>I care about game ownership and preservation so I will sign this European initiative
>There is a website where you own the games you buy and they care about preservation?
>Eww, I only buy on steam

Why are normies like that?

Cool, where can I get a working version of the crew?

>>714600235
/thread

>>714600167 (OP)
>Game that works on Steam doesn't work on GoG
>Game that works on GoG doesn't work on Steam
Imagine if they set aside their differences and worked together

>>714600235
>Cool, where can I go to eat cow shit?

>>714600623
the issue is that Steam is pretty clear about you not owning any games and doesn't intend on changing that in any future

>>714601291
>>714600167 (OP)
Still better than Battle.net, which states they may revoke your license for no reason. The term "for no reason" is used literally.

>>714600167 (OP)
I buy new games on Steam.
I buy old games on Good Old Games.
All is fine.

>>714600167 (OP)
I'm sure this gay strawman is going to turn the tide for you.

>>714600167 (OP)
>game ownership
piracy is the way to go not these fucking software licenses which are no better than white man's treaties with Indians,

>>714601291
yeah? weird that i've never once in 21 years not been able to play one of my games

>>714601291
It doesn't say it's revocable there.

>>714603393
"license" implies revocable right

>>714601291
Imagine the size of the shit storm when Steam announces it's closure and everyone comes to realize that the hundreds of games they bought are going down with it.

>>714600167 (OP)
Sorry but I stopped paying for digital games more than a decade ago

>>714600235
>the crew
Is this literally THE fucking goyslop game that every chuddie is pissing and shitting himself over?

>>714605315
>chuddie
kys bootlicking faggot

>>714607705
None of the games I ever paid for or would ever pay for has shitty practices like that. Don't like it, don't buy it, simple as.

>>714600167 (OP)
I used to use gog, until they started spouting woke shit and giving money to fag shit. Fuck that

>>714608014
tongue my anus, yves guillemot

The problem is that the games I want to buy are not for sale on GOG.

>>714603393
read the steam subscriber agreement, it has that.
also some games' eula has that.

>>714605315
cru 1 was pure sovl thoughbeit
if you play with Japanese voice overs the main character is voiced by Takehito Koyasu, who also plays Keisuke Takahashi in Initial D.

>>714600235
>go to the cinema
>what do you mean I can't take movie roll with me?

>>714601291
This effectively means nothing in the EU.
The ECJ has ruled that software sold under perpetual license is a good.

I can't imagine being that much of a goy slave that I don't just buy the cheapest gray market key available if I desperately need to "own" a game. Treating consumption like charity is just so unbelievably homosexual to me.

>>714609302
I agree that being mindful about what you purchase would solve most of the problems.
I just pirate everything, and I only buy stuff I explicitly want to support (after completing the game, of course). I own everything, and I am happy.

>>714609736
That mentality is kinda unfathomable to me though. When I need a new toaster I buy the cheapest one I can find that still works and does what I want. I don't go to toaster-sensei and buy a toaster folded 6 million times and give him a tip to "support" him.

>>714609889
With software, you can always get the best toaster in the world and use it completely for free. This is a given.
Paying for software (unless it's for business) is inherently about whether you want to support the person/company/philosophy behind the product for whatever reason. It's a personal choice. There are very few game devs who I genuinely want to support, and I still hate buying software, so I'd normally rather buy merch that would actually give me something fun I couldn't get otherwise. But there have been cases where I refused to buy merch of games I liked a lot because the people who made the game were just assholes.

>>714600623
i run my gog games through steam all the time for the controller configuration. unless im not understanding what you mean

>>714600167 (OP)
Uh oh
Stinky

>>714611865
>buy game
>download offline installers and extra content
>put installers and content on storage drive forever
>hope storage drive never dies
still better than steam when it comes to ownership

>>714600167 (OP)
>>Eww, I only buy on steam
no one says this nor does this

>>714612034
>buy game on Steam
>enjoy the multitude of features Steam offers
>IF, and a very strong IF, something happens to Steam 20+ years from now (it won't) then just torrent the GOG exe

>>714612034
>buy steam game
>download files and extra content
>put files and content on storage drive forever
>delete one line in a dll file to make it work offline
>hope storage drive never dies
I honestly don't see the difference

I buy all games I can from GoG but my Steam wishlist is still longer than my GoG wishlist. Most publishers, even indie ones, still avoid it like the plague.

