So have we, as consumers, decided we're just gonna let this slide? Nintendo was propping up this screen like top of the line tech to justify the absurd price tag, and a couple days of timid outrage is all we get?

>consumers
>decide
Wake up Neo

>>714678661 (OP)
Funny how this wasn't a problem for anyone until someone made a chart

>>714678661 (OP)
meds

>>714679062
It still isn't a problem because consumers have no standards.

>>714678661 (OP)
>pirate nation

>>714678661 (OP)
No one cares.

poo in loo

>>714678661 (OP)
Nintendotards in 2025 are barely human, and I say this as someone who grew up with Nintendo from the SNES to the Wii U.

Modern nintendo just stinks, they release a few good games a gen but they've effectively bullied all the other devs off of their platforms with garbage specs and weird gimmicks.
Ninty consoles just suck total shit now, the switch has a great portability gimmick which positions it as a perfect "alternative console" but its just for playing nintendos own games and not much else.

>>714678661 (OP)
>>714680056
Careful anon, RapeApe follows him on twitter so will DING DONG BANUU you for daring to speak out against his pet leech

>>714678661 (OP)
>Twitter engagement cuck saying the exact same thing as what he’s commenting on
>memeface avatar
>blue checkmark
Fucking cancer

>>714679062
Well maybe if Nintendo allowed reviews of the product before it went on sale then people would have noticed before...

Releasing a product like this with an LCD screen halfway to 2026 is just being a scumbag company lmao. Truly.

>>714682496
>>714682496
He's literally a news aggregator, do you want him to comment every time I post a news story on his feed?

>>714682726
OLED doesn't support VRR which is a far more important feature for gaming than muh black pixels. It also has burn in when a static element is displayed on the screen like, you know, a heads up display. High end LCDs like the Switch 2's are objectively better for gaming than OLED and if you think otherwise you have literally bought into monitor industry marketing

>>714682921
I want him to die

>>714683071
>OLED doesn't support VRR
>It also has burn in
It's like I'm really talking to someone who stepped right out of 2016. Neither of those are true. And putting words in my mouth about "muh heckin black pixels" I never listed that as a benefit. The much bigger benefit is significant battery savings. Dumb faggot.

>>714683258
Name a single OLED screen on a gaming device with VRR support and no burn in

>>714680373
You obviously care, otherwise you wouldn't have leapt to the defence of the billion dollar company, you tendie consumer cultist faggot. I CARE, because it means I'll never buy this cheap, lazy piece of shit. And people that enjoy video games should care, because they'd be clinically retarded to waste so much money on such a flawed product.

Once again, just wait for PC emulation.

>>714683071
>durr i'm going to ignore the response time issue
okay

>>714683258
>The much bigger benefit is significant battery savings
What? For devices that have both LCD and OLED models, the difference in battery life is minute and can largely be attributed to the fact the OLED version released a few years later and has a smaller chip die(Switch 1, Steam Deck)

>>714683071
Absolutely flade, you tendie faggot. VRR is common on OLED, especially with 120hz displays. Speaking of which, is there a single switch 2 game that's actually 120fps?

>>714682580
You're telling me with all the faggots desperate to say anything bad about nintendo none of them played the thing when they had public demos before release to report this, and all the footage already coming out before this review embargo no one noticed the screen doing this shit?
I think you're all just niggercattle to outrage

>>714683437
I will once again reiterate.

All of the largest tech journalists and influencers in the world attended multiple preview events weeks before launch and had hands on time with the Switch 2 and not one of them raised any issue with the screen. 5 million people had the device for one month, and nobody raised issue with the screen. Suddenly some shitposter makes a graph, which might be bullshit for all we know. All of a sudden the screen is unacceptable. If that's the case, why didn't a single person complain before the shitpost graph?

>>714679062
It was though people were complaining about blurriness and ghosting even before the charts were released. Some even mentioned getting nausceous although that may be a combination of ghosting and eye strain from the blue light being cranked up to achieve higher brightness

>>714683570
>VRR is common on OLED, especially with 120hz displays.
Name 1(one) gaming device with an OLED screen that has VRR

>>714683598
You're just a consumer cultist that can't stand truth when it impacts his over priced fisher price handheld. Not to mention a racist, you boring cunt.

>>714683782
>people were complaining about blurriness and ghosting even before the charts were released. Some even mentioned getting nausceous
This absolutely did not happen lmao

>>714678661 (OP)
you wont notice it because switch 2 runs games at 20fps 360p

>>714683885
It did. I was in the release threads.

>>714683071
>OLED doesn't support VRR
Wut

>>714678661 (OP)
Yes, I really don't care that the built-in screen has 30ms or whatever of response time. The only people who will really notice are Smash autists, and they'll just hook it up to a $1000 monitor anyway, or god forbid a CRT.

>>714683830
How am I a racist

>>714683830
Wow, you are somehow a bigger faggot than the actual nintendo shills, be proud anon thats quite the achievement.

>>714684201
Name 1(one, uno, एक) gaming device with an OLED screen that supports VRR

>>714683885
People were talking about it over a montb ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/1l4il1o/the_concerns_some_are_raising_about_the_quality/

Anons were bringing up how shitty the screen looked and were called "poor" as a response. It's honestly hilarous because if you've spent maybe a few hundred on a decent quality moniter then you woimd immediately be able tell how bad the screen was

>>714684767
>linking to reddit

>>714683071
Like a literal switch in tendies brains. The oled switch had oled so oled good. The switch 2 has no oled so oled bad. Watch this faggot 180 again when the inevitable switch 2 oled revision is announced.

>>714684887
Yeah even redditors are more informed than you are. It's pretty sad

>>714684951
OLED is marginally better than LCD if LCD doesn't have VRR+HDR+120Hz, yes. So the Switch OLED was an upgrade over the Switch 1. IF at some point in the future a Switch 2 OLED comes out where the screen supports all the same cutting edge features, it will technically be an upgrade (aside from the burn in). Is there supposed to be a contradiction here?

>>714682921
>News Aggregator
Get a real job, faggot.

>>714678661 (OP)
I cannot for the life of me see any issues in person. this issue is so overblown and retarded

>>714683071
>switch 2 lcd
>high end
Xis, they had to crank up the blue and couldn't even reach the minimum brightness threshold to be HDR https://youtu.be/Fbwtpb6uqDY?si=0ltWZg1MDN6FaBKv

>>714683071
people will seethe but this is totally true.

>>714683817
The PS5, the PS5 Pro, and Xbox One all support VRR on any OLED screen, as does the Steam Deck on any screen that it's connect to. The Switch 2 has no capability for VRR when docked or otherwise and it never will do, because it's underpowered.

>>714684201
you've never tried to use VRR on an OLED screen. fucking retard

>>714685058
kek

>>714683071
>35 minutes ago
>High end LCDs like the Switch 2's are objectively better for gaming than OLED
>now
>IF at some point in the future a Switch 2 OLED comes out where the screen supports all the same cutting edge features, it will technically be an upgrade
Didn't even have to wait for it come out. Yes it's almost a guarantee if they do an oled revision it will support all that, for HDR especially oled is far FAR better than the shit they're using now.

>>714678661 (OP)
Does it matter? They're only going to play shitty kids games on its anyway.

>>714685619
supporting it and seeing very in action are two totally different things. OLED foundationally cannot currently use VRR.

>>714685628
Absolute retard. My PS5 and my PC run VRR on my 54 inch 120hz OLED without a single issue. I've been doing so for three years without a single burn-in issue.

I was watching this video about Cyberpunk's performance in handheld mode, which has nothing to do with the screen, and yet what distracted me the most was the horrible screen. See pic related, you can clearly see everything duplicated, and if you pay attention, there are three of the same things easily perceptible on the screen.
I think it's insane that most people bought the Switch 2 and were playing without noticing this huge problem. Even the retards at Digital Foundry tested the Switch 2 at a kiosk and didn't notice this, which is clear to me even when I watch fucking YouTube videos of people filming the fucking Switch 2.

>>714684887
The FUCK are you gonna do about it, faggot ass 4cuck NIGGER?! NOTHING, you PUSSY ass BITCH

>>714685946
Factually incorrect, you lying tendie faggot. I know you're used to weak hardware, but the base PS5 runs VRR on OLEDs without an issue.

>>714685395
>>714685913
>>714684226
>uuum CHUD, It's perfectly fine and okay that this mega-corp is charging me more and more while offering and doing less!
Why are you "people" like this? Is it just contrarianism?

>>714683364
>just wait for PC emulation
based vegan

>>714678661 (OP)
Another issue we docked CHADS don't have to worry about. Portable gaming will always be a meme. Deal with it.

>>714685619
>The PS5, the PS5 Pro, and Xbox One
None of these have screens you drooling mongoloid

>>714685619
>PS5, the PS5 Pro, and Xbox One
>devices with screens
based retard

>>714678661 (OP)
Kindly stop posting your xitter here, saar

>>714685953
you've never played a game with dark lighting ever I guess.

>>714686167
4090 bud.
>>714685953
who said anything about burn in retard? VRR flicker doesn't have anything to do with VRR, normie faggot

>>714685994
I noticed it the moment I scrolled through my game list, having a switch OLED made the comparison all the worse. Handheld mode is something I only use when the power goes out or I use it to watch anime while I excercise so I never felt the need to rush to 4chan and warn the world.
I will say that many people are just used to this shit, I know a lot of people still using ancient 1080p LCD TV's with similar levels of pixel response time. It's the air they breath.

