>Xbox and Rare have started taking pitches for a new Banjo-Kazooie game from different studios. Both Toys for Bob and Moon Studios have apparently pitched their ideas and that is not all as apparently there has been constant talks about interest in a cartoon or movie adaptation of Banjo-Kazooie.
>Ori developer Moon Studios has also expressed interest in making a new Banjo game.

I'll believe it when I see a trailer drop.

>>714581594 (OP)
Don't do it, OP. Don't give me hope.

>>714581594 (OP)
>Moon Studio
>Toys For Bob

*Barf*

>>714581594 (OP)
a donkey kong country-inspired banjo game by the ori dev could be legit awesome

>>714581772
Given the last week of news, I wouldn't believe it until the thing actually launches.

Next Xbox will probably have 2000s level CGI. It won't be Avatar 2008/toy story 3 level yet though.

But baby games will look amazing on it.

If you look at evolution of CGI in movies you can see we are currently in the late 90s CGI tech.

NUTS & BOLTS II
I'd love it genuinely, but it'd be fucking typical.

>>714581594 (OP)
i honestly wonder why it was so difficult to just make a new one

>>714581594 (OP)
>Toys for Bob
Banjo discussion will become subject to the same drama as Spyro and Crash. But it's all down to if Microsoft gives enough of a fuck to actually make a new game, which they absolutely do not.

it cant be worse than yooka laylee, which was so trash that they're "remastering" it with fundamental changes to make it half decent

>>714583831
>Banjo discussion will become subject to the same drama as Spyro and Crash.
>Spiral Mountain's grass is TOO GREEN
>Kazooie has TOO MANY FEATHERS
>Klungo looks TOO UGLY
oh boy I can't wait

I really don't even care at this point the game just needs to be at least decent and I'll be happy it's been like 17 years alright let me have this you joyless fucks

>>714581594 (OP)
Banjo was never good

>>714583978
It needed momentum akin to sonic tony hawk pro skater.

>>714581594 (OP)
I'll believe it when it releases and not a day sooner.

>>714586317
>sorry I meant to say that I am a gen A with no childhood and I just had gender affirmative surgery.

>>714586017
Anon, BK came out in 1998.
>Inb4 Xbox rerelease/Nuts & Bolts
Well, you're spot-on there.

i don't want it
i don't want to get monkey pawed
i don't want kazooie turned into a mystery meat kween

>>714586945
Trying too hard, Raresnoy

>>714581594 (OP)
Nothing ever happens. Even if it gets past the pitch, it's going to be a super sanitized version with no crass british humor.

>>714587058
I get the kween part, but what the hell does mystery meat mean in this case?

>>714586945
Not that anon but he is right
Banjo was just a collectathlon with bad platforming and ugly designs

>>714587393
ok

>>714581594 (OP)
I must say it would be really funny and sad if all it took to get a new Banjo game greenlit was Gregg Mayles leaving Rare.

>>714581594 (OP)
>>714581957
The door was literally open the whole fucking time
Killer Instinct and Battletoads are proof of that
Hell, before they died the Initiative CHOSE Perfect Dark

>>714583680
Because Rare didn't want to make one and nobody else was pitching
If people are pitching (and those people are good) it has a chance

>>714587820
Wouldn't be surprised if the new younger people in charge of rare want to actually use some of the ips they are sitting on. Im genuinely surprised that some of the old rare devs in charge of evereild couldn't get that game out the door after like 10 years of dev time.

>>714587271
ambiguously ethnic

If yooka-replaylee ends up good can they not just give it to them

>>714588664
That depends if Playtonic wanted it or not

>>714582054
Toys for Bob's designs would be a million times more appealing than the garbage Rare itself churned out for Nuts & Bolts.

>>714581594 (OP)
Didn't microsoft just kill that off? Is the date on that pic edited?

>>714588848
No, there has been no Banjo game in development at Microsoft since N&B.

I would honestly be more intrested in seeing a somewhat playable version Twelve Tales dumped, than anything made by Current Rare or TfB. Moon studios is fine, but i don't think they could match the originals in terms of writing.

>>714588848
You have four choices
>Rumored Banjo was legit, it wasn't these pitches, got canned
>Rumored Banjo was legit, it is one of these pitches, got canned
>Rumored Banjo was legit, it's one of these pitches, it's still alive much to everyone's surprise
>Rumored Banjo wasn't legit, entirely separate from these pitches

>>714588420
Then it wouldn't be a "kween."