>>714600167 (OP)
>buy on Steam
>game either works on Deck, or someone has already figured out which files you have to install with protontricks
>buy on GOG
>game either works on Deck, or it doesn't and you have no idea why

>>714612182
the only thing I have to complain about steam is that it won't do local versioning.

>>714605315
No, I'm pissing and shitting myself over EA killing servers for Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 4 on consoles where I can XIM to shit on console players.

>>714612158
>enjoy the multitude of features Steam offers
i do admit i like some of the cards. i like collecting them for my fav games. but other than that i dont really mess with steam features. their controller configuration is great though so i still typically run my gog games through steam

>>714612158
TPBP.

GOGies: BTFO.

>>714612760
>I don't use Steam's features
>However, I do use Steam's features (Steam Controller API which requires Steam to be installed)
What did Anon-kun mean by this?

>>714600167 (OP)
Not every game is on gog

Buy games on steam
Pirate GOG games

>>714612860
well you said 'multitude'. i just like the cards. the controller config is just convenient. ds4 works just as well

>>714600167 (OP)
>Eww, I only buy on steam
Literally first mover advantage. I made this account when i was 17 and, as far as i know, there is no platform that is offering something that i care enough to switch. Maybe if they had the exact same games as Steam, but didn't cave to my countrys local laws that keep me from even accessing, let alone buying, thousands of titles because they don't have an age rating. And if Steam offered a form of age verification that my government deems acceptable even that argument would disappear.

>>714609116
>Buy bluray
>what do you mean it shouldn't self destruct after 6 months?

>>714600167 (OP)
>notice I have the System Shock 2 Remaster in my GOG library
>apparently it was a preorder bonus that came with the System Shock Remake
Huh. Neat.

>>714602758
Now wait until you lose access to you account

>>714612376
>pay $9/mo gamepass
>dont buy any games
>dont bother with goydeck (outsold by switch 2 in 1 month btw)
>just werks

>>714615064
how?

>>714615064
i'm not clinically retarded so that wont ever happen

>>714615479
If for whatever reason you delete your account you'll also permanently lose your games
So much for owning them

>>714600235
>online only game
>people still get fooled by these things
If you ever for whatever reason need to connect to a server even to play the single player mode, I will never buy your game

>>714615737
why would I do that?

>>714615479
Turn off your internet and then try installing a game on Steam. See what happens.

>>714615830
i think steam requires a connection to install games.
they told me that when I signed up.

>>714615064
>now wait until you lose your game disc

>>714615737
>throw away your games
>WTF I don’t have them anymore!?

>>714615905
Therefore, the second you lose your internet connection for any reason, you lose access to your gaming library.

Wait until you are dead, you lose access to your games guys

You cant sell your steam account or give it to your children (/v/irgins dont need to worry about the later)

>>714616087
most of the ones I have work in offline mode, but also its okay.
I don't need to be entertained 24/7 and I could always read a book.

>>714616197
now that actually is annoying. we should be able to transfer and sell accounts. but scammers and bots would probably go even more wild.

>>714600167 (OP)
>I care about
There's your problem. Nothing you care about will ever matter. Just get the cheapest instant gratification and go on with your life.
We're in hell, and it just gets worse. Forever.

You cant get a proper refund for games you buy on steam, instead it goes to your steam wallet

>>714616591
*yawn*

>>714616665
Maybe in your country kek

>>714600167 (OP)
I buy games on GoG when they aren't on Steam, which is the case for a lot of old PC games. Just beat Akalabeth today since I'm starting the Ultima series from the beginning.

>>714612409
It does. They have just hidden it in the console for some reason.

>>714616806
Depends on the payment method, with transfer you dont get anything back
Also what does gabem micropecker taste like?

>>714617039
oh sweet, I'll have to look that up.

>>714608930
Just don't play those, sweaty. There's a reason they're not on GOG. :3

>>714617043
What sort of weird 3rd world shithole transfer are you using that the money doesn't just go back on your card?

>>714617238
It's an option in Steam, and the faggots you're arguing with sees the worst option as the only choice for hyperbole reasons.

