Now that the payed shilling of this game died can we finally vent how disappointing this game is?

It is a incredibly mediocre and repetitive game.

0) The story is dogshit and gets uber cringe with every DLC. It reads like some AI who was trained on the most retarded DOOM 2016 fan theories wrote this shit.
>So you kill god in this game
>And also the devil
>However the devil is the original god

Like when you start saying the the doom slayer is some multiversal entity while getting blocked by literal ledges and getting killed with normal UAC weapons made by humans then I have a massive disconnect

1) The game is repetitive trash
There are only 2 games in this game.
1.1) FPS platforming
All in all this was OK, I think the early version where glitched where the slayer did not grab the ledges, I remember that, they fixed it now it basically helps break up the repetitive main game

1.2) Claustrophobic bootleg arena shooter
This is the main problem. It is FAR FAR FAR Worse in the base game while the DLCs fix this however all of the DLC are shit.

Basically there is only 1 game you are literally LOCKED into a VERY small arena sometimes it is literally a claustrophobic magic bubble made by a magic dog the only strategy is to run in a circle. The bigger arenas are not better. They are small and the repetitive nature of the game FORCES you to run in circles around the arena or you get fucked.

The other repetitive nature of the game is that it is a retarded pokemon game where you need to match the weapons to the demons where some of them are simply super effective the alternative is running around and shooting the same demons longer.

It is unbelievably repetitive and the ghost is everything that is wrong with this game. There is only 1 way to deal with the ghost and it is to use the beam.

Other demons have like weaknesses to 2 weapons. And that is it. And obviously only 1 solution is the better one.

1/3

nuDoom is gay

>>714666652 (OP)
Agreed. 2016 was better.

>>714666652 (OP)
>incredibly mediocre
your first sentence is a failure. an "incredibly" mediocre doom would have been a snap L1 to iron sight cod clone. that truly would have been incredible, you'd do a double take.

I like the arena gameplay. I didn't originally like it but it grew on me. It's unique enough. I liked the little areas you fight in more in Eternal. Each "arena" area was more fleshed out than 2016's was. And there's MUCH more in between arena to arena combat than 16 too.

It's not a traditional doom game though.

>>714666652 (OP)

The combat is retarded it is basically you doing very counter logical things like farming demons.

The notion of farming demons is very counter intuitive especially for a game where you are a big strong slayer who is supposed to kill everything.

Remember big bad slayer not to destroy the demons in 1 hit and to farm them until they start flashing so you can glory kill them to be rewarded with HP.

Should this not be the opposite? Like Arena shooters rewarded you for killing enemies fast. Why is this not the same here?

The game has also counter logical things in it like the ice bomb and the flamethrower being used at the same time to farm HP and armor. This is counter logical because you think (in cartoon logic) that if you use a flame thrower on a frozen demon then the demon will un-freeze and be back to fighting you.

However despite all logic you needing to freeze and burn a demon helps you farm it faster.

The chainsaw also is a farming tool. Basically you need to NOT KILL the weak demons and to save them so you can chainsaw them to have unlimited ammunition.

It is unlimited because the chainsaw regenerates over time.

The feeling is a repetitive game that has very little value.

2/3

>>714666652 (OP)
I enjoyed the single player but don't remember any of it. Same with Doom 2016. But the gameplay was superb and the online was great in 2016. Its garbage in Eternal because there's no versus or anything. Just boring boss shit.

>>714666652 (OP)
>>714667474


2) The base game game play is retarded.
The DLC 2 fixes this by giving you every upgrade and every fully evolve weapon (I do not care for the name they use for it in canon) however the base game is shit because you NEED to farm evolution points to evolve your weapon in a certain way. For example the hook on the shotgun is ESSENTIAL since it sets demons on fire leting you farm armor. You need to be retarded not to get it.

>Oh want that? Here you need to farm demons in this way to get 20 evolution points before we let you get this upgrade to this weapon.

Ah yes a game where I need to farm evolution points for my weapons not to suck. Forget about playing the game or having fun! Now you need to kill demons in this specific retarded way that lets you maximize the evolution points you farm.

What shit!

The same trash was in 2016 was I the only one who after getting the BFG instead of teasing it out to kill the 50 zombies for fun.... literally pulled out the micro rocket machine to farm the
>Stick up 5 demons at the same time with micro rockets to get a evolution that makes this a super weapon
?

PS: The community for this game is pure zoomer cancer.

>>714666652 (OP)
>Now that the payed shilling of this game died can we finally vent how disappointing this game is?
where the hell have you been retard, /v/ has been nonstop shitting on this game for half a decade

>>714667139
>I like the arena gameplay
HOW?

Did you ever play any real arena shooters?
Eternal is incredibly repetitive.

>>714667027
>your first sentence is a failure.
NO it is not retard.

It means the game is ok-ish however lack anything to want you play more or to return to it unlike other games. Basically entertaining for 7minutes and then you ask yourself why you keep on playing.

>would have been a snap L1 to iron sight cod clone

>snap L1 to
You write this like anyone knows what this means.

>cod clone
For all the rage about COD I literally never played it like any of it! And I do not know anyone who plays it.

>>714667550
>where the hell have you been
Where have you?

> shitting on this game
Yes and there was always the payed eternal marketing team shill in every thread ready to defend how demon weak points are super cool and you need to git gud or some shit.

The steam statistics do not lie, most people did not like this game since they did not buy the DLC.

It is a sad state that now the internet and /v/ is overrun with payed shills and not simply AI bots ready to shill the latest game.

>>714667645
We say "arena" gameplay but it's more like a Horde mode gameplay. We're not talking like pvp arena shooters.

I'm ok with getting locked into a small intricate map and having to wipe out all the monsters. Like a slaughter map. I'm fine with that in Eternal. That gameplay approach grew on me.

>>714667757
Have you ever considered consulting a mental health expert?

>>714666652 (OP)
>first complaint is about story
U gay. Just skip it. This is not a Kojima game where that's 90% of the game.

>>714667645
>>714667791
It literally is running in a circle around a claustrophobic ''room''' it is boring and non engaging for me.

> That gameplay approach grew on me.
It did not on me.
Who here is of my opinion?

