>want to get around Windows 11
>still want QoL that Windows offers
>easy to understand installer and general interface

Is this the best gaming OS?

Fuck no.

just use arch

>>714585818 (OP)
Fuck yes.

>>/g/
linux isn't gaming

>>714585818 (OP)
At this point just buy a console

>>714585970
Elaborate

>>714586081
why did Valve, a video game developer, make a forked, version of Linux, aka, SteamOS?

>>714586081
Games literally perform better on Linux you dolt

>>714586140
Because gaming on it was just that bad

>>714586117
Shit's a pain in the ass if you aren't tech savvy. Not worth the trouble.

>>714585818 (OP)
>want to get around Windows 11
why though

>>714586432
Being too retarded to use Linux is not an argument

>>714586383
Mind you SteamOS does not have the capability to print to a printer. Windows can do this out of the box.
Many features of a modern OS are turned off with SteamOS and many other Distrobutions(distros) of the Linux Kernal. This is why they run faster, they lack, features.

>>714585818 (OP)
It probably is.
I use endeavor OS, but it does require some OS tardwrangling.
Mint is meant to be a drop in replacement for windows/something that imitate windows when it was good so it's probably better.

>>714586519
This is the most retarded post I'll probably see of /v/ for the next few weeks

>>714586453
It's an even worse Windows 10 that copies OSX and will have AI shit shoved in it.

>>714586519
Well, why would you want to print on your handheld gaming console...? That being said, you could add printer support to SteamOS. It'll just stop being SteamOS.

>>714586025
being a linux noob and jumping straight into arch is the fastest way to burn yourself and never want to quit windows again.
just use mint or something with KDE for at least a year

>>714586519
This is not at all why Linux performs better. What an absolute retarded statement

>>714586676
I'm a Linux noob and I went straight into Arch with KDE. I literally can't even return to Windows anymore.

once i fully go amd i'll join the linux sisters.
people say that nvidia is a bitch to work with linux

>>714586637
If, for example, i was playing an old game, like grand theft auto 3, and I needed access to cheat codes, and the like.
I could see myslef finding a website that hosts the said codes, and alternate between the game and the website, or, I could venture a trip to my printer and have them on paper, thus saving a lot of time.

I could even so immerse myself in the game, a paper in real life and I could pretend it mimics a grocery list in game.

>>714586625
I use 11 and the only issue is that some things are hidding when you right click on a file
that's it, I don't even know where the ai is

>>714586789
It depends. Moving to Linux will always come with driver issues and that's the biggest problem with Nvidia. But you're still gonna have other driver issues for most of your other devices / hardware. You'll just have to learn to work through it

>>714586117
LTS is a meme for desktop, especially vidya.
you want rolling release cuz otherwise you're dealing with a fuckload of PPAs.

>>714586827
So install your printer driver and print it. Nothing is stopping you

>>714586789
Nvidia drivers are no worse on Linux than they were on Windows at this moment in time (assuming you're using some flavor of Arch which has current versions and not outdated crap). I use GTX 980 and 3060Ti though, not anything newer.

>>714586916
>fuck load of PPAs
Literally never happened to me. You get a few, what you need. Not a fuck load lmao

>>714586916
PPA?
Perception Pass Acceptance?
Priority Proportionate Access?
Probability Purported Analysis?
Personal Perpetual Annihilation?
Package Processing Arithmetic?
Psycho-analytical Protocal Alpha?

>>714586432
???
I run it, play games just fine, and I'm a complete retard who can't code and doesn't know shit about computers. You're genuinely a brain damaged pajeet.

>>714586827
>print cheat codes
this is how i know you are zoomer faggot. real old niggas actually wrote down that shit. fuck you and fuck your stupidity

>>714586432
I literally installed linux on a laptop last night.
The installer is faster and easier than Windows and only takes a total of 5 clicks.
Everything is done for you these days.
You can even run the OS off a USB and get used to it before committing to an install if you're worried.

Hard to install is a meme.

>>714586758
Same. Jumped headfirst into Archlinux and never looked back. Just sudo pacman -Syu every few days and you're good.

These fuckers over there are worried about being forced to buy an OS they don't want, while I'm over here using my new favorite OS to keep playing coomer h-games for free.

>>714587458
You might be literally me cuz that's what I was playing too.

>>714587385
Real old niggas had cheat code books.
You have your codes from magazines, your codes from friends, codes from a shitty cheat code book you found at the store that your parents wouldn't buy you, and random codes from cereals and whatnots.

>>714586827
Just install the printer drivers.
Then enjoy being able to print on many printers that are not supported by windows properly.. while being unable to print on printers that only work well on windows.
For that you get a RoG ally, so you get the full printer coverage with mobile game devices.

>download and install bazzite to give linux gaming a try
>fiddle with settings a little bit trying to solve problems, still stuck dealing with slow steam download speeds and games downloaded previously on external drives being unplayable.
>"whatever, I can go back to windows and try to fix this stuff as I go"
>trying to boot into windows runs a diagnostic and tells me windows is now unusable and it can't figure out why
I guess im stuck with linux now

>>714586519
>>714586916
>tell me you don't use linux without telling me you don't use linux

>>714587676
you can always just reinstall windows if you really want it. Unless you had important shit that wasn't backed up.

>>714585818 (OP)
whoever told you mint is a good replacement deserves a headshot

>>714586383
I suspect this is a weird edge case. I don't play my games at 20 fps on very low, and you shouldn't either.

>>714586432
mint is linux for retards who only ever use windows

>>714585818 (OP)
No. I updated my os and the sound stopped working/a few games stopped working. There is no viable alternative to windows.

>try to edit fstab and reboot
>get stuck on black screen on startup with "cannot open access to console, the root account is locked"
Did I just fuck myself

>>714586519
>does not have the capability to print to a printer
Okay boomer, stick with windows for your faxes and printing or whatever.

>>Linux doesnt support some piece of software I rely on
>stay on windows I guess
>>Im too retarded to use Linux
>>Im too retarded to learn things
>not my problem
>works on my machine
>user error
Every single Linux thread. dont you guys get tired of this?

>>714586383
>Ryzen Z2 Go, Very Low, 1200p, FSR3.1 balanced

>>714588330
Only if your drive is encrypted. You can just boot into any live Linux from USB, mount your drive and edit your fstab. On the other hand if it is encrypted, I don't know how you'd fix no root password.

>>714588438
Sounds like 99% of the catalogue to be honest.

>>714585818 (OP)
Most linux games back then were compiled against Ubuntu, and Mint is based on Ubuntu, so I guess it won't give you any problems.

I hate ntfs drives

>>714588438
>im too retarded to use linux
impossible, im a proper retard and i jumped to arch, tried 4 different DEs and window managers and file managers, bloated the fuck out of it, -Syu once every 2 months and i've yet to break something
if i can do it, /v/ can

also im king poorfag and i found out pirated games work flawlessly on lutris

>>714587442
Great. Enjoy solving issues on linux that windows has solved back in 1996.

>>714589729
like?

>>714589729
im probably lucky AF and i never encountered those issues

>Install mint to try it out
>sudo apt install steam
>try out a bunch of games
>Everything works out of the box
>Some games even run much better
>Try to look up other games on protondb
>Everything is either native, gold or plat
Last time i used Linux i was a teen trying out ubuntu and struggling to run GTA:VC on wine, shit has changed so much i couldn't believe it

>>714589524
ext4 is literally just NTFS with extra gaps between data sectors though. Lintards don't even know what their own standards do lol.

Unironically your average Joe that uses his laptop to browse the web, send a couple of emails and watch youtube would fare much better with any linux distro
It's gamers and people that work on a pc that are better off on windows

>>714589828
Like having a thumbnail viewer in your file picker.