Moon would be weird
They kind of ended up being distanced from Xbox
https://www.ign.com/articles/moon-studios-xbox-report

>>714581594 (OP)
if they're seriously considering a banjo-kazooie game they should have a codevelopment with the dev team of odyssey because there's no fucking way they're going to even remotely release a promising product. I get that odyssey and maybe even the new dk game isn't that good of a game, but the polish and core idea running through these games like a red thread is important and I know anyone else is just gonna fucking fumble the shit just like playtonic did with yooka-laylee. They need to look towards people in the industry with good track record of understanding an IP and being able to stay true to the "vision" that was deployed by devs and the "vision" that was in reality observed by consumers. Take Sakurai for example, give it to the man himself to craft the best looking Ken from SF. Give it to him to realize banjo-kazooies design the best, along other fanfavorite characters.

>>714589384
No rest for the wicked bombed so they're crawling back to Microsoft to try and pitch a banjo game and ori 3

>>714588718
playtonic just recently had a massive layoff iirc. They are not gonna be able to shoulder this IP at all.

>>714589405
What's in it for Nintendo?
Why would they allocate resources from EPD (one of their star players in their core studio even) to help Microsoft with a new Banjo Kazooie?

>>714589613
I'm sure theres more to it than that as a problem
>But while Moon Studios was closely associated with Xbox, it reportedly had a fraught relationship with the platform holder, filled with missed deadlines, conflicts over funding amounts, and constantly changing scope. Moon Studios' next project is reportedly an action RPG that it is developing in partnership with Private Division.
They'd need a change in management, otherwise Microsoft would likely feel hesitant working with them again if those problems aren't fixed

>>714589685
If Nintendo could negotiate it as a Switch exclusive, then its just another title to incentivize players to buy a switch even if MS would get a cut of the game's sales. The thing is, even with MS being a glorified third party I doubt they see the value in licensing an IP for a game that does not in some way drive players to Gamepass.

>>714589685
That's up to microsoft and nintendo to settle. In terms of having a successful game developed, it would, in my opinion, be in the best of microsofts interests. Timed exclusive isn't such a bad idea either, nintendo has been open for such games like monster hunter risebreak. It could also open the door for nintendo to develop games that doesn't use their IP but can be profitable on other platforms.

Let's say, nintendo allocates a 70% dominated dev team to this IP, it releases on xbox/steam and they get their worth out of it while xbox would be able to boost their whatever gamepass and future plans they have for their brand. With my surface level knowledge, I don't see why it wouldn't be an investment for both sides to codevelop/copublish IP's like this.

>>714590145
>>714590184
Wouldn't it make more logical sense for them to have that team at EPD work on a Mario game instead given its a more popular IP and they can keep all the profits?

>>714589908
If I were Microsoft i would still do a deal with them considering they arguably made the 2 best xbox games of the Xbox one generation

>>714590184
MH Rise was very much developed primarily by Capcom rather than an actual Nintendo studio. I think that ratio is too much for Nintendo to consider even if it's not their own IP. I think Nintendo considers both their IPs and their developers of equal value to not diminish either by offering their services outside of their own hardware platform. It's through more than just Japanese work culture that they've been able to keep staff at Nintendo for multiple decades. (Literally everyone who made the first super mario had an actual development or producer credit for Mario Wonder)

>>714590572
That's exactly why the hypothetical is flawed. There's just very little value to be considered from Nintendo or Microsoft's end, even if they have a more cooperative relationship with each other now.

>>714583831
>Banjo discussion will become subject to the same drama as Spyro and Crash.
You're assuming it would ever come out

>>714581594 (OP)
If its not Rare themselves, I'm not interested. In fact, now that the shitty Perfect Dark reboot is canned, have Rare do a proper one for that series too.

>>714591016
Thoughts on Perfect Dark Zero?

>>714591127
Love it. Super underrated game and just as fun as the original.

>>714590572
>>714590780
absolutely, but if nintendo can plan their years ahead in a good manner, I'm sure it's feasible to provide a few of their talents. "Lending" out your expertise in return for profit or some good deal, such as a timed exclusive isn't bad. Naysaying because work culture or not

I'm just throwing shit out there. There are possibilities that could net both a value. I don't see it impossible that someone familiar with platforming and the core concepts of a B&K game, especially the young talent, could provide assistance in what microsoft would presumably like to be a successful title.