>>714666652 (OP)
>they fixed it now
Played this on series x, the platforming, ledges & the launch pads routinely glitched out. The launch pad glitches were pretty funny admittedly, getting thrown out of the map made me laugh every time it happened. That plus tons of cutscenes would fail to trigger sometimes multiple times in a row after reloading a checkpoint.
Other than that I generally liked the game save for how the platforming & constant search for hidden upgrades slowed the sense of progression down, I just wanted to get back to shooting shit.
Some of the simon says use this gun on this enemy was a bit much with certain enemies, poison floors were annoying & I did not give a fuck about the story which insisted upon itself.
I liked the core gameplay just felt like everything else chipped away at the fun, in the end I like 2016 better because it was much more focused.
I heard the DLCs had a much higher concentration of the aspects I didn't like about the main game so never bothered with them.

>>714668348
>>first
It is the ZEROTH complaint
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zeroth

This means that it is BEFORE the first complaint.

>U gay. Just skip it.
Behold the doome eternal fag!
So you conclude that the story is shit. Can we agree here? Like everyone? See why this is the ZEROTH complaint?

>Just skip it.
There are parts of the game where this is literally IMPOSSIBLE !!!

https://youtu.be/2j2kMy17Dk8?t=123
This level is one glorified interactive cut scene that you can NOT SKIP.

>about story
Sorry that I cringe when the game drops this absolute trash of its fanficiton on me. Like sorry I will cringe when it says
>Satan is simply doom guy with red eyes
I CRINGE
>Actually the devil is the real god
I CRINGE

Maybe tell the writing team to stop writing this shit and post it on twitter or reddit and not animate it in the game?

And I have never cringed so hard at a story. Like the story is so cringe it actually hurts me.

Like when the game is basically some tribal retardation shit where literally a cliff is preventing your progress...
IN A UNIVERSE WITH SPACE TRAVEL!
Do these clowns not have helicopters? Like do helicopters and aircraft not exist for the humans?

>>714669274
>Played this on series x
I play on PC only sir.

> the platforming, ledges & the launch pads routinely glitched out
I write the ">they fixed it now" because the eternal defense squad would non stop shit
>HAHAHA Look at this! How can you not grab it!

Because I remember in the early build the wall magnetic lock on literally failed sometimes even if you slammed yourself with the air dash into it.

I remember the game being a fucken guessing game if the slayer will magnetically lock onto the special wall or if you needed to press USE.
Fun fact if it magnetically lock on then you pressing use before it will make the slayer let go and you fall to your death.

The game being shit like this for what 2years? Is not excused that now they fixed it, now after it is literally declared dead for this complaint to vanish.

>>714666652 (OP)
Filtered

>>714670050
>the wall magnetic lock on literally failed sometimes even if you slammed yourself with the air dash into it.
That happened sometimes as well but was way more rare than the other glitches. I don't know if these problems were ever fixed on xbox or if the glitches got reintroduced with the series x enhancement patches.
Either way they haven't fixed this version of the game & never will.

>>714669779
It's like saying a game is trash because the menu music is bad. It doesn't matter in a Doom game if it can be skipped.

>>714670628
>That happened sometimes as well but was way more rare than the other glitches
I remember this happening to me on PC.

I did not record every game play back then.
Sadly I lost the recording where the ghost dog glitches himself out and is not activating the lantern in TAG 2; fucken hilarious.

>never will.
Yep we got the final version of this shit.

Either way remember how the nu-doom defense squad tried to spin this as it being a you problem when the platforming actually glitched itself?

>>714670780
Look a payed shill or retard!

>It doesn't matter in a Doom game
WRONG! Stop shoving this shit into my face then!

>if it can be skipped.
Ye one walking level is literally exposition dump AND IT CAN NOT BE SKIPPED.

I swear the fanbase for this game is peak retarded.

>>714666652 (OP)

>>714666652 (OP)
I love how fags will say it isn't Simon Says yet when you git gud at it the core game comes down to swapping between the Ballista, SSG, and Precision Bolt. Maybe the Rocket Launcher from time to time. It is somehow both fast paced yet boring and somehow even more restrained than the base gameplay loop. Going from Eternal to 2 was unbelievably refreshing.

I also find it weirdly interesting how every single time you find someone zealously defending the game they just so happen to be fully/part taco on any platform whether it's here, Reddit, or YouTube.

>>714671234
>Going from Eternal to 2
What?

> zealously defending the game they just so happen to be fully/part taco on any platform whether it's here, Reddit, or YouTube

WTF is
>fully taco on any platform

???

>>714666652 (OP)
It’s incredible to me how many people got filtered by eternal and rush to complain on forums
>um I actually got every achievement
You didn’t, because otherwise you’d understand how great the game is especially on higher difficulty levels
Try getting good, I mean that wholeheartedly
>you just have to get good at a bad game lmao!!
It’s a bad game when you’re a bad player. The game works wonderfully when you bother to understand it and up your mechanical skill

>>714671391
Holy fucking ESL.

>going back to doom 2 after playing eternal

>many defenders of eternal are Hispanics south of the Texas border or are part Hispanic

>>714670803
>Either way remember how the nu-doom defense squad tried to spin this as it being a you problem when the platforming actually glitched itself?
They still do. I remember when I got lost the first time a cutscene didn't trigger which I didn't know was supposed to happen because it was my first time playing the game I looked up a walkthrough. It was recorded years after the game came out & he was playing on PC & doom guy refused to grab one of those poles that launch you up multiple times, just kept going through it like it wasn't even there. The guy complained about how janky the platforming is & there was tons of comments defending that shit saying his jump was off lol. Doom guys chest was touching the fucking pole & he just fell through it instead of grabbing it, how much closer does he need to be.
Despite the defense force around this game clearly enough people didn't like it that they stripped that whole precision platforming aspect out for dark ages.

>>714671580
>Holy fucking ESL.
OK BOT.


>going back to doom 2 after playing eternal
OK, got that as opposed to
>going back to doom eternal DLC 2 after playing eternal
You see why this can be interpreted in another way. However you corrected it.


>>many defenders of eternal are Hispanics south of the Texas border or are part Hispanic
Explain how
>fully [INSERT NAME HERE] on any platform

Translates to them being Hispanic. The sentence suggests that on any platform is talking about some behavior not their race!!!!!
Talk about ESL!

>>714671730
>dark ages.
IS that not a dead game?

I mean no one talks about it... Did it flop hard?

>>714671730
>It was recorded years after the game came out & he was playing on PC & doom guy refused to grab one of those poles that launch you up multiple times, just kept going through it like it wasn't even there. The guy complained about how janky the platforming is & there was tons of comments defending that shit saying his jump was off lol.
Where are they now?
I doubt Bethesda guy a entire YT bot farm to shittpost...

Where they retarded zoomers who never experienced a glitch and can not imagine it since their game did not glitch?

