Name a flaw.

you can't fuck Gallica

no dating

>>714532643 (OP)
The art design feels all over the place
Stick to RPG school social sims

>>714532643 (OP)
>Name a flaw.
Okay

>>714532643 (OP)
I thought the story was top tier, but any optional dungeon crawling ranged from kind of meh to feeling like a chore.

I'd skip most of the optional ones on a replay, but several character quests and social links are directly tied to scouring through them.

>>714533067
>doesn't involve purseowner waifu hunting shittery
Dunno anon, sounds like a positive to me

>>714533231
>romance is now waifu hunting full stop
Asexual zoomer freaks pls go

>>714532643 (OP)
Looks like a PS2 game and not a high end one.
Characters and world look extremely lame and boring.
Fuckboi main character.
Seems like a step down from Persona games when it comes to variety.

>>714532812
>>714533067
I'm not opposed to romance options in games, but I always thought Persona was one of the weaker implementations of it despite the popularity of the dating sim aspects. The way that the main story was never allowed to acknowledge optional relationship arcs made it feel like it was completely disconnected from everything.

>>714533381
>Seems like
Did you even play it

>>714532643 (OP)
story falls apart after Opera house

>>714533480
dont care let me pretend to have a romantic life

>>714532643 (OP)
I think I prefer the archetype system to the Persona system. But the Royal Archetypes you unlock near the end kind of defeat the entire concept of experimenting with different party combos because there's an obvious best option for characters to take.

>>714533067
There is romance, but Eupha is the only option.

>>714532643 (OP)
Turn based.

>>714533607
I wouldn't say the ending was terrible, but having everything grind to a halt for the final month to catch up on a sudden plethora of sidequests was a weird way to kill the pacing

>>714533851
Rightful winner

>>714532643 (OP)
catherina's social link is retarded

>>714533480
The issue is that instead of spending more time tying dating options into main story relevance, or better yet focusing on fewer or even a singular dating option, they take it entirely out and focus on equally empty "friendship" mechanics just so they don't have to acknowledge it in the main story at all. It's a decision driven by laziness.

>>714532643 (OP)
I'll get back to you when I play it some day maybe.

>>714532643 (OP)
Some of the enemies at the end of optional dungeons were so over-leveled compared to the second strongest enemies in that dungeon that it's ridiculous, the fiery rock lion on the bottom level of the volcano dungeon was like 10 levels above anything else, and the egg rare spawn in the final dungeon was level 93, blowing everything else out of the water.

>>714534050
It's actually based because it shows communism is for idiots.

Games mediocre across the board. Pacing sucks, characters are bland, combat is barely a step up from the bare minimum.

>>714534054
I assume it's just a lot cheaper to tack it on rather than try to make the optional character development lead to branching scenes.

I think it's weird they can't even throw you a bone and acknowledge it during unvoiced text message conversations or something though.

>>714533851
there's lots of stuff that hints at mc x gallica like the story about the king and his fairy queen. MC is king at the end so he can just have Eupha as his queen and a concubine fairy.

>>714533550
The demo for like 5 minutes.

>>714534050
I liked her character fine but think something more interesting could have been done with all of the lower tier candidates scheming and competing for a chance at the throne.

>>714534434
>concubine
That his wife you sonuvabitch

>>714534343
>I think it's weird they can't even throw you a bone and acknowledge it during unvoiced text message conversations or something though.
This is how I know for certain it's laziness. Even in a game like P5 with a million and a half relationship options, having conditional unvoiced nods to relationship status would not be a difficult or time-consuming thing to implement whatsoever. It's just an aspect of the game they haven't improved upon since P3. It's like they're afraid to lean into the social sim aspect beyond the bare minimum needed for social link progression.

Too many dungeons where the gimmick is taking away press turns. Shits stupid and cheap; you can make things difficult without taking away the best feature of your combat system.

>>714534509
so basically you didnt play it

>>714532643 (OP)
Best character design wasn't a party member

Gallica had a little equipment screen but they wouldn't let me buy her new duds

>>714532643 (OP)
Its boring and ugly

no royal version and the potential love interests are bad

>>714532643 (OP)
The archetype system really expects you to choose the ideal combination if you want to unlock the broken royal archetypes.

>>714535812
Wait for the Nintendo Direct.

>>714535972
this is by the atlus team that hates nintendo

>>714536030
>the atlus team that hates nintendo
meds now

>>714535396

>>714533067
TPBP
Immediately stopped caring about the game when I heard about this; if you're expecting me to play a modern Atlus-length game, then you should pander for my dollar like a desperate hooker.

>>714532643 (OP)
-The music is terrible.
-The writing. 1) it assumes you're a retard and so it repeats every point about 45 times. 2) Piss poor characterization. 3) Ridiculous nonsensical plot.
-It's far too long and the pacing is awful.
-It runs like complete shit on the ps4.

>>714532643 (OP)
Resolution, textures and frame rate.

>>714532643 (OP)
No Eupha vanilla sex scene

>>714535396
I too was disappointed by this going into the game

>>714532643 (OP)
meh.... I think Persona 3,4 and 5 is better than Metaphor. This was really overrated. I did beat it.