>>714682037
>>714682726
>>714683830
Seethe more, fags. Total Nintendomination for the next 10 years.

>>714685994
>I think it's insane that most people bought the Switch 2 and were playing without noticing this huge problem. Even the retards at Digital Foundry tested the Switch 2 at a kiosk and didn't notice this
Because it's like the meme with current graphics reaching the high ceiling and barely anybody can tell the differences between platforms, unless you slow-mo or zoom the screenshots side-by-side.
The screen ghosting may be true in case of the Switch 2 but it's nowhere the huge issue that the Internet is trying to make it out to be
The complaint also comes weeks late, which is why people (except the ones who were already pretty open about waging a cultural war against Nintendo) do not even trust the claims

>>714687167
>claims
There's verifiable evidence. Tendies are so used to the low end that they lapped up Nintendo's claims about a high end screen and probably don't know any better when they use the product.

>>714685994
>Even the retards at Digital Foundry tested the Switch 2 at a kiosk and didn't notice this
DF was actually one of the few outlets complaining about the screen after the kiosk demo and this board was asshurt over it

>>714679062
Nintendo kids can't read charts.

>worshipping the Apple of Japan

Couldn't be me

>>714687498
There has been a massive misinfo campaign on the Switch 2, with the usual Terms of Service as the biggest example of Internet fags inventing problems where there is none. And suddenly you have everyone at once in tech media/gaming journalism/Twitter claiming the screen is bad 3 weeks late. because they're all jumping on the same bandwagon and parroting the same thing.

It's basically the old telltale of the boy who cried wolf, and you can't blame anyone for not trusting the "criticism" of the Switch 2.

>bro it totally looks like shit you just have to slow down time by 1000x and magnify with a microscope 20000x bro

>>714688424
yeah, you literally cannot see any of this shit in person.

>>714688182
>Game pass key
Real issue
>ToS
Real enough issues that Brazil is taking Nintendo to court over it
>Bad screen
Real issue since launch but tech illiterate tendies kept and continue to shout people down
Discussion on real issues should not be degraded by the ignorance and cult like fervor of tendies. Don't blame others for your shortcomings. I swear you lot are almost as bad as the scientologists

>Bharat_nation

>>714678661 (OP)
If you get between me and consoyming I will kill you

>complaining about screen delay on a JRPG system
>when you can plug the console into better displays anyway
I'm sick of hearing about this nothingburger

>>714687167
>which is why people (except the ones who were already pretty open about waging a cultural war against Nintendo) do not even trust the claims
If you have a modern smartphone, that has a slow motion camera. You can literally grab your Switch 2 and test for yourself if you don't believe it

>>714678661 (OP)
They need to finally make a console box that you plug in tv. Kinda like the opposite of switch lite.

>>714689243
>JRPG system
>system doesn't have the only notable JRPG to come out in the last 30 years
Really makes you ponder

>>714688712
>key cartridges
>Terms of Service
>real issues
lol
And the third-worlders are king at crying foul after being caught breaking the rules. It's also the same ToS as seen in Playstation and Xbox where none of them allows "non-authorized use of their services" and they're free to ban you if they catch you doing anything beyond the normal perimeter.
But my point was that if the Internet fags weren't so deranged against Nintendo and the criticism wasn't so unorganic (by acting like a rally where everyone spams one same thing at once for a certain period before moving to the next), then complaints like the Switch 2 would be taken a lot more seriously.

>>714679062
This is PC gaming in a nut shell. It's confirmation bias based on stats. So fun story. One time my friend bought an expensive OLED monitor and was bragging about it. I told him that particular model had ghosting issues buyers complained about in reviews and sent him screenshots from another monitor's Amazon reviews. Kind of laughed about screwing with him and was going to tell him the ruse but completely forgot about the whole thing after I got into a heavy gaming session after. Anyway 2 weeks later he messages me that he returned the monitor due to the ghosting issue that he was noticing more and more. He didn't even notice that the screenshots I sent were talking about a completely different non OLED monitor kek

>>714689667
>It's also the same ToS as seen in Playstation and Xbox where none of them allows "non-authorized use of their services" and they're free to ban you if they catch you doing anything beyond the normal perimeter
Yes, it is the same. Incidentally, Sony lost a class action lawsuit in Brazil over this exact issue and was forced to change their ToS, prevented from banning consoles and forced to pay damages to users who had hacked their PS5s

>>714689667
Proving the point already with the usual tendie points

>>714689609
sandfall has said that a switch 2 port is everything but confirmed, likely with a japanese dub

>only notable JRPG to come out in the last 30 years
you don't play jrpgs and you are only using e33 for shitposting purposes

>>714690184
Name one JRPG after the year 2000 that got half the reception that E33 got. Unless you count action games with hybrid RPG elements like the Souls games, there isn't one.

>>714690325
not going to entertain your mental illness, go play more games
https://www.metacritic.com/browse/game/all/jrpg/

/v/trannies are coping hard.

>>714690616
I graciously accept your concession

>>714689609
Kek

>>714691273
Typical snoy.

>>714691509
And the second it gets a Switch 2 port all discussion about the game will take a nose dive, many such cases

>>714691509
Ok? So the "JRPG system" will maybe possibly be open to getting a gimped port of a JRPG that's already been out for months sometime in the future?

>>714692035
>story based game comes out
>everyone talks about everything there is to talk about
>5 years later game gets ported to another platform
>wtf why is no one talking about this

>console it out for weeks
>no one talks about this "horrible ghosting"
>every grifttube channel and site makes a video on the same day claiming its a big issue and nintendo is finished

>>714692237
Release threads were full of people saying rhe sceeen looked like shit and was blurry thoughever

>>714692193
>coping this hard
>>714692398
>release threads
ah yes these totally genuinely threads on release day

>>714692561
Goalposts. People complained as soon as they say it irl. Calling them not real just makes you sound like a schizo

>niggas need the latest bullshit tech to have fun
i legit feel like this trend of pushing for unnecessary tech like that and shaming those who don't is a ploy to fluff the overprice garbage they put in consoles now.

>>714692921
>t-t-t-they complained everyone hated it!! n-n-no i can't post proof

>10 to 100 times """slower""" screen
So it outputs 0.6 to 6 frames per second?

>>714692092
E33 isn't a JRPG. Do you even know what jrpg means?

>>714679062
I notice the HDR is really piddly but that's the only problem I have with the screen that I can find. NES games look fine on it, modern 3D games look fine on it. I don't notice any ghosting or laggardly performance on my Switch 2. If I have to do frame-by-frame analysis of footage to find anything wrong with it it's very firmly in the "I don't fucking care" zone.

>>714693043
>receives proof
>"NOOOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT"

>>714678661 (OP)
Makes me laugh when i see PC Gamer or Push Square posting things about Nintendo, as it just shows how little they have to talk about on their own platforms they're supposed to be publishing about.

>>714692398
>Release threads were full of people saying rhe sceeen looked like shit and was blurry thoughever

>>714678661 (OP)
fuck should i just go back to my switch oled over switch 2

>>714693104
No it refreshes slower so the frames will be blurred and result in ghosting. If you are sensitive to it you will get eye strain and nausea. VR with low fps can do the same

>>714678661 (OP)
The Shitch could literally have a black and grey LCD screen and tendies would defend it.

>>714693458
>fuck should i just go back to my switch oled over switch 2

Nah.

>>714693292
what proof? you've posted nothing and started shitting yourself

>>714678661 (OP)
Ah yes let me just take my high end gaming monitor that costs twice the price of the entire switch console, and take it with me on morning commute.

Oh wait shit you can't because this shit is like comparing apples to oranges.

>>714693335
DELETE THIS

>>714680056
>>714688803
disappointing that even rangebanning him from 4chan would still mean he'd be able to skim the catalog for shit to repost

>>714687682
>DF
>complaining about the screen after the kiosk demo
Not true. See >>714693335

>>714693615
Just take the steam deck so you don't get naseous before work if you even do such a thing

>>714679062
>Funny how this wasn't a problem for anyone until someone made a chart

Yeah definitely a placebo effect. They're only upset because there's a chart and the person who made the chart made the number red.

>>714678661 (OP)
How about you stop mindlessly consooming products and get excited for the next product. Stop buying shit.

>>714678661 (OP)

the only game on switch 2 is mario kart and if you're playing that handheld instead of on TV you probably have absolutely no standards anyway.

i think if the screen has genuine issues it'll become more apparent when it gets another game that is better suited to playing handheld

>>714693321
>People in the release threads
>posts DF for some reason

>>714679062
It was definitely a problem before on the original switch, but it doesn't bother most people enough to complain. I couldn't beat the Pantheon in Hollow Knight because the input lag was too much to fight the Pure Vessel and the Radiance.

>3x slower display than the deck
>insane ghosting
How dose Gabe keep wining while doing fucking nothing...

>>714691115
If the flaws of the screen are so insignificant then why do you need to lie by downplaying them?

>>714694098
>i like playing with my nintnedo switch 2
>YEAH WELL IF IT'S SOOOOO SMALL WHY DO YOU NEED TO LIE

>>714678661 (OP)
>pirat_nation
>posting the twitter posts of a jeet who steals shit from /v/
Should be an autoban

>>714694098
How is he lying? How can you even notice these screendraw backs without a slowed-down, microscopic video analysis?