Zoomers who wanted to spew hate on others by glorifying this game?

Literally trolls who troll people with this game???

Where are these fags now?

PS: The greatest lose I did get in my life was losing the recording there the dog glitched itself and refused to jump into the lantern.

I literally checked the entire map for a demon who got suck and started shooting the dog.

However it turns out it is impossible for the dog to run when there are demons. So the dog simply glitched itself out with not way to continue.

>eternal
>game ends
What a fucking scam.

why are we bitching about which of the three mediocre nu-dooms is more mediocre instead of indulging in the best character action game in history

>>714672421
FIXED.
>>714671730
>It was recorded years after the game came out & he was playing on PC & doom guy refused to grab one of those poles that launch you up multiple times, just kept going through it like it wasn't even there. The guy complained about how janky the platforming is & there was tons of comments defending that shit saying his jump was off lol.
Where are they now?
I doubt Bethesda buy a entire YT bot farm to shittpost...

Where they retarded zoomers who never experienced a glitch and can not imagine it since their game did not glitch?

Zoomers who wanted to spew hate on others by glorifying this game?

Literally trolls who troll people with this game???

Where are these fags now?

PS: The greatest lose I did get in my life was losing the recording there the dog glitched itself and refused to jump into the lantern.

I literally checked the entire map for a demon who got suck and started shooting the dog.

However it turns out it is impossible for the dog to run when there are demons. So the dog simply glitched itself out with no way to continue.

Idk dude you writing an autistic essay that I didn't read will never make a fun game not fun

>>714672527
ESL at it again. Just put your prompts into ChatGPT like the rest of your kind does.

>>714672093
Yeah its dead because it doesn't have eternals platforming elements.
>>714672527
>Where they retarded zoomers who never experienced a glitch and can not imagine it since their game did not glitch?
Toxic positivity for a popular game, every time a game gets hyped by the masses any criticism about it is treated like kicking a puppy.

>>714666652 (OP)
>10 years latered and /v/ is still seething over getting filtered

>>714666652 (OP)
It was always good.

>>714666652 (OP)
>payed

>>714675221
>over getting filtered
I finished your retarded game on the hardest difficulty and others.

What am I getting filtered you dumb fuck?
It is a retarded shit game.
You run in a circle in a small arena or a claustrophobic one.

>>714673642
>Toxic positivity
The greatest evil of them all.

>Toxic positivity
I understand the payed shills/bots however are there retards who jump on to defend a retarded game?

Like WTF is the logic of these zoomeroids?

>/v/ Eternally seething because tortanicfags were denied their fix

>>714677329
>I finished your retarded game on the hardest difficulty and others.
I find it fascinating that you retards STILL haven't learned that this is not a good thing to say. It's been half a decade and you still haven't realized the flaw of this "claim".
It is fascinating how broken you people are.

It's up https://youtu.be/0T5CzioqV7E

>Bulletsponge enemies
>Unlimited respawning enemies
>Quick switch required
It's ass

>>714678620
>I LOVE NU-DOOM
>2h
Drooped.

>>714678891
>>Bulletsponge enemies
They die faster than old Doom's enemies.

>>714678891
>>Bulletsponge enemies
I have to disagree here

>>714678947
>They die faster than old Doom's enemies.
The problem is that nu-doom is literally
1) run in a circle in tiny arena run away from demons
2) pick the weapon that has the best pokemon advantage VS this demon
3) do some retarded switching weapons combos.

This is all after you make the 20 circle around this tiny room you get board to hell.

>>714671876
Anon… im ESL and even I understood the “going from Eternal to 2” sentence.

>>714679278
I don't care much for the switch combos either, but most fights in any FPS with a lot of enemies are just staying at the edge of the horde and picking off who you can.

>>714679278
>2) pick the weapon that has the best pokemon advantage VS this demon
Fun fact: there is only one type of damage affinity in the base game (the ballista's increased damage against fliers). Otherwise, there is absolutely no "this game is more effective against this particular enemy" until Old Gods comes out and introduces the spirits and stone gargoyles. And Old Gods was a disaster, even commercially, precisely because of this.

But sure, keep desperately screeching the same old disproven bullshit and proving us all the obvious fact that you never played Eternal.

>>714679432
>but most fights in any FPS with a lot of enemies are just staying at the edge of the horde and picking off who you can.
What? It is literally all running in circle and shooting the super demons while chainsawing the zombies to get ammunition.

>>714679579
And how are you taking on a big fight in old Doom? Staying around the outside of the mob and picking off layers of enemies.

DOOM Eternal would be a 9/10 so that Kaiser Campaign mod can be 11/10

Some of the best fights in video games period.

>>714679542
>until Old Gods comes out and introduces the spirits and stone gargoyles. And Old Gods was a disaster, even commercially, precisely because of this.
I consider the base game + DLC 1 + DLC 2 to be the entire game.

>spirits and stone gargoyles
WOW did a retarded fanboy finally admit that this is true?
Incredible.

>And Old Gods was a disaster, even commercially, precisely because of this.
Thanks for acknowledging reality!
(other eternal fanboys disputed this!)

>Otherwise, there is absolutely no "this game is more effective against this particular enemy"
Now this is wrong!
what about the sniper shot VS weak points??? You know gimping mancubus and the spiders?

No not happening?

How about Cacodemons literally being joke balloons who will magically swallow the grenade even if you are not aiming and their mouths are not even open to go into a retarded swallowing animation who then turns them into a instant glory kill?

Not in the base game?

I mean Cacodemons are a joke since even empowered Cacodemons die like this.

Only always using the same gun starts to feel repetitive and boring...

See how fucken insane and delusional you retards are?!

>he obvious fact that you never played Eternal.
I finished it all base game and all the DLC.
I mean you are one retarded fuck.

>>714671518
all OP characters have to do this
including Dante, Bayonetta and God Allmighty

>>714679663
>And how are you taking on a big fight in old Doom?
Is this chatGPT?

>And how are you taking on a big fight in old Doom?
The discussion was about NU-DOOM!

>>714679952
PLAY KAISER CAMPAIGN
IT HAS THE BEST ARENAS/MONSTER COMPOSITION/COMBATLEVEL DESIGN OF ANY VIDYA

>good gameplay
>challenging
>fast
>good graphics
>good music
>skippable story
what else do you want?

>>714680105
That part of the game is the same in the old game, it's the same in any FPS where you're fighting more than a few enemies at a time.

>>714680187
>>>challenging
Vanilla Nightmare is ezpz
Master Levels and Modded Levels are the only hard parts (TAG, Campaign and Slayer Gates are all 2ez)

>>714680187
Hot chicks.

