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Anonymous No.714644535 [Report] >>714644658 >>714644683 >>714645278 >>714645409 >>714645432 >>714645468 >>714645690 >>714645760 >>714645934 >>714646042 >>714646169 >>714646402 >>714647035 >>714647037 >>714647551 >>714647624 >>714647637 >>714647752 >>714649124 >>714652043 >>714656212 >>714660365
name 1 flaw
you cant
Anonymous No.714644636 [Report] >>714645278 >>714647158
Not enough sex girls.
Anonymous No.714644641 [Report]
stupid name
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x
hey chat gpt give me four asci characters type ahh name
Anonymous No.714644658 [Report] >>714646025
>>714644535 (OP)
Easy. X had a better soundtrack.
Anonymous No.714644683 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
needs more stuff in it. story mode is pretty meagre and there isn't much else to do
Anonymous No.714644687 [Report]
boost is horrible
Anonymous No.714644716 [Report]
It's bad game design if the player has to be aware of rubber banding
Anonymous No.714644787 [Report] >>714644838 >>714644948
how are zoomers and gen a reacting to this gane?
do they even play it on switch 2? or too busy bing bing wahooing with mk world?
Anonymous No.714644838 [Report] >>714645070
>>714644787
Zoomers can't afford a Switch 2
Anonymous No.714644948 [Report] >>714645070
>>714644787
Nobody's playing it.
Anonymous No.714644972 [Report]
X is superior.
Anonymous No.714645070 [Report]
>>714644838
>>714644948
kek, figures
they also would have to get past the input lag on the gamecube emulator too...
Anonymous No.714645278 [Report] >>714646832
>>714644535 (OP)
I honestly wish there was more content like a level editor, online play, more machine customization, and having more tracks.

But that is more due to a lack of a proper sequel than anything wrong with GX.

>>714644636
Princia Ramode was my first waifu.
Anonymous No.714645409 [Report] >>714645543
>>714644535 (OP)
Not a flaw, but GX set the bar so high and AV got shunted elsewhere that we're never gonna see an F-Zero game worth a damn ever again.
Games like Wipeout just don't compete; they're going for a completely different feel and I know due to my time in bNG
Anonymous No.714645432 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
it didn't get a proper remaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRYUCstIdfM
https://youtu.be/XSTRmAVre9I?si=UPzAuQv-O4btdjd_
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L0pW3Eol6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDQdHneoTk
https://youtu.be/P5UUGZDJorQ?si=YHPQbnKpssTVxZml
Anonymous No.714645468 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
no sequel
no goodbye
Anonymous No.714645524 [Report]
here are your flaws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF_9U3XHHVE
Anonymous No.714645543 [Report] >>714646001
>>714645409
you say that but the moment Nintendo shows a new one everyone here will be soifacing even if it ends up being the blandest, safest sequel ever.
Anonymous No.714645656 [Report] >>714646126 >>714648380
literally all the stats lie
>some machines are far better than their stats would ever imply
>some are FAR worse
>most don't even resemble the listed stats whether they're good or bad machines.
Anonymous No.714645690 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
A lot of tracks could be more narrow. ESPECIALLY the AX courses.
There are frame rate drops and lowered geometry in local multiplayer. The game can't handle having AI in local multiplayer too.
Spin attacks are kinda useless.
Not much reason to use anything other than Max Speed for almost all cars.

Love the game to death though.
Anonymous No.714645760 [Report] >>714646143
>>714644535 (OP)
can I play this properly with an xbox controller or do I NEED gamecube?
Anonymous No.714645934 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
Someone pointed out that in that Casino Palace oval track that the audience stands aren't properly modeled (it's just a flat slanted plane with an crowd texture) and it's been deeply bothering me ever since.
Anonymous No.714646001 [Report]
>>714645543
Oh FUCK no I do not trust modern in-house Nintendo to develop F-Zero worth a DAMN
Anonymous No.714646025 [Report]
>>714644658
snes has a better ost than either
Anonymous No.714646042 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
Shit soundtrack
Anonymous No.714646126 [Report] >>714646252 >>714646367 >>714648380
>>714645656
machine letter grades are copy-pasted from X wholesale and is basically an intentional design choice at this point
Black BVLL is supposed to have "A" in grip or something and it turns out he's got the worst fucking grip in the entire game which makes him the best MTS racer instead
Anonymous No.714646143 [Report]
>>714645760
Gamecube is almost necessary. F-Zero GX was specifically designed with the Gamecube's fucking fat A button and its analog triggers.
Anonymous No.714646169 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
Multiplayer being just the player racers and reviving, I get why, but it's something I wish it had.
Anonymous No.714646252 [Report] >>714646367 >>714646742 >>714648380
>>714646126
>machine letter grades are copy-pasted from X wholesale
except Wild Goose for some fuckin reason.