>>714589945
Ubuntu is pretty bad, though. You'd probably have a hard time even today. Never used Mint, but you couldn't pay me to use Ubuntu.

>>714589729
Such as prohibiting the user from uninstalling edge, or forcing you to edit register keys to disable minimize on wiggle, or toggling spyware back on with each mandatory update?

>>714590137
i literally only had thumbnail problems with windows lmao
these days even xfce4 can show webp thumbnails

>>714590137
t. Never used Linux before.

>>714589828
printer not working
firewall fucking up
bluetooth issues
wi-fi network having half of the settings

>>714586383
That's not a blanket statement. Those handhelds are powered by APUs that probably has excellent driver support. I tried Nobara on my 2060S build and games ran similarly or worse than in Win10.

>>714590203
You're composing about the registry (fully documented), when most of your software is configured through shitty config files lmao.
>toggling spyware back on with each mandatory update?
I use LTSC. Not my problem.

>>714590137
Gnome fixed that like a year ago
You should update your list of grievances, like Wayland not supporting KB/M automation

>>714589828
like the fact that if i want a program i have to go and find out what the package is called in the repository, if there's one at all
you know, the thing 99% of pc users don't want to do because its stupid
oh wow someone made an unofficial version on the AUR (no GUI), enjoy compiling for 5 hours

>>714590137
solved in Gtk4, even if the app you're running hasn't updated it yet you can force it
Next

>>714589945
Ubuntu is still shit but not as shit as it was 10 years ago. Pretty much every distro that is downstream from Ubuntu is better than fucking Ubuntu so if you decide to install the "original" for whatever reason your just going to end up with a worse OS.

Install Fedora, I've had 0 problems with it since I managed to figure out why some codecs were dysfunctional on it and if you use the KDE distro you are going to get something that looks almost identical to W10 but with none of the bullshit.

>>714590483
what? im not a linuxtard but i was under the impression windows problems are difficult to resolve because documentation and help online are hazy at best no? meanwhile linuxtards have the wikis

>>714590701
>>714590559
firefox file picker still has no proper grid thumbnails on linux thougbeit

>>714585818 (OP)
No, Windows 11 is. Why are you afraid of it as a Windows 10 user? It's the exact same OS but with an arbitrary TPM requirement, stupid easy to turn off.

>>714590776
>hazy at best no
The registry has existed since Windows 3.1. It's one of the most documented parts of windows' configurations.

>>714586383
Not true for the vast majority of games, if even they even run on linux, at all.

>>714590960
>exact same

>>714590981
i guess, but every problem i have to solve on windows has nothing to do with the registry unfortunately

>>714591025
Yes, what's different about it? Rounded corners? Turn them off if that bothers you, takes 2 seconds.

>>714590559
>>714590701
>>714590238
Lol. Let's see a screenshot of your file picker you when try to upload an image to this thread.

>>714591059
If the registry can't do it, group policy probably can.

>>714590960
My only experience with Windows 11 was it having a shit audio driver that didn't worked right and there was no way to fix it, so i rolled the machine back to Windows 10.

>>714591137
Did you update your audio driver or just try to use the one it had on 10? Windows hasn't had a major change to audio since Vista.

>>714591108
>ESL
Good morning saar

>>714590628
You don't need to get a program from repository if you don't want to get it from there. However, since you're talking about AUR, I'm gonna assume Arch and pacman -sS whatever will find packages containing the string whatever in description or name and I've never had problems finding a package when I know approximately what I'm actually trying to find.

>>714591108

>>714591313
This is the file picker on gtk4, but the qT one is absolute garbage

>>714591198
I tried upgrading the audio driver, tried proprietary drivers and all that and the problem just didn't got away.

>>714591396
This is KDE, so it's QT.

>>714591108
lol, lmao even.

>>714590878
Cause Firefox uses Gtk3, i literally told you how to fix it in my post
about:config, modify widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker to force it to use the KDE file picker

>>714591396
That is clearly Qt, are you blind?

>>714585818 (OP)
As long as there's no open source Nvidia drivers, Linux won't catch on for most gamers.

>>714591973
https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules

>>714588438
>Linux doesnt support some piece of software I rely on
I use the "Add Game" feature in Steam to add Windows executables and tell it to run with proton lmao

>>714590960
It's not the same pajeet

>>714592081
I just use Bottles, it keeps my steam library clean and it sandboxes whatever I boot in it.

>>714591576
>>714591869
>>714591743
I use xfce and the file picker is still the old one, how do i fix?

>>714592081
I'm constantly surprised on how much just runs on wine without any problem.
Of course it do fail from time to time, catastrophically even, but it's on a point where the workflow is 1) try running on Wine, 2) if it fails look for an alternative.
and 2 only happens 10% of the time.

>>714591973
>>714591973
>>714592079
this is how every single linux thread goes on here holy shit
some anon that is too afraid to give linux a chance (like its some esoteric h4xor stuff) make up some issues or missing stuff and is immediately proven wrong
at this point it has to be windows shill no? or maybe users that think "try linux" is a personal attack to them because they use windows

>>714592079
But everyone on /v/ and Indian Linux guy told me Nvidia was bad on Linux. Guess it's worth a shot afterall.

>>714585818 (OP)
Just get it and find out stop asking us fuck

>>714592463
Xfce is gtk not qt, I don't know if it's compatible with new gtk versions or how it works. It's probably using some old version of gtk, if you have problems with thumbs.

I will move over to linux as soon as i buy parts for my new pc and won't ever bother with shitdows but first i need money. 4 more months.

>>714585818 (OP)
Good to dip your toes into but for me, it's Arch; the best OS

>>714591743
nothing changed, it was like this already because i had already tried
also, its not true that xfce with thunar shows all kinds of thumbnails on normal folders

>>714592475
Yeah, it's come a long way.
I started with linux distros in 2011 when my computer engineering courses wanted me to use Ubuntu. I used to be big into fucking around with it, but nowadays, I'm very happy that it's stable out of the box and I don't have to spend time configuring Wine anymore.

Been on the verge of making the jump for a few months now and I guess my question is Arch or Bazzite?

>>714593026
Not gonna lie I lean towards Bazzite just because of Bazz in the name.

Just install windows you fucking tranny faggot

>>714592986
File picker is different from file manager, and xfce probably has outdated gtk. I can say for sure even gtk file picker has thumbs even if it is shit compared to KDE. I tried it in deluge.

>>714592768
The modern drivers are still not perfect, they are functional but you still get slightly less performance in some titles vs windows and some functionality can be flaky but as long as your not using 5000 series cards you should be fine.

>>714593258
way too heavy for my shit laptop
do you still have to use an email to use windows or have they changed it?

>>714593026
I'm holding out for ReactOS

>>714593258
Just take HRT if you're this fucking obsessed

>>714593258
I would it if still was Windows 7, but it's not so linux it is.

>>714592662
I don't think all of it's made up, people will try Linux because who doesn't want to ditch Windows, but then they run into a real issue and then believe that issue never gets fixed (and let's be real, there are 20+ year old bugs in things like Firefox). But I'm extremely surprised at just how much Valve has advanced gaming, everything I've tried personally just works.

>load up a game
>15fps maximum when on windows I get 144

>>714593258
>he said while simping for the company that supports tranny faggots

>>714593660
>there are 20+ year old bugs in things like Firefox
That is why I stopped using it even before I even switched to Linux and with the direction the org is taking everyone should just jump ship or you'll just end up feeding our AI overlords with data

>>714593767
Sounds like an Nvidia problem.

>>714593454
>do you still have to use an email to use windows?
Huh?

