The damage is really inexcusable and at its worst in the current patch with overtuned big bodies, which has caused it to lose players. My argument was that bbcf was already at the best midpoint between accessibility and depth, which is why I think it would theoretically do even better than Strive did. BBCF has retained players better than anything except third strike, and the other guilty gear games have solid playerbases, so I wouldn't call anime games inherently unpopular.

>>714577492
Pciel rapes the competition now

All of them will play the same

>Huge damage off any faint touch without resources
>Combos are at least 8 seconds long
>Characters are mostly the same just with different frame data
>Everything is slanted towards heavy offence
>pixel health comebacks are likely

This genre is a tired horse rotting from within that cares more about chasing clout than making a fun game

I can't figure out how to combo in kof '02

>>714578318
>BBCF has retained players better than anything except third strike
Huh?
For fighting games no longer getting updates, BBCF is below
>MK11
>Tekken 7
>MKX
>DBFZ
>Injustice 2
>KoF ‘98
>Third Strike
>KoF 2002

>>714578947
MK is a weird situation. I wasn't considering games that stopped getting updates years after bbcf, but I did miss KoF there. Should note it's still similar to those and third strike.

>>714578318
>The damage is really inexcusable and at its worst in the current patch with overtuned big bodies
The last patch buffed everybody's health, there was just ~1mo where they fucked up and also had overbuffed damage, which they rolled back for a lot of characters in an emergency patch
>which has caused it to lose players.
It's losing a bit of players because it's been 6 months since the last patch, it's still getting peaks at character releases
>bbcf was already at the best midpoint between accessibility and depth
you're absolutely out of your mind on this one

lol ur getting clapped

>>714559568
TBQH you could probably convince me to sign against EZyoi out of sheer spite.

>>714579262
>The last patch buffed everybody's health
I haven't played for a while so the damage might be more tolerable then. I kinda doubt it considering it's been a problem longer than the patch that made it even worse.
>it's been 6 months since the last patch, it's still getting peaks at character releases
A good example of why I'm confused when people try to compare strive playercounts to older games.
>you're absolutely out of your mind on this one
Am I? Someone who seriously can't learn the basics in bbcf probably won't have much more luck in strive aside from mashing in low floors. BBCF is a bit harder but nothing impossibly so.

what are your thoughts on this game

>>714578645
Time to play old games instead of focusing on what's popular.

>>714580430
definitively one of the games of all time

>>714580430
I think that's a fighting game?

>>714580430
Joe Biden is in the roster

>>714579617
Umm she is hard to use because she has stance change and resources ok?

>>714581532
...Oswald?

>>714577017
GG man, gotta scram. Can you tell me how I avoid the F. Roa corner tech trap?

>>714582608
erm, DSP is diamond despite being "shit", this gives no excuse to not play fightans..

>>714584682
No

>>714584682
ggs. the optimal setup is a airtech really close to the ground which can even net you a punish. if you don't wanna lab it you can just notech in which case 214C only deals like ~400 iirc.
also don't groundtech len airthrow. she can cover every option with 5B.

>>714585178
No surprise the Chipp is normal

>>714585178
Mexico vs Trans country, who wins

>>714577017
btw room is still up

>>714585545
can we post cunny on melty discord again or are the tranny mods still mad about it?

>>714585770
idk I haven't been there for over a year

>Nen
Gay
>2XKO
Gay
>Tokon
Gay
>InvincibleVS
Gay
>VF6
Cool.

Why play the others when you can play Tokon?

The ones with Ghost Rider and hobo Akira.

>People who don't play this genre are talking about it

>>714585178

>try BBCF
>don't really find anyone who clicks me with off the bat

>>714587269
play whoever has the coolest combos

>>714587269
Noellers

can you block the mixup /v/?
https://archive.org/details/millia-blocker-v-0.3

>>714522120 (OP)
>HxH
Very hyped, looks great. Doomed to be a discord fighter but I'll play that shit.