Letter grades also ignore a lot of weird shit like Drag, drifting ability and speed retention.
Anonymous No.714646362 [Report]
The music doesn't fit any of the tracks or even F-Zero in general.
Anonymous No.714646367 [Report] >>714648380
>>714646252
>>714646126
also how boost strength and boost duration are two different stats
Anonymous No.714646402 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
The poser fanbase.
Anonymous No.714646742 [Report] >>714647984
>>714646252
there was this google doc that showed every machine's strengths and weaknesses and gave them a final tier based off that but I can't find it anymore
Anonymous No.714646832 [Report]
>>714645278
We needed more sexo girls.
Imagine licking that belly.
Anonymous No.714647035 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
no death race
Anonymous No.714647037 [Report] >>714647602 >>714647764 >>714648045 >>714648845 >>714656881
>>714644535 (OP)
I think the characters look kinda ridiculous in a bad way, but that must be the Sega "charm" since in X they looked fine.
The fucking reporter guy at the end of each cup has to be the absolute worst one, this guy screams "Dreamcast game reject"
Anonymous No.714647158 [Report]
>>714644636
Kate Alen is all I need.
Anonymous No.714647551 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
It's actually too easy once you're even slightly decent at the game and advanced tech.
There's nothing in-game that can actually challenge a high-level player besides autistic time attacking speedrun shit.
Anonymous No.714647602 [Report] >>714647667
>>714647037
He's been around since the SNES.
Anonymous No.714647624 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
Rubberbanding
Anonymous No.714647637 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
MEGA COCK
Anonymous No.714647667 [Report]
>>714647602
I know, but here in GX in 3D he looks really bad.
I did like how he looks in 99 tho but it's lifted directly from SNES
Anonymous No.714647713 [Report]
Is it true nintendo thinks this game is so good that there's no reason to even try to make a new f zero
Anonymous No.714647752 [Report] >>714648160
>>714644535 (OP)
1-the music kinda sucks compared to X
2-no track builder (exists in 64dd X)
3-it was made by sega, so nintendo hates the series now
Anonymous No.714647764 [Report]
>>714647037
I actually love the character design in this game. It's like 1970s space cartoon meets Shenmue background character.
Anonymous No.714647984 [Report] >>714649862
>>714646742
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Xsq-KV3lpfk9SS4_L84WV-JuXHOR8_GlFZRnskkSU/edit?pli=1&gid=26#gid=26
Anonymous No.714648045 [Report]
>>714647037
Anonymous No.714648160 [Report]
>>714647752
F-Zero X was the last great game Nintendo ever made. Wasn't even this millennium.
Anonymous No.714648380 [Report]
>>714645656
>>714646126
>>714646252
>>714646367
This right here, God I was pissed when I looked up a guide to vehicle stats years after my prime time with the game
Anonymous No.714648835 [Report] >>714649015
It bothers me a lot how GX is the only F-Zero game where the physics benefit heavier machines.
X and the GBA games have this issue where higher weight causes faster speed loss in the engines.
I'm not an expert on physics or simulated physics, but shouldn't heavier objects retain more momentum? Or is it a factor of drag or air resistance?
Anonymous No.714648845 [Report]
>>714647037
love the interviews at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMJG8SkOjxo
Anonymous No.714649015 [Report] >>714649260
>>714648835
yeah, heavier = more speed, lighter = more accel/decel
Anonymous No.714649124 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
Not enough racers and tracks and modes and it eventually ends. Also Zoda's rad theme is permanently in my brain any time I encounter desert setting.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfsBB9J7aE&list=PLOeL3jsWDZsCQSqAwXUskTKvxJ-vUsbUS&index=13
Anonymous No.714649260 [Report] >>714649467 >>714650228
>>714649015
that's sort of how it works, at least in X. Heavier machines have higher top speeds, but have a much harder time maintaining that speed and boosting is essentially kneecapped because you can't stack boost upon boost as well because you're loosing speed much faster.