So this on goypass and installed it. Used my demo save. Go into the city and fairy is talking about the mc being oppressed n shieet. Dropped this faggot game.

>>714532643 (OP)
Just like all Atlus games.
>Terrible level design in the later half, as usual the game invest into the first 2 dungeons, then later they are halfassed and unfinished
-Bad encounter design, as per usual the game showers you with repetitive and recycled encounters where you use the same things over and over, serves nothing except to waste the player time
-Shallow writing, as per usual from Atlus the game decides to tackle complex themes in a superficial and dumb way, Atlus writers think that in order to trick the retards (their fans) to believe your story is le deep, all you have to do is quote some philosopher multiple times.
-Ugly art direction, this one is an exception to the rule, usually Atlus games have good art style, Metaphor art is shit
-Shallow and boring gameplay, Atlus games as per usual are way too easy, are way too restrictive and are filled with text boxes, the gameplay in Atlus games is 60% clicking x to advance text. 30% doing shallow turnbased combat. 10% walking around clicking on menus
Its not interactive enough!!
-RPG elements are basic and super simple, leave a lot to be desired as per usual with Atlus games their "RPGs" are games that levelup themselves for you and leave zero room for player choice and agency in building your team composition.
-Pacing is terrible, Atlus specialty.

Want more?

Terrible game. Repulsive artstyle/character designs, boring gameplay, dungeons with ball achingly dull exploration and loading screens out the ass. Surprisingly good final hour. Galica's VA deserves more work. 1/10

>>714532643 (OP)
Soon Metaphor ReFantazio Royal Burger Edition
Only for 99.99$!!

The game will add a new DLC so be sure to purchase it again and do the whole thing again, they fixed some of their shitty game flaws and now will charge you for a new game, make sure to buy it again it will get 99 on Metacritic and be highly rated by the retards (their fans) because why not its heckin animu

>>714532643 (OP)
I honestly liked it more than any persona game (press turn + no shitty dating sim does wonders). But if i had to list my issues.
>Huge fucking file size compared to atlus' recent releases (literally double the size of stuff like smtv:v and persona 3 reload)
>Dogshit graphical fidelity, covered up by amazing art direction but it's clear this was supposed to release on the ps3 like persona 5 did (it was in development for a while considering it had a teaser in catherine(2011))
>royal archetypes railroad each character to a specific line of archetypes, there's no reason to use an out there archetype when that's just wasting precious xp that could be going towards getting the royal archetypes
>royal destroyer + prince are stupidly broken and the latter is just given to you for free
>rella's dungeon being cut and is obviously being saved for the eventual rerelease
>i think forden was honestly a bit half baked, he's honestly just there to be an opposition towards louis towards the start of the game. would have been great to have him be a bit more of a hateable bastard earlier on, when louis killed him I honestly didn't care and i continued not to until rella's backstory was revealed.
there's more but that's all of the top of my head
>>714542265
>>714532872
>>714542356
I'm surprised that art is so hated, thats one thing i ESPECIALLY love about the game

>>714532643 (OP)
too much Persona.
i'll start playing it again sometime soon, i guess. i started the fantasyland whistlestop tour.

not enough wrpg elemtns

i think it getting a GOTY nomination is more a reflection on the lack of real choices that year (a DLC also got it), than an indicator of its quality.
it's just one of those side RPG projects Atlus puts out every once in a while. Persona, itself, was once one of those.
but it getting a GOTY nom is like if Digital Devil Story got one in 2005.

>>714532643 (OP)
Hulk's ass not big enough. Also, several other blatant issues.

>>714532805
fpbp

>>714532643 (OP)
No romance, needed another region to pad out the game. I still loved Metaphor

Should I play Metaphor or SMT V?

>>714548350

>>714532643 (OP)
Louis doesn't get fully nude.

>>714549807

>>714549638
I liked this little floppy eared goober.

>>714535537
yeah, what is the deal with that? why even give her an equipment screen if you don't do ANYTHING with it the entire game? can't even give her a DLC outfit, so weird.

>>714532643 (OP)
No shipping means no doujins and fan art

>>714540242
The soundtrack is genuinely fucking horrid and they constantly re-used the one "shit is getting real" song that wasn't performed by a special ed choir.

>>714543838
> it had a teaser in catherine(2011))
is dis real?

The gameplay is really fucking boring because it doesn't have as many options as something like SMT and the classes aren't as special as FF jobs either

The last set of dungeons were not enjoyable, were not even in the vicinity of enjoyable.

>>714550779
i agree, the boss rush especially pissed me off
coming up with a new strategy for the final boss in the middle of battle because i realized my Merchant Spam wasn't working was pretty satisfying though

>>714550779
Skybound Avatar can suck the fattest dick, that entire place felt like a series of time wasting activities.
>teleporting door maze
>the same ear enemy mechanic you already saw in Dragon Temple but there's like four of them now
Fuck OFF.

