So looks like the MMO Black Desert is free to keep on Steam for two days (and got it in my library just in case). Im not an MMO expert, only having played early WoW and GW2.
How is it? How P2W is? Can be played casually? Is really hard? Any recommendations?

>>714573705 (OP)
How about you install it and just try it out

>>714574471
That´s not how advertising works. Anyway, it goes free once a month it seems.

>>714573705 (OP)
>How is it?
Runs like shit but looks and feels really good in combat. Relationship systems are really confusing and most quests are boring.
>How P2W is?
Very. Worst part are training items where you must keep your PC running all night while you sleep to get like 20% of exp towards next level. Don't get me started on fishing
>Can be played casually?
Yes, but not understood casually. Way too much korean shit
>Is really hard?
No it's piss easy 99% of the time. But it feels good to play. Hardest part is understanding game systems and how your combat skills work, learning to combo in a fighting game kinda way. It's not "hard" because you don't need to do it to progress until very late.
>Any recommendations?
Looks at class introduction videos and specialization videos to get a vibe for how the gameplay will be and pick the coolest.
Also, don't take it seriously, use every premium boost they give you even if you think it might be a waste, and don't spend any money.

>P2W
It's in that murky space between P2W and pay for convenience
Majority of things from the the cash shop can be bought from in game market for the regular currency, but that means that someone out there had to pay real money for it to
It's absolutely not efficient but someone with ridiculous money can easily buy himself all the best equipment from the get go
People will cry about premium clothes bought with cash being hard to acquire in markets due to the amount of bids on each but you can quickly get lucky if you'll just try a few times
When I was playing I bought maybe one avatar with irl cash and the rest (some 10+ sets) from the market
The only thing you'll realistically will need to buy is a camping kit for various utility reasons that you'll curse for not having on hand, and pets
Pets serve as soft buffs when deployed, but whats important is that they gather loot for you
Otherwise you need to manually go over each pile of currency and drops and collect them yourself
Pets have tiers which you increase by exchanging two of a kind into one of a higher tier
Of course the higher the tier the quicker the looting but you can 100% go on with just four Tier 1 pets and be fine

>>714574947
> Runs like shit
> Very. Worst part are training items where you must keep your PC running all night while you sleep to get like 20% of exp towards next level. Don't get me started on fishing

Not installing a gook crypto miner

it's alright if you want to dick around in a huge world but anything around endgame is ass

>>714573705 (OP)
Not really interested in MMO games any more. I'm still waiting for Crimson Desert. Feels like 10 years or something since they announced it.

>>714575057
Okay, it's incredibly p2w and not worth playing.

>>714573705 (OP)
it's really a mix of grinding for 10 hours in same spot to gain really small percentage of a level and leaving your game on for the night to skill some fully automated skill like fishing or horse training.
Game overall feels like a job which you have to spend money on to be able to see the progress of your character in reasonable time.
It does have some fun combat and few interesting professions but it will take you hundreds if not thousand of hours to even reach the point where you can have fun with it and by this time you'll want to automate everything.

>>714573705 (OP)
>How is it?
Combat is bang woosh colorful pixel vomit and screen shake. Pic very related. But the character creator is nice.

>>714573705 (OP)
Best MMORPG in the market if you like grinding and want an open world MMORPG.
Also the best combat of any MMORPG.

isnt this the game that randomly gives you a vac ban whenever the devs decide to?

>>714576496
uh ohhhhhhh melty

>>714573705 (OP)
You will never be able to catch up to the best geared players because they are all whales swiping credit card, but if you like grinding and learning your classes' PVE combos it can be enjoyable. The game continually makes it easier to get welfare catch up gear and upgrades handed out. So they are always constantly ratcheting up the vertical progression but also raising your welfare gear. Can you go to the best highest profit grinding area? No, someone with a credit card is going to flag up and dunk on you and repeatedly kill you until you fuck off. Can you fuck off and find an okay spot? Sure. Will any top gearscore pvp nerds let you into their guild to fight in pvp? No, but its also trash - the laggiest combat you have ever seen- classes spamming iframes and 1shotting you. Theres no real skill or defensive armor sets or any interesting mechanics. You might find a duel enjoyable if the other player is the same gearscore as you.

very VERY p2w and grindy

>>714573705 (OP)
Are the servers still divide by region or did they combined so all players are in the same server

>>714573705 (OP)
>How P2W is?
It's gook trash so it should answer all your questions

>>714579978
What are you winning?

>>714583687
life and females

>>714583687
it's a pvp game so you're winning against people who don't pay
is it worth it? no
does it make some people dopamine skyrocket? for sure

>>714585015
There's capped PvP content you can do, where gear doesn't matter.

>>714573705 (OP)
It has an in depth character creation if you're like me who like to waste hours on adjusting sliders.
I don't know the current state of the game but i got the most of my fun from horse riding.

How come no one tried to compete with Black Desert? I don't recall a single MMO with this type of system. There's Epitome, but it's most likely a scam like Chrono Odyssey.

At least we have Vindictus. If it ever leave beta testing.

>>714575942
>But the character creator is nice.
By far, the ONLY character creator that lets you build a muscle mommy. No other has ever tried to recreate this perk.

>>714573705 (OP)
>How is it?
It's pretty unique in how the combat gameplay feels compared to other MMOs or Action RPGs play. It can be as simple as you want it and as complex as you want it, depends on how much you enjoy minmaxing. After hundreds of hours of killing mobs I still find new combos and skills that can flow from one another.
>How P2W is?
It can be very P2W and at the same time F2P friendly. For example, if you let your egoism get to you and want to go after the e-dick measurement contest that is called Uncapped PvP, you can throw close to 50k dollars and hardcapped players can still gearcheck you. On the other hand, no mandatory subscription is needed, no DLC or expansion locked behind a paywall, and you can experience the whole game without spending anything extra than the initial purchase, which currently is 0. Some of the pseudo-subscription items are also given occasionally and can also be gained through the daily login currency. Rationing these items is part of the learning curve of the game.
>Can be played casually?
At its core, BDO is a casual, single player game with some co-op elements and some optional PvP game modes. The current dev team is still trying to change the old BDO image painted by the previous publisher, Kakao, who promoted the game as an open world PvP game, because that model was making them a lot of money short term, but almost killed it after the majority of the playerbase couldn't keep up with the high spenders and the griefers.
>Is really hard?
It's as hard or as easy as you want it to be. There are classes that can facetank mobs and spam 4 skills and other classes where are advertised as finger shredders with how much APM they require to really shine.
>Any recommendations?
Ignore the meta niggers, pick a class that you vibe with or makes you coom and try the game. The game is free, there is nothing to lose other than time, and if your time was important you wouldn't be here.

>>714573705 (OP)
Good combat and visuals, trash gearing system that keeps getting worse and you will be filtered by the menus and all the other shit there's in the game since it's a 10 year old mmo with tons of content.
>>714575057
>It's in that murky space
lmao no it's not it's been p2w since release and is still p2w, if not more p2w than ever before now with all the fucking cron sinks they keep adding and the new Edania castle stuff where you have to have top 10 gear score on the whole server to even enter.

>>714585954
They did, and they failed.

>>714573705 (OP)
I think the game is genuinely fun, but it makes my PC crash a lot for some reason so I just don't bother anymore

>>714576496
that was lost ark
both are korean slop