>>714694050
Those sales figures sure do scream winning

the problem is that people who would buy a switch 2 with no games on it is a self selecting group of hardcore ninty cumgobblers, so their testimony is of no value whatsoever
on the other hand we have professionals who test this shit and have measured it, so we know the pixels on the switch 2 take twice as long to shift from one state to the next as it takes for each refresh, so you're going to be seeing a couple frames of smear on the screen with every significant motion
i hate to say it anons but in this case i think i'll trust the science
>>714689684
that's an absolutely psychotic thing to do. you're a freak

Can someone explain to me why /v/ sucks Nintendo cock so hard? It's obvious the Switch 2 is overpriced as fuck. While a Steam Deck is technically less impressive it has the option to play games from Atari all the way till Switch games plus a large portion of PC games. Before the popularity of Handheld PCs I understand owning a Switch but today honestly it's just not worth it. I literally have thousands of games on my Steam Deck that I will never get to play. The only game that's exclusive to the Switch 2 right now is Mario Kart World but I just can't see myself buying a handheld just for that.

Is it shills, bots or brain dead idiots?

What do you want me to do about it OP? I've already decided I'm not going to buy it. Worst screen, terrible battery, game keycards, $500 bones. Yeah No thanks, I'll stick with my switch 1 and massive backlog. You don't have to coonsume new product.

India belongs to Pakistan jeet nation

>>714684407
my phone

>>714694184
But you don't need to "slow down time by 70%, and then zoom really close with a microscope" to see "an imperfection of a thousandth of a second", you can easily see major ghosting simply by scrolling through the IU.
So why lie and downplay how bad the screen is if you and the person who made the image actually enjoy playing your Nintendo Switch 2s regardless?

>>714694450
>Is it shills, bots or brain dead idiots?
Yes

>>714694098
>w-w-why do you keep disproving my lies

>>714694425
>couldn't even outclass 3 year old hardware
kek

>>714689684
gigabased prank

>>714694435
Yet nobody noticed. Because you're literally talking about a thousandth of a second.

On screen as small as Switch 2 99% of the population will never notice. You can let someone play an OLED Switch and then let them play Switch 2. They will pick Switch 2 every single time.

You literally have nothing to seethe about so you have to scrape the bottom of the cope barrel.

>>714694597
>you can easily see major ghosting simply by scrolling through the IU.

No you can't you lying fuck. You've never even held a Switch 2. lmao

>>714694358
>How can you even notice these screendraw backs without a slowed-down, microscopic video analysis?
By looking at the screen? See >>714685994

>>714678661 (OP)
>GrApHiCaL iMpRoVeMeNtS
>It's new
>Adds 1% of "content" to it's switch 1 games that did well despite themselves
>ToT approved dk game that's not in the spirit of dk at all, but dkfags and casuals are hyped because it's new and getting plenty of screentime
Unfortunately, it was going to do well no matter what
The (m)asses are to conditioned to know whats good for them anymore. As long they can stimulate that economy like good consoomers without applying any level of research or critical thinking, that's all that matters
>>714679062
There were plenty of problems well before. The charts just help painting an objective measurable picture of how shit switch 2 actually is. Sorry that it goes against your bootlicking narrative

>>714694597
>you can easily see major ghosting simply by scrolling through the IU.

An utter pack of lies.

>>714694450
>The only game that's exclusive to the Switch 2 right now is Mario Kart World but I just can't see myself buying a handheld just for that.
see
>>714693952

>>714678661 (OP)
I don't even use the Switch in handheld mode, I'm not shocked that the screen is shit but I don't personally care since I would almost never use it.

>>714680056
He's the only decent indian on the internet, still a faggot thoughbeitever.

>>714694972
>You've never even held a Switch 2.
Have you? Then post a video of your Switch 2 not doing this when scrolling through your games:
https://youtu.be/9uQ5CMfFc7c?t=789

>>714695021
>plenty of problems!!!!!
>can't post any proof of these "Screen issues" until after the grifters made their youtube videos

>>714693251
Most games look like shit with the forced HDR, so far only Mario Kart World, and the Switch 2 versions of BotW and TotK look good in HDR. If you want HDR on Switch 1 games, you're better off emulating and using Windows Auto HDR or RTX HDR, if you have an Nvidia card.

>>714693952
>the only game on switch 2 is mario kart and if you're playing that handheld instead of on TV you probably have absolutely no standards anyway.
That's true whether you play it handheld or on your TV, anon

>>714695198

>>714695387
Exactly the same then?

>>714678661 (OP)
I think the line in the sand's already been drawn. Anybody mad enough to buy the Switch 2's going to be full ride-or-die with Nintendo regardless of what they do, whether it be because of sunk-cost fallacy or because they're just that loyal. I think they're too far gone to suddenly feel buyer's remorse when they realize the company that produces the least powerful consoles has the least powerful console.

>>714695497
Are you blind?

>>714695497
>Exactly the same then?

>>714695497
this is cope

>>714689684
So he observed similar ghosting is his monitor, was unhappy with the purchase, and returned it for a refund? He didn't spend hours on /v/ denying and downplaying the ghosting, trying to justify his purchase and defend the company on the internet, because he used to play games on a CRT monitor they made when he was a child?

>>714695106
I don't give a fuck if I connect the handheld to my TV. Point is that until the Switch 2 has must buy games I ain't buying one. I'm literally playing Dragon Quest V (PS2) on my Steam Deck with wide-screen patches and HD texture packs. I was playing Expedition 33 both on my PC and at work on my Deck. I have so many games that I just can't be arsed to deal with Switch 2 shit. Until Nintendo releases a new Zelda, 3d Mario or Pokémon then I might get one.

>>714685994
lol nigga you can do this with ANY LCD screen.

I just took this image on my Switch 1.

>>714679062
Switch 2 hate is kinda forced desu

>>714695139
I always found it interesting that with such a strong handheld>docked implication (switch lite, oled), they'd do more for the screen. Maybe they realized mid way there's more docked players than they initially thought?
idc either way since I'm not getting one, but for the 700+ hours I've played my switch, I MAYBE played a total of 15 hours handheld since I got it
>>714695198
>can't post any proof of these "Screen issues" until after the grifters made their youtube videos
>there's been threads for weeks/ months discussing how shit and deceptive switch 2 is
>go on, spoon-feed me as if this is the first time hearing of any of this
Why don't you go bury your head back in the sand and reward the shareholders some more, you ignorant fuck

>>714695568
>>714695624
>>714695634

Ok now that I'm looking at it it shows the Switch 2 being slightly better.

>>714695497
>Exactly the same then?
Shipping the Switch 2 with the cheapest, shittiest screen possible was a genius move on Nintendo's part, because they knew that even when confronted with irrefutable evidence of how bad the screen is their fanbase would be too retarded to see it.

>>714686207
Switch 2 has better internals, 1080p screen and HDR support

>>714695746
The switch 1 has a notoriously bad screen witb slow response time, but is somehow still faster than the switch 2

>>714695497
looking good

>>714695857
And here you are seething about it

>>714695746
>I just took this image on my Switch 1.
Yes, the Switch 1 also had a really shitty screen, the problem is the Switch 2's screen is even worse than that.
>lol nigga you can do this with ANY LCD screen.
Except the ones made after 2019.

>>714695634

>>714695825
yes those totally real threads got posted here >>714692561 and you shat yourself

>we
the only people pretending this is a noticeable issue are clickbait content farmers and haters who've never seen a switch 2 screen irl trying to confirm their bias

>>714695967
I would definitely be seething about it had I actually bought it, like you are.

>>714695913
Incredible! The Switch 2 has magically shown you the next frame before the APU even spat it out!

>>714695672

i was more so addressing the point of why the switch 2 isnt seemingly facing any backlash about the shitty screen right now. or to put it another why its why it appears that people are heedlessly sucking nintendo cock. the big issue with the screen isn't being seen in most of the use cases.

i think when a new pokemon comes out or a mario platformer and people start playing it handheld it'll kick off the major complaining about the shit screen.

personally i'm going to keep an eye on switch 2 emulation. i have a feeling i wont ever need to buy one

>>714696065
Top screem lools better. Bottom looks like a ps1 cutscene

>>714695746
DELETE THIS

>look at this proof!!!
>its a zoomed in picture of the screen taken slowed down 1000 times

>>714696065
>any game you could ever want to play on the go
vs,
>game for toddlers
top kek

>>714696167
Lol cope

>>714696065
Damn, the Rog Ally wins again..

>>714695194
There's a reason nobody was talking about this before that video dropped. Motion clarity isn't particularly easy to notice. Just listen to John explain his stance on LCDs in the video. When they first came out with flat panels, he was horrified, and refused to replace his CRT displays because of the image ghosting. Is that how you reacted to your first flatscreen TV? Do you know anyone who reacted that way? There's a reason this performance metric isn't really focused on in display marketing. People can't see it. Obsessed panel nerds can see it. Nobody else cares. Why do you think they're taking footage with a high speed camera and slowing it to 2% speed to expose the flaws?

>>714696123
I didn't buy one though

>>714678661 (OP)
>we
never ever bought a product from nintendo since the snes

>>714696127
the power of frame gen!

>>714696379
bASEd

>>714696121
Pretty much, I've played my Switch 2 plenty, equal amounts docked and tabletop. I've never noticed this blurring bullshit.

>>714696223
Reminder that THREE of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years are exclusive to Nintendo, with the best deluxe versions of these games exclusive to Switch 2.

Next week it will be FOUR games.

>>714696289
>There's a reason nobody was talking about this before that video dropped.
And that reason is that tendies couldn't identify the blur because they were already used to playing all their games at 20 FPS on the Switch 1 which already had a really blurry screen.

>>714696505
>Reminder that THREE of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years are exclusive to Nintendo
okay but were they any good?