>>714680068
>all OP characters have to do this
Remember the 90s?

Remember when the doom guy was a normal human who simply did fight the hoards of hell in a fucked up space station (also DOOM 3)?

Remember Duke Nukem?
The normal human who was fighting aliens?

There is charm in a normal guy fighting aliens who are 300% human strength and durability. Not a retarded MCU multiverse super reality giga cosmic gods who create multiverses by walking.

>Bayonetta and God Allmighty
Never played these games.

>including Dante
never played these games.for more then 1h total.

If you don't like Doom Eternal you are beneath me intellectually. Honestly just knowing this has saved me from wasting so much time on pointless arguments through the years. I wouldn't debate video games with a dog, why should I do it with someone who doesn't like Doom Eternal? The dog I can at least play fetch and go hiking with

>>714680039
>I consider the base game + DLC 1 + DLC 2 to be the entire game.
You are an idiot and intentionally lying about the game then.

>WOW did a retarded fanboy finally admit that this is true?
Nobody ever denied this. There are few that defend the decision, I don't understand why, and most who dislike it.
You are now inventing supposed "denial" about this dumb feature. That is how desperate you are.

>what about the sniper shot VS weak points??? You know gimping mancubus and the spiders?
Not a question of weapon choice. Also, it's called "locational damage" child, and it has been around for a while. Since I don't see you whinning about your favorite CoD game rewarding headshots, your argument is entirely moot.

>How about Cacodemons literally being joke balloons who will magically swallow the grenade
So... have you actually played the game past the first two levels? Because the caco nade strategy is absolutely AWFUL, objectively one of the worst ways to take them down after level 2. It's a minor crutch existing to allow level 1-2 to have greater enemy variety despite the still very limited player arsenal.

>Only always using the same gun starts to feel repetitive and boring...
Try playing the game on anything but the lowest difficulty and you'll find that you can't always use the same weapon anymore.

>See how fucken insane and delusional you retards are?!
Said the kid who claimed that EVERY BATTLE IN DOOM ETERNAL is decided by weapon affinities, then admitted that actually, that is only true of 2 enemies exclusive to the game's ill-fated and weak DLC's?

Really, child? Really?

>>714680227
>I can not defend my retarded NU-DOOM
I accept your unconditional surrender.

>>714666652 (OP)
if Doom (2016) had the more classic looking enemy designs from Eternal it would be the perfect Doom game
any mods to change the character models? They are so much better in Eternal

>>714680412
>If you don't like Doom Eternal you are beneath me intellectually.
Going full Rick and Morty fanbase I see.

>you are beneath me intellectually.
SAVED.

>>714680397
>>Remember Duke Nukem?
>The normal human who was fighting aliens?
as normal as batman

OP here, i'm trans btw and love The Dark Ages (reminds me of BBC and BNWO), forgot to mention

>>714668619
Not me

>>714680548
Sorry I forgot to refill your kong cone with peanut butter! I was in a hurry to get out the door for work

>>714678947
>Hellnight and Mancubus take more Plasma and Rocket damage than the original Doom.
Eat shit you lying faggot, I ron't even need to compare the game to the originals to call it shit.

It's awful design decisions one on top of the other, the only reason the game got popular was fucking Covid.

>>714682187
If you're just using 1 gun at a time, you're playing the game wrong.

>>714680676
>as normal as batman
Yep see Aliens.

>as normal as batman
So you want your MCU shit of universe ending gods who existed before time and are all powerful... multiverse .... omniversal.... multiverse destroying ... however they literally get destroyed by ledges, cliffs and normal human made weapons....

>>714666652 (OP)
>still filtered by the best Doom
Sad, honestly. You sound just like the idiots that can't into Sekiro.

>>714682187
>was fucking Covid.
Really?

I was thinking Bethesda somehow brainwashed zoomers into loving it.

>>714666652 (OP)
>payed
Is this an American or ESL problem?

>>714682408
>You are filtered if you finished the game and did not like it
LOL.

>>714682369
I don't know what makes it more obvious that you are a zoomer child desperately latching to retro-identity:
1) The fact that you act like Doomguy's personality every even remotely mattered to anything (and showing that you are clearly unaware of shit like Doomguy going on a hell rampage because they killed his fucking bunny).
2) the fact that you don't know who Duke was (e.g. you have no idea this was a character that had a fucking nuclear bomb implanted in his teeth at one point, and the whole plot of DN2 being literally about aliens trying to steal his brain because they know his brain is so powerful it would singlehandledly defeat are FAR-FUTURE-SET, time-machine-weilding humanity)
3) the fact that you are also unaware of characters like Kaleb, the undead, God-killing gunslinger who literally feeds on souls of those he kill, to a point where his power by the time he is facing Chernobog is rival to that ancient god, or, you know, or Lou Wang, you know, a literal fucking parody of every kung-fu and cyberpunk hero trope imaginable...

Seriously, kid.
How old are you really? How old was your father when Doom 1 came out? 6? 10 at the most?

>>714666652 (OP)
>1.1) FPS platforming
Im playing through 2016 and the worst part of it is the weird platforming sections. Idk why a sequel would want to double down on that

>>714666652 (OP)
>Now that the payed shilling of this game died can we finally vent how disappointing this game is?
>It is a incredibly mediocre and repetitive game.
You try so hard to be special, but your contrarianism just makes you even more of a sheep. You aren't special and never will be. Even on the internet, even on 4chan of all places, you amount to nothing.

>>714682943
I refuse to believe that joyless fucks like you played Eternal to completion and came out having a bad time.

>>714683131
Because it has much more emphasis on movement. And it doesn't instakill you for failing anymore.

>>714683131
>Idk why a sequel would want to double down on that
It's because Eternal puts a lot more emphasis on mobility and verticality in its core combat. The platforming is there to let you exercise that. Also, it is very different in Eternal. You have vastly more control, in fact it's kinda riddiculous. You can basically spend entire major encounters in Eternal without ever touching the ground, that is how much more air time and air control you have in it.

2016's platforming was ass because the movement wasn't really build to accomodate it. Eternal is fundamentally designed around that aerial aspect. Which means that despite being much more prominent, the platforming in Eternal is actually easier than in 2016.

It looks silly, and it does not add that much to the game if you are smart enough to realize how important air-time is to the combat. I guess it also does effectively help to pace the game, otherwise you'd genuinely be just going from an arena to an arena, so the platforming gives you some time to cool down.