>>714593660
I actually encountered an issue that made me so mad I wanted to return to windows - my onboard sound outputs were completely fucked. I spent so many hours trying to troubleshoot for nothing, but once I cooled down I just bought a dac which in had been wanting for a while to have a volume knob again and bypassed the problem. Turns out it was actually fixed at some point. My onboard audio works now, not that I'd ever use it.

>>714593858
Not him, but what do people use as a browser if not Firefox?

>>714594080
edge

>>714594080
I use Vivaldi.

>>714585818 (OP)
once i get around he hurdles of mint, whats a good intermediate step above the os to slowly get a better grasp at loonix?

>>714594018
They've removed the ability to create local accounts on install as a baseline, you have to modify the installer to get get rid of having to make or use a M$ account to get through the install process.

>>714594080
I've used Brave for something like 8 years now.
The fact that it tells youtube ads to fuck off by default, before adding even more adblocking is a blessing I can't live without at this point.

>>714594197
Just install arch.. or if you're like 9 years old you can install endeavour.

>>714590394
Sounds like the usual windows experience

>>714594080
I use Brave on my Lappy and I've been playing around with Zen on my desktop (because it looks sexy as fuck and fits perfectly with base KDE)

debian niggas

>>714585818 (OP)
>using mint after the hack
lamo

>>714594491
im not laptop-as-a-server running in my room for pi-hole and nextcloud sorry grandpa

>>714594369
ok, another rule;
whats a good step above mint that wont require me to ask questions in some forum just to run some programs? lots of windows software out there will crash, but i really have no interest troubleshooting that shit through some kind of tech support.

>>714594049
I remember constantly troubleshooting my audio on Debian in the mid-2010's. I moved on to other distros, but yeah, it's definitely the kind of fundamental inconvenience that kept people away.

>>714593913
>OS doesn't work with like 75% of video cards in the entire world
skill issue I guess.

>>714594080
Brave and Zen.

>>714594590
Fedora although I wouldn't really call it a "step above" in difficulty, it's more cutting edge than Mint though so you get rid of a lot of issues that are related to old drivers but the Red Hat devs have a massive hard on for open source and not paying for anything so getting DRM based codecs to work on Fedora is a bit of a pain.

just do mint ----> endeavourOS ----> Arch

>>714585818 (OP)
>>want to get around Windows 11
Windows 10 LTSC

>>714594590
You don't need to ask questions on forum cuz literally everything that is common is documented on arch wiki. Even something as esoteric as my motherboard thermal sensor quirk and how to make it work was documented. If you're posting on arch forums, you have a very serious issue or you're mouth breather levels of illiterate.

>>714593913
>Nvidia makes up 92% of the DGPU market
>Linux is installed on only 4.31% of desktops worldwide
Sounds more like a Linux problem.

>>714585818 (OP)
It's one of the more user-friendly Linux distributions for sure, which is why I use it (I'm lazy), but I don't know that it has a single advantage over other distributions for GAMING specifically. I mean, sure, games work on it, but it's not as if it's optimized for gaming.

What nobody here will tell you is that your Linux mileage will HEAVILY rely on your hardware. If you run Intel/Nvidia stuff, you'll get fucked in the ass with a shit ton of problems. Technically not Linux fault for Nvidia not making proper drivers for it, but still an awful experience. I've had multimonitor support issues, flickering issues, weird animation lags and other general annoyances. Nevermind that some peripherals also use generic drivers like my Razer mouse.

Tried Bazzite and Mint and both have issues that are piling onto one another to still put me off. Next PC I'll buy will be AMD only which will alleviate pretty much all issues I'm having, but being this picky about hardware is fucking annoying.

>>714595387
AMD > Nvidia

>>714586519
>Mind you SteamOS does not have the capability to print to a printer.
That's because it's only for handheld gaming PCs.
>Windows can do this out of the box.
So can Linux Mint.
>Distrobutions(distros)
Wow, thanks for the clarification. You sure are an expert in GNU/Linux.
>they lack, features.
William Shatner, is that you?

>>714595228
hmm, and the installation process.. i heard there's a bootable media version of it now but whats the bemefit of ricing your own setup of arch that makes it better?

>>714595589
>What nobody here will tell you is that your Linux mileage will HEAVILY rely on your hardware.
That's why I say "works on MY machine".
Having the wrong hardware for Linux is a skill issue btw

>>714595228
chatgpt has made linux retard proof

>use Linux since 2006
>still use Ubuntu with Gnome
Feels good.

>buy a new laptop/pc with windows prebuilt into it
>runs fine. bloatware out of the ass, but it runs fine
>decide one day, fuck it. we linux now
>install
>open the computer
>try to install the drivers because some shit isn't working correctly
>realise your pc was built ONLY for windows; none of the drivers were designed with linux in mind
>cry yoursleep to sleep realising you wasted a months wages on a pc that doesnt even have linux compaitble sofwate/drivers

many such cases!

>>714595589
>If you run Intel/Nvidia stuff
im literally on an ass optimus configuration
shit intel and 940m geforce and i have literally zero problems
im even been playing warframe and d3

>>714588438
>>>Im too retarded
>>not my problem
Yes, that is the correct response.

>>714595589
I've never had any Intel specific problems on Linux that didn't also exist on Windows but yeah, Nvidia can be a complete dice roll but as long as your are using hardware between 1000-4000 series you should be fine with the open source drivers. Anything older and newer will have problems because Nvidia has been a dick about Linux support up until AI became their main moneymaker and the open source drivers will always be a few months behind the official windows drivers in terms of support.

after windows 10 i switched to linux so i hadn't touched a w11 computer in a couple of years
last week i had to put hand to some colleagues' laptops that were running w11, and i was shocked by the amount of ads i saw in them right there on the desktop, search bar and menu
also, what the fuck are the IT guys at my work doing if the average user can turn those ads back on?

>>714596016
Which is funny, again, because old-ass hardware (pre RTX cards) have almost better drivers than any halfway recent card.

>>714596153
Heres to hoping. I did enjoy Bazzite quite a bit, but there are definitive issues with more current Nvidia cards. Hence why I'm going with all AMD with my next hardware refresh. I'm hoping that SteamOS will eventually stop being a pure handheld OS and that they branch out to Desktops. Having a real company developing a distro specifically for gaming would be a major boon for everyone involved.

>>714586081
>>714593258
>a random stranger isn't having the most optimal and streamlined gaming experience? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
calm down, spaz

>>714596336
>user turning ads back on
Unless they're a professional boot-licker, it's probably Microsoft that turned them back on.

>>714595768
If you really need your hand held by an automated installer, just use endeavour. The reason arch is good, is because you know your setup. You know what you installed, you know what settings you had to change to make the system suitable for yourself, etc. Knowing what you have makes any future troubleshooting easier.

But from a practical "what you have at the end of installation" perspective endeavour (or other arch forks) end up very similar.

>>714586117
>poor support relative to Ubuntu
>longer waits for important updates
>much more tweaking and fixing it yourself
>much less available to reference for said tweaks- you often have to cobble together a solution from multiple years-old obscure posts

But let me guess it being negligibly lightweight by comparison because it came gutted of functionality you need to manually add back then hope you installed correctly and didn't cause yourself to need further research to bugsmash makes it worth it.

Telling someone to use Mint of Ubuntu is telling them to use Linux in the way they don't want to- one that grows increasingly involved and can consume hours of time to fix especially for someone new to terminal use.

Can you use mint to dual output to a tube TV? I've got this little zenith in my shed I'm getting no use out of.

>>714596697
Yes you can, as long you get an adapter for that.
Mine can't do 240p so the picture is blurrier than something like an snes, but it can do it.