>2XKO
Looks okay. Will play if popular and better than it was during alpha.

>Tokon
I have high hopes for this game and plan to buy a new PC when it comes out. Should be my main game until 2030 at least as long as Arcsys tries to retain some of the movement from classic Marvel fighting games.

>Invincible VS
Looks like shit

>VF
Never cared about this franchise.

>>714522120 (OP)
Next Samurai Shodown when ?

Can't wait for all these to come out, be told how it's the current best fighting game, and then it's dead in a month.

>>714587269
I never found someone in CF that really clicked with me either. I have around 100 hours in it but I can imagine myself having put in more if there was a character I was more attached to.

>>714587269
I went with Es but I’m interested in Izanami

>>714588064
Stop fucking lolis

>>714588305
Impossible

>>714588305
why?

>>714587269
>chad twink
>cool chip kill gameplan
>long buttons
>buttons have gigantic deadzones and conversions are hard
he's so cool but I can't play him...

>>714587871
Ok see you there.

>>714587269
I feel you, many fighters in BB have either weird playstyles and/or combos you have to go through before getting comfortable with a main

>>714585178
flags should not be allowed

>>714564557
It has a couple of good stages other than that too but I agree, Rachel's stage is cool

>>714564383
>The anime people like, at least in the west, looks closer to Strive than it does to Blazblue imo
Because Blazblue looks like early 2000's moeblob garbage they would spew out on a daily basis
>BB designs are not bad!
>Look at Es, isn't she just Baiken!
You guys are extremely tone deaf to the point I'm considering fi you even have any eyes at all

I feel like I better understand why training rooms are called padded cells. It sucks playing alone or without feedback and online against literal whos doesn't really remedy that. I feel weak of spirit.

>>714576554
if you've played any anime fighter for half a second you would realize that iading 24/7 is something that will get you blown while drive rush is basically the centralizing force of the game. a more apt comparison would be xrd yrc

>>714576554
I can consistently kill niggas for attempting a single IAD against me in most anime games while I have a 50/50 chance of winning against a drive rush I straight up read at mid range

>>714589983
and you know what even yrc over and over again will demolish your meter gain which actually does matter in a game where a 25 meter option as strong as yrc exists.

>>714590236
and drive rush will put you in burnout which can guarentee checkmate states where you'll lose despite having over 50% health
still a shitty mechanic

>>714576554
idk how about we take a look at the plethora of dedicated and non dedicated anti air buttons that anime fighters give you to deal with anime fighter movement

>>714555906
how about now

I hate combos that require super jumps

>>714590797
But anon, you can air block which means that anti airs are useless!

>>714592808
well you blocked it and now it's my turn

>>714577017
Is it dead now?

>>714558447
>>714558814
>>714559686
>>714560094
>>714560097
>auto throw
>Isn’t that every game
No. HxH Auto throws are in no other game. It has PROXIMITY AUTO THROWS where you DONT even press a button to throw. i.e dashing into a enemy via 66 (forward, forward) input will THROW YOUR OPPONENT. So even on like a wake up pressure situation where you whole plan was the dash in and apply wakeup pressure if you are off by just a frame you will auto throw them because throws in the game are 1frame. So there will be many situations where you just throw your opponent by mistake and vise versa

it's complete and utter garbage. there is so much bad about the game that I doubt it'll even see 1k players on steam

I want to play blazblue but feel like I'm not gay enough to get into it :/

>>714593589
new lobby
https://invite.meltyblood.club/7408

>>714593791
gays play Strive, not blazblue. the hell you talking about. I don't even remember the last time I saw a tranny play blazblue

>>714593904
I can't join

>>714594085
aight let's try ip 84.168.96.227:10800

>>714593636
prime kusokamige

anyone else feel like 1f throws were actually genius design and the only people that complained about it were people that just wanted to autopilot their offense

>>714593791
few Hazama x ragna doujins should do the trick

>>714594321
what game doesn't have 1f throws or at least throws that are faster than every normal in the game? no one has ever hated this or thought it was genius as you imply its just the normal shit bro stop hyping up normal shit

>>714594717
SF throws are 5f, BB throws are 7f, Uni2 are 4f

>>714594717
??? nigga what the actual fuck are you talking about, most games from 2010 and beyond have throws with more startup frames, sf6 throws have 5 frames of startup, blazblue is 3 frames, skullgirls is 8 i believe. do you even play fighting games or are you just pretending.

