What went wrong?

>>714524490 (OP)
someone post the webm, you know the one

>>714524490 (OP)
Sweatlords and the devs that pander to them

>>714524490 (OP)
i honestly think it boiled down to a lack of content, the accels/drags/animation fuckery wasn't too bad to deal with in the casual modes, since you could gang up on the small amount of tryhards in each lobby
but once you unlocked enough gear and got bored of the maps, what else was there to do?
i got ~300 hours out of mordhau and was satisfied with my experience

>>714524490 (OP)
None of them are as good as Mountain Blade.

>>714524490 (OP)
There's only so much you can do with medieval battles before it loses mainstream appeal and turns into straight up fantasy or an autistic simulation like KCD.

>>714524490 (OP)
no freedom of speach

>>714524490 (OP)
Unrealistic fights.

>>714524490 (OP)
>multi directional attacks
>but parry is omnidirectional
warband still reigns supreme

>>714526461
this was so retarded, you could win a 2-3v1 as long as one shitter kept feeding you parries

>>714524490 (OP)
I enjoyed Mordhau for a while, but high level combat was too focused on janky animation manipulating garbage. Eventually I decided that the game was making me angry more than happy and stopped playing.

>>714524490 (OP)
>"slasher" genre
No one called it this and if they did then thats why they died.

>>714524785
Pretty much this. Pandering to sweatlords, the game warps away from its original idea to be balanced around janky and unintended mechanics and autistic faggotry, eventually you lose the bulk of your community who just wanted to have cool knight battles, and the sweats who are left never liked the game to begin with, they just liked the dopamine rush from dunking on people not willing to engage with jank, so once those are gone and they're stuck with sweats like themselves, they'll leave as well.

Those games never needed to be more than arcadey knight battle games with juuust enough depth and tech to allow for skill expression, and they way overshot the mark.

I personally had a lot of problems with the game's depth perception, but that was probably because I played in 90 FoV. Anything less than that makes my eyes hurt.

>>714524490 (OP)
These games usually have pointlessly difficult mechanics that you need t master just to stand a chance.
Instead of just making a fun melee first person game they make a game that only truly appeals to swetlords.

>>714524490 (OP)
>Chivalry
gameplay is fundamentally fucked and once the meta was discovered it drove off anyone who actually wanted to play a medieval battlefield game
>Chivalry 2
Unironically nothing went wrong with the game itself, they just sold out and put it on Epic first for some reason which killed the marketing
>Mordhau
No new maps in FUCKING F O R E V E R in a game that generated all its hype with its massive battles.
Camp, mountain pass, grad. That's it for fucking years. Continuing to pander to 1v1 compniggers instead of working on the actual game features that hundreds of thousands of people actually bought it for.

>>714528586
>no new maps
we pve players in the horde community ate good so many great maps from movie references as lotr (moria or helms deep+ a couple more),GoT, 13th warrior and more and from other games too

>>714527819
all this. the devs listened to the wrong people. a very small, very loud, very autistic section of the playerbase with an aberrant idea of whats fun ended up telling the devs what makes the game fun instead of leveraging the setting and the chaos of large battles to create fun emergent gameplay

imagine an FPS game where instead of shooting people with guns being the focus of the gameplay it was bhopping backwards into enemies which caused them to die. thats what happened to this genre

>>714528586
>gameplay is fundamentally fucked and once the meta was discovered it drove off anyone who actually wanted to play a medieval battlefield game
Yeah I remember finding out the meta was to turn your screen to the left so you hit people before even visually swinging your sword, and that the devs weren't going to fix it because they liked it that way, and never went back. Cared too much about nebulous competitive relevance and not enough about actually making a fun, balanced medieval warfare game.

>>714524490 (OP)
It's unrealistic because you can't rape your enemy while you fight them.