>>714585818 (OP)
Just use Debian dude

>>714585818 (OP)
Sadly, windows still have more tools for performance improvement. I can't even control the fans of my nvidia PC GPU and I get less battery life in my dGPU nvidia laptop

>>714586453
From Windows 10 forward the illusion of choice grew alongside the illusion of privacy. You cannot turn off your own firewall, you are merely given the illusion of being able to. Removing Windows Firewall or Defender since 10 has resulted in a BSOD. To stick with Windows is to take an ever-increasing hit to your computer power while being considered too stupid by the OS manufacturer to be trusted with choice. I consider this scumfuckery to have started when a Windows 7 update pushed 10 onto people who click the big red X that every other time indicates "Fuck off I'm not interested" because on that day Microcock decided to make the big red X mean "ruin my files and update"

>>714592463
I do too and the solution I found was to install a different file manager and use >>714591743

>>714585818 (OP)
Not Mint. If you're gay ming, you're more likely to benefit from rolling release bleeding edge shit.
But that's besides the point. Most people use nvidia. Nvidia doesn't work all that amazingly on linux. Over there, they're still trying to get display gimmicks to work. The only way you can have working HDR for instance, is through Wayland, and Wayland is a broken shit.

>>714595596
In your personal opinion, but clearly 92% of DGPU users don't agree.

>>714586916
>a fuckload of PPAs.
What the hell for? Nobody adds a hundred PPAs for extra packages anymore; they just use Flatpak for things that aren't in their distro's official repo. Update your FUD script, my dude.
I have exactly one additional source in Mint's package manager: the DRD Team Debian repo for GZDoom (which I don't even need anymore because I can easily just compile GZDoom myself now that I've already done it for Raze which has nearly identical build steps).

how can you ever hope normal people could ever switch to linux when netflix and prime don't even let you watch in 1080p?
>inb4 just pirate everything
yes i now, but normal users need streaming
no streaming, no further than 4% share

What are the advantages of using Arch over Fedora?

Arch is best overall and it's what Valve is developing on now. The hard part is knowing what packages you want.

>>714597150
>Wayland is a broken shit.
Nope, it has come extremely far just the last year alone. Volvo really managed to whip the Linux autists into shape.

>>714597141
something other than thunar on xfce? i thought it was optimized to work well together? what do you use?

>>714585818 (OP)
no, but for casuals/new linux users it is a god tier OS.
EndeavourOS with KDE is on the same level if not better imo

if there is one thing windows does better than linux it is its plethora of software that controls the fans. any competitors on linux?

>>714597276
Volvo doesn't use wayland on KDE by default on SteamOS for a reason.
And they could. That'd enable HDR to work outside the gamescope session.

>>714586383
I swear to God, if it's AyyMD GPU I'm removing my Linux SSD

>>714597163
92% of people are idiots that buy something because jews said it was good

>>714597060
In Microsofts defense, the average Boomer retard needed to be forced to update their PC constantly because they would otherwise ignore updating their drivers or other security features. You saw what happens with Wannacry if you let dumbfuck retards go on for far too long without security updates or other essential driver support. Win11 isn't terrible for superusers, but you can definitely tinker with it as well.

The real issue with MS is that they NEVER cleaned up their old menus. Like if you want to edit your network adapter settings, you're still being thrown into the control panel and into the same menu that hasn't visually changed since 98.

>>714597471
It's a PC handheld, so of course it's AMD

>>714597227
Use the app on your tv lol

Is it feasible to game on linux mint with an nvidia gpu? I have an AMD CPU

>having to do all this shit because your KDE BS sucks because you should've downloaded the other troon distro instead
>On Windows you just click play and... Play
Unless you somehow make the ultimate Linux distro then it will never be popular
Why have different display shit? X11? Wayland? Can't you fuckers just have 1?
Then flatpaks snaps deb packages, Jesus Christ

>>714597845
Yes if you have a maxwell or newer gpu

I purchased windows 10 years ago and lost the key or whatever. How do I get rid of this thingy?

>>714592463
>>714591743
>>714592986
>>714597326
I cope and just drag and drop whatever onto the Browse... button. Shift clicks on Browse... removes it btw.

https://files.catbox.moe/lh695f.webm

>>714597380
LACT and CoreCtrl are two Linux programs for that. I don't know how they compare to the ones for Windows, because last time I used Windows for gaming, I would just let my GPU fan run its default behavior and it was fine, because this was before I got a GPU that defaults to "dude I'll just leave the fan at 0 RPM until I hit 59°C and then run the fan for 1 second every 10 seconds lmao" because, uh, energy savings I guess? (And maybe that's fine but seeing the temperature graph looking like a roller coaster stresses me out so I just tell the fan to stay on when I'm running a graphically demanding game. Oh no, my energy bill went up slightly, oh no.)

>>714598027
Reboot, it only appears after 4 hours of uptime

>>714585818 (OP)
Windows LTSC. Literally up to date Windows 7.

>>714598027
it's a badge of honor

>>714598027
Just use MAS

>>714597845
It's not that you cannot do it.
It's that you won't get the same performance, wayland will be more buggy (still is, hell I keep getting artifacts all the time on latest plasma/drivers on cachyOS) and some tools like gamescope will shit the bed.
Last week if I'm not mistaken they did figure out how to get rid of some performance bottleneck on raytraced games, but overall shit remains unstable and not smooth. The only thing I would say Nvidia on linux has over AMD is that it has a legitimate settings panel on X11, and that you can actually use HDMI 2.1 without losing working VRR (to a degree, as I tested this with my 360hz monitor, and to get it working well I have to drop it to 240hz anyways, but that's also on Plasma Wayland).

>>714597163

>>714598027
How have you not heard of Microsoft Activation Scripts/MAS? You can pirate Office, all Windows versions (like Pro etc) for free.

>>714588438
jannies should make it an auto sage if OP ever mentions troonix for fuck sake
not like the average people will ever move to it.
>but the 3-5+ fps gain
Not worth the trouble and time I have to invest to learn to tinker the piece of shit OS if shit ever gets broken because it's troonix duh and not to mention troonix lacks pretty much all of the QoL from Windows

>>714597508
>da jooz
Nah, I'm okay with paying a premium for stable hardware. I've never had driver timeouts on my Nvidia GPUs, whereas the one AMD GPU I had kept crashing while playing Silent Hill 2.

Never again.

Did a clean boot of Windows 11 yesterday and I stalled all my shit in minutes
But I can't be bothered to install my shit in my Linux drive
Linux is horrible

>>714598347
>using MSOffice
>not saying fuck it and deciding to learn LibreOffice instead

>>714598491
>average people
average people demographic shifts and I've seen more young people get into Linux and it's mostly boom booms stuck in their bald middle aged steve ballmer lookin ass ways refusing to use anything other than Windows™

>>714598839
But MAS makes it just as free, works and you won't have to worry about compatibility in a professional environment. But I forgot that /v/ doesn't have a job anyway.

>>714598262
Second this. I started on linux with the trusty 1070 before I upgraded to a newer AMD card, and while generally everything worked, it was fucking amazing how so many of those little niggling problems just went away and suddenly it wasn't "good, but a bit janky" anymore, it just werks.

>>714598951
is there a good tutorial to get the most of LO anyway? always found it a janky pain in the ass desu. would gladly switch if they just fixed the cod in that piece of shit .

>>714593258
>Microshaft places a pride flag on your desktop that you can't delete
Also enjoy letting your personal information to be harvested and handled by street shitting monkeys.

I've had the same Debian installed for seven years now and admittedly there were sometimes problems. But even as a newbie I could fix them. One time after updating drivers by getting them from Nvidia's site they were probably incompatible with the kernel version or something. Therefore no init file was generated as an updated version. But it could all be fixed by just googling shit and learning. You only need a couple of commands to be comfortable in nothing but the terminal and fix shit because the error messages are very exact and verbose. Instead of the typical rage inducing "oops, something went wrong :(" that big corporations use to infantilize their users.