Because it doesn't do gameplay as well as SMT but it also doesn't do the cum guzzling visual novel shit persona trannies like well either
Also the music fucking sucks ass, just go play SMTVV

>>714551193
>the music fucking sucks ass
How can you not like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSoi2NytKg

>game basically has a forced harem, every female social link enfs with thirsting for the mc
>several "dates" in the main story
>every single thread for this game has people saying they won't play this game because "no romance"

>>714551047
i went there underlevelled and with almost no mana replenishment items. i stopped playing for 3 weeks and almost dropped the game completely.

My biggest issue with Metaphor was that even though they carried over the schedule system from Persona there's almost nothing to actually plan around. Every social link and nearly every activity is available every day. The discounts and free luck boost are the only things that happen on specific dates and neither of them take time. The only times I enjoyed the schedule system was when when I had to set up multi-day trips, and of course those go away once you have the flying runner. Oh, and the scene where Zorba publicly announces that he's gonna do a big terrorism on a very specific day two weeks out (so the player has a way to know when the first dungeon's deadline is) was ridiculous.

>>714543838
Forden didn't have much depth, but he didn't really represent anything more than upkeeping the broken status quo, so I didn't mind his role for what it was because Louis was the real interesting force to be reckoned with. Was glad that the most interesting villain remained the primary focus anyway.

>>714550101
I thought it was cut content, but I think support characters like Fuuka and Rise had equipment screens as well despite not using them.

>>714551714
yeah but i could give Fuuka cute outfits, and i could give Futaba equipment with Luck on it to boost her ability usage... Gallica's is straight up unused

>>714551521
The calendar system is so bizarre for story moments like that. Off the top of my head I remember the one where you chase that guy abducting and murdering children into the well in Martira and then you just...leave and decide to "prepare" to go back in and confront him for days to weeks. I mean there was a line of dialogue about how the guards will watch the well so he can't get out, but fucking seriously? How do you know there's no other exit, or that he's not down there murdering children while you cook Benevolent Bread and watch the stars.

>>714532812
i second this. although i think that the main cast of characters is so good and solid that I wouldn't want more of them and, given there are very few fuckable or romance-worthy party members, it just wouldn't make sense or be feasible. even hulkenburg, as hot as she is, is a stretch for me with regards to romance.

>>714533218
Definitely felt this. My point to stop playing was a tower-like dungeon that was completely optional. Sometimes in these JRPGs it can feel like optional content is mandatory because they hide a lot of good shit in there. I just got bored in that particular section and put down the game for the time being. Probably got 40-60 hours in, I forget.

>>714532643 (OP)
Felt like a lot of content was cut. There was no romance, but it wouldn't have killed to have it in. Sidequest dungeon design felt underwhelming, a lot of reused/asset flips. The politics are a little confused, since at the end of the day you have to enforce your will with violence and murder. We definitely needed more Human designs. Also the Seeker classes feel weak, boring, and redundant once you get Prince.

>>714533381
as someone who can't stand the majority of retro games, really just the 3d ones, due to an issue with graphical fidelity, this game actually looks really great. i think persona 5 looks amazing still, especially with the PC port having a 4k option and running at 60. this game undoubtedly looks better than P5 and Atlus only continues to improve. the art direction on SMTV is extremely lackluster and the issues with the graphical fidelity that you mention are highlighted in that game because of it.

>>714535309
We need osrs.

>>714551990
That reminds me, does the game stop you from leaving the Cathedral after the cutscene where Zorba grabs the scepter and you're supposed to chase him onto the roof, or is it theoretically possible to do everything in the dungeon up to that point at the first opportunity then leave and come back right before the deadline so he just hangs out there for like 12 days?

>>714532643 (OP)
could I enjoy this if the only atlus games I like are SMT nocturne and strange journey?

>>714532643 (OP)
One thing that genuinely annoyed me was how every other political contender you meet is some wacky extremist who the bland as fuck MC verbally destroys by saying something like "Actually...just giving everyone free beer won't fix racial warfare and the economy." and then everyone in the crowd goes wild and claps and throws money like he's just delivered the most profound speech of all time. Even in the end of the fucking game he never makes any kind of realistic concrete actionable statement about how he's going to fix all the problems in the world, just everyone else's method is mean and wrong and something something keep trying something something power of friendship, then magically everyone's problems were solved offscreen during a one year time skip don't ask how.

>>714532643 (OP)
no mage academy dungeon

>>714532643 (OP)
The game tries to divert from the main content too often. The optional dungeons aren't actually optional if you're trying to stay on level when you move to different areas.
A lot of the game is derivative from other Persona and SMT games. It's a shame because they could have done something different for the first time in a while but decided to play it safe and make Persona-lite.

>>714532805
This but Catherina. Fox girls are peak. She should have been a party member.

>>714532643 (OP)
absolute garbage
ATLUS got bought and banks killed it with WOKE

>>714554171
Anon I'm not sure how to tell you this without hurting you deeply but she's a horse, not a fox

>>714554313
A HORSE IS FINE TOO

>>714532643 (OP)
metaflop sold less in 1 year than E33 sold in 1 month.

>>714543838
I think Forden is literally just there to fake players out into thinking he is the "real" big bad only for Louis to remain the first and always villain. Then Louis turned into a mildly disappointing villain.

>>714532643 (OP)
Woke garbage