>>714591345
>I'm just throwing shit out there.
It's called wishful thinking

>>714588990
Absolutely, there's just something inherently fascinating about those lost builds from the golden era. Twelve Tales in particular is like this weird Rosetta Stone of both Conker and Rare’s design evolution-seeing how it pivoted into Bad Fur Day would put a ton of things into perspective. That era had this raw creativity that newer devs, even talented ones like Moon, can't replicate because they’re too polished, too safe now. The clunk and weirdness of proto-Rare titles is part of what made them so full of charm. I’d take a janky build of Twelve Tales over any sanitized nostalgia-bait reboot.

>>714590616
Eh....if it's really between Toys for Bob and Moon, the latter makes better games but the former would likely be more reliable to get the game actually released on time

>>714581594 (OP)
>We didn't kill Rare! Look, look! Rare is fine!
>[props up Rare's corpse and animatedly shakes it around]
>You see?! Rare is very much alive and will make a new game any moment now. You'll see! Look forward to it okay?

>>714581594 (OP)
Until they prove otherwise, nothing ever happens.

They're only saying this because Greg mayles is gone lol

>>714581594 (OP)
just let it die, holy shit..

What made Banjo great was the music and dorky characters. Each level had some retard looney tune lobotomite in it singing about stealing and killing shit

>>714581594 (OP)
>starts development
>cancelled 18 months later
not hype at all.
love BK, would love a new game.
But it's Microsoft. just meh.

>>714591861
Rare doesn't want to make a new Banjo Kazooie

>>714591909
This isn't Microsoft saying that

>>714590837
slit your throat /vt/ranny

Their answer will be "go back to the Sea of Thieve mines, know your place, peasant."

Nuts and bolts did a lot to improve Humba Wumba but I hope they make more progress there. Mumbo is also quite problematic. I'd love to see the transgender frog and her husband from banjo tooie make a return

You think they'd find Humba Wumba too problematic and proceed to either remove her or drastically change her past simply making her speak normal English?

>>714592645
Rare's 100% a-okay with other devs handling their IPs and support it all the way through
They just don't like touching their back catalog themselves because they don't like sticking to the past

>>714592668
Mumbo isn't human so he largely gets a pass

>>714581594 (OP)
time to rape its corpse

>>714592672
Hopefully they make her naked.

>>714588834
spyro and crash look like dogshit

>>714588834
>Toys for Bob's designs would be a million times more appealing
The Nuts & Bolts characters already look like they were designed by Toys for Bob.

>>714583831
Toys 4 bob kazooie would probably be hot as long as they don't nu tawna her. Should definitely make grunty become hot grunty from bks bad ending somehow

>>714593247
fucking THIS

>>714586978
Tfw you wouldn't even mind nuts and bolts 2 at this point

>>714591016
>If its not Rare themselves
Is there even anyone from the original Banjo teams left? What good would that do? Do you just seek comfort in their logo?

>>714592668
>improve Humba Wumba but I hope they make more progress there.
The simplest thing is to make her speak normally, Native Americans don't use AIPE anymore.
Otherwise yeah, Humba Wumba in Nuts & Bolts is as "offensive" as Tiger Lily in Disney's Peter Pan
Yeah people give flack toward the film for its portrayal of Natives (even people who worked on the film think it could've been done a lot better) but nobody complains about Tiger Lily because she's CUTE (and doesn't talk).
The only extra mile they could go with is having an actual tribe be involved like what happened with Thunder's redesign in Killer Instinct but I honestly don't think that's necessary.
Banjo's world is so far removed from reality (unlike Killer Instinct which explicitly takes place in a setting like ours' complete with identical geography) and Humba's redesign in Nuts & Bolts was already less "offensive" to begin with.
Granted I kind of struggle to envision her modern mechanic themed attired working well if she's still a Shaman in this game but again, it's less about what you have the character say and wear and more about what you have them don't say and wear.

>>714593706
they need to make her fat and disabled

>>714593909
Then she's no longer cute (unless you have two specific fetishes)

>>714581594 (OP)
>Gregg Mayles leaves
>suddenly Banjo is back on the table
Told you he was the problem. He didn’t want to make another Banjo game after Tooie. NaB was a compromise and he still made the game about how Banjo is lame.