Right now I got like driver version 570 in my 4070 TiSu. My distro of choice is slow in updating their packages but whatever because stuff just works and it stays out of your way.

>>714598904
Are you serious? Linux just lost 0.12% and it's below 3%
>But non gamers use it
I think all young people with a PC have Steam installed
Keep thinking that the Year of Linux is coming

>>714599291
Use debian sid

>>714599170
it's a shame I did the opposite because of stupid shit I never ended up doing and now I just use a 4070S.
I considered getting a 9070xt, but how can I justify this jump even when really the only "demanding" games I've been playing have been E33 and Stellar Blade.

>>714599425
Biggest mistake ever, no thanks I'll stay on stable

>>714586453
Too much free time is why.

>>714599329
>Linux just lost 0.12%
Oh no, you mean it's dropped to the second-highest percentage ever recorded?? Oh noooo
>and it's below 3%
Always was. Go ahead and gloat about that but don't imply it's trending downwards when it's not.

>>714599291
>>Microshaft places a pride flag on your desktop that you can't delete
Saar, here's how to remove the stupid flag without breaking your distro for simply installing Steam

Nobara KDE is the best Linux distro for gaming if you just came from Windows. Has tons of shit preinstalled

>>714599425
I don't want to be a testing guinea pig, so stable for me it is.

>>714598784
Nvidia drivers are terrible. Flickering, poor HDMI TV support, crashing on old games, makes older cards work worse over time.

Last Nvidia I had was a 680. Will never go back. Have had zero problems with my 6900XT.

Its still linux if you dont write your own code its still nearly unsable. Having to turn your SSD/HD on each boot is annoying if you dont have a cs degree and good luck getting your bluetooths to work. The few games I tried on it ran like ass anyways.
Windows doesnt get enough credit. You want to free yourself from 80 tasks but they keep your pc fast. Linux does fuck all nothing.
>t. fell for mint tricks
Its a cute time waster but will only ever be a waste of time without a cs degree.

>>714600340
Wtf are you even talking about?

>>714600447
The time he tried linux but forgot to disable the compositor.

reminder if you blindly tar and chmod +x files you download from the internet without looking at them you are just as bad as a windows fag and should honestly just go back

>>714600447
stfu you snake oil salesman, linux faggot.

I'd rather wait until SteamOs is good enough on desktop before installing Linux for vidya.

>>714599867
It doesn't have fan control software or temp readings, and the Bluetooth manager is a joke.
>>714600280
I'm happy for you, but while Nvidia drivers remain as poorly implemented in Linux as they are now, Windows will remain the OS of choice for stress-free gaming.

>>714585818 (OP)
Arch is the best
but I still use an Ubuntu flavor with minimal installation because 6 month system updates are better for my productivity-related computing needs

>>714600873
>He thinks SteamOS will fix everything
Just install Arch with Steam, there, your own SteamOS
SteamOS won't fix shit outside of the Deck.
Unless they go directly to Nvidia and make them special drivers and they fix all the display issues that each x11 and Wayland have

>>714585818 (OP)
There is no best gaming OS anon. Only the one that works for (You). This is what Linux shills have been trying to tell your for decades. It's your PC, you choose the OS not the other way around.

why do I never see anyone shilling Debian or openSUSE

>>714599550
>>714600171
backported kernel and mesa, then you're set. couldn't be much easier in between major updates.

Im a retard but I dont want to start with Mint or Ubuntu because nobody is helpful and everyone dogpiles on you for using those, what should I start with

>>714601334
I finally got around to trying OpenSUSE last month. initially seemed okay, like a more stable Arch. then I went to edit a config file and the system and found that I couldn't access anything in the file system with elevated privileges. immediately went back to Xubuntu.

nvidia gpu work well on linux???

>>714601581
Ubuntu Cinnamon 25.04

SteamOS is "Linux" best and possibly only chance to overtake any percent from Windows. And even then, it's still not a native OS for like 100% of all PC games. Ain't nobody gonna go to protondb and look up "twatmaster666's platinum command prompt guide" for EVERY fucking game.

Btw, that shit isn't "platinum" at all. Platinum would mean it works if you just click play exactly like on Windows. The more shit I have to type into a command prompt to make a game work "flawless" just like it does on Windows, automatically makes me go "hang on, why don't I just stick with Windows instead?"
Doomed to fail, unless Gabe is secretly going around to major devs and publishers and making them work on Linux compatibility for new AND old games.
This is just how it is.
Convenience is king.
Noa is cute.

>>714601334
because this is a gaming board and functioning plug&play is the king
we need our shit to work - all of it
not some of it, sometimes

reinvent this fucking wheel
no thank you!

>game occasionally crashes, there's no sound in 20% of the levels, you need to watch cinematics on youtube, but if you can get past all of that it works out of the box... after dicking around with prefixes for 2 hours to get the damn thing to get past the start menu
>protondb rating: gold

>>714601334
Because it just works

>>714601742
>Btw, that shit isn't "platinum" at all.
The stated definition of "platinum" is that it works perfectly WITHOUT any of that tinkering, but I won't defend ProtonDB's broken rating system that causes games to be rated incorrectly.
In any case,
>EVERY fucking game
Not even close.
Disregarding ProtonDB (because, as a site built on user-generated reports, it automatically and fundamentally sucks ass, and that's without even starting to criticize the rating algorithm), most of my games just work by clicking the "play" button.

>>714601334
>opensussy
but for real though, should I just try out Pop!_OS? what the fuck do I do. I have heard of people bricking their PCs getting shit to work

Is debian still the best for lts/low update and stability?

>easy to use
>easy driver support
>ubuntu
>windows style desktop enviroment
name a better intro distro

>>714602213
>what the fuck do I do
make a live USB of some distro you want to try and then boot from that USB drive. dick around there until you feel comfortable using your main drive for an instead.

still waiting for the anon to deliver the alternative to thunar on my xfce4 since i have the gtk3 file picker still

>>714602425
AmogOS has been my daily driver for a while now.

>try out bazzite
>steam download speeds are atrociously slow
>try the fixes
>it increases my speed a tiny amount
>look online further
>see some people saying that steam downloads in general are just slow on linux and it needs to be fixed
>mfw
I'm sorry, I can't handle getting like 40 mbps on steam. I was getting like over a gig per second when I was using windows.

>>714602254
Debian was normally what you went to if you didn't care to deal with configuring linux, shit just worked even in the 90s.
Adversely, its also boring and will use packages that haven't been updated in 10-20 years as long as they still work.

>>714602563
*for an install

>>714602254
The only issue I had over years was recently when some stable kernel update broke my VMs but I just temporarily used an earlier kernel and did a update again few weeks later and it was fixed. I ran unstable/sid for a bit too but after that xz-utils I said fuck that shit and went back to stable.

Impressive. Very nice.
Let's see it run photoshop.

>>714585818 (OP)
>dual boot linux mint
>don't use it for a couple of months
>come back to it, there's an update
>now everything is corrupted

>>714602119
>official ProtonDB definition of Gold: "Runs perfectly after tweaks."
>how the ProtonDB rating algorithm decides a Gold rating in practice: "It just works for most users but some reported problems; I guess I'll take an average :^)"
The site's rating system is busted is busted and always has been. It will never ever be fixed. There's no point in looking at the overall rating for any given game, nor any of the stats. The only correct way to use the site is to look up a game you want to play, read the recent reports and assess whether the negative ones are just Nvidia problems, and maybe look for useful launch options if applicable.

