i find it weird when people champion undertale/deltarune as the ultimate examples of sincerity in gaming, knowing the origins of toby's sense of humor
specially when sites like tumblr always had irony posion and even people being cynical towards anime
something tells me there could be a chance of deltarune having a cameo of dril or mega64
the real "tumblrisms" of ut/dr aren't the furry characters or the lgbt elements, more likely they're the type of humor when you consider the roots
(i'd also bring up the differences between "tumblr cringe" and "deviantart cringe" where tumblr always had overt self-awareness, self-deprecating humor and even some cultural overlaps with somethingawful while deviantart feels alien in comparison because it's weird kids not even thinking about how the outside world sees them)
(could also be because tumblr is full of millenials who also invest in politics to feel more mature than they are)

it feels like people nowadays (and maybe as a side effect of "internet brain rot" or troll's remorse) define sincerity as "anti-cringe culture", as if simply including colorfull furry characters makes your work sincere
so by this logic: david lynch's art for example can't be sincere because it doesn't have colorfull furries or poorly drawn anime characters

but i also believe toby himself might be aware of this, which explains why he'd ever want to go to japan because barely does irony exist in anything from japan
maybe he even sees pieces of irony and the likes on his western fans
but he probably doesn't entirely regret his history with tumblr if it got him into things he did like

>>714533620 (OP)
Nigga I ain't reading all that. I'm glad for you though, or sorry that happened.

>>714533620 (OP)
nobody cares, delta rune and whatever else is for faggots who should've stayed on tumblr after the porn ban

>social media screencap image
>rambling post with no point
>about a topic that already has an active thread
We should be using AI to detect threads that tick these boxes so that it can automatically send a letter bomb to your house

>>714533620 (OP)
Very well said. A huge issue with modern writers is that they can't really tell genuine stories and instead rely on things like "embracing cringe" to give the illusion of substance. There isn't a sincere line of dialogue in Undertale (not sure about Deltarune) because the game is too concerned with moralfagging. A lot of Internet leftists are like this, they can't actually behave like real human beings unless they can browbeat people they deem beneath them with snark. Undertale is unironically a very spiteful game that feels ashamed of its existence, it just masks that with some admittedly funny gags and a decent subversion of tropes.

>>714536094
how the fuck is that unfocused, incoherent mess of a post "very well said"

>>714533620 (OP)
well what is sincerity then faggot

>>714538247
He’s probably samefagging because I have no idea what the fuck he’s trying to say either. Sincere is just one of /v/‘s favorite buzzwords lately

>>714533620 (OP)
"Irony poisoning" is a specific term. It refers to the mindset that engaging with things is inherently putting you in danger of being "cringe" if that thing is ever deemed "cringe", and thus that engagement is generally to be avoided.
I don't think Toby was ever that far into it. He knows irony, he knows cynicism, but he's not poisoned by them.

>>714538247
The same way Undertale is an insincere game filled with "moralfagging".

I wasn't aware that people considered Undertale or Deltarune "sincere". I don't really think they're the best examples, because their humor is so self-aware and absurd. It feels like a game that's almost afraid to take itself too seriously, and has to constantly defuse any potential attempt at gravity with absurd humor.
A better example of a sincere game would be Sonic Adventure 2. The game never breaks character, it never winks at the camera and expects the player to laugh along. All of its absurd stupidity is completely genuine, as is the story it tries to tell.

What is "sincere" about it, exactly?