It's by no means a great aspect of the game, but it also is by no means detrimental. It's kinda just... there, a very functional but otherwise unremarkable element of it.

>>714666652 (OP)
The DLC is completely retarded, I only really liked the first mission of the first DLC. The base game is fine though, very fleshed out experience.

>>714684040
>The DLC is completely retarded, I only really liked the first mission of the first DLC.
I think most of the Blood Swamps are fine too. I mean you can already see the core problem of the rest of the DLC kinda poke through in the Blood Swamps, but safe for one or two annoying encounters (both being mini-bosses), it's still at least interesting and not needlessly annoying.

The rest is bad though. I think most people will agree on that. The core problem is: they really, really didn't have any idea how to escalate from what the base game did.
The first level is fine because it's essentially just the same shit the final levels of base game were.
Blood Swamp is a series of one-off microchallenges, trying to restrain the player in some (sometimes more and sometimes less) creative or interesting way. I still enjoy it, but I think it's already showing the problem of "escalating" by taking something away from the player, which is never really satisfying.

The two genuinely bad moments of Blood Swamps (the first encounter with the Spirit and the final fight's slowing attacks) already illustrate the fallacy of their approach:
Removing player options does indeed make the game harder, but it does not make it more satisfying.

When these two features become regular and common gameplay elements, it all falls apart. And shit like the Stone Gargoyles and the other new enemies are just more demonstrations of the DLC's folly.

Eternal was good, but the combat system was already almost entirely exhausted by the base game. They just didn't have any ideas how to expand it, so in order to keep the challenge growing, they effectively started cutting away instead.

It was an awful, awful way to go and yeah. I frankly can't recommend the DLC to anyone, even those who liked the base game.

>>714680441
>Not a question of weapon choice
Look the fagot can not substantiate his retardation!

>Also, it's called "locational damage"
Funny that not the normal shots form the same gun or any other weapon can do that. Only 2 specific weapons....

>Since I don't see you whinning about your favorite CoD game
WOW talk about projection.
>your favorite CoD game
I never played COD fagot!

And the Cacodemons eating grenades and then being ready to glory kill is ????
>So... have you actually played the game past the first two levels?
The more you make yourself up to be superior the more comical you become.

>Because the caco nade strategy is absolutely AWFUL
Even for empowered Cacodemons ?
> is absolutely AWFUL

Post your gameplay then.
OH LOOK! NOTHING!

>but the lowest difficulty
I finished it on he hardest you dumb fuck!

> and you'll find that you can't always use the same weapon anymore
Are you retarded? The entire game even on hard is literally switching to the gun that gives you advantage.
Tell me how you can kill Cacodemons or eliminate guns on mancubus with the plasma gun and how this is more efficient then the sniper shot or grenade on Cacodemons .

>You are an idiot and intentionally lying about the game then.
Translation:
>HERP DERP MY MADE UP ARGUMENT IN MY HEAD!
LOL

>Really, child? Really?
Look more projection!

>EVERY BATTLE IN DOOM ETERNAL is
YES.
Tell me how the best way to dispatch marauders is not one of the known combos child? You can not use rockets on them dumb fuck!

>weapon affinities
No idea what this made up word is I was talking about the pokemon weakness. Who you admitted are real and then insisted you are right.

> that is only true of 2 enemies
Lets see
Green mancubus with blood punch...
Mancubus with sniper rifle...
Cacodemons with grenades ....
Revenant and sniper...
Spider and sniper...

>>714684838
>Look the fagot can not substantiate his retardation!
I actually did substantiate it, child.
How old are you?

>Only 2 specific weapons....
That is objectively false.
How old are you?

>I never played COD fagot!
I forgot, you are too young to care about cod. But I'm sure your Fortnite has locational damage too.
Really: how old are you?

>And the Cacodemons eating grenades and then being ready to glory kill is ????
I will refer you to:
>>714680441
>It's a minor crutch existing to allow level 1-2 to have greater enemy variety despite the still very limited player arsenal.
What year were you born in?

>Post your gameplay then.
I'm not a zoomer. I don't record my gameplay to beg for attention on social media like your generation does.
Is there something even younger than Zoomers?

>>714684838
>I finished it on he hardest you dumb fuck!
I will refer you to:
>>714678459
>I find it fascinating that you retards STILL haven't learned that this is not a good thing to say. It's been half a decade and you still haven't realized the flaw of this "claim".

>The entire game even on hard is literally switching to the gun that gives you advantage.
Since you haven't played the game, I don't understand where do you get the confindence in claiming that.
Are you even 18?

>HERP DERP MY MADE UP ARGUMENT IN MY HEAD!
>LOL
I don't think you realize how much you are letting us know about yourself.
Also: "made up argument in my head" says the person who claimed fans of doom deny existence of spirits, stone gargoyles etc...

>Tell me how the best way to dispatch marauders is not one of the known combos child?
One of the many combos? I've seen a good dozen strategies to take those cunts out. Again: you would understand if you had played the game.

How old was your father when original doom came out, child?
Also: parroting the world "child" does not work. Unlike you, I do not behave like a child. You can't just mindlessly repeat what your oponent said and think it will work.

>>714682992
>(and showing that you are clearly unaware of shit like Doomguy going on a hell rampage because they killed his fucking bunny).
I know. There is a thing called wanting to improve the past not dragging it down to a new level of shit.

>they killed his fucking bunny
Still better then NU-DOOM having a all powerful... multiverse .... omniversal.... multiverse destroying ... however they literally get destroyed by ledges, cliffs and normal human made weapons....

>2) the fact that you don't know who Duke was
I know. The First game is Duke 3D
>b-b-b- 1 and 2
Discarded before my time.

> fucking nuclear bomb implanted in his teeth at one point
Once again 1 and 2 are irrelevant. Also source needed.

>like Kaleb
OK.
>who literally feeds on souls of those he kill,
Source? Because that is not in any blood game.

> to a point where his power by the time he is facing Chernobog is rival to that ancient god
The what?

At best Chernobog was some rotting corpse animated by powerful magic not different from the frog alien boss in Duke 3D.

The bosses in blood are literally
>A gargoyle however he has stone skin
>Large spider
>Large dog with 2 heads
And then
>Chernobog
A corpse infused with powerful magic worshiped as a god.

>Lou Wang, you know, a literal fucking parody of every kung-fu and cyberpunk hero trope imaginable...
Still did not prove that Lou Wang is some all powerful... multiverse .... omniversal.... multiverse destroying ... however they literally get destroyed by ledges, cliffs and normal human made weapons....
Zoomer nonsense.