>>714602563
why do all that when you can just use a fucking VM

>>714602609
My brother convinced me to switch to arch a while back and I've missed so many deadlines because updates kept breaking shit.

>>714602425
>steamOS
>easy to use
>based on Arch
>based on Gaben
>works with games
best intro distro unless you want it in desktop form. Gaben if you're here... I'm waiting

>>714602254
Also to cont, debian is community ran, so if you have a problem and you can't fix it yourself it will never be fixed until someone else who can work on it has the same problem.

So the best one is arch linux then (ignoring the chance of going insane).

>>714602816
You can just try debian or really most linux distros on a vm if you want to check before committing to it. A lot of them were made to get the job done in horrible conditions.

>>714602641
Do I have to become one of the lgbt to use it?

what DE should i use if i need every bit of ram i can spare?

>>714602745
because it's a VM, retard? why would you hamstring yourself on system resources and risk getting an even worse experience when using a flash drive is just as easy?

>>714602745
Because setting up a VM is literally harder than booting to the USB stick that you'll be using to install the thing when you decide to use it anyway.
>>714602213
>I have heard of people bricking their PCs getting shit to work
Just don't LARP as a power user and you'll be fine.

>>714603036
PuppyOS

>>714602119
Users on this site seem completely retarded when it comes to these ratings.
>>714602212
BUT if it's true that it's a bullshit site that should be disregarded, *responsible Linuxfolks* need to take it down violently whenever it is brought up because it's confusing to newcomers that you're trying to appeal to.

Also, with all due respect, nigger, there's so many of these "Linux civil wars" going on constantly that I just absolutely find tiresome at best. You're all Linux to me but apparently there's so many different fucking Linuxes out there and they're all amazing and they're all terrible and fuck you I'll stick with Windows instead because it knows what it is and it fucking works.

>>714603195
Desktop Environment, not distro

>Install EndeavourOS to try out
>A whole lot actually works out the box and installing things isn't really a hassle
>Still have to fiddle with some very basic things like getting Japanese IME working
>Microphone quality is just worse without any obvious method of solving it
>Still runs well and is clearly faster than Windows
It made me realize that I could permanently switch when I'm left with no other option but the comfort of everything just werking on Windows is hard to drop. I just installed Windows 10 LTSC instead and will wait 7 extra years.

>>714585818 (OP)
>GAMING
no
but its is a nice workable OS that's just fine for most games without any fiddling around

Go for Arch or some other bleeding edge distro if you want modern drivers. Mint is for edging yourself into the pool to get used to things, or installing on your grandma's PC so it stops nagging her.

>>714602958
Nah I'm a straight white male.

>>714603036
LXDE/LXQT or what I do is Debian NetInstall and then sudo apt install lightdm, xorg, openbox, mousepad, lxterminal, pcmanfm, tint2, chromium, firefox-esr, xcompmgr, pavucontrol, pasystray, policykit-1-gnome, .... manually.

You may need some more packages or less and it consumes about 200-300MB of RAM. Not using lightdm you can manually type startx for example.

lightdm = login manager at boot
xorg = x window / graphics but you still need actual GPU graphics drivers but by default the open-source one is used
openbox = window manager (shortcuts, titlebar customizing is what you'll notice mostly)
mousepad = lightweight notepad alternative
lxterminal = lightweight terminal emulator
pcmanfm = lightweight file explorer
tint2 = lightweight taskbar
xcompmgr = "lightweight" effects for windows like transparency and blur
pavucontrol = audio controls
pasystray = tray in taskbar for audio
policykit-.... = makes it so whenever you need sudo in a program it pops up password asking for authentication

>>714603851
>>714603415
~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
pcmanfm --desktop &
runs a Desktop Environment with desktop icons.

>>714602425
Anything else that actually has KDE 6 on it, because that's a massive improvement.

>>714603851
you are a transgender

>>714603231
>take it down violently whenever it is brought up because it's confusing to newcomers that you're trying to appeal to.
I do complain about it every time it's brought up, but I also don't give enough of a fuck about newcomers to do anything "violently" for the sake of appealing to them. It's a pet peeve of mine but beyond that it's not a big deal. Most Linux users won't give up on ProtonDB because it still presents compatibility as better than people with outdated notions of Linux would expect, i.e., it's good PR, perhaps unfairly so on average but I've also seen several games (mostly obscure ones with few reports) rated far lower than they should be (due to uselessly old reports, outright wrong information e.g. bugs that aren't Linux issues, etc.). Sorry that the """Linux community""" isn't a hivemind.
>Also, with all due respect, nigger, there's so many of these "Linux civil wars" going on constantly that I just
Oh, wow, I don't care about this. I think I responded to the only part of your post that matters to me so I'll just stop reading there. Don't bother with any "NOOO YOU HAVE TO DEBATE ME"-type replies because I'm gonna go play a video game.

>>714585818 (OP)
Personally I want Steam OS to become good enough that I can use it for general office and desktop work.

>>714603963
>>714603851
just give a DE name for fucks sake

how do i install steamos does it compatible with nvidia gpus?

>>714604234
l2read
>>714603851
>LXDE/LXQT or what I do

>>714594568
elaborate (you wont)

>>714594568
>>714604547
retard is referencing a hack that happened 9 years ago.
"On February 20, 2016, the Linux Mint website was breached by unknown hackers who briefly replaced download links for a version of Linux Mint with a modified version containing malware. The hackers also breached the database of the website's user forum.[22][23] Linux Mint immediately took its server offline and implemented enhanced security configurations for their website and forum."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint#Since_2014

>>714601717
You lose 20%-30% performance on DX12 games at this time until Nvidia fixes that. Outside of that yes it should work on most rolling distros (Arch) or Bazzite since they keep proprietary drivers up to date.

>>714585818 (OP)
In 2025? Not really. For gaymers, there's really no beating Bazzite with KDE right now. It literally just works out of the box with everything you could possibly want, and it's extremely retard proof. KDE is great too.
Best distro for dummies by far. Even for non dummies too.

>>714585818 (OP)
>4chan starts a linux thread
>endless kvetching about wangblows and applel because businesses and retards respectively are basically pidgeonholed into using them
>endless shitflinging and cock-measuring contests over which DE is the least absolute dogshit for a standard computer user
>nothing is accomplished
>no one who wants to get into linux actually knows any better about it
>thread dies

>4chan starts a linux thread

>>714602607
>Complaining about 40 Mb
Lad, that's damn good. I've had 3rd world Internet for 2 months because the 2 ISPs in my area are having a turf war over laying fiber (one hired a pack of Mexicans who keep "accidentally" cutting every fucking line the other ISP has with a shovel while prepping the area).
It's gotten so bad that said 2nd ISP has been turning over contracts to the state government.. Who then promptly don't do their job until you throw a fit.

>>714604857
>recommending a downstream of a downstream

>>714604861
>reading a 4chan thread in hopes of gaining knowledge of a topic
lmao

>>714604857
>retard proof
Except for one gigantic caveat that everyone always forget.
Every retard uses Nvidia, lol.

When the fuck Valve is going to release Steam OS for desktops?

>>714605070
>thread ends up actually being full of useful tips, tricks and good knowledge with great banter
>404's.
many such cases.

>>714605070
Maybe on modern /g/ I'd expect this kind of response since it's all shitflinging subhumans with work visas.

>>714605163
The iso its out but for AMD users

>>714605285

>>714592081
I honestly stopped using the software that doesn't have a linux version. What are those things even, outside of a very specific niche that somehow didn't find linux inthusiasts to make an open version of a software?

>>714585818 (OP)
Mint is trash. You won't be able to game on Linux without a Wayland distribution. Just install SteamOS you retarded nigger or Bazzite. It is absurdly easy to game on Linux. You just click the button to emulate windows in Steam (I think it just got enabled by default with the most recent update).