>>714595128
>>714595132
thanks for taking the bait :)

>>714595132
>3
thats the startup blazblue throws are 7

>>714593951
CT was literally the gateway game for trannies to get into the genre and it only kept getting worse, what are you on about? Hell, all the participating faggots in Strive are either CF or BBTAG graduates

>>714575205
I refuse to play any new Marvel game that doesn't have Daredevil. So unless Tokon reveals my nigga Matt Murdock is in and his moveset doesn't look like hot garbage, I will refrain from playing.

>>714595254
Blazblue has so many colors who gives a fuck about that color? And then you say "CT" nigga was 2009 there were no tranny flags at FGC events, the fuck you smoking?

BBCF has 3 trannies in the main cast btw

What fighting game doesn't have tranny. I wouldn't mind playing that one

t.heterochad

>>714595438
>No flags
You know that you can be gay without putting its flag up, right?

>>714595254
I hate that trannies ruined this color combination, I always liked it since it fits well together.

>Tekken has Kazuya acknowledging he has a woman inside him
Even Tekken isn't safe...

>>714595796
>BBTAG
Nigga can you read, he said CT as in Blazblue Clamity Trigger aka BBCT

>>714595626
Mai got genderbent, Amane's just a CD, who's the third one?
Is Hazama FTM?

>>714522120 (OP)
>Nen Impact
Dont care. No hype

>2XKO
- 8 years development
- 2v2
- 10 characters on release, despite it being a well established IP, and having Riot money
That's a scam. PASS

>Tokon
- 4v4
- arcsys
- Tag games inherently need a big roster unless they have a team ratio system like Skullgirls.
- If they had a giant roster there would be some preview on the Arcsys 'Direct'
- Company will most likely will use, shills (paid and unpaid) to sell the small roster.
Fuck you faggots for doing this, PASS. Have fun, though.

>Invincible
- There are scant amount characters that are worth a shit in that franchise.
Pass.

>VF
- Its not for everyone. It needs to be 'dry' to be good. The straightforward 'dryness' of the gameplay is the appeal.
Prediction: its stays niche, or the devs try to modernize it, fucking the appeal of the game during the process.
Hype level: mid

>>714596017
>Crossdressing doesn't count unless it happens after 2024
???
Platinum is a man and a girl stuck together in a single body and the two spirit thing is explicitly tr*nny stuff

Lol

>>714596017
>I-I just dress like a girl I'm not a fag!
Is this how you guys cope?

>>714596108
They already said VF is just going to be VF and not some Tekken 8 type shit with background explosions and Rage Arts. So it's going to be niche

>>714596321
They straight up said it won't play like a fighting game by any definition we know because they wanted to try new things, it's not fucking going to play like VF
They just said no meter crap and comeback mechanics

>>714596108
tokons roster will be drip fed to us over something like weekly reveals once it suits their release schedule, they will keep hype up that way.

>>714596118
>>714596205
RuPaul is for manly men who are interested in manly man things.

>>714596478

>>714596478
>They just said no meter crap and comeback mechanics
Then why are you upset? They literally answered the question direct. And they even showed you a concept of the gameplay (nto the NVidia one, the one from the reveal). And it's fucking VF nigga you literally are not some big fan because no big VF fans exist and I will only kneel down and suck your dick if you post Xbox360 and/or PS3 hours which you can do without owning a console now thanks to SONY.