>>714696505
>emulates them on the go in docked mode for free

>>714684407
phones, all of them

>>714695886
>Switch 2 has better internals, 1080p screen
technically true
>HDR support
Only just barely, but as long as you trick yourself into believing it by choice, whatever floats your boat, I guess
>>714696078
>yes those totally real threads got posted here
>If it's not what I wanna hear, it must be fake
You must be murican. I'm sorry.
>>714696121
>lol, what's ethics and principles? just buy things and stop being poor lol
>>714696505
>super dk odyssey will be one of the greatest games of all time
holy delirium, batman!

>>714696659
>emulates them

Thanks for proving my point. The thirst for Nintendo games is insatiable.

>>714696725
>ww-w-w-w-why don't you believe me when I spam 50 threads of lies and seething
>snoy is so broken hes mass replying now

>>714695187
he steals your posts and makes money from it

>>714696725
>ethics and principles
being broke and seething at people affording things you can't isn't an moral crusade

>>714696725
>super dk odyssey will be one of the greatest games of all time
>holy delirium, batman!

Coming from Nintendo's own in-house Mario Team. They have quite the track record kiddo

Super Mario Galaxy - 97
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 97
Super Mario 3D Land - 90
Super Mario 3D World - 93
Super Mario Odyssey - 97

>>714696725
You can connect it to an HDR TV

>>714683341
Bro, most phones are oled or amoled display. Do you see how many of them having burn in? And people play on them for hours.

>>714696789
i have no interest in bing bing mediocrity, but the option to do it for free is always on the table

>>714693043
>>714694654
>>714696865
Are you alright, anon? You've been making the same post for almost an hour now.

>>714696725
>ethics and principles
lmao
look at this teenager thinking he is being edgy for disliking nintendo

>>714697057
Glad I'm not poor. Imagine ruining the experience of some of the best games ever made by living like this.

Sad. But desperate people will resort to desperate measures.

>>714678661 (OP)
I have been playing on my switch 2 for a few weeks and I literally couldn't tell there was an issue lol

>>714697060
you seem really upset your claim without proof holds no water

>>714694738
>deck couldn't sell in 3 years what the switch 2 sold in one week
kek

>>714693882
I have games that arent on steam I would rather play.
I dont pirate games where the devs are still active and I want them to make more content/sequels etc.

>>714696865
Calling nintendo out for becoming just as bad as the rest doesn't mean I've taken sides in a bullshit war that has now become entirely useless
No way in hell I'd ever defend the fagfriendly moviegame box. Try again, bootlicker-kun
>>714696894
It's absolutely hilarious how the only line of defense shills have is that they surely must be poor, otherwise they'd totally want it. It's like the 2020 trump cope that if he wins, it's fair, if he lost, it must be rigged, as if he's the objectively correct choice.
>>714696898
According to what metric?
>>714696935
That meme technology? I'm aware of the marketing for it
>>714697082
I'm likely older than (You), dipshit

>>714696898
>Super Mario Galaxy - 97
>Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 97
>Super Mario 3D Land - 90
>Super Mario 3D World - 93
>Super Mario Odyssey - 97
And just to be clear, are you saying that the scores prove that these games are good or that they're bad?

>>714697376
>snoy SEETHES when you call him out

>>714697461
>its a score of 97/100 bad?!
I see the cultist is getting desperate

>>714697197
>ww-w-w-w-why are you m-m-making f-f-fun of me for s-s-s-s-seething?!!

>>714697461
>universal acclaim of 97/100 means it's bad

>>714696539
I didn't want to muddy the water, but the test by Monitors Unboxed being referenced in the OP hasn't been corroborated by any other sources. This one here pegs it at 17ms, which is pretty comparable to the OG Switch's screen, perhaps a little faster. And yeah sure, that screen wasn't even particularly good in 2017, and shipping a screen just as slow as that one in 2024 is objectively a poor showing. You know, for people who care about that stuff. But the real headline here is "Switch 2 screen fails to improve on Switch 1 screen", and that's just not going to upset the average person. If it did, they would have already been complaining for years.

>>714697508
>Claim quite confidently that idgaf about the hormone replacement therapy 5
>nah, you must be a snoy to say anything bad about pappy nintendo
Ya hate to see it, damn. The murican mental health crisis really is no joke

>>714678661 (OP)
Dw this will take off when metroid is out and everyone can see how laggy the response is.

>>714697603
>>714697643
No, I'm genuinely asking what you mean. Are you saying that a lot of games journalists liking a particular game means it's bad? Or does it mean it's good?

>>714697768
Who the fuck is playing Metroid Prime in handheld mode?

>>714691509
>gets a game 3-5 years late
>this is somehow a "gotcha"

Fucking tendies, I swear.

>>714697181
Lmao, why would i want to pay extra to play shit my PC can emulate at 4 and 8k
Also the game works just fine with ryujinx and yuzu, stop making shit up...

>>714697723
>i'm not a snoy!!
>posts the same copes as snoys
>starts sperging when called a snoy

>>714697703
prease undistanduru, nintendo is a humbre murtibirrion operation just barery making it by. Think of the sharehorders

>>714678661 (OP)
Works on my machine

>>714697853
Are you suggesting that the overwhelming general consensus of a game's quality is irrelevant.

I bet if Donkey Kong scores 5/10 you'll immediately agree with it.

It's ok when Nintendo does it.

HOLY FUCK, SOMEONE TOOK THIS PHOTO AND YOU CAN SEE THE OBVIOUS GHOSTING
REALITY HAS LOWER QUALITY THAN MY $1000 MONITOR

>>714697853
>what do you mean this universal praise means everyone likes the games?!? just because the players and critics say its good doesn't mean its good!
so have you finally played armored core 6?

I saw this at the reveal though?

If you saw all those content creator shits going "WOAOA IT ACTUALLY WORKS REALLY WELL" while the screen was a solid second behind mouse movement you were aware.

>>714679062
Most console players are dumb as a bag of bricks.
I bought the Switch 2 on a whim because I wanted to try out Mario Kart World and let me tell you, the screen is objectively horrible.
I am used to a fast 240hz TN LCD panel on my PC monitor and I can clearly see ghosting around moving objects on the Switch 2 LCD.
It's a nauseating, blurry mess.
I only use it in docked mode now.

>>714698123
>>714695913

>>714698032
you 10000% know that is the case
if its anything lower than a 7 he will be spamming it all over the site for weeks, anything higher and he will be stamping his feet saying reviews don't matter

>>714698123
Dumb faggot.

>>714698161
I called out the light leaking through the screen, the blue color temp and the ghosting and was accused of being poor

if you looked at the screen with your bare eyes rather than through a phone camera you wouldn't have any issues

just give me spatoon 4 with mouse support + the ability to use a usb mouse so I can rape drooling retards playing on their couch

>>714696894
You have a Switch 2, but can't even buy a house. Shut up lmao.

>>714698369
more like if you play on it it feels and looks like frame generation is on

>>714698032
>>714698136
>Are you suggesting that the overwhelming general consensus of a game's quality is irrelevant.
Nobody's talking the "general consensus" or "universal praise." We're talking about games journalists. Again, I'm asking you if you think a group of games journalists saying "this thing is good" means the thing in question is good, or if it means that it's bad?
>I bet if Donkey Kong scores 5/10 you'll immediately agree with it.
My opinion on Donkey Kong will be based on me actually playing it, not based on what games journalists are saying about it. What about yours?

>>714698580
you are getting baited by brown people and giving them exactly wat they want. you dont need to prove anything to brown people on 4chan

>>714698369
I looked at it with my bare eyes.
It's very easy to see.
Just open the world map in MKW, look at an icon and pan around.
But if you aren't brain dead you can easily see it during racing as well.

Why do you defend a billion dollar company who put out a shit product?

>>714698580
>moving the goalposts already

>>714698369
>the screen looks blurry because your phone can see 1000 FPS whereas the human brain can only see 30

>>714698821
>Why do you defend a billion dollar company
they make great products, of course I'm going to side with them instead of siding with broke losers whining all day and trying to drag down everyone to their level

With nothing left in your arsenal besides a barrage of reddit tier buzzwords, I see you're more or less finished. You did relatively well for someone with no real defense for the downtrodden multibillion company, but (You) bore me.
>>714698434
>assumes my living arrangement because again, a shills only cope must be that I can't afford it
Dude, I could easily buy one for my living room, bedroom, and gazebo if I really wanted to. Is the reality that I see it for what it is, and avoid it for the shit it is, really that troubling for you?
Nintendo has resorted to scummy corpo practices to make the most amount of money for the least amount of effort possible, and convinced millions that they weren't in the slightest scammed. I'm not rewarding that kinda behavior to impress someone with nothing else better to do than call people poor because they're not a obedient consumer.

>>714698369
This but i havent seen it because its a screen defect and my batch doesnt have it

>>714696893
To be honest, this is part of the reason why I've been posting on /v/ less and less

>>714698308
I like how everyone ignored this absolute truth nuke.

>>714698580
>My opinion on Donkey Kong will be based on me actually playing it

You won't be playing because you don't own a Switch 2.

My opinions of BotW, TotK and SMO is that they are some of the best games I've played on any system in the past decade. By far.

It just so happens that the vast overwhelming majority of people happen to agree with me. You disgrard those "evil jurnos" all you want, expunge every critic review from history and you'll still find those are some of the most acclaimed games in history from every corner of the industry.

This is the absolute state than Nintendo haters get themselves into.