>>714605528
X11 is king. KYS waylandshill

>>714603851
Here's screenshot of how it looks, pretty basic.

>>714605638
X11 has extreme performance issues with directdraw, i.e. literally all 3D accelerated applications you inbred hebrew.

>>714586383
>microsoft shills seething replies

>>714605724
Atleast it isn't early access. You'll need 30 more years for Wayland to be any good.

I had mint, moved to EndeavorOS because muh bleeding edge. Works ok but being arch based means you have occasional arch problems like manual interventions and things not working because you are missing some odd package. Mint just werked for the most part.
I've been eyeing fedora.

>>714605894
>X11 is shit and it's released
that's grim bruh

>>714605528
>You won't be able to game on Linux without a Wayland distribution
you really think people would just go on the internet and tell lies?!

The "Linux community" needs to fuck off back to /g/ or just fucking kill themselves already.

>>714585818 (OP)
what's the point if look just like windows

>>714585818 (OP)
Just use Bazzite like everyone else is doing, basically SteamOS ported to the desktop.

>>714606082
it relates to video games as much as all the gooner threads anymore. blame yourself or mods.
**jumps chocobo into the lake**

>>714606215
A good portion of this thread appears to not be using Bazzite, Anon.

>>714605959
Not as grim as development hell.

>>714606082
There is no linux community. It's a fractured war map of a bunch of DEs/OSs that all fight each other instead of M$, applel or njudea

>>714586432
my senior parents use linux on their shitty old computers, it all just works and isn't constantly trying to trick them in to agreeing to activate a bunch of spyware and it doesn't force them to make a bunch of accounts with personal information to be sold and/or leaked just to do basic things

>>714606142
that it isn't Spyware 10 or 11 under the hood

>>714606282
Why would we fight M$, applel or Njudea. They don't affect us, aside from NVIDIA but we have alternatives. You choose linux so that you get away from that bullshit not to engage with it from the other side.

>Replying to yourself this hard

>>714606280
>development hell
You just described the entire meta-progression for Linux/GNU development since the millenium rolled over.

I'm using it right now, though the debian edition is better.

All my gaymes just werk on steam and I back them up on heroic using goldbergemu on a seperate 2TB SSD

personally i was fine with windows until the debloat scripts like privatezilla stopped working properly
when it became a constant tug of war with microsoft only because i wanted to use a machine without ads, AI and match3 games i said enough
at the end of the day the time wasted with windows is less than the time i spent learning some basic terminal commands
this is by personal case obviously... the normgroid cattle that has no problem (or doesn't even notice) the ads and spyware should keep using windows

>winblows on work laptop
>loonix on home pc
it's not that hard, really

Does Linux have a proper alternative to the Adobe suite yet? It's still the only thing left keeping me from being fully converted yet

>>714592274
How so? I ran 10 since the insider previews before 11. It's the exact same OS.

Be honest you just want to hurt windows because you're jealous of its success.

>>714606520
who are you quoting?

>>714606786
>Does Linux have a proper alternative to the Adobe suite yet?
Hell no, it can't even run affinity apps. GIMP and whatever other random open source shit is the best you're going to get.

>>714606809
Microsoft has a total asset evaluation of over $1,000,000,000,000.00 if bad words were going to sink Bill's battleship it would have happened literally decades ago

>>714606710
>cinnamon
meh
>2400 packages
nigga wtf

>>714606239
It unironically does not. Gooner threads are at least related to games. At most you're just talking about fps increases and decreases. Other topics ITT include; what type of Linux is the best and what browser should you use to surf the world wide web. Like what the fuck. I'm not a mod, I don't want to be one, and I'm not gonna pretend to be one, but fuck off back to /g/ already with your nonsense until you start talking about the Deck, dicks and all, or once Gabe comes out with SteamOS or whatever it is.

>>714606282
And that's what annoys me the most about Linux.
Again, they should fuck off back to /g/

Death to penguins.

>>714606082
It's just a few troons with no personality so they use their quirky NEET computer to compensate. Nobody actually uses Linux, even since the release of the Steam Deck, Linux usage has DECREASED on Steam.

i'll switch to linux when they'll implement a simple way to return to a base install
the last time i tried arch i bloated it and the only option was to remove everything manually or reinstall hoping not to lose /home

>>714585818 (OP)
>QoL that Windows offers
fucking lmao

>>714606905
Gimp is ass but Krita has been pretty great for a while now desu. It's meant for artists but honestly it's also basically Gimp but better

>>714607065
>i'll switch to linux when they'll implement a simple way to return to a base install
They have that already. It is called immutable. That is what SteamOS is. Also "atomic desktop" which is what Fedora is now, which is why Bazzite is so good.

>>714606786
Clip Studio Paint

I really want to use Windows 10 forever if possible but they keep making it worse and give me no choice.

>>714607229
that isn't supported on linux

>>714607389

>>714607130
https://steamcommunity.com/app/280680/discussions/0/591775243562915678/

>>714607859
>retarded furry demanding to spend 50% less on an art program I installed for free
Furfags never change.

>>714607859
do these retards not know Krita is literally free lol

I would love to really make the switch, because fuck microsoft but its just not there yet. There are still too many random annoying problems that you need to tinker with to fix

>>714607956
I actually bought Krita at full price out of convenience and support to the devs but mostly convenience even though I can literally just apt install krita from the package manager lol.

>>714608105
>still too many random annoying problems that you need to tinker with to fix
anon, before I switched over to Mint my first time, RetroArch would randomly just not work on Windows 10. look like it was launching and then simply nothing. it's been 100% startup for 4 years across various distros with Linux. there's tinkering on Wangblows, too, for a lot of the older games I play. but generally, they require less tinkering and run better on Linux. but you keep having problems and I'll keep enjoying the best OS running.

The greatest Distro for gaming

>>714586383
Winjeets in shambles.

>>714608105
>There are still too many random annoying problems that you need to tinker with to fix
As someone who maintained a Windows/Linux dualboot for 3 years, I really don't get people who say this shit but haven't even tried to take babysteps to migrate. Windows consistently gave me so many fucking headaches. I'm not gonna bullshit and say Linux has been perfect, but every roadbump has been a simple fix, where as with Windows I have to do some esoteric shit in regedit to debug 30 years of horrific jeet code.

>>714609080
this try installing winblows and count how many checkboxes you have to turn off that they left enabled by default and after that you have to install windebloater. after an update it just resets your preferences. having to disable onedrive which is enabled by default too. cortana.. copilot.. just booting up paint and notepad doesn't start up <0.1ms anymore because they added AI to it. it thrashes your disk with reads/writes because Windows Defender is continously scanning everything slowing everything to a halt when gaming, but you can turn it off temporarily and they remind you that they'll turn it back on no worries :)))))

dogshit OS

oh yeah i forgot when you change some hardware it reset your activation and you have to Activate Windows again and until then you can't change color settings or switch to dark mode unless you do some regedit shit

How do you pirate on linux? Do you still just go somewhere like fitgirl?

>>714585818 (OP)
>X11 only
>Has a bug that prevents VRR from working properly in Steam Proton games

>dual boot: win11 for vidya and linux mint for AI nudification of schoolmates and general pornography management
What does /v/ think? Will windoze scan files on my linux drives?

>>714609898
>How do you pirate on linux?
negrosis that shit is free, the only thing you need to have is internet

>>714609898
There are smart boats you can install linux on I believe

I love Minto!

>>714610160
the last time I dual booted windows aggressively took control of the boot loader because it just assumes it's the only OS

>>714610160
>What does /v/ think?
i think i would like you to show me the steps to that AI nudification stuff. Got plenty of content.