>>714593419
Same, sadly.
It was an enjoyable game.

>>714593909
>>714594058
She should be very cute and chubby

>>714594058
>New Banjo game
>When the main creative mind gave up
>Developed by Microsoft
>And Juguetes Para Roberto
Only Mexicans could fall for that

>>714594303
Only if she has big tits again

A modern banjo would be made into a furry game

>>714594361
Oh, I almost forgot
>Grifter Studios
It's more than obvious that Moon's CEO came back begging Microsoft for a contract after his "muhh womynz harassment" fight to get unlimited funds and save his company, like Kojima did with OD.
Let's wait a few months for them to announce that the collaboration didn't work out and that Moon Studios was suddenly saved from bankruptcy lol

>>714594160
>Told you he was the problem.
I mean, he outright said he didn't want to make a Banjo game anymore. Sea of Thieves is all he cared about.

>>714594361
>>When the main creative mind gave up
he was holding it back

>>714581594 (OP)
Nuts & Bolts came out over a decade ago, last actual Banjo was 25 years ago.
It's over, accept it.

>>714593909
Lily from SF6 didn't have consultants and her design is kind of a clusterfuck of varying tribes that make no logical sense
She's not as thoughtfully constructed as modern Thunder but she still gets a pass because she's cute and still avoids the usual stereotypes people dislike

>>714594517
This. Crash and Spyro went from Animaniacs to furaffinity shit.

>>714583831
sorry anon but the only way gamers will play 3D platformers staring anthropomorphic animals now is if they're fuckable

>>714595701
What was his fucking problem?

>>714596074
He's Rare
No seriously, he's supposed to be Rare themselves
The intro as maligned as it is, is literally meta commentary on the game's development with L.O.G. serving as Rare's self-insert

>>714588834
>Defending Toys for Bob designs

Their "designs" killed Crash Bandicoot.

I've been seeing unending "discussions of concepts of rumors of a new Banjo" articles for well over a decade now. Nothing ever happens.

>>714596208
I figured he was more of an abstract representation of game industry jewery. Taking about "sales and demographics and "what the modern gamer wants"

>>714596854
>Taking about "sales and demographics and "what the modern gamer wants
He was being sarcastic and pessimistic when he talked about the modern gamer only wanting to shoot things

>>714581772
Game would still be 5+ years away after the trailer is released

>>714581594 (OP)
What's VGC's track record?

>>714581594 (OP)
a game where you just explore worlds and do platforming doesn't work anymore. Timmy isn't going to buy a cartoony looking whimsical game that looks like it has soul, they want to play killer god slashing thousands of slow moving enemies.

Gears For Breakfast would be a better fit than Toys For Bob or Playtonic because TFB has put out an appealing design and Steve Mayles has lost his mind

>>714598274
Indie devs don't have to worry about deadlines

>>714581594 (OP)
It's been 20+ years. Does anyone who worked on the first two games still work at rare? Can modern rare even make a good banjo game?

>>714581594 (OP)
>Toys for Bob
They've never made anything that isn't a remaster, so I don't think they can be trusted with anything but a remaster.
>Moon Studios
They've proven themselves capable of making platformers, but they've never done a 3D platformer before. It would be interesting at least.

>>714581594 (OP)
>movie adaptation of Banjo-Kazooie.

Zendaya as Kazooie.

>>714598598
>They've never made anything that isn't a remaster,
Crash 4

>>714581594 (OP)
>shit project gets canned after years of nothing but smoke and mirrors
>quick break the nostalgia glass
I'll believe it when it releases and not a day before.

>>714598596
Are they even alive? The man that bought me my first copy of BK is dead now that I think about it

>>714598629
Wanda Sykes as kazooie and Seth Rogan as banjo.

>>714598598
>They've never made anything that isn't a remaster
oh they did make something that wasn't a remaster, it was Crash bandicoot 4 it's about time and it sucked (at least to me). So yeah, I'd say I'm good on them making any games that aren't remasters. As for Moon Studios, I'd prefer another Ori game, but I, too, would be interested in seeing how they do a 3d platformer.

>>714581594 (OP)
honestly I can't think of anyone who I'd want to pick up the IP, it really feels like most companies have forgotten how to make fun 3D collect-a-thons. At this point I'd rather just let banjo be put to rest.