>>714684838
> Funny that not the normal shots form the same gun or any other weapon can do that. Only 2 specific weapons...
Not true. You can do it with other weapons, but it’s not as fast or effective, but you can do it. If you start firing your weapon aiming for the weak point you’ll see said weak point turning red from the damage until you break it. You can do this with any weapon, but as said it’s not as efficient like using a precision or explosive weapon against it. You can even use the rocket launcher to destroy any weak point within a single hit.

thread number is 714666652
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>>714685557
>How old are you?
35

>That is objectively false.
Break the guns on the mancubus with the plasma gun then.
I wait.

OH LOOOK """"objectively false"""" !
You lost the argument.

>>Post your gameplay then.
>NOOOO
You lost the argument. You can not prove this because it is impossible
>I do not
How about doing it now and recording it I wait.
>I do not
No one on the internet did it? No one?!

>How old was your father when original doom came out, child?
SILENCE CHILD you got debunked! You need a spanking now child! (this is me laughing at your retarded child meme)

>>714685943
>Not true. You can do it with other weapons
Do it with the plasma gun.

I wait
>b-b-b-b you can only not so fast
You lost the argument.
This pokemon SUPER EFFECTIVE only is possible with 2 specific guns.

>Herp derp you do not need to switch to the gun with type advantage simply shoot longer at the enemy.
Objectively worse strategy.

>>714686513

>>714685675
>I know. There is a thing called wanting to improve the past not dragging it down to a new level of shit.
You are unsurprisingly, completely missing the point there, child.

>Still better then NU-DOOM having a all powerful... multiverse .... omniversal.... multiverse destroying
Actually, none of that is true. I don't really care for Eternal's story (the fact that you do proves that you are a demented underage faggot), but I can already safely say that none of what you claimed is actually true, at least as far as Eternal is concerned.

Why are you such a compulsive liar?

>Discarded before my time.
Child, your time is literally this month. Every single game released before 2022 is "before your time".

>Once again 1 and 2 are irrelevant. Also source needed.
Jesus Christ child. Thanks for the laughs though.

>Source? Because that is not in any blood game.
We already established that you haven't actually played any game before 2022. No need to hammer that point down.

>At best Chernobog was some rotting corpse animated by powerful magic not different from the frog alien boss in Duke 3D.
Stop, kid. For fuck sake, you are killing me. Why do you do this?
Yeah. These games are too old for your FATHER to know them. But why do you insist on demonstrating that fact for all of us to marvel at?

Do you get off on humiliating yourself?
Pro-tip: look up what the word "Chernobog" actually means next time.

>Still did not prove that Lou Wang is some all powerful... multiverse .... omniversal.... multiverse destroying
None of that is true of Eteranl either, but again... what is the point of this shit?
Why do you go out of your way to make yourself look as awful as humanly possible?
Is this a kink?

>>714687130
Imagine loosing the argument so hard.

ME from the start
>You select the guns who give you pokemon advantages.

You:
>NOOOOOO

Me:
>I prove it with facts

You
>Yes I admit that

You:
>REEEE
>You are moving the goal posts!

>>714686256
>35
I meant in human years, not dog years, child.

>Break the guns on the mancubus with the plasma gun then.
Sure. This thread gave me a craving to play the game again, I'll be sure to do that. I am entirely sure I've done it with the shotgun, the rocket launcher, the ballista, the heavy machine gun and with SSG. I don't think I've ever done it with plasma, I rarely ever use that weapon to be honest, but... sounds like a nice challenge.

>You lost the argument.
Not really, no.

>How about doing it now and recording it I wait.
... once again, I'm going to ask.
How.
Old.
Are you?

why are eternal haters the most mentally ill people on this board? is the mental illness from getting filtered so hard? or were they filtered because they're mentally ill?

>>714687279
>that you haven't actually played any game before 2022.
AHAHAHHAHAAHA
Priceless.

I am laughing at your retardation right now.
>I don't really care for Eternal's story
Yet you are in a debate concerning the story....
You are retarded.

>None of that is true of Eteranl either,
Yet you are debating the story of Eternal...
>None of that is
https://youtu.be/DCDtUEGHqPs?t=855
https://character-power-scaling.fandom.com/wiki/Doomguy_(Doom_Slayer)

How do you kill god and also the devil who is god without being some multiversal power level?


>[I will not city any sources]
Thanks another debate I won!

>>714688648
>why are eternal haters the most mentally ill people on this board?
It's because these are people entirely and exclusively reared by social media. Social media literally rot your brain out, and the last generation were more influenced by those than they were by their own parents.

It's also pretty important to stress out that the problem with these people isn't that they were "filtered". It's the fact that they don't really play games to begin with. The negativity does not come from frustration with the game's challenge, but from fundamental obsession with "impressing" people online with their "edgy opinions". It's extremely visible from how every single thing they claim about these games comes exclusively from a handful of meme opinions based on trending tik-tok videos or whatever. The whole "mandatory weapon switching" being the most beautiful example. It's entirely, 100% based on the popularity of handful videos posted online by a very small group of people who really pushed the animation cancelling technique.

Since these poor kids never really encountered the gameplay outside of those handful of videos, they assume "that is you are supposed to play!" and build the rest of their opinion from there.

They haven't been filtered because they never actually spend enough time on games to experience that sort of things. They only know games based on what trends on twitter and other weaponized internet sludges of stupidity.

>>714689256
>I am laughing at your retardation right now.
We both know that is not true, child, so why bother with such a sad lie?

>Yet you are in a debate concerning the story...
Only when you are saying something that is very obviously not true.

In Eternal, Slayer is literally the guy from Doom 64 who was juiced up with Khan serum. I know they attempt to expand on that in the DLC's but honestly, those were crap, so who cares?

Also, some shitty youtube "analys" as evidence? Come the fuck on, child. Have some dignity.

/v/ is always edgy about video games. So i will buy this game and enjoy it.

>>714690265
>>714690265
>Le tik-tok
>Le you do not play games
>LE zoomers
>Le influences
>CHILD CHILD CHILD

Look it is child-fag!
I finished the game and have a extensive catalog of other games I finished.

You can not process this because you are trolling so hard it is comical.

>>714690634
>So i will buy this game and enjoy it.
Fun fact you will not because you are a shill bot and you have no money.

>>714690265
>The whole "mandatory weapon switching" being the most beautiful example. It's entirely, 100% based on the popularity of handful videos posted online by a very small group of people who really pushed the animation cancelling technique.
Translation:
>you can play 100% of doom eternal on the hardest difficulty never switching the gun you use. Only 1 gun all the time

LOL you fagots are comical!