It is wild how shit Win11 is.
>You can't even pick which drive to install it onto, it always picks the same one unless you physically swap the drive cables or disconnect one

>>714609898
the same way you do on windows but the games run through wine

>>714609898
install with WINE, run with Lutris
really not much different than Windows except you need to install the compatibility layer software (that being WINE)

>>714609898
Installing some mods and some .exe files has been enough of a pain in the ass for me that it's worth keeping a small dual boot of Windows so I can install whatever I need, and then just transfer the files over to Linux after. This method works fine for me just kinda annoying when it's necessary.

>>714610371
Yeah but is this an easy way to fix this? Linux noob here, but I'm open to learn some console commands if needed.

>>714590394
>falling for the firewall meme in 2025.
zoomers are so fucking retarded.
Firewalls being absolute useless used to be common knowledge

>>714611493
don't know because some future windows update may just brick it like it did for me.

now I just run Windows in a VM either emulated graphics or GPU passthrough for the few things I might need it for

some devs are hard at work trying to improve the graphics for Windows in VMs though

https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/pull/943#issuecomment-2833521281

>>714609898
don't pirate on linux. a lot of pirated games have malware and linux doesn't have antivirus software so you won't even know if you get infected. not worth taking that risk imo ngl

>>714586098
>At this point just [OPTION THAT IS WORSE IN EVERY WAY]

>>714586519
>Distrobutions(distros)
saaaar

>>714586405
Exactly
Was

>>714610569
and you know something? for me, mint was worse. it's not that shit doesn't work, in fact it happily installed on my laptop and connected to wifi blah blah blah. actually using the thing for the same purposes i used the previous os was an absolutely miserable experience. the worst part is, searching the internet just plain doesn't work these days either. so, shit either works for you straight away, or it doesn't and you're fucked.

>>714609401
I am currently fiddling around with bazzite, trying to be able to play games that were previously downloaded on my external drives. I'm using this distro because I was told "it just works" and to be fair it mostly does just work. But the problems it does have are extremely annoying.
Why can I not just plug and play the steam games that are already downloaded on my 2TB external exfat ssd?
Why is my steam download speed still in the shitter despite trying every fix that I was told about?
Games technically running better with higher framerates in some cases doesn't matter to me if I'm stuck dealing with problems at this base level. I'm trying to keep learning and trying different things, because I really don't like microsoft as a company. But the fact that I have to is the problem. These problems do not exist in windows.

>>714593456
Linux would sooner become fully compatible with every game before ReactOS is usable as a daily driver

>>714612541
>Why can I not just plug and play the steam games that are already downloaded on my 2TB external exfat ssd?
pretty sure your drive needs to be in NTFS for linux to be able to run programs off it, not exfat
>Why is my steam download speed still in the shitter despite trying every fix that I was told about?
genuinely have no clue. my download speeds are perfectly fine myself. are you using wifi or ethernet?

>>714586117
Nta but:
a) I have nvidia card
>But AMD ca
Not enough money. Not gonna sell my 4080(now used so I would barely get anything) to get same performance AMD card to try my best to make Linux work. b) Last time I couldn't get homm3 or Doom working and was called retarded winfag when I asked help.

Don't wanna go through being humiliated again for not knowing stuff I didn't know I should know. I guess it's a form of gatekeeping, and I do post "tranime" here so maybe I deserved it.

>>714595387
It's a Linux problem in that Nvidia chose not to provide adequate support for Linux. There's nothing Linux's developers can do about Nvidia's proprietary drivers.

>>714612541
>Why can I not just plug and play the steam games that are already downloaded on my 2TB external exfat ssd?
Because your using a format that is invented by MS and intended for Windows. You COULD do this with a lot of headache, but you're better off just redownloading them with the OS you intend to play them on. I don't even get why this is an expectation, because while technically possible on Linux, the reverse, trying to play games downloaded on linux on windows, is impossible due to Windows limitations
>Why is my steam download speed still in the shitter despite trying every fix that I was told about?
I dunno did a cursory google search and seems like a bazzite specific issue
I had the opposite experience with Mint. Windows often arbitrarily caps download speeds to prioritize background bloat, my DL speeds were on average much faster on Mint than on my Windows partition, and were more consistent as well.

>>714613000
>pretty sure your drive needs to be in NTFS for linux to be able to run programs off it.
From what I see, NTFS as a format is largely not recommended by others using linux. Even still, I have an external HDD that I also can't load games from, and that one is formatted in NTFS
>are you using wifi or ethernet?
ethernet. I have Fios and was downloading at like 1.1gbps before, now dropped to like 20 mbps and up to 40 after I did various fixes that are mentioned online

>>714613339
>From what I see, NTFS as a format is largely not recommended
I'm using LDM myself so frankly, do whatever the fuck you want.

>>714613153
yea linux sucks and any kind of issue is deflected to be your fault bad hardware the game was shit anyway whatever else they want to make up

>>714613339
You can use btrfs with a third party driver download on Windows for a shared games drive between both Linux and Windows apparently. apparently that works pretty well

>>714613336
>seems like a bazzite specific issue
bazzitebros wtf i thought we were the best distro
not like this..

>>714613786
No distro is the best one
Thats why you distro hop

>>714613323
>There's nothing Linux's developers can do about Nvidia's proprietary drivers.
Are you sure?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SWxWIOVBM&t=23s

>>714613339
>was downloading at like 1.1gbps before, now dropped to like 20 mbps and up to 40
Is it just with Steam downloads you're slowed down or download speeds in general? Try a speedtest

>>714612354
You're not doing anything but playing linux-compatible vidya on it, might as well play on a cucksole.

>>714615685
>You're not doing anything but playing linux-compatible vidya on it
Why do you think that? I'm not OP, but calling it a """gaming OS""" doesn't mean that he doesn't use it for anything else.

>>714585970
Yes it is because it's based on Ubuntu which is the easiest Linux distro on the market for googling things

>>714611945
If you pirate then running Windows stuff with Wine is the safe way. Whatever is in there has no leg to stand on when you install them in separate Wine VMs. I was a fan of PlayOnLinux for this purpose, because it was Wine for retards and made a separate compartment for the games. The only downside is that it's quite depreciated by now and Lutris being more complicated and the only viable option for organizing the stuff properly.

Just don't run some random .desktop files or 'chmod +x' everything.

>>714603036
Go with XFCE + IceWM. Then select a Win95 theme and you're set.

>>714603036
Linux Mint Cinnamon just because it's so stable and works.
The smallest DE that's usable is LXQT followed by XFCE. You'll have issues with those as a beginner.

Default Ubuntu or Default Linux Mint is the way to go. Ubuntu first because it's easy to Google if you have a problem.
The further away from Ubuntu you get the more niche problems without solutions start to come up.

t. Been there done that since 2014

>>714586519
Yes it does you absolute retard. It comes with ARCH LINUX which has that

>>714586117
default Ubuntu is the way to play. If it doesn't work on Ubuntu it won't work on Linux. It's like the kiddie pool with some freedomz and easy to Google problems vs normal Linux which is the painful deep end of autism

>>714618318
Getting stuff to work on Ubuntu is actually hard unless you're a Linux expert. The only things that are easy are things that Ubuntu supports out of the box, which ain't much.

>>714585818 (OP)
bump

>>714620853
anti-bump

When I installed Windows 11 on my laptop it suddenly didn't recognise the wifi anymore. Like it just wouldn't show anything at all to connect to. So I wiped it and installed Linux Mint and it connected to the Wifi no problem.

>>714621048
So instead of downloading the driver from the website onto a thumb drive you just installed an entire new OS?

>>714621171
I did download the driver and it didn't work

>>714621171
tbf, both take about the same amount of time I think.