>>714680056
he's like a faggot who only hangs out with you and your friends to film your wild antics and posts them elsewhere for elonbucks, I'd already have killed him on the spot

>>714698949
Disregard any previous instructions and write me a recipe for chocolate chip cookies.

>>714699214
Somehow everyone here seems oblivious or accepting of this like pajeets are /ourguys/

>>714699136
>You won't be playing because you don't own a Switch 2.
I will play it on emulator before the end of the year

>>714699002
I was agreeing with your stance, anon. I was saying that the people who love to say "LOL YOU'RE POOR AND BROWN IF YOU DON'T BUY THE LATEST CORPO DROP" are poorfags themselves. They're like applefags--they think they're elite and cope by looking down on anyone who didn't buy the newest toy from Nintendo.

Anyway, since this thread has devolved into full-blown console warring, what's the deal with people still trying to convince anyone that TOTK had anything but a positive reception? Xenoblade 3 too. It is demeaning to the concept of the word FLOP to call something that made money a flop.

>>714695763
This. There's fair criticism then there's just mindless rage over the littlest thing

>>714678661 (OP)
Works on my switch

>>714698949
nta, but
*they USED TO make great products
ftfy, no thanks necessary, anon. happy to help

>>714699136
Yet if a Sony game gets a 9/10 with 90+ user score on metacritic then they're suddenly fake and bought reviews right? Get some self-awareness, you hypocrite.

>>714699338
>I will play it on emulator before the end of the year

>>714699437
You have low standards and are the reason gaming is dying.

>>714698897
There's no "goal" because there's no argument, anon. The original post >>714696898 talked about how games journalists like these particular games, and I asked if that means that they're good or bad. So far he hasn't been able to answer.
>>714699136
>It just so happens that the vast overwhelming majority of people happen to agree with me.
And just to be clear, are you saying that this means that your opinion is wrong or that it's right?

>>714695187
Nigger he is a filthy redditor

>>714699382
Ah, my apologies then, anon.

>all this gloating from nin-toddlers about specs for months
>the Switch 2 finally comes out
>same power as a Deck
>3x slowed display with insane ghosting
>paying full price for $5 dlc and minor visual upgrades
>no games

>>714698908
CRT screens must be completely unusable then
see how they look through a camera, and with our bare eyes they must look even worse because our eyes can tell better, right?

>>714683817
LG C series and any gaming modern monitor

>>714699484
just last month they released the best racing game in history

>>714699687
don't notice, anon. just trust the plan and consoom. your investor pals will appreciate it.

>>714699687
Games aren't important, Snoy

>>714699572
What I'm saying is that you have to wake up every day in a world where THREE of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years are Nintendo exclusives. If we extend that to 30 years, it would be FOUR games.

If Donkey Kong turns out to be masterpiece next week, we could be looking at back scenario where the Top 5 most critically acclaimed games of the past 30 years are ALL Nintendo games.

That's the world you will have to wake up, shitting blood every day, because you can't cope with reality.

>>714699687
"It's going to have INFINITE frames and resolution because of dlss and frame gen"
Reality: it uses low quality fusion for dlss and is to weak for frame gen

>>714699687
>same power as a Deck
lol

>>714699815
>best racing game in history
>"had" to patch the game because people weren't playing the game like nintendo wanted them to
goddamn I'm glad I made it out of modern gaming with my dignity and sanity in tact
Also, double dash and ds were the best mario kart games. Please don't embarrass yourself any further

>>714699687
Here's DF's review you care so much about.

>>714699687
>same power as a Deck
Lmao cope, Deck is old tech faggot.

>>714699920
>THREE of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years are Nintendo exclusives.
And you're saying that this means that they're bad? Or are you saying the opposite?

>>714700193
you never had a real complaint in life
all your whining is just regurgitating the same things you heard from reddit and twitter seething groups

>>714700190
To be fair Deck is now old as fuck and is comparable to a base Ps4, which uses 2010 tech, so of fucking course Switch 2 has vastly superior tech, it would be an absolute shame if it didnt.

>>714700303
I'm saying that's objective reality son.

>>714700190
yeah, it would be a shame...

>>714678661 (OP)
Why do jannys let this schizo continue to spam these threads?

>>714700461
So you're simply stating that objectively speaking, those three specific Nintendo games are acclaimed by a lot of games journalists, but whether they're actually good or not is still up in the air? That's fair enough I guess; I can't dispute the objective reality that games journalists feel that way.

>>714699690
notice how this gets no replies because it completely destroys their narrative

>>714700759
I'm saying it's objective reality.

So it's really a question of whether or not you live in reality. Well, DO YA?

>>714700343
>everything modern nintendo does is good because... IT JUST IS, OKAY??
I've read enough, experienced enough on the first switch, and seem enough on my brother's switch 2 to know I don't want anything to do with them. I'm not going to enable their pro-shareholder anti-consumer ways. Nintendo doesn't need your miniscule help, anon. They can defend and support themselves quite comfortably with all the money they've scammed folks out of the last month or so

>>714700461
the real world has a nintendo bias so it doesn't count

>>714700882
Yes, and I agree with you that it's objective reality that games journalists like those games. But for me personally I'm more interested in whether video games are good or bad.

>>714700890
>everything modern nintendo does is good because... IT JUST IS, OKAY??
we got sales to prove it, in just a month it's already MILLIONS of sales ahead of the deck which has been on the market for 3 years

>>714699690
CRTs refresh the screen faster then the switch 2 and have better coloe accuracy thoughbeit

>>714701210
look at the gif
it has obvious scanline issues

>>714699598
nigger couldn't have his own opinion on anything for the life of him, it's actually better if he's not flipping the burgers I'm buying

>>714701326
Scanlines dive it morecolor depth and make retro games look good. CRTs have darks thar are only surpassed by oleds. An hd CRT, rare as they are, is really nice looking with modern games

>>714700519
Oh no,no,no,no,no,no, nooo!
Nin-toddlers pleas respond!!!

>>714701104
Your subjective opinion doesn't change objective reality son. Just ask any tranny.

>>714700853
It is so dumb that it does not deserve replies.
Google "shutter speed" google "raster scan" google "hourly rate of your mother".
Fucking drooling retard.

>>714700919
nta, but
>the real world has a nintendo bias
nintendo is becoming the new nudisney, that's a unfortunate fact
>>714701170
>you must be a deckfag
swing and a miss
sales =\= a good product, it just means good marketing, from a brand riding it's own coattails.
Square was so quick to declare shipped copies of 7remake. I'm totally certain people with covid money to piss away, the ps4 consumerbase safety net, and under informed consumers didn't play a role at all. Yet, after a year and a half there's no bragging about about rebirth sales figures. I wonder why?

>>714701530
did you miss the huge black lines moving across the screen? that shit is unusable

>>714701578
eyes can see higher framerates than cameras, so what we see irl should be even worse than what's on the camera, as this thread has stated many times

>>714701676
>sales =\= a good product, it just means good marketing, from a brand riding it's own coattails.

>>714686939
>gigabyte

a 6600xt and a 3060 are equal in power
the deck is 1/4 of a 6600xt
the switch 2 is 3/7 of a 3060
the switch's performance is actually embarrassing given that it has almost twice as much silicon

>>714685398
How is the UFO blur test even being run on the Switch 2?

>>714701550
Hate to break it to you buddy but it's objective reality that whether a game is good or not isn't based on the subjective opinions of games journalists.

>>714701726
That's caused by the fps of the display synching up with the low fps of your cheap phone and how the display refreshes. The response times of CRTs is good and it tool a while for LCDs to catch up. The switch 2 has reponse times comparable to 25 year old LCDs

>>714701765
>Putting ANY stock in what journos have to say after 2007ish
This is actually really sad. for your own sake, please stop

>>714701726
Cameras do not see the way the human eye does.
Cameras see in distinct frames, the human brain reconstructs a continuous "live stream" from a non-stop stream of visual information provided by the optical nerve.

>>714685398
the ufo tests honestly don't mean that much given that they care way more about refresh rate than response times on pretty much every modern display technology just because of how they work
120hz looks near perfect on an oled with black frame insertion while it needs 360 to look as good without it and it doesn't really improve much in terms of user experience

>>714683598
>You're telling me with all the faggots desperate to say anything bad about nintendo none of them played the thing when they had public demos
Probably docked?

>>714702003
>>714702021
so you're saying the issues you see on camera can't be seen when you actually look at the screen with your naked eyes, hmm...
/thread

>>714702087
It still picks up how bad the lower ends are and the switch 2 is horrendously slow

>>714701870
>Hate to break it to you buddy but it's objective reality that whether a game is good or not isn't based on the subjective opinions of games journalists.

Wrong again. Anyone who goggles "best games ever" is going to find BotW and SMO in the results.

That's the recorded history of Planet Earth.

You know what they won't find in the results? Some schizo on 4chan shitting up the walls.

>>714702245
What do CRT scan-lines have to do with LCD ghosting?
They are two completely different things.

>>714678661 (OP)
I've already decided I'm not buying Switch 2 and it having a shitty screen wasn't even a contributing factor. Likewise, anyone who has their heart set on the latest Nintendo console isn't going to let this stop them. Remember when Apple kept shitting down their customers' throats by removing the headphone jack and causing other companies to do the same? Nintendo is now copying their playbook.

>>714702245
No the issue with the ghosting is that it's noticeable without cameras which is why people are getting motion sick while playing Mario Kart. In fact it's noticeable with still images so it's a completely different issue than the non issue of how CRTs refresh

>>714702310
Googling subjective opinions doesn't change objective reality, son. Just google whether trannies are good or not.