>Gregg Mayles is responsible for Nuts & Bolts AND no new Banjo games
I hope he dies painfully
What a stubborn egotistical jackass

>>714598596
No and no. Gregg Mayles and Louise O'Connor were probably the last of Rare veterans and left after their vaporware got canned.

>>714598981
He doesn't want to make a new Banjo Kazooie himself, he's not opposed to other devs on the helm

>>714581594 (OP)
no they don't, you guys have been doing this rumor for 10 years at this point

>>714599213
Examples?

>>714581594 (OP)
This reeks of PR spin after the recent MS news

>>714594303
Found this on Deviantart

>>714599137
You know nobody was going to fucking touch it while he was there.

>>714599303
Except that doesn't work when it's not Microsoft themselves saying it
It's a rumor being passed along by some guys on a podcast who I'm not sure have credentials or not

>>714592534
You didn't that i was wrong though

>>714598981
>>714599137
>>714599384
I think the really stupid thing at the end of the day is why was Microsoft so insistent on leaving the fate of this series in the hands of someone who was very evidently burned out on it and didn't want anything to do with it anymore?

Like I get it, Gregg never liked to sit in one place or genre for too long and wanted to experiment with new shit every other game, that's basically the mentality that got us Banjo-Kazooie after he worked on DKC1 and DKC2 back to back. The difference is that at least Rare at the time was willing to have separate teams handle the remaining DK platformers for the rest of their duration with Nintendo. I just don't get why the same couldn't have happened with Banjo while Gregg fucked off to make whatever he wanted the same way, in a way it already kinda happened back in the aughts where Rare's handheld team made Grunty's Revenge whereas Gregg/the Banjo team were making fucking Grabbed by the Ghoulies on Xbox.

>>714600831
>The difference is that at least Rare at the time was willing to have separate teams handle the remaining DK platformers for the rest of their duration with Nintendo
HD development happened and Rare couldn't have as many separate teams anymore

>>714581594 (OP)
>Giving up Banjo to a third party
The absolute state of Rare

>>714581594 (OP)
Watch it take 8 years of development before it's cancelled.

>>714601385
At this point the best thing Microsoft can do is give all their IP's to third parties and become a publishing studio.
If even id Software goes to shit under their rule, then they're clearly not capable of developing games on any level.

>>714601385
That has already been a thing since 2013, with Killer Instinct and Battletoads. The former was at least well regarded in the long run but the latter was a flop all around. They also tried the same thing with Perfect Dark but look how THAT turned out.

>>714602334
And young conker.

>>714586017
It would be funny because the Toys for Bob fugly artstyle would probably fit with how nuts and bolts looked.

>>714601385
>Giving up Banjo to a third party
>The absolute state of Rare
Why not? None of the original team is around anymore. Give it to Rare or give it to somebody else, it's the same thing in the end

>>714587820
>>714588327
The several Rare and ex-Rare developer comments points to Mayles becoming a huge faggot after the sale to Xbox, which makes sense, considering he probably got a big lump sum of fuck you money from that. The narrative in the 2010s was that Microsoft ruined Rare (i.e. Microsoft "forced" Rare to make nuts and bolts over a normal platformer), but everything from the devs points to them making several in-depth drafts of platformers and Mayles shooting it down because he was "bored of it". I knew the company was done once Seavor left.

>>714581594 (OP)
They were just saying it’d never be on the table like 3 months ago, and that there was no demand for it.
I’d be happy to get a new one but I have very little faith in any modern devs

>>714581594 (OP)
Wake me up when they make a new Blast Corps game. It probably won't be good, but as long as there's a chance..........

>>714603149
>The narrative in the 2010s was that Microsoft ruined Rare (i.e. Microsoft "forced" Rare to make nuts and bolts over a normal platformer)
Which is crazy because Microsoft is the most hands-off publisher/owner in the industry, to the detriment of the studios it seems

>>714581594 (OP)
How long will it be before Microsoft just outright cancel it?

>>714603149
Almost reminds me of how people keep pettling how Miyamoto "forced" Rare against their will to turn Dinosaur Planet into Star Fox Adventures, when interviews reveal that it was merely an offer that they agreed because they didn't have enough faith in Dinosaur Planet as its own original IP released so late in the N64's lifespan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-bPiQr9AoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO7ocvmoDBc

>>714596648
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>714603769
>>714603440
It's funny that so much of "gaming knowledge" in the 2000s and 2010s was based on complete bullshit that youtubers would just echo off of eachother. Rare could literally be a case study in mismanagement of a dev studio.