>>714617465
That is just your assumption. Personally I assume he lives in niggerland and is saving up $0.5 in steambucks every month from his dayjob of trading steam cards.

>>714617465
>noooo not my heckin steam!!!

>>714617465
I also love waiting 1 year to pay $30 on a $70 game I can play for free with gamepass since launch
At least steam isnt evil and anti gamer

>>714617808
>steam allows refunds directly back to the payment method
>you lie and claim it doesn't
>I call you on your lie
>you seethe
Move the goalposts, because I already kicked 3 right between the uprights. Maybe talk about how kids are exposed to porn on Steam and I should care for some reason?

>>714616667
Get used to that, the boredom is the worst part. Aside from all the suffering. Which gets boring.

>>714608994
>if you play
>present tense

>>714616197
retard. there doesn't need to be an official account transfer for me to give my kid my email and password.
that said, i won't be giving my steam library to my daughter because i don't need her to see the amount of hours i spent playing degenerate shit

>>714617948
>Play AAA game on release
>It's an unfinished buggy mess
>buy it a year later with a big discount
>Get the finished version of the game
>Try and play it a year later on goypass
>It has been removed, you own nothing

>annoying news on the sidebar keep talking about a beta
>signing to beta bugs my game
>even if you disable beta mode, uninstall, game is still bugged (wtf)
epic steam ""features""

>>714618521
>play games in front of kids
>"Wow, daddy! You have a lot of neat games."
>"They're all on my Steam account, which I'm willing to you."
>"Thanks, dad!"
>get diagnosed with cancer
>contact Steam and have every game deleted
>give my login info to my lawyer and have it willed to my kids
>enjoy the show as a ghost

>>714618997
>Not making a secret second account with nothing but incest porn and gifting that instead

>>714600167 (OP)
Sorry but after gog started begging for donos after preserving a bunch of Capcom shit I didnt give a fuck about that already had dedicated fan bases that preserved them just so they could sell them i will not be buying from these jews. My summer sale cart was the last one fuck gog

>>714600167 (OP)
When I buy games I try to do it physically or on GOG. The problem is that most games aren't on GOG.

>>714600167 (OP)
>Eww, I only buy on steam
incorrect

>>714612158
>>enjoy the multitude of features Steam offers
like what?
fucking nothing??

>>714600167 (OP)
It's all performative.
People don't actually care about owning games.
They play once and never again.

>>714619475
the list is massive but the ones i personally care about
>achievements
>playtime tracking
>controller compatibility
>best storefront with the largest selection in all of vidya
>gg.deals, fanatical, GMG, etc offer much more flexibility in buying games than any other platform
>reliable and centralized location for my games for over 2 decades
>cloud saves
there's countless other things like workshop and multiplayer features that are irrelevant to me but some people would consider them to be their most important thing about Steam

>>714619804
>>achievements
who cares, the achievement is playing the game
>>playtime tracking
who cares, unless you're a faggot trying to get clout for posting your playtime
>>controller compatibility
fair
>>best storefront with the largest selection in all of vidya
>buying games
>>gg.deals, fanatical, GMG, etc offer much more flexibility in buying games than any other platform
>buying games
>>reliable and centralized location for my games for over 2 decades
you don't know how to make and use folders?
>>cloud saves
fair but only if you have more devices than your PC
>workshop
fair but who cares about workshop, if it didn't exist then there would be sites with mods/forums
>multiplayer
sir we are on 4channel

>>714620186
Cringe

>>714619804
>>achievements
kek, stopped reading.
do steamies really? RLY?

>>714612182
If you live in the EU, changing that line would mean breaking the law since everyone has signed the DMCA that prohibits circumventing DRM. No law would prohibit you from using the file you bought and downloaded from GoG. Revoking your right to use them wouldn't hold water with EU consumer protection laws.

>>714621661
>Revoking your right to use them wouldn't hold water with EU consumer protection laws.
So the whole SKG thing was pointless all along.

>>714622003
Not really, because SKG is addressing the case where game makers and publishers remotely disable your games by killing off the servers that make the game function. There's nuance, but SKG argues that this should already not be allowed under the current consumer protection laws either.