For example, you can look at two machines with identical letter grades, but different body weights like Deep Claw and Wild Goose or or Space Angler and Hyper Speeder, set them to the same thing on the pick-up graph, and drive them, the heavier machine will end up being slower in-spite of having technically higher top speed.
The GBA games seem to have this same issue, while GX does not because the physics seem to treat heavier objects with more momentum and therefore more speed retention.

Me, not being a physics guy, am not sure if X's engine is more accurate to reality or GX's engine.
Anonymous No.714649309 [Report] >>714649426 >>714649467 >>714651371 >>714656370
The great debate.

Who is the best racer? For me it's motherfucking LEON, he does it for the fucking kids, bitch.
Anonymous No.714649426 [Report]
>>714649309
Shame his machine if pure dogshit. Found it the worst next to Daigoroh's.
Anonymous No.714649442 [Report]
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAPTAIN FALCON WILL ALWAYS BE BOUND
HOT ON THE TRAIL
TRACKING FOES DOWNNN
HEEEEEE'S OURR CAAAPIITANN
THREE CHEERS FOR THE CHAMPION
Anonymous No.714649467 [Report]
>>714649260
GX, that's why GX's engine is still the GOAT but that shouldn't dissuade you from enjoying the others
>>714649309
>Exterminate ALL ANIMALS!
>I'm not giving even ONE PENNY of this race money to charity!
Beastman and Don Genie are the most based characters in the game and when you have Captain Falcon as the bar that's saying something
Anonymous No.714649862 [Report] >>714650070 >>714654075
>>714647984
I am still amazed that AV gave such a high air friction value to the Dark Schneider, Space Angler, Cosmic Dolphin, and Groovy Taxy with what I assume was a last minute nerf before release instead of rebalancing the vehicles.

We could have had a world where Cosmic Dolphin was actually made to win F-Zero races. Instead Cosmic Dolphin preforms as good at winning races as Digi Boy is at getting chicks.
Anonymous No.714649996 [Report]
>SONIC PHANTOM
Anonymous No.714650070 [Report]
>>714649862
There needed to be one extra stat-line to give more performance variation, it would fix some of the bad racers. Something like separating corner handling at max speed and cornering while gaining speed.
Anonymous No.714650078 [Report]
Not a SEGA franchise.
Anonymous No.714650197 [Report]
You're all homogay if you don't like Spade and the based Magic Seagull
Anonymous No.714650228 [Report]
>>714649260
I'm also not a physics guy but just going off land-speed cars, race cars, jet planes, and whatever the fastest hypercars are right now, maximum velocity and keeping momentum is way more reliant on air resistance/slipstreaming/whatever, and enough power to overcome what's left after you streamline the body enough, than it is on actual weight.
Anonymous No.714650321 [Report]
To this day I cannot beat Chain in story mode.
Anonymous No.714650376 [Report] >>714650543
For me, it's the Hyper Speeder. The honest man's missile.
Anonymous No.714650543 [Report]
>>714650376
For me it's Night Thunder
Anonymous No.714650593 [Report]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaMNseIe_vI
Anonymous No.714650786 [Report] >>714650963
Baba has the best theme, that is all.
Anonymous No.714650963 [Report] >>714651094 >>714651817
>>714650786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3RzzP8lExY
ENTER
Anonymous No.714651094 [Report]
>>714650963
After all these years, it's still Pico
Anonymous No.714651371 [Report]
>>714649309
Deathborn. His car is shockingly good if you set its stats right and get a hang for its handling.
Anonymous No.714651817 [Report] >>714651891
>>714650963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6la7tTLrlkQ
Anonymous No.714651891 [Report]
>>714651817
Respect the ascot
Anonymous No.714652043 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
it feels best with a gamecube controller, which I'm not sure most people playing it today have.
Anonymous No.714652139 [Report] >>714652265 >>714652762 >>714657256
Who is the best racer in GX? I always just used captain falcon because he seemed good enough and the game is so tough I was worried about getting used to a new vehicle. I beat everything with him though
Anonymous No.714652265 [Report]
>>714652139
Mr. EAD
Anonymous No.714652762 [Report]
>>714652139
Actual tier faggotry? Don Genie, Black Shadow, Red Gazelle, The Skull, Gomar & Shioh, Phoenix, Zoda, Super/Mrs. Arrow, and I'd say Deathborn.
Anonymous No.714654075 [Report] >>714654987
>>714649862
It still blows my mind they tried to balance air friction like it was going to be the saving grace for broken stat blocks. Cosmic Dolphin's a joke now-like, they actually gave it cornering meant for a bathtub on asphalt and then slapped on enough air drag to make a paper plane cry. They had all the lore and aesthetics set for it to be a high-tier precision machine but nope, nerfed into irrelevance. Dark Schneider at least had excuse flavor-wise, but Dolphin got done dirty. AV really pulled a "we'll fix it in post" and just... didn't.
Anonymous No.714654987 [Report]
>>714654075
If GX ever got a sequel, Nintendo these days would have to at least pretend to maintain a patch cycle. Imagine.
Anonymous No.714656212 [Report]
>>714644535 (OP)
>Plays worse than X
>Whole game feels like it's in molasses compared to X
>Shitty, boring, overly long and overly large tracks take away any of the excitment and thrill that X had
>Absolute dogshit soundtrack and aesthetic compared to X
>Isn't X
Anonymous No.714656370 [Report]
>>714649309
pretty objectively it's don genie, unless you meant design or stylewise, then it's james mccloud
Anonymous No.714656881 [Report]
>>714647037
>since in X they looked fine
X intentionally went for a sort of edgy '80s comic and animation aesthetic. Like the whole thing feels like someone wanted to make a video game with the same sort of feel as something like Heavy Metal or one of those darker Madhouse OVAs from the '80s/'90s. It's something a bit darker and even edgier than what you would expect from a Nintendo game without being over the top and the whole package, from character art and design to the colors, the extreme sense of speed, the narrowness of the tracks, the music, etc. works in service to that.