>>714603671
>How long will it be before Microsoft just outright cancel it?
Anywhere from 8 to 10 years

>>714596607
irredeemable. I'll also never forgive tbem for making Crash a cūckold

>>714603769
>Interviews reveal that he told IGN that he "wished they would make it into a starfox game" 1 week after he already did that and then commissioned namco to make Assault before Adventures was even finished.

It reminds me of how people think he had a beef with Rare because of DKC when it was really because he had to delay OoT for a year because he saw BK and shat bricks.

>>714605413
>Rare could literally be a case study in mismanagement of a dev studio.
That would be interesting. Also it's neat looking back to see that Nintendo probably saw the wheels falling off the studio and thus wisely refused the buyout offer. Rare was going to be a disaster under Nintendo or Microsoft, and probably would have utterly collapsed as an independent studio

>>714581594 (OP)
A proper one or some Nuts and Bolts shit?

Banjo should never be made by an American developer.

>>714607095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbpY5Mhpvio

>OMG Rare!

>>714607264
This. The heart and soul of Banjo is crude Brit writing and humor

>>714581594 (OP)
noooOOOOOOOOOOO

>>714581594 (OP)
Cool. It'll be another 10 years before we get news of its cancellation and the 7 guys not in retirement homes who remember the old titles will be very upset I'm sure.

>>714609331
If they actually had them making the new perfect dark it would have been finished by now. See the problem is they let some literal who studio do it instead and they paid the price for it. Microsoft waited so fucking long to start using Rare that many of the OG's got old and retired. They have their pirate game but now they've been gimped yet again by Microshit's mass layoffs and restructuring of Rare.
This never happened when Rare actually owned themselves, even when they worked for Nintendo they still were independent. It was only when Microsoft in classic fashion buys a dev and just sits on them does this stuff happen. Their pitches go unheard and all the ad money and attention goes to CoD and Halo instead because that's their bing bing wahoo's.

>>714610274
>If they actually had them making the new perfect dark it would have been finished by now. See the problem is they let some literal who studio do it instead and they paid the price for it.
Everwild took a decade to just get canceled in the end. Rare developing Perfect Dark would change nothing

>>714581772
Don't even trust that, reminder that they teased a Banjo Kazooie platformer on Xbox 360.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC2eEtu65jI

>>714610274
>>714610502
Fun fact: Rare already had two different attempts at new Perfect Dark games that were canned.

https://lostmediawiki.com/Velvet_Dark_(lost_build_of_cancelled_sequel_to_%22Perfect_Dark%22_Nintendo_64_first-person_shooter;_1999-2000)
https://perfectdark.fandom.com/wiki/Perfect_Dark_Core

>>714610502
Which again was just microsoft being retarded. They cancelled it and fired those devs. They ignored their pitches for Banjo Kazooie and they put them working on shit like Kinect. A lot of thier games got put off for multiple console generations.
An incredibly retarded move imo because Rare is actually profitable and knows their shit instead of many of the other pretender devs who got in on the microshit express.

>>714610659
>was canceled after the development team was assigned to other projects.
So that would be around 2005-2006 which would mean they would have been assigned to removing blades from the 360 and improving the OS/menu system and most likely seeing if they could software fix their red ring issue.

Can someone explain to me why Microsoft is listening to pitches for a new game AFTER all the layoffs?? Like I don't get it, what's the correlation. If anything I would have thought the cuts meant the have no interest in making a new game

Literally where is this renewed interest coming from all of a sudden, I don't understand

>>714610659
>a third-person stealth game
>a mech shooter
why were they so allergic to making another actual Perfect Dark? It sounds like they really didn't want to make one. Were they forced into working on Perfect Dark Zero and make it an actual FPS?

>>714611062
I'm pretty sure Andy said that he heard these pitches a couple of months ago, so before all of this happened.

>>714581594 (OP)
cant wait for it to be cancelled mid development
also nu-rare is so different from the old rare (even N&B rare) that I dont think they could make a competent entry if their lives depended on it.