>>714690905
>>Look it is child-fag!
Congratulations on figuring out that the guy who has been calling you a child this whole thread is indeed that person that keeps calling you a child.

I did look at the whole age thing, and apparently, in human years you are about 5.

So genuinely, I'm impressed with you figuring that out. But then again, your parents should be informed that you are on a 18+ site right now.

>>714691218
Oh child-fag never stop posting!

>>714691183
>LOL you fagots are comical!
Again, child... this has to be a kink thing, right? You actually gain some kind of pleasure from embarrassing yourself on-line, right? That is the only explanation for your behavior.

I probably should talk to a.. well, I wanted to say a psychiatrist about it, but considering your behavior: the correct answer is "you should talk to an adult about it."

I guess your parents are out of the question, considering your... existence they clearly don't give a fuck if you live or die.

So... Does your school have like a school counselor or something?

>>714691503
>CHILD CHILD CHILD
AHAHAHAHAHAHA child-fag strikes agein!

>Again, child... this has to be a kink thing, right?
Projection!

>>714667474
Can confirm
It's worse than just frustation of repetitiveness. It's the control wrestling that turns that frustration up ten times.

>>714666652 (OP)
Would've been great had they not locked you into arenas, oh well.

>>714667645
>For all the rage about COD I literally never played it like any of it! And I do not know anyone who plays it.

Third worlder spotted

>>714692220
There wouldn't even be a game without arenas. You'd be able to fly past everything and ignore it all.

Honestly I really enjoyed this game.
I thought it was pretty good for a Doom game? It had lore, backstory, some characters. It was all tightly controlled with direction and purpose. It was good. Was it mind blowing? No, but it was good. Like watching them have a little Skyrim moment. Yeah okay go ahead and top this. Good luck. You can't. It's fucked. Eternal was a "it's only down hill from here" moment. They accidentally bottled lightning and have no idea how to do it again. So now you got drivel like DLC nobody asked for, or actual bull shit like the WokeAges coming out trying to recreate the magic, but it can't.

I guess you could say.. It's DOOMED.
Ha ha ha ha!

>>714666652 (OP)
2016 was all right but eternal turned him into some fanfic which glazes him the entire time.

>>714692220
>Would've been great had they not locked you into arenas, oh well.
Not really. The entire core strenght of Eternal lies in it's encounter design. And that is only possible due to the extremely curated nature of those.

Whenever you like that concept or not is a matter of subjective preference, but in terms of actual game design, the arena's are quite literally necessary to make the game work. It's like asking for Deus Ex to remove the non-combat options, or remove the death penalties from Souls games: it does not work without it, it's quite literally core of the design.

If you want to play something similar without these locked arenas, maybe you should try Shadow Warrior 2. That was, after all, Eternal's biggest inspiration in terms of combat flow and mobility. Though that one has the weird spread-sheet management loot systems instead.

>>714691885
Look, if you get off humiliating yourself, all power to you. It's really not going to end well for you once people will have to stop excusing your behavior by your age, but... as much as I would like to help you, ultimately I can't. That is up to your legal guardians and superiors.

So by all means... carry on. You are only hurting yourself here.

>>714692220
>>714692342
>There wouldn't even be a game without arenas. You'd be able to fly past everything and ignore it all.
You mean like in DOOM 2 ? Where you can actually run and ignore all demons and finish the levels?

Pro Tip this style is incredibly hard and the shoot demons is far more easy.

>>714693437
>>714692220
>>714692342
>There wouldn't even be a game without arenas. You'd be able to fly past everything and ignore it all.
You mean like in DOOM 1&2 ? Where you can actually run and ignore all demons and finish the levels?

Pro Tip this style is incredibly hard and the shoot demons is far more easy.

>>714693437
You can't fly in Doom 2.

>>714693550
>You can't fly in Doom 2.
It was a metaphor you zoomeroid.
It means run past the demons.

>>714692630
>They accidentally bottled lightning and have no idea how to do it again.
I don't think any of it was accidental. In fact, if you can say one thing about Eternal, it's that it is extremely deliberate. They had very clear vision of what they want to do, and stuck to it, regardless of what people wanted or expected. That is what made it so damn good.

As for the follow-ups: Old Gods were garbage precisely because they had to figure out how to build up and escalate something that was already near perfect. Also, I'm sure a lot of stupid shit happened in the background.

And as for Dark Ages, I think the problem there was obvious. They decided to let go of their original vision and listen to the feedback more. They took pretty much every complaint that was leveled at Eternal, and decided to accommodate it - focus more on what people claimed they wanted, than on their own gut.

Also, there still was the problem that also affected the Old Gods, the question of "how do we escalate from Eternal", that no doubt influenced the decision to focus more general public feedback.

Also, "woke ages"? What the fuck? I don't think you played the game. I don't blame you: Dark Age is really pretty mediocre but "woke" it sure as FUCK ain't.

>>714678891
Lmao Just PB combo everything bro.

>>714672517
>tranny but plug game
kek

>>714666652 (OP)
I liked it
>but how can you like it when I gave all this heckrino analysis on it being shit!
I just like. Don't need to explain shit beyond that.

>>714679278
>2) pick the weapon that has the best pokemon advantage VS this demon
The shotgun/ballistia took care of everything for me.

>>714695493
>The shotgun/ballistia took care of everything for me.
Even the ghost?

>>714696016
One of the only exceptions. The autoshotgun for stone imps as also better too.

>>714680502
a-anyone?

This thread is filled with shitty contrarians

>>714696132
Thanks.
Like I was saying pokemon weaknesses.

>>714696820
And? I still had fun.

>>714696639
Eternal is a piece of shit
-weapon switching 300 times to kill a single bulletsponge isn't fun
-infinite chaff enemies isn't fun
-watching the same canned animations just to get ammo and health/armor 400 times isn't fun
-the platforming is ass
-the art design is cartoonish
-the lore is capeshit tier
-the pathetically small arenas are so bad the enemies completely break in higher difficulties
-Marauders, Phantoms, Rock Imps, Cursed Imps, Buff Totems, Prowlers and Poison Prowlers are all awfully designed
-the DLC is even more dogshit
This shit is tailor made for Bethesda redditors like you, and that goes for 2016 which despite being as shit as it was, was still better than the pile of fucking shit that is Eternal.
At least weapons actually did damage and one wasn't starved for ammo.