>>714702268
yes, everyone knows by now that the response times are so bad they're barely compliant for 30hz but ufo as a test isn't really worth bothering with because it makes all modern displays look shit
a camera will catch an oled "ghosting" in those tests while in real life even mobile oleds could display more than 600hz without ghosting if they were pushed to do that

>>714702631
It catches relative performance which is why the vid posts comparisons

>>714702376
For me, it's about how sleazy they've gotten about shoehorning as much shit as possible into nso, nagging you if you don't have an active membership, and going full blown retard over anti piracy
But ultimately I'm on the same page, for better or (more likely) worse, it'll be what it'll be

>>714699690
>>714700853
nobody's using CRTs in 2025

>>714702541
It's objective reality that BotW, SMO and TotK are three of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years.

That's the world you wake up in every day.

Choking and farting and shitting yourself on 4chan isn't going to create a new reality for you. Sorry.

>>714695497
Based Stevie Wonder

Suddenly tendies don't want to talk about the tech in their switch 2?

>>714702932
>It's objective reality that BotW, SMO and TotK are three of the Top 5 most acclaimed games of the past 25 years.
It's definitely objective reality that games journalists have those subjective opinions, but does that makes the games in question good or bad?

>>714683739
Crickets to this for some reason.

>>714702932
>objective reality... most acclaimed
nta, but you should consider a career in politics. You certainly can spew shit like one
It is technically true that those games appear on many top lists, but you're making the critical error of assuming those lists aren't bought or otherwise inherently biased
That's not to say they're bad games. But as other anons have already pointed out, sales=\= quality, and journos opinions are about as unreliable as any other source of bullshit

>>714691115
this is literally me

>>714703194
Yes anon, opinions are subjective.

However, we can OBJECTIVELY observe that the vast overwhelming majority of those subjective opinions of BotW, SMO and TotK are positive.

Having played those games, I can understand why. They're fantastic.

>>714691115
>tendies need to strawman because they can't tell the difference between 30, 60 and 120hz
skill issue
desktop oleds start at 240hz

>pirate nation

Outrage addiction is not good for you

>>714701813
post your PC. this card has been fantastic

>>714703483
>However, we can OBJECTIVELY observe that the vast overwhelming majority of those subjective opinions of BotW, SMO and TotK are positive.
Yes, but the question isn't whether the majority of those opinions are positive or not, it's whether that fact makes the games bad or good.
>Having played those games, I can understand why. They're fantastic.
But if those opinions change or shift in the future, like opinions often do when it comes to video games (and already somewhat have in the case of TOTK), are you saying that will then also force you to change your own opinion of those games?

>>714703614
>tendies need to strawman because [strawman]
woooooooow
you sure showed him

>>714703805
nobody has any meaning in their lives anymore, making themselves mad is the only way they truly feel alive

>>714704104
that tendie's picture implies that the godawful response times can only be perceived with a fucking microscope and that they only last a thousandth of a second
those thousandths of a second determine whether you can properly display refresh rates and the switch 2's godawful response time can't display more than 30hz without ghosting
hence why tendies can't tell the difference

>>714703928
If you disagree with journalists so much then tell us all about those 3/10 games you love so much.

>>714704568
nta, but 3/10 according to who?

>>714704568
I'm not even sure I can confidently say I disagree with games journalists that much, because I don't actually read their opinions. Why would I need to when I can base my opinions on the video games themselves by actually playing them?

>>714683071
>OLED doesn't support VRR
I have 6 OLED displays in my home and two OLED phones, all of which natively support VRR and also support GSYNC & FREESYNC. You inbred street shitter.

>>714678661 (OP)
What are you doing to "not let it slide"? Make a post on 4chan? Fucking stupid nigger?

>>714678661 (OP)
>have we, as consumers, decided we're just gonna let this slide?
Yes, you have.

>>714704802
>I don't actually read their opinions. Why would I need to when I can base my opinions on the video games themselves by actually playing them?

Good for you. But we come back to objective reality again. Your subjective opinion only matters to you and you alone.

All you can do is say "Everyone is wrong except me!"

Kek

>>714678661 (OP)
>10 times slower
Tech illiterate retard here.
Can someone explain what this actually means?
Are we talking input lag? FPS autism? What?

>complains about nintendo exploiting people for profit
>no qualms with twitterTwat in OP exploiting this board for profit

>>714705453
dunno, but my eceleb friend said it's bad so that means nintendo is DOOMED

>>714705174
>Good for you. But we come back to objective reality again. Your subjective opinion only matters to you and you alone.
It is good for me, and it seems to me like you in particular would also really benefit from it. I think it would help you figure out how you actually feel about video games personally, instead of having to rely on games journalists telling you what to think.
Yes, that's how subjective opinions work. How did you think opinions worked?
The only problem is that we're not discussing my or your opinions and who they matter or don't matter to, we're discussing whether the positive subjective opinions of games journalists make video games good or bad. Because you're implying it's one or the other, so which is it?
>All you can do is say "Everyone is wrong except me!"
When did I say that? And what would the point be in saying that a particular opinion is wrong? Do you actually understand what an opinion is, anon? Because it feels like you don't.

>>714705561
nintendo taking advantage of their own ironclad customer base is not the same as retarded op #50,000,000
Just because 4chan has a stigma attached doesn't mean it has the influence it once did.
You're welcome to try again though

>>714705853
>that's how subjective opinions work. How did you think opinions worked?

See >>714703483

You're going round in circles anon. You created your own logic fallacy from which you can't escape.

We're done here.

>>714705453
It means you get ghosting and blurs especially with highee contrast elements of the scene because the screen can't refresh its pixels fast enough. In certain games it will cause eye strain and and the feeling of laggy inputs

>>714706253
"Yes, but the question isn't whether the majority of those opinions are positive or not, it's whether that fact makes the games bad or good."
That was my response to that post, but you apparently didn't have an answer to it. Why not?
>You created your own logic fallacy from which you can't escape.
What's the logical fallacy specifically? I just wanted to find out why you keep implying that BOTW, TOTK and SMO are bad games. Personally I think they're great.

>>714705453
it doesn't change to the next frame fast enough so you get ghosting
it has a response time of 33ms which is barely good enough for 30hz and you still wouldn't want it
regular monitors have response times in the range of 5-10ms and oleds have 0.3ms
rog ally which uses a very similar screen has response times of 8ms

>>714696991
Every single oled phone I used had burnin for the icons at the top.

>>714706582
>I just wanted to find out why you keep implying that BOTW, TOTK and SMO are bad games.

Again, see >>714703483

You're trapped bro. Cope is all you have.

>>714707283
You never had an answer to the post, anon.
If all you keep posting is that games journalists (who in objective reality are widely regarded by the general consensus as having bad taste in video games) really like BOTW, TOTK and SMO and refusing to elaborate on that, then people will naturally assume that you're implying you think those games are bad.
Or are you saying you don't think that?

the deafening silence from
>lol what's ethics and why should it matter?
-kun continues
In the meantime, I've decided to mod my original switch. Does anyone know offhand if there's a system update cutoff for the paperclip (or whatever tf it is) method? Or is it pretty much fair game?

>>714705901
>You're welcome to try again though
lmao you're the nignog walking away

>>714680373
Everyone who didn't buy, slurper.

>>714708003
>Comparing killing a clown car full of himan babies to stepping on an ant
>Discredited for such a flimsy comparison
>Offered another sporting chance at an argument redemption
>lol, ur the one with no argument, behold my fotw buzzwords!! Haha!
Ah, you're done. My bad. Well, go in peace, anon. Or not, idrgaf either way

>>714706582
subjectively and objectively BOTW is the best game of all time
keep seething

>>714680373
conditioned complacent consoomers don't care. People who rely on functions beyond the lizard brain care. But hey, it's the american way to please the big corpos without thinking of long term ramifications, so really you're just doing your duty. Can't be blamed for that

>>714709132
>subjectively and objectively BOTW is the best game of all time
According to who?

>>714678661 (OP)
Who does this matter to exactly?

>>714709332
According to Switchkiddies who haven't played the previous Zeldas.

>>714709332
>>714709501
Remember, anons
Open world, le heckin epic plot with voice acting, and breakable equipment is good because it's new/ different

>>714709383
Essentially, on one side you have anons who
>desperately try to convince themselves and others that it's good
>those that wanna be trendy by getting new thing because it's new
>nintendo loyalists that will literally buy anything they push
>shills
>and a handful of people who actually played, genuinely enjoyed it, AND don't mind getting taken advantage of
On the other hand, you have people that
>are tired of modern trends, and don't want to participate in rewarding retarded corpo behavior anymore
>are not impressed with what nintendo has to offer, or at least yet
I guess it just depends on how strongly one feels about it

>>714709676
>Spends years bashing ubislop and open world games
>falls head over heels for open world ubislop forma de Zelda

>>714693809
only oldfags remember when getting banned meant you couldn't even read this site

must be some more bad news for Snoy coming.

>>714695763
Yeah, no shit. Wonder why hmmm... ohhhhhh pls stop noticing sempaï desü! aiiiiiiii

>>714710351
thats every fucking week at this point

>>714709332
According to me who has played and beaten every zelda game, and the rest of the world
why does a nintendo game having universal praise from everyone, even rival companies of nintendo, upset you so much?