>>714596751
I'm not that guy you retard I'm just correcting the shit you said

I really hope VF6 is good. I will also inevitably get Tokon even though I never really got into tag fighters. What I really wish for is a new Soul Calibur game.

>>714596870
You didn't correct anything, you just confirmed what I said - the game not being a modern casualization of VF to appeal to the modern audience. I even used Tekken 8 as an example. They literally said it wont be THAT and THAT is what I said dumbass

>>714597056
>the game not being a modern casualization of VF to appeal to the modern audience
We literally don't know how it'll play and the devs went out of their way to say that, you, in fact, don't know how it plays

>>714596108
>Tag games inherently need a big roster unless they have a team ratio system like Skullgirls.
eh i dont necessarily agree with this, i just think characters need to be varied enough from one another. skullgirls would still be fine even without the solo and duos because of how different each character is, and that game is mostly played 3v3 anyways with a roster of 18 while still having some of the most varied matches in any fighting game.

>>714597162
Nigga you're fucking retarded LMAO

does anyone want to beat my ass

I wish the SF devs were willing to adjust the horrible faces and proportions

>>714597162
>the devs says it wont be like a modern game but lets continue doomposting anyway

>>714597648
>like a modern game
No, they said it won't be like any fighting game you know
Do you niggers really think Tekken 8 and SF6 invented meter or comeback mechanics or the devs said that as if older VF games had meter?
Are you guys fucking pajeets who can't even type without chatGPT assistance

>>714527235
because nothing but marvelsoy characters is lame. needs some capcom flavor or some other IP to balance it out.

>>714597815
You good bro? You seem kinda mad D:

>>714597970
They'll put Ragna and Sol like Eltnum in UNI, trust the plan
We will dustloop the spider menace for his full health bar and we will be happy

I'm going to be honest, I think Ragna is a really boring character and has no main character energy.

>>714586794
i don't like capeshit

>>714522120 (OP)
All will flop besides Marvel Tokon and VF6

i'd rather play stive for 5 more years, unironically. Fuck marvel and riot

>>714526494
I feel you.
TRUST THE PLAN MvCBROS

ArcSys vs Capcom

Why does everyone have an issue with Capcom's RE Engine? The RE Engine is the only modern game engine that can create good looking female characters in photo realistic graphics. RE3 Jill is Sex and with mods she becomes SEXO. Mai in SF6 is SEXOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

>>714598958
Why the FUCK would Capcom release MvC5 THE SAME YEAR as Tokon?

>>714522120 (OP)
do any new fighting games have a chance? it really feels like we're entering a point at which only the most established IPs will have any decent amount of players.

>>714538007

>>714599485
Nen Impact will have some otakus playing it for years. Invincible may last in the same way. Not so sure 2XKO.
Tokon will have all the Arcsys bull but sell a lot.
Virtua Figher will most probably stay Virtua Fighter.

>>714599485
>do any new fighting games have a chance?
Unless SF7 is a blunderfest as bad as SF5 launch, most people will just gravitate towards SF like flies anyway

>>714599485
Mortal Combat shat the bed as an established franchise and GG Strive was the first GG game to sell over a million copies and is now over 3m.
Granblue is also doing well for itself despite being what's in the west a completely no-name gacha.

The floor for a game is going up, though. You must have workable networking and cross-platform MP (assuming you port the game over).

>>714599485
No, because SF is back. Now you have to provide a product that is as feature complete and bug free as SF6, as visually impressive as Strive, and not overlap with SF6 to the point people will save their money by playing those instead.
Tokon and VF6 are the only upcoming games remotely capable of fulfilling all of this, but fighting game devs are incompetent and will waste any opportunity you hand them.

>>714599348
the dates are wrong but the things in question have so far been proven real

>>714599485
Nen Impact will sell a nenillion copies, trust me

>>714576554
It's in a fucking Street Fighter game.
If I want anime mechanics I play an anime fighter.