GX, in comparison, just feels like generic 2000s slop. Calling it "Dreamcast" is an insult because the correct term is "Gamecube." There's something about the Gamecube era were almost everything felt half-assed and soulless, even the stuff that should have been soulful like Eternal Darkness. Prime 1 is one of the few games to really escape that. Also, this was when Nintendo was trying to turn F-Zero into a kiddy franchise with the anime and everything so all the edge was sanded off which destroyed a lot of the aesthetic appeal.
Anonymous No.714657256 [Report] >>714657418
>>714652139
falcon genuinely has pretty amazing stats. his speed isn't good enough to be the time trial meta but he's in the top 50% in terms of top speed and his everything else just werks without any blatant flaws other faster cars can suffer from.

they probably did it as a consolation for how bullshit story mode is, he needs to be good in order to beat it without tas level play
Anonymous No.714657287 [Report]
Why did the franchise die?
Anonymous No.714657418 [Report]
>>714657256
>Falcon
>good
lol
kek, even
Anonymous No.714660365 [Report] >>714660483
>>714644535 (OP)
X had better music during races.
X also had better levels overall, though there are a few standouts in GX.
Tracks are wider and controls are more simplified leading to a decrease in gameplay depth.
The rubberbanding in story missions is so obnoxiously bad that winning is less about driving well and more about pulling ahead of your opponent at the optimal moment before the finish line.
The actual speed of your vehicle has been decreased from the last game and tries to compensate for it by stretching out the camera lens above certain speeds.
Vehicle stats are meaningless and often outright lie due to the new engine.
Sega didn't understand the series art direction and everyone looks weird and kind of shitty for it.
The new characters are lame.
99% of custom vehicles are really ugly and only used to make dumb looking machines with broken stats.
The story is really dumb. I know that's sort of a given but it's kind of amazing how genuinely retarded the narrative gets by the final few chapters.
Anonymous No.714660483 [Report]
>>714660365

Snu-snu with Mrs. Arrow!
Anonymous No.714662713 [Report]
Super Arrow has the best theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_SIBkirEyE&list=RDh_SIBkirEyE
Anonymous No.714663332 [Report] >>714663474
Rubber banding AI

that's really it
Anonymous No.714663474 [Report]
>>714663332
just kill the rubber banding bots