>>714611062
Because something entering pre-production now doesn't need to scale up a workforce for full development for at least a year or two.

>>714611959
Hell, there's a possibility that pitch he heard IS the game that supposedly got canned and was first rumored years ago
Banjo is cursed

>>714607264
>>714608123
I feel the same about Rayman
The only people I trust handling it are either the French or the kind of person who fully is aware just how French Rayman is and knows how to derive inspiration from French media and art like Bande-Desiness

>>714581594 (OP)
There hasn't been 1 (ONE) 3D platformer collectathon that has come close to being as good as Banjo Kazooie in almost 30 years, the people who made it are probably dead.
Nobody is pulling it off, they don't have the essence.

>>714591470
you dumb fuck nobody said otherwise? That's basically what my first reply to this stupid thread was, wishful thinking, >>714589405

go suck a fucking dick for trying to be smart ass on 4chan

>>714581594 (OP)
>One Banjo-Kazooie game coming up saar

It took me way too long for me to realize Nipper didn't actually want to help and only wanted to "help"
He was never innocent

>>714614940
all more assimilated to western culture and paler than italians and italian americans btw

>>714589637
The only people they laid off were women and minorities. Banjo alumni are still there.

>>714615593
banjo alumni did a shit job with the spiritual successor imo. What I was trying to say is that the workload is too much for a successful product for this IP. It's not gonna do well unless you have a good amount of the right people.

>>714615181
Is it too early in Delhi to be posting on 4chan?

>>714581594 (OP)
want a new Banjo-Kazooie game? here it is.

Okay so Perfect Dark was too expensive and likely unfocused
Everwilds was unfocused, had change in directors, etc
Why would a new Banjo Kazooie game presumably made by competent devs (albeit Moon sounds like a shithole) fall apart?

>>714616445
Yeah I agree. Gears For Breakfast might be a good fit. They got Grant Kirkhope to compose a few tracks for A Hat In Time. They just need Chris Sutherland to record Banjo and Kazooie mumbling new dialogue.

>>714586017
Nobody owes you anything faggot. Only the strong survive. Banjo was weak, Rare was weaker. They killed Banjo despite everyone begging them not to. Blame Rare, end of stiory

>>714586317
It was good, but that’s it. It didnt revolutionize anything that Mario or any platform didnt already do better.

>>714581594 (OP)
>Well lets use the IP which doesn't have human women in it surely our woke teams won't fuck this up

>>714588420
how can it be ethnic? it’s a fucking bird with feathers. Are you scared they’ll change its iconic red feathers to brown? it’s still a bird with feathers and a beak. You people are nuts.

>>714616824
How long did it take A Hat in Time to come out again?
Also, aren't they busy with something else?

>>714586317
You take that back!

>>714617237
and also aren't they a bag of dicks? game was good, but the devs were so pissy about porting the game to switch and only did a 180 once they realized the profit they could make.

>>714581594 (OP)
Banjo Threeie was framed on the wall behind emergency glass.
Too bad gamers already know that we only think we want it, but really don't.

>>714617570
I think what Mayyles meant was that a Banjo Threeie for the sake of a Banjo Threeie would just be diminishing returns
It wouldn't live up to the hype if there was no new additional feature to keep the gameplay fresh

>>714617727
We're so old at this point that a tendie slop sequel with decent art and style is still doted on.
See Pikmin 4

>>714617387
I don't see how that's an issue as long as the game is good. Do you not own a PC?

>>714617387
Bag of dicks to gamers != Bag of dicks to publishers
If they can play nice, deliver progress on time, etc Microsoft will have no problem to them
They'd sooner take them than say, Moon

>>714581594 (OP)
OH WOW, THE STUDIO KNOWN FOR CANCELLING 90% OF RARE GAMES AND CLOSING DOWN STUDIOS WANTS TO MAKE A NEW GAME THAT THEY'LL CANCEL IN 3 YEARS???
SO HOOOOOYYYYPED

>>714618103
never played it on the switch. Played the pc version and it's a great game. Just that I have less trust in the developers doing the right choices. They haven't really developed anything else other than aHiT, so you could easily chalk it up to dumb luck with that one game.

>>714581594 (OP)
It doesn't matter either way, if they go ahead with it, it will suck.