We need MORE LOBBIES

>>714536037
>I think they also confirmed no Yordles
I will now no longer buy your game

>Fighting Games
Fighting games, huh? That genre that used to be all about the skill of the player. A genre that was about climbing the tallest mountain starting from the bottom of the mountain. Now it's a genre that is all about riding a Ski Lift to the top of the mountain, pointing and laughing at the idiot who choose to climb by foot.

I truly miss not just the genre but when all genres in gaming where all about skill and player expression. I would love to go back to 2000 - 2015 fighting games. Post 2016 everything changed for the worse.

I mean just think about it, Street Fighter 5 was a shit game, it manage to survive and thrive all while being a shit game. So then Capcom tried it a second time - MvCi but it failed. And in all honestly if that Dragonball game didn't exist, giving everyone a secondary option I believe MvCi would have manage to thrive as a shit game too. Like if DragonBall FighterZ came maybe two years after MvCi's release I am 100% confident MvCi would thrive as a shit game just like SF5.

make more sprite fighting games using AI, unironically

>>714601546
fuck off cris

>>714601061
Like I'm sure MvC5 will happen eventually, but I feel like Capcom should focus on CvS3 first, just so there's no overlap with Marvel Tokon. Also, what are the chances of them adding a Windjammers fighter to CvS3?

>There's a major going on
>It's split into two streams because retarded frogs think we need a main stream in their gay language nobody speaks
I fucking hate frogs so much

>>714599247
Photo realistic graphics are bland, uninspired shit and they are an awful fit for Street Fighter in particular.
Mai looking good is a fluke considering that literally every other character looks like SHIT

>>714601674
>Mai looking good is a fluke
The Resident males and females all look great bro

Granblue NEEDS playable Golshi.

>>714601945
Yeah...
No

>>714602268
Your eyes must have issues or maybe you're gay if you think the RE girls are ugly.

>>714602512
Nu-Jill is shit compared to her previous versions, that hairstyle is fucking atrocious and her outfit is a gigantic downgrade.
Ada has always been shit so her new version looking bad is nothing new I guess.
Ella Freya is cute but nu-Ashley looks like SHIT too; she looks 10 years older than she's supposed to be.
Claire is the only cute one so once again, the track record implies it was a fluke.

>>714599131
it will never happen, capcom thinks they are above arcsys to ever collaborate

>>714603316
You're gay.

>>714522120 (OP)
>tagslop
no thanks

>>714587269
Every Blazblue character is fun in Entropy Effect

>>714522120 (OP)
Nen Impact is kusoge, but the entertaining kind that'll be fun as a spectator sport.
Don't care about 2XKO unless they add my husbando Tahm Kench.
Don't care about Tokon unless it has Rocket and Jeff.
Don't care about Invincible VS because it's going to be the bad kind of Kusoge.
Don't care about VF but I'm glad those guys are getting thrown a bone for once.

>>714522120 (OP)
fighter fatigue

>>714604672
that game is fun, too bad you cant edit your evotypes. I don't want to play 50times to do a setup I wanna play, I also prefer if potentials were just all unlocked. More fun that way.

>>714596108
>If they had a giant roster there would be some preview on the Arcsys 'Direct'
No they wouldn’t lol. The game is published by Sony and will only be talked about at Sony events.

>>714543818
No one joined my lobby that I posted earlier in the thread so...

based cannon bros, scamming riot out of money for 10 years and going

People keep saying strive is fag central and I've just tuned into the major and everyone looks normal
Did you guys bait me

>>714606259
there's only like three trannies that make it to majors and one got banned

>>714605630
What were you playing? I'll join if I also play that

>>714606502
SoulCalibur VI

>>714606587
I lost many loads to amy in all the outfits.

>>714595852
every single color combination now belongs to some sexual orientation

>>714606939
doc....

>>714606259
Some top players are troons and there are a ton of troon secondaries who love the game because of Bridget’s retcon.