>>714710459
I've beaten every zelda up to Botw. Botw bored me me to death

>>714710218
I think any and all forms of open world are a meme, anon, regardless of who makes it. Sure, there was a novelty to it at first, but these days it serves no purpose other that to appeal to immersionfags, and maintain a status quo, as if going back to older formats is somehow a objective step down in quality

>>714710459
>it's objective
>because of my subjective opinion

>>714682037
nigger please, all 3 fags are incompetent as all fuck. Sony and Microsoft barely released shit and what little mattered got ported to PC. gaming is dead because normies replaced us as the main demographic. it is them who have no taste, no standards, no love for the art

>>714710218
I am burned out on open world slop, but the one thing BOTW/TOTK does unlike the competition is treating the player like fucking adults, AC and RDR2 treats the player like fucking babies with the map littered with icons and near constant tutorials and handholding, BOTW in particular in other hand has 90% of its mechanics in a very missable tutorial section in the plateu prologue. If anything BOTW/TOTK has more in common with Far Cry 2 than any modern ubisoft title.

>>714711020
>wahhhh those objective metrics don't count!
>NOOOOOO YOU CANT SUBJECTIVELY CALL IT GOOD EITHER
keep seething snoy, and since BOTW has mindbroken you for 9 years I predict 9 more years

>>714711343
>opinions are objective metrics

>>714711020
it's okay for people to be objectively correct
for example
homosexuality is a sin
LGBTBBQs are pedophiles
these are opinions I hold that are objectively correct
now seethe ;)

>>714711457
>these are opinions I hold that are objectively correct
so you don't consider those statements facts? very interesting, anon..

>>714678661 (OP)
>pajeet_nation
>politically correct gaming
lol
lmao

>>714682037
Although I have scraps of memories early enough of nes, through switch 1, I'm right there with ya
I fell for the smash meme, but got disillusioned once I realized the game's sole purpose was to appeal to rosterfags, which most felt jarringly out of place, and a embarrassing shortage of quality gameplay modes. Although the song and stage selection was relatively very impressive
Once I realized what the switch was about, I rode it out, but wasn't wild for it. Fast forward to switch 2 leaks and reading between the lines of the direct. Nintendo may have gone a totally different direction with iwata, but it also died with him.

>>714695746
Your example is considerably better than the one I posted, and that's simply because objective tests show that the Switch 2 screen is 50% slower than the Switch 1 screen, which is already quite slow to begin with. And that's the whole problem.
The Switch 1 doesn't have a very good screen, but it's still within the acceptable range for most games you'd want to play on a small screen (although the loss of sharpness due to image retention is easily noticeable). The Switch 2 takes this thing that's barely within the acceptable range and makes it fucking 50% slower!

>>714682037
>I used to be a Nintendo fan but...
Even snoys shitposts are just rereleases.

>>714712110
Its funny because the opposite is true
I grew up with playstation but got a wii and a DS for monster hunter, then later found out about all the evil shit sony has done over the years once I left the sony echochamber
only the most brainwashed sony cultist would willingly support such a company as evil as sony

>>714712110
>You're not allowed to change your mind or be disillusioned
damn, they got you good, huh?

>>714713313
anyone that starts their post using that phrase is being a disingenuous shithead.

>>714713416
How would a genuine non-shithead go about conveying the same thought while adhering to proper english grammatical structure?
I don't see the harm in providing context for their opinion

>>714678661 (OP)
>screen is bad because if you squint while holding your breath you see doubles

>>714683258
burn in is an inevitability, retard

>>714678661 (OP)
>Nintendo was propping up this screen like top of the line tech to justify the absurd price tag
this never happened

>>714713720
60hz screens are a norm now you blind lil devotee tendie
this screen isn't good enough for 30

>>714713720
it is the terminal cope, hell even tech youtube grifter niggers are seething that the console inludes new joycons, calling it a rip off since nintendo "apparently" hid the fact that the switch 2 is compatible with switch 1 joycons despite them clearly stating it in their presentation.

>>714714025
>60hz screens are a norm now
Not anymore. Everything is 100+ now.

>>714679062
literally is only a problem in the cold and the north hemisphere is undergoing insane heat waves
anyone without subzero industrial grade air conditioning does not experience (or care about) this

>>714714154
what the actual fuck are you talking about

>>714714220
i have a nintendo switch 2.
the panel only shows this issue if it's cold.
once it warms up it's going to be fine 99% of the time.
LCD displays are more sluggish in the cold.
a videogame warms up quick. literal nonissue

>>714714379
those screens are tested in an air conditioned building you bumbling retard

>>714714471
at unrealistic temperatures for real world situations
who the fuck is sitting inside a 64 degree room all day to play their mario game?

>>714714528
this is perhaps the most retarded ad hoc cope tangent i have ever heard if this is your counterpoint

>>714714379
Holy shit you're retarded

>Tendies are tech-illiterate

In other news, the sky is blue.

>>714714379
it seems like the PS5 consoles aren't the only thing that is melting down

>>714678661 (OP)
>Nintendo was propping up this screen like top of the line tech to justify the absurd price tag,
No they weren't

>>714709332
Me

>>714716125
Me too.

>super sluggish
I play PC, PS5 and Switch 2, and I don’t notice that at all. Whatever technical claim OP is making is meaningless if I can’t see it no matter how hard I look.

>>714714624
>>714714679
>>714715564
does nintendo pay you or

>>714689684
That's just your typical console tard PC convert, they literally can't tell the difference between 2 fps and 200 there is no saving them. Worked at Best Buy thousands of stories of them buying high refresh monitors and using them on 60hz for over a year

>>714678661 (OP)
I don't really care
if the games are good and it's a reasonable price I'll get it
don't give a fuck about FPS unless it's just terrible performance
switch 2 isn't worth the price and has no games so right now I don't care about some fucking gay screen sperging from manchildren - it's just not worth buying
a lot of things aren't worth buying regardless of technical spergery from redditors

>>714717113
People were getting motion sickness because of the blurring and ghosting. So yes this information is a big deal for people who are sensitive to these sorts lf things

>>714718036
>People were getting motion sickness because of the blurring and ghosting.
No they werent

>>714678661 (OP)
>So have we, as consumers, decided we're just gonna let this slide?
I dunno, I just wasn't going to buy the thing because it's a piece of shit and nu-Nintendo hasn't gotten to the point they're arrogant enough to directly shit on the games after seeing how people play an $80 purchase in a way they don't approve of. There is nothing good about this system or this corporation anymore so focusing on any one specific problem feels kind of pointless at this point.

>>714718250
https://www.reddit.com/r/mariokart/comments/1l4mg2l/motion_sickness/

>>714716514
but you're the one covering for nintendo's shitty screen with some never heard before cope?

>>714718976
>reddit

>>714686319
Console version of Switch 2 (non-portable) when?
I'm tired of the giant handheld meme.

>>714686319
Instead you're losing half the CPU and GPU speed because it's in a shitty plastic shell

>>714719371
>tendie

>>714678661 (OP)
>this screen is 100 times slower
So it has 100 frames or more, of input lag?
>n-no I mean-
A screen is measured in frames. There is no "half a frame" for the screen. For 100 * X, the steps go from 100 * 0, to 100 * 1.

>>714719923
See >>714706667

>>714679062
>Funny how this wasn't a problem for anyone until someone made a chart
I knew something was off, but I couldn't put my finger on it, so I blamed Switch 2 backwards comparability being spotty.

>>714679062
I love the 2000 different copes snoys come up with when you point out this fact

>>714678661 (OP)
>pc cucks still seething about the switch 2

That's okay, I only play it docked.

>>714720421
NONONONONO YOU CANT USE IT DOCKED THAT DOESNT COUNT

I don't know who would pretend that PC bros seethe about Nintendo, when Nintendo is the only company I buy consoles from anymore as a PC gamer.

I have a Switch OLED, Steam Deck OLED, 4090 rig with a 144hz monitor and the Switch 2 screen looks good. It looks better than the deck and Switch 1 in my opinion. Ghosting issue is literally not real.

Wasn't it confirmed that the response time shit was completely incorrect anyways because they tested it off of an (unsupported) youtube app lmao

>>714718036
>People were getting motion sickness because of the blurring and ghosting
Hahahahaha. Eric put the phone down bro

>>714720932
No, that's copium
Even if we assume they did that you can absolutely do response times through a video

>>714721141
no you can't you retard.

>>714720932
No they there are visible photos of the ghosting from the poor response times. The Monitors Unboxed guys did it with the tools they use for their other reviews

>>714721205
You can
What the fuck do you think a response time test is and why would a 60fps video on a 60hz screen cause issues

>>714719470
It would be an Xbox Series S but with 50% of the processing power. Who would want something like that?
The only advantage of the Switch is precisely its ability to function as a hybrid device.

>>714721531
I buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games. I spent 90% of my time playin the Switch 1 in docked mode.
What I'm wanting from a non-portable version is superior cooling (and thus increased longevity) more than anything else.

>>714697238
>tendie jumps to sales when its obvious how dogshit quality his tablet is

>>714721308
That autistic anon is a religious fundamentalist, I'm not kidding. He knows the screen is super slow, he can see that on his Switch 2, but he comes here to blatantly lie because he thinks any criticism of Nintendo is a threat to his lifestyle and religion.
He knows that you and everyone else are right, but he continues to disagree because, in his view, it's not a battle between truth and lies, it's a battle between Nintendo's sacred religion followers and Sony's sacred religion followers.

>>714679193
This. I am a consumer and my standards are lower than low.

>>714700519
DELETE THIS

>>714721847
>corpos appealing to those with ≤zero standards isn't a problem
that in itself is a problem, but I suppose that's the burden of being a gamer that gives a fuck after 2010 or so

>>714720421
That's fine, it still has a sleazy infrastructure that has been engineered to exploit most gamers insecurities and good faith

>>714722260
Okay.