>we're not going to devolve into ballerinashit like chivalry everyone hates that and we hate that
>the two builds that consistently put you at the top of the scoreboard are bloodlust+longsword for ballerina sweeping crowds or bloodlust+maul for staring at the ground to tap heads for instakills
>if you DARED to have fun throwing fire pots or placing bear traps they would get nerfed for a 5th time
Mordhau was close to being good and finally breaking the mold but the volume of wannabe esportsniggers and the lure of eceleb exposure sucked all life out of the game

>>714531147

the exact same thing happened to for honor despite only aesthetically being similar. must be something about knights and autism

Everyone who is still playing these games is an autistic tranny
I'm not even joking. I dare you to go check yourself.

>>714531382
it's either this, racist magats or clueless children that play it from gamepass

they're fun when they're new and nobody knows how to play
then people learn how to git gud and all the shitters quit because they can't git gud
then all the people who were sort of okay drop out because they're the new shitters on the totem pole
then all you have left at the good players with no new blood

>>714524490 (OP)
Real answer, Rune: HOV did it better than any other slasher all the way back in 2001

>>714524490 (OP)

>>714524490 (OP)
I've been playing Chiv 2 daily and started less than a year ago and it's really fun. There's plenty of new players and the 64 man mode is always active and full most of the time.

>>714534496
you could say any of this about any game or genre where 2 or more players compete against each other. but a lot of other games whether theyre counter strike, rocket league, street fighter, dota2 remain popular and have massive player bases with healthy numbers of noobs joining regularly.now i believe, and people in this thread seem to be in agreement that the reason that these so called "slashers" die off and havent had a breakthrough hit game or franchise yet is that the high level gameplay is nonsense, to put it into one word.

you pick up an FPS because you want a game where you have gunfights, and where skill at aiming is the factor that separates skilled players from new players at least in the mechanical sense. you can imagine by looking at utter noobs what the game must look like at the highest levels: better aim, better coordination, better tactics etc. the same is not true of slashers. its a completely different game and different set of "skills" at the highest level. it looks like a different game and mockery of the thing its supposed to simulate

i dont think condensing it to "cry baby shitters cant hang with the pros" really covers it

>>714531339
For honor is pretty different stuff, it has more common with fighting games at this point
Early fh was so retardedly broken people actually needed quite a lot of time to figure out what was broken, answer was everything obviously
Only thing that was saving it for some time is that it is the only game in it's genre, nothing plays like it
CCU update today is mostly 80/20 on positive reception, in hindsight making light parries as easy as they were is very fucking stupid, considering the punish on some characters could go over 100hp
It made berserker extremely obnoxious though
But now it's indeed the opposite extreme where every character must have bash opener, roll catcher and 50/50 mix up, or else it is total garbage
Almost all new characters have some stupid annoying move that stun you for two seconds and deal a shit ton of damage, and it must be unblockable, as if optimal ganking doesn't suck out all the fun from the game as is.
Making optimal ganking casual is so ridiculous, it's not like every player is a youtuber with 5000+ hrs and can win 1v4s consistently
It mostly feels like a dichotomy instenad of spectrum where one side of players are mouthbreathing retards who will feed revenge and other side are sweats that will 100 to 0 you without you physically being able to do anything about it, no in between

>>714534714
issue?

>>714524490 (OP)
Mordhau is really good, it just needed more competent maps. For the first year it only had like 4 non-ffa maps.
Even if the skill ceiling is insanely high, if there's gorgeous, fun maps with obstacles you can fuck around with then everyone including casuals has a good time. The devs are just shitty map makers + took way too long making the ones they made and half of them aren't good.

>>714524490 (OP)
Vermintide OWN the genre
Also we are getting a new slasher game, a sequel to EYE

>>714537394
EYE was a slasher? It was on source and melee sucked ass though
Even bomb hammer had trash hit reg
It was much more fun using hunting machine or smg or just teleporting into dudes

>>714524490 (OP)
I've been playing chiv 2 almost every night for the last 2 weeks. I get to hit dudes and watch their heads roll or explode and that's all I need.

>>714537394
>Vermintide
Darktide is better.

>>714524490 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Compfags being utterly unable to grasp the notion that the entire universe doesn't circles around them.