>>714596118
platinum is 3 midgets in a trench coat

>>714607090
One of the midgets is an oji-san tho

>>714595852
They only ruined it if you are a little bitch.
I sure as fuck won't stop using it just because current boogeyman uses it as a flag.

>>714602085
thats a rat

>>714598229
ragna is funny because he is straight man of the cast while everyone else is unhinged

When is the next Entropy Effect update and who's in it

>>714607390
the Tsukkomi to everyone's Boke

>>714607136
No he isn’t? He’s a shota.

>>714593904
ggs

>>714607670
What the fuck, I swear one of the characters was old and it was the male

>>714607487
Like a week ago and it was Bullet

>>714607786
Yeah I'm asking for the next one though, my main is still not in :(

>>714607778
are you confusing Cagliostro with Platinum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNNGqcpL_AQ

Friendly reminder about Ragna's true nature.

>>714608042
Ragna deserved to be in a better universe than Bl*zblue where every other person is a batshit crazy retard, poor guy

>>714608204
blame his brocon sister

>>714607728
ggs. vary up your pressure, cuz 90% of the time you do 5AAA>throw or 5AAA>6[B], both of which I can beat by holding upback.
also don't overrely on DP antiair cuz melty DPs suck at anti airing (unless ur Hime). instead go for rising jA

>ragna the GAYedge

>>714608356
You can blame like half the cast for Ragna's suffering, including the well meaning ones
I really don't give a shit about the overall story of BB but it's still funny how the main character just gets deleted and a war criminal like Relius just gets off scot free

>>714522120 (OP)
VF6
The rest is nothing but arc system wannabe slop and one is actually arc system but it's just marvel, boring cape shit.
The least they could have done was make it a arc system x marvel crossover.
VF6 is the only legit fighting game with potential to be unique.

>>714522452
its like they're asking for it to flop

>>714608363
>ggs [unsolicited advice]

>>714607778
Nah it’s an adult woman and two kids, one girl and one boy. Eventually it’s just the two kids

>>714608363
Thanks, but I dunno, it doesnt feel like Shiki has much pressure tools in the first place to use
I see with j.a, I'll try that but j.a always felt like it got beat out compared to using 236 (when I wasnt retarded with spamming it), at least with him.

>>714608363
You are such a fucking faggot lmao

>>714606627
steam://joinlobby/544750/109775241166474101/76561199021052341
sorry for responding so late, I was playing with others in the meantime and didn't see your post

>>714609125
refute that man's points if you're so smart

>>714608745
nta but whats wrong with that..?

>>714522120 (OP)
Nen impact will be a fun Kusoge
2XKO is gonna be a piece of shit but if its free it will see some play.
Marvel will probably be boring slop since arcsys went full retard see strive.
Invincible the what now?

Tekken shitters will come into it realize they suck and go right back to the baby game and complain bout how tekken 8 isnt deep enough for them.

>>714608745
Are you actually the person who was playing with him or are you just a little bitch who gets upset when people point out things you could improve?

>>714522120 (OP)
Only interested in VF rest will die fast

>>714589813
Es is the best girl in a fighting game

>>714609201
Refute my nuts nerd

>>714609664
...are you implying that VF will -not- die fast?

>>714578947
don't bother man, these """""""FGC"""""" redditors pop up on your face and scream at the top of the lungs how bbcf is god's gift on earth and how you have to accept this or else they will revoke your """""fgc""""" gamercard
delusion is their entire reality

>>714609725
This is why no one takes BBtards seriously

>>714609725
Even her gameplay is extremely basic and generic man

>>714609728
FUCK

>>714609784
>m-muh reddit
You will never fit in.