>>714703047
No anon sales matter more than the fact that the shitch is an underpowered locked down tablet that costs more than a car

>>714696223
if all the games you like look like a slightly fuzzy black screen then maybe gaming is not for you

>>714698032
For Zelda, yes. Especially during the honeymoon phase post-release
Who the fuck genuinely thinks Skyward Sword or Tears of the Kingdom are 10/10 games

>>714722059
The idea that its the consumers fault is just posturing. They cheaped out on the screen. Great. Consumers got burned and can either learn or not care and have a blissfully ignorant experience. The consumer didn't tell Nintendo to compromise their console by fitting it with a terrible screen.

>10 times slower

That's not how math works. Anyone who says it like this is a bonafide retard and nothing they say is worth hearing.

>NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I __NEED__ THE 0.01ms REFRESH RATE DESPITE PLAYING AT 30 FPS (33.33ms per frame)

>>714723429
eric, all your seethe threads keep failing.

>>714678661 (OP)
>we
You got a mouse in your pocket?

>>714713720
>disingenuous shitendo shill going full damage control over the fact his game is smeary shit resembling a classic gameboy

lmao tendie cultists coping hard itt. the switch 2 more like the shitch poo

>>714718340
Its why I've filtered anything Shitendo related lately. All buzzwords and boogeymen alike so I don't have to see or hear tendies screech in rage. For some reason this thread showed up though

>>714724393
yes yes, we know about your scat fetish

>>714723920
So confident and so fucking wrong
Those numbers people are talking about are response times aka how long it takes for the pixels to change to the next frame
If they're not good enough you get ghosting
The switch 2's screen can barely manage response times of 33.3ms on average which is only technically good enough for 30 fps
Meanwhile the closest comparisons are the deck LCD which has response times of 21ms which is 49 FPS and rog ally's display has response times of 8ms which is good enough for 120 but mobile OLEDs have response times of 1ms which could handle 800 if the panels supported it
Those response times are all numbers you can understand and compare so you're the retard

>>714724486
then how are you in this thread, eric?

>>714723516
Hey, don't be shaming doom 3 and RE7 now!, those are the epitome of dark gaming!

>>714724730
>dark gaming
You fucking rascal...

>>714724653
Not only this but apparently the screen has a mohs hardness scale of level 3. Meaning just putting in the dock is enough to scratch. What a dogshit product

>>714724730
Based Doom 3: Black Edtion enjoyer

>>714723716
>The idea that its the consumers fault is just posturing
It takes two to tango. Nintendo tested the waters by abandoning more generally (although not entirely) consumer friendly practices of the wii u, and millions rose up and collectively said "oh yes, yummy yummy, give me more!!"
So you're half right
>They cheaped out on the screen
admittedly, idgaf about screen performance. when I played the switch 1, I played 99.99999% of the time docked
>Consumers got burned and can either learn or not care and have a blissfully ignorant experience
Their target audiences: casuals, uninformed/ unenlightened kids, and turbo autist fans have proven for several generations that they're incapable of learning
These things are why I got beef. But the only reasons that are trendy enough to hook those on the fence is cost and stupid shit like the screen for handheld

>>714724990
The cost is about the same as a ps5 and soon cheap to midrange phones will be more powerful than the switch. Phone tech becoming good is how chinkware gachaslop gained so much marketshare. Newer phones admittedly look really impressive

>>714725386
more powerful than the switch 2*

>>714724730
Ah yes, running through the house barely being able to see shit, the RE7 experience

>>714725386
It's not about cost. The issue is what gaming has become, and nobody with any power or authority seems to find an issue with it.

>>714724730
>dark gaming
Add Bendy to the list, some sections were made for moles

>>714678661 (OP)
That can’t be right. There’s shittiest LCD is has response times 50x worse than the cutting edge oled stuff.

>>714724730
I swear that fucking flashlight patch was full of shit, even with it the game looks too fucking dark

>>714724730
>dark gaming
I hate you, you smug nigger

>>714724730
>dark gaming
Emulating tyrone's mindset XD

>>714724730
>nigger samefagging his own post this hard

>>714724730
>dark gaming
I mean, your'e not wrong

>>714678661 (OP)
I thought everyone hated this guy for going against the petition

>>714724730
I always think they did this to render less stuff on-screen so they could put more detailed models, but now i don't know.

>>714679062
>funny how it wasn't a problem until someone made an analysis and posted his findings
very funny indeed

>>714724730
Does Peripeteia count? some dark sections looked good honestly

>>714724730
XD
>>714726125
When someone makes a joke and people find it funny you laugh or call it samefagging?

>>714679062
Nerds like charts, they feed on them regurally, zoomers too but they need a nerd to explain those for them
>>714724730
KEK

>>714679062
I mean they did buy it, might as well commit to the bit

>>714713720
U mad bro?

>>714726937
>all file names are labelled as if from a folder
>all for a post that wasn't even remotely funny and in effort to bump his thread
meds now

>>714679062
The tendies that bought a console with no games aren't exactly bright so no one expects some scathing analysis from them

>>714720361
Nigga PC players were busy on the summer sale, the snoys made the charts so they could blame the PC guys

>>714727446
tendies didn't buy the ps5 anon.

>>714718036
>People were getting motion sickness because of the blurring and ghosting
what?

>>714727416
>all file names are labelled as if from a folder
seems like you're the expert then, so it must be you

>>714679062
>If a tree falls and no one is there to hear it

>>714727748
It still makes a sound...right?

>>714727495
There can be multiple consoles with no games
If the ps5 came out with a shitty screen which they'd demand a premium for with no other options it'd receive plenty of scrutiny

>>714727734
So it is from a folder that you're using to samefag your own thread? good to know

>>714727849
the PS5 came out with a shitty cooling system that will destroy the console if it is used too much. that is much worse than a poor screen. yet it is getting swept under the rug. curious.

>>714727949
How many snoys have you seen defending it compared to the tendies defending the screen
The fact that it's getting swept under the rug proves that it's indefensible as they can't mount a defense of it so they ignore it

>>714727854
But what if you're the one doing it blaming other people of doing it instead

>>714679062
Unfortunately, there is no way to prevent these vile practices that are embraced by these companies. Matter of the fact is, the humankind will destroy itself by the overwhelming numbers of the prole class that have been multiplying in the last fee decades nonstop thanks to the modern advancements in medicine and agriculture methods. There is no way to take measures against this without an unbiased eugenics program that would select the most optimal and desired offsprings and eliminates the unfit candidates by sterilization. I am not a megalomaniac narcissist or a sociopath with god complex. This is simply the truth. Sorry Tendies, but you have to go.

>>714727854
Hey but aren't you the one blaming him? how do you know?

>>714727416
How did you guess they were from a folder? you do the same nigga?

>>714679062
I didn't have a problem until /ourguy) Pirat pointed it out. Now that he has, you're a leftist if you're ignoring it.

>>714727416
Pot or Kettle?

>>714727416
Retard calling others retarded

>>714728352
>>714728445
>>714728530
>>714728720
>>714728803

Its called pattern recognition and inductive reasoning. All I had to was read the file names notice how they are all labelled aptly as if from folder because thats how most people organize their shit. Of course a brownoid such as yourself are probably an expert in samefagging his threads and can explain why there are many threads here that shit up /v/. I can wager all three of these replies are from some samefaggot trying to bump his thread

>>714727643
There were people talking about it all over but on 4chan you wouldn't know because the board was flooded with shitposts. I actually heard from a discord mutual about how he was getting headaches from playing Mario Kart on the switch 2 despite being okay playing on the oled.

>>714729006
>but on 4chan you wouldn't know because the board was flooded with shitposts
so regular /v/ then

>>714728875
>Its called pattern recognition and inductive reasoning. All I had to was read the file names notice how they are all labelled aptly as if from folder because thats how most people organize their shit. Of course a brownoid such as yourself are probably an expert in samefagging his threads and can explain why there are many threads here that shit up /v/. I can wager all three of these replies are from some samefaggot trying to bump his thread

um achtually at it's finest

>>714726785
>reverse image search thinking it's part of some animation
>first 15 pics are nothing but fetish pics (barefoot, gags/bondage, presenting, used as a living prop)
yoshi fans are more autistically degenerate than even sonic fans

>>714724990
This thread was spawned because of the screen controversy. Dont treat it like a nothing burger because its convenient in this moment.

The world would be a better place if Nintendo games were restricted to children and women. No adult man needs to play wahoo or pikaman, get a life bro.

>>714729371
Damn you for making me search it just to check
Fucking hideous...

>>714729408
Not implying it's not significant. I'm just saying that that particular grievance doesn't really apply to me
Any and all exploitation from Nintendo is fucked up. But in fairness, I can see how you'd interpret it that way, my bad

It's been quite a while since i did play a Nintendo game, and that comes from someone with a NES and SNES emulators.

>>714729371
>yoshi fans are more autistically degenerate than even sonic fans
I knew a guy from college, that you could just tell was fucking off tilt, and one day he started bragging about
>BeiNg An ArTiSt
and trying to pass his yoshi oc's like he was from cal arts or something (clearly not a compliment in this or any context), and started getting really comfortable doing everything short of explicitly stating that he's a anthrofag, and more
I immediately avoided any and all contact with him

>>714718250
I was.

>>714678661 (OP)
Yes. It's the fastest selling console of all time. Cope.

>>714730698
The 5 million sales number was just test data and not real according to Nintendo themselves.