>>714611062
I suspect the issue has always been rare never wanted to make another banjo platformer
>>714617727
>It wouldn't live up to the hype if there was no new additional feature to keep the gameplay fresh
this sorta attitude, I don't agree with it, but a lot of people do

>>714581594 (OP)
This will go nowhere.

>>714619275
It's a Banjo-Kazooie game
How hard can it be?

>>714619432
>it's a banjo-kazooie spiritual successor
>how hard can it be?
idk ask playtonic

>>714581594 (OP)
Unless it's a 1:1 remake, I don't want a new game after what happened with Crash 4. I would unironically prefer my favorite franchise to remain dead, knowing that trying to revive it will only lead to its ruin.

Was she wearing a breegull feather?

>>714619212
>>714620279
>Gets cut from the new game/remake because depicting a Native American is just seen as racist now
>All of the female characters will have their breast size reduced

>>714620552
There are work-arounds
Either work with an actual tribe for authenticity like pic related or just avoid the bare minimum of what would be considered insensitive.
The feather is stereotypical sure but it's not like she's wearing a war bonnet or an eagle feather
The only real "offensive" thing about Humba is her speaking AIPE

>>714620739
Or you can just tell everyone to fuck off and remake her because it's not racist in the slightest and Native Americans should count themselves lucky they're being depicted positively somewhere

>>714581957
we got no remasters when Crash and Spyro did. it's ok banjo bro we dont need the hope

>>714581772
>show of average looking gameplay trailer
>5 years later turns out all of this was a vertical slice demo and the game gets cancelled

>>714605413
Also mistranslations, uncited sources, etc
Tajiri having autism, Jungle Beat's devs thinking the Rare characters were lame, etc

>>714581594 (OP)
YEAH RIGHT, they mocked the idea of making a Banjo Kazooie game TWO MONTHS AGO or something. There's no god damn way they went and shitcanned 9000 employees and declared they want to make the game. This is some south park, cut the chicken head off, let it wander the roulette, type of shit.

>>714581594 (OP)
>>714581772
I'll believe it when OP links a credible fucking source.

>>714586317
It certainly was a game on the Nintendo 64.

>>714622376
46:25
https://www.thegamer.com/xbox-rare-banjo-kazooie-pitches-toys-for-bob-moon-studios/

>>714622376
https://youtu.be/qitFuPQ_2SU?feature=shared&t=2787
It's a rumor but I'm not sure of this guy's track record

>>714583109
Lol i loved Nuts and Bolts I made some cool shit on there

>>714619014
It took them the rest of the SNES lifespan to figure out what Banjo-Kazooie even was, and even then they still weren't satisfied with the final result.

>>714608123
>crude Brit writing and humor

Not Banjo for a nanosecond. That's Conker's Bad Fur Day and you fucking know it.

>>714623008
>Not Banjo for a nanosecond.

>>714591232
>>714591127
Fucking trash

honestly i hope its nuts and bolts 2, platformers are so played out

>>714623263
>calling anything so played out
>wanting SLOPenworld BOTW3
lol

>>714581594 (OP)
>Toys for Bob
The worst thing that could happen would be if furries got their hands on Rareware character designs.

>Kikes for Bob
Humba and Mumbo's feathers will get removed
Humba and /or Tooty will be transformed into a girl boss archetype and Humba will speak normally
Sexy Grunty nerfed
Banjo and Kazooie say trans rights
Tranny frog and her husband will return with a pride parade.
Innuendos will be non-existent
British banter humor will be replaced with millennial writing quips and jokes
The game will be generic as fuck and piss easy

>>714624368
Feathers are only taboo if it's specifically eagle feathers or the war bonnett
Feathers aren't even a Native specific thing anyways

>>714581594 (OP)
Kazooie in: Anon with Expanded Pack

They should make Humba more offensive

>>714581772
shit, don't even believe that. wait until it actually releases.

Jinjo is a funny word because it sounds like a slur

>>714581594 (OP)
>Xbox and Rare have started taking pitches for a new Banjo-Kazooie game from different studios
Yeah that ain't going to happen. Even if they green light it they'll cancel it within a year of it being finished

>>714627664
They should make her fart

>>714632021
JINJOS HAVE SOULS!

>>714581594 (OP)
Call me when new rayman

>>714633542
ohio ahh mf

They did cars, what genere will be the next?
Maybe a card game

>>714633593
FUCK YOU, OGRES!

I don't care