Thread 714603031

>you can’t just release server files
>muh security
>you’ll get hackz0r
>muh 4chan 1337 h@k3R viruses
You bottoms who just want to get your balloon knot stuffed by mega corps here’s Unreal Tournament 99 still active today on openspy, never had a single issue.

Modern devs look open this mystic ancient technology and despair. Apparently when Graham Hancock talks about ancient civilization and lost technology he meant 1990s game devs who are actually competent at their jobs and server executables. Apparently modern game devs are just sub human IQ levels of worthless

>but muh propriety libraries

>law is enforced
> all future games must comply
>comply with the law or get aaa blasted by eu prosecutors or lose out on a half a billion user market

See that problem solved devs either comply with the law or get assblasted. Not my problem

>>714603031 (OP)
>Apparently modern game devs are just sub human IQ levels of worthless
Literally yes. Nice Grahamcock analogy gtw

>>714603031 (OP)
>tactical ops in the serverlist
holyshit Op ... where did all the time go

>>714603031 (OP)
You're missing the point. Games have a tech stack that they need to setup an environment for, including server infrastructure and such. You can give out all the tools for this to the average normie, but they won't be able to use them. If all of this cannot launch and work by pressing "play" on Steam, then it would violate the guideline because it needs to have the maximum of accessibility for even the most legally retarded fuck. Back then and now it works because you have people writing guides for you, making mods and scripts to do everything for you, but without being beholden to any laws that require a maximum of conformity. Like most dev tools by themselves are incomprehensible and tailored to developers, but not the average normie

>>714603031 (OP)
>never had a single issue.
Yeah sure, just ignore the years of servers with RCE exploits that were the primary cause of updates, including the community ones made after Epic finally handed the source over to a trusted community dev.

>>714603812
>You can give out all the tools for this to the average normie, but they won't be able to use them
>Like most dev tools by themselves are incomprehensible and tailored to developers, but not the average normie
Devs are retarded. Anything they can use, we can use.

>muh modern indie games
meanwhile deep rock galactic, an incredibly popular indie multiplayer game, uses peer to peer for its game just fucking fine

>>714603031 (OP)
based

>>714603812
>it violates the shit I made up just now
Ok? It's not law yet, you can't nitpick the level of accessibility required.

>>714603812
>then it would violate the guideline
What guideline?

>>714603812
>maximum of accessibility
fanfiction, the initiative calls for a reasonable amount of accessibility. as long as the game is still playable and not destroyed, some amount to get it to work is acceptable.

>>714603031 (OP)
how do these fans-made server protect themself against cheaters/hackers?

>>714603812
but why not make it work? seems simple enough if you are a competent developer and already works with that technology
>You can give out all the tools for this to the average normie, but they won't be able to use them.
it's not for the average normie, it's for the average nerd who cares about hosting a server for the game.
>Back then and now it works because you have people writing guides for you, making mods and scripts to do everything for you, but without being beholden to any laws that require a maximum of conformity. Like most dev tools by themselves are incomprehensible and tailored to developers, but not the average normie
It was not like that, was it? I don't think people that hosted servers for UT had high level tools

>>714603031 (OP)
why are jannies waiting until 490 posts and deleting these threads? what don't they want in the archive?

>>714603031 (OP)
Soldier of Fortune is one of the more famous cases, but there's certainly others including most any Quake based game, which ended up with a known Remote Code Execution issue in its final client version
In effect this meant that anyone who connected to a malicious private server would effectively get their entire computer hacked immediately. The only way to fix this is by updating the game client, which isn't always possible. For SOF specifically this means you should only be playing with a custom modded client like SOFPlus as it fixes the exploit.

>>714607302
The same way they did in 1999 - server admins

>>714603812
don't need the average normie
just need 1 in 1000 to host a server
eat shit loser

>>714603812
Wow this is some serious zoomer cope. Weak little zoomer fingers wrote this post by tapping on a screen.

>>714607302
votekick, zoomie

>>714608915
As someone who recently played gmod again, server admins arent always on the server which gives retards full reign
>>714609167
>instantly rejoins

>>714609258
voteban

>>714609314
95% of server admins are too retarded to activate that, even nowdays.

>>714609386
For good reason. What happens when the majority of the players on your server are assholes?
They're just gonna voteban all the good players, those good people aren't gonna come back again, and your server is dead. All just because a bunch of assholes joined the server at just the right moment when there wasn't a decent amount of good players on it.

>>714603812
absolutely retarded take, providing everything that is needed to do it yourself and doing it for someone are two different things. Just because you're too dumb to RTFM doesn't mean they didn't make it possible.

>>714610139
so how do you deal with instantly-rejoining as mentioned in >>714609258
mentally ill retards have become way more common in Gmod and other similiar games nowdays.
10 years ago it was nowhere this bad and actual assholes were usually bullied off for good or had actual mods.

>>714609258
>instantly rejoins
IP-based or user ID-based cooldowns (or a combination of both)

>>714610139
>>714610392
By the time of EoS and private servers, the only people sticking around are veterans and committed fans of the game, and they have a stronger sense of community regarding disruptive people.
Trolls and shitters can only stick around for so long until they get bored and move to newer games, while unhinged schizos can be identified easier. Also :>>714610758
t. plays older games