I have tranime fighter fatigue

>>714609952
thankfuly no new anime IADsloppa fighters are being made

>>714609941
fuck off dude, go play your gooky asiatic game that you like so much. muhhh gofd's gift on earth, yeah yeah, how's the dilation going

I hope Tokon won't have the gay ass marvel wavedash, I always hated that movement system

Just tried to get into GBVSR for the third time, but the game just fucking sucks. Annoying as shit, but also manages to be boring as hell. I really like the way the game looks and sounds, but it is just not fun.
COTW got old in a month, and no one gives a shit about it.
I suspect Nen Impact will disappoint me, too. Crazy to think the best period of this genre for me was back before rollback was standard. Now we have good online, but the games are ass.

>>714610117
we just need more brave souls to implement rollback into all the old games

I don't get hyped. I'm interested in VF6 though. I think it will be great.

>>714609108
idk if he has sauce but he's got enough to at least force respect.
for upbacking you've got 2B (gotta press it very early or else you'll whiff) and 2C, maybe 214A but idk if you get any reward off that.
otherwise you just run regular melty pressure, stagger buttons and do some rebeats.
best pressure ender I think is donkey kick (can prob threaten with 2C after still) which you can then mix with his other stance specials, tho you need a lot of respect for that cuz the risk reward is not in your favor.

>>714610117
You can play most old games that were popular though, what do you want?

>>714610260
There are some that need it, but most well known and good games have it already.

>>714522120 (OP)
>HXH
A bit interested but I have no real investment in it. Price is too high for a clearly fucked game and unless the tourney scene is strong right away, this game will die in a week, let alone a month. Which would be a shame, because I think if it's somehow successful, this game in particular would probably be the real catalyst for companies to make more actual shonen fighters.
>2XKO
Lol no. I don't give a shit about league.
>Tokon
Very, VERY hesitant. Like with everyone else, we all know the next trailer will make or break it, be it character reveals or gameplay.
>Invincible
Seems like they're trying to replace MK without being MK but it looks kinda... generic. Like it's trying to be what the idea of a hyper fighter is, but of course, since it's westerners, they have to put some retarded spin on it. I don't think it'll sell well, Invincible is not THAT popular.
>VF
I have nothing to say because there's literally nothing to comment on. I like VF5, so I'm interested, but we're all waiting here. The character designs show promise though.
>>714575014
It's the defacto modern black guy hair cut like how the shaven cut white guy was the standard people bitched about. But this one just looks kinda ugly.

>>714610479
Mbaacc needs a steam rollback update. I refuse to join a discord for it.

>>714610672
That shit is NEVER happening LOL

>>714610672
just ask for games here

>>714609952
There's hardly any anime fighters anymore compared to 10 years ago.

>>714610419
Like yeah his 2c is his best button but I dont really know much to get off from those hits I get, or at least to do it successfully into standard AT air combo with some of his other pressure moves. Like you open someone up but you cant get more and you're back to square 1

>>714610810
I might pick it up and do that but I’d like if I could grind matches whenever

>>714610438
Yeah you can, and I sometimes do, but you and I both know it’s not the same. Playing a game (you like) while it’s current and popular, the most amount of people are playing and discussing it, it’s getting updates, learning and discovering shit while it’s new and fresh.. The hype, the excitement.. You can’t get that from playing old shit.

>>714611012
I get what you mean but I enjoy them enough to be happy about the state of the genre

>>714610046
I have ZERO interest in defending BlazBlue here
I'm just calling you a faggot for doing the "muh reddit" thing in fucking 2025
You will never fit in.

>>714609108
236A does indeed have a good hitbox for AA but it's a really risky read cuz 14f startup and 3f active frames is really dangerous in a game where the opponent has 3+ methods to air stall

>>714610959
>I dont really know much to get off from those hits I get
2C>5C>jBC>BC>AT
works from a decent enough range. the jB pickup seems to whiff at far range
2C>214C, 2C>5C>jBC>jBC>AT
the damage is considering it costs a bar (3.6k) but it works from any range.
The wiki also has some more optimal (and better oki) combos.

>>714611007
i could pleasure you any time you want sweetie uwu

>>714590868
i will now boughted your game