The game doesn't give a shit about your agency and even when you play it well, not only is it not fun but you get punished for it.
100GB of cancer, I'd rather replay 3 or even 2016.

>>714697593
And everyone did find it annoying and not fun.

>>714697593
And you're retarded
Simon Says just to justify an awfully designed weapon is objectively awful design.

It's ironic that you're having fun with stones.

>>714698237
I agree to everything you posted.

My only question is this:
WTF is wrong with the cancerous fanboys of this game? You can see one of them having a literal meltdown in this thread.

>>714698237
>-the pathetically small arenas are so bad the enemies completely break in higher difficulties
Yes, yes, child. You are very interesting and unique and super edgy and we are all very impressed with your collection of canned non-problems you copy/pasted from twitter. Great job.

Now, can you call your parents in for a moment? I need to talk to them about age-restricted websites and general on-line safety routines.

>>714698352
The weapon is good, and those enemies encourage you to use a weapon that is otherwise overlooked. Like when everyone ignored the microwave beam prior to the DLC.

>>714666652 (OP)
more like zoom shiternal

>>714698878
Not that anon
>Like when everyone ignored the microwave beam prior to the DLC.
LOL.
>Hmmm whats this a weapon we made is shit and no one uses it?
>hmmm
>I know lets make a special NEW enemy that has a pokemon weakness to this weapon FORCING the player to use it!
>BRILIANT!
>WE WA WA why is everyone saying our game design is forced and restrictive!

>>714699093
And it taught me to try out the microwave beam in other fights, and I ended up liking it more than the heat blast.

>>714698585
>Doomworld trannies
>Bethesda redditors
>Covid
And just like that you get one of the biggest cancerous tryhard fanbases ever created.

>>714698628
Shut the fuck up cockbobbler
Finished it all twice on Nightmare by the way
It's fucking shit

>>714698878
>The weapon is good
>Which is why the devs made an enemy that pretty much only dies to it
You're as dumb as a nigger holy shit

>>714666652 (OP)
It's a great game, the best of nuDoom trilogy and one of the best FPS ever made.

>>714699585
>t.

>>714700181
Hugo would say TDA is the best one, thoughever.

>>714700316
>It's a great game, the best of nuDoom trilogy and one of the best FPS ever made.

>>714700413
I look like that and I say that.

>>714699413
>Finished it all twice on Nightmare by the way
I will, once again, refer you to >>714678459

It is genuinely fascinating that you people keep posting this canned reply every single time, and you STILL haven't figured out why it does not work.

Stop. Stop child, and for few seconds, actually contemplate what you just said. It's really not that hard to figure out that every time you say this, you immediately render anything that you said moot.

Can you see it?

>>714700490
>>714700481

>>714666652 (OP)
>ITT we see shitskins vs shitskins arguing in choppy broken English
>"No saars, it is you who are the child"
>Ctrl+F "child". 36 results
>"Please, saars, can you not do the needful and see?"
I fucking hate brown people so much.

>>714700736
Where did you get all those photos of me? I don't remember ever posting them.

>>714700854
Your life is already over, child. It ended the moment you responded to this thread. You will be found guilty for felony harassment. Enjoy prison.

>>714666652 (OP)
Playing Eternal made me realise that all these webms mocking its combat are true. At least I didn't pay for this game since I was given its Steam code by a guy who got it with his new GPU.

>>714701071
It's way worse, because both the shotgun and plasma rifle are absolutely fucking useless and the BFG is so rationed it might as well not exist.
So you don't even get to use the whole arsenal unlike those quick switch webms.

>>714700736
You seriously want that to be your answer?

>>714701470
>both the shotgun and plasma rifle are absolutely fucking useless
They have their uses.

>>714701993

>>714702117
On what? Infinite chaff? Contextual rarely used shit like Gl gulping Cacos which are more easily killed with a Ballista and SSG combo without having to wait on the invincibility frames of that shitty animation?

There's fuckall uses to the point the devs try to force you to use either gun in the even more poorly designed DLCs.

>>714701470
>It's way worse, because both the shotgun and plasma rifle are absolutely fucking useless
The shotgun is fantastic for taking off enemy parts, and plasma is very good for Hunters, and straight up negates close-quarter ambushes by Knights and the like, priceless when they corner you.
Plus it's generally very versatile. It's not very fun, which is why people generally don't use it much - it's just "meh" in terms of gunplay and it rarely excels, where as most of the other guns are very specialized and excel once you learn to use them properly, making the plasma fall behind. But it's absolutely not terrible. It just suffers from the exact same problem most low-damage bullet-hoses suffer from. Even Blood had its tomy-gun. It's kind of a no-win scenario. Low-skill players generally want their simple to use rapid-fire bullet hoses, but once you get to know the game better, it will almost always fall behind, because it's main niche is being a crutch for newer players, it will inevitably have a problem scaling up.

And since most of the weapons in the game are great, it's not that much of an issue to have a runt, I can't really think of any good shooter that would not have that issue at one point or another.

>>714702724
>On what? Infinite chaff?
Yeah, why not? A sticky bomb after burning a group of fodder is efficient.
I use sticky bombs for the turrets too because it's easier to shoot 2 of them than it is to switch between the ballista and PB.
The microwave beam is handy for stunning an enemy for a second and making an opening. My favorite application for it is to freeze a pinky for a second so I can blast it in the back and not waste a blood punch.

>>714666652 (OP)
And the "biggest sperg of the day" award goes to...

>>714667027
>a MEDIOCRE doom would be one that is completely destroyed and barely resembles doom in any way
let me guess you also think a score of 8/10 means average

>>714699413
>Doomworld
I have no idea what this is.

i prefer games where your aim matters so i dont like this game at all
the hitboxes for the enemies are so big
no wonder this game was released for consoles

>>714699413
>>Covid
What is the covid theory?
Nothing to do so zoomers started worshiping eternal?

>>714700490
You have actual schizophrenia.

>>714701071
>At least I didn't pay for this game since I was given its Steam code by a guy who got it with his new GPU.
Next time pirate it before you buy it.

>>714704369
What makes you say that, child?

Is it because the idea of shitting desperately on a game while also claiming you spend dozens if not hundreds of hours on it finishing it on various difficulties, including those that even most people who do enjoy the game don't really touch does not seem unsound to you?

>>714699413
>Doomworld trannies
>Bethesda redditors
>Covid
Explain to me why we sill have eternal fanboys who still keep on going and arguing like this to this day.

>>714698272
>literally everyone had this issue
I dunno buddy sounds like you're the minority there.