Thread 714686063

>want to make 3D game
>realize I have to learn modeling, texturing, animating and UV-unwrapping
>all motivation to make game dies immediately

Just use AI

>>714686063 (OP)
nothing really comes in life just like that does it? start learning now and maybe some years from now you will have something cohesive on your hands. just do it, don't think about it too much.

>want to make a 3d game
>specifically, want to make cool dungeons/scenarios to explore, fight and solve puzzles in
>realize I'll never be able to do all the 3d shit by myself
>get into modding, find out doom, quake, mario 64, tomb raider have really good level editors
>get to skip all the boring stuff and go straight to level design
>scripting even let's you add mechanics that were not in the original game (at least I could do that in quake)

>>714686063 (OP)
don't fall for the 3D meme. even after you learn all of those things it will eventually dawn on you that without artistic ability (understanding design, appeal, proportion and more) then you'll just be making shit
I've spent 3-4 years in 3D and wish I just learned to draw instead. pic related is a selection of my stuff and I dislike all of it

>>714686674
Video games are somewhat unique, if you want to make a song you just play the instruments and sing, if you want to write then you just write, if you want to draw then you just draw. Large productions like video games require a lot of skillsets and unless you're making Pizza Tower it's often impractical or expensive.

>>714686823
I really like that bat-thing in the middle

>>714686823
Copy from reference friendo

>>714686823
left to right
top to bottom

based, based, cringe, cringe, cringe, based
based, based, based
based, based, based, cringe
based, based

>>714686823
but I do draw, its my main hobby
pic related is a study I did last month. My original drawings aren't as good as my studies, but its getting there
And I think everything you have created looks great, it can all be used in games

You don't have to learn that stuff until you're creating content
You start with cubes and capsules, and build out your business logic i.e. your gameplay
Then you learn modelling - which isn't hard - and then you build some models to see how your gameplay is shaping up
You don't need to texture anything, or animate or do lighting, that comes later
I wanted to post the low poly revolver model I made, but I can't find it. I made it on a whim one time, with no 3D modelling experience, just blender. Just paste a side-on picture of the thing you want to model, then extrude your starting cube out until it takes the shape. I fucked up lots with the faces and vertices, but it's no big deal, just keep at it until you get it right, it's fine.

>>714686823
It's better than mine shit

>>714686823
>I've spent 3-4 years in 3D and wish I just learned to draw instead.
drawing is much harder to learn so you would still be drawing stick figures
most likely the issue is that you spend very little time practicing and never study or try to improve
if you actually want to get better at art you need to spend several hours every day practicing, grind the things you're bad at, study anatomy, etc

>>714686931
with this attitude you will get nowhere but if you don't want to do it then just don't, it really is about how much you want to achieve a certain goal and not just think or fantasize as how it would feel to make a full on game on your own, it obviously will take much effort and obstacle solving to get it completed to the point where you're satisfied enough

>>714686063 (OP)
I plan to write and do concept art myself and pay others to do the rest.

>>714688005
This is sad truth. I tried to learn oil paints and it look like someone shit on the canvas in the shape of a camel, but my 3d skills are on the same level with my painting skills

>>714688719
Soul

>>714686063 (OP)
Don't worry about making it look nice. Use placeholder cubes first to test if the idea is fun. No point spending a decade developing art skills if your idea executes shit

It will also motivate you as it comes together

Stop jumping to the end result mentally, because it will never look like what's in your head even if you were the best artist at birth.

Newfag, faggot, etc

>>714688719
Most 3D artist can draw, or start off as 3d artists, or have some wealth of 2d skills, because all creative skills lean on each other

>>714686063 (OP)
>want to make games
>learned how to program
>learned how to use the engine of choice
>learned Fl studios
>learned Blender
>learned Krita
>learned Gimp
>learned Aseprite
>Die inside from realizing I have no grand ideas to follow through on.
>Just want to spend time with family and friends
>What I actually spend all my time on is working on bullshit hobby projects

Blah. Game dev is gay.

>>714689574
>>Just want to spend time with family and friends
Die normie

>>714689574
Go spend time with friends and family, and when you satisfy those urges, you'll feel inspired and more ideas will occur to you.

If you want more interesting creative output you have to have interesting creative input (experience). So go out and do stuff

>>714689574
I can relate to this post
sometimes I don't know if I should laugh or cry

>>714686823
sovl
>>714687760
sovl

>>714689574
Find yourself a visionary. There's a lot of "Idea guys" out there with money to spare and genuinely great concepts and direction. If you have no grand dreams, help someone else accomplish theirs with what you learned.

>>714688005
>you spend very little time practicing and never study or try to improve
pretty much. right now I'm working on some vertex colored low poly plant things, and it's shit I could've easily done 3 years ago
I just want stuff that's easy to make but still looks good, which is kind of impossible afaik. I've tried voxels and even making shit entirely out of spheres like Ecstatica, all sorts, none of it works
I just tried making a low poly spiral thing to go around a sphere and I can't figure it out so I'm just gonna drop it and move on like I always do

Ive veen wanting to learn how to draw but i'm an unmltivated piece of shit.
Been procastrinating for the past half a decade.
How do i change?

>>714692172
Probably your best bet is joining a group of people on the internet who draw.
That is what motivated me for a long time, the community I was a part of had weekly art challenges.
Your social motivations then feed into your art motivations.

>>714691969
i wanna eat that bulb

>>714691776
>There's a lot of "Idea guys" out there with money to spare and genuinely great concepts and direction.
No...there really isn't. Definitely not "a lot" of them. How would you find out they have genuine great concepts and direction if they never made a game before?

>>714686195
>>714686428
I wonder how long AI is gonna be taboo until it's openly accepted in game dev communities. It'll help a lot of people make their dream games desu

>>714695529
The problem about AI isn't about lowering the skill floor for passionate creators, but opening the floodgates for shovelware and a deluge of slop. It's already as bad as it is.

>>714695529
Chatbot AIs could go crazy in a long-term RPG game.

>>714686063 (OP)
you misses some

> concepting
> Modeling
> sculping
> retopo
> UV-unwrapping
> Texturing
> Shaders
> Rigging
> Animation

and thats only on the 3d assets side of things. Its a long ass rode

Making art requires effort, if you cannot put forth the effort it isn't for you.
>>714695529
AI niggers will never be able to produce anything of value.

>>714687434
NTA but when you construct a drawing do you just scribble it in? I always here people say draw simple forms first and am wondering

>>714687434
>My original drawings aren't as good as my studies,
I know that feel.

>>714686063 (OP)
Creating things takes.....LE EFFORT????!!! AUUUUUUGGGHHHH I CAN'T, BETTER WASTE MORE TIME ON 4CHAN!!

It takes a week to learn Blender, never kill yourself

>>714689574
>I have no grand ideas to follow through on
Just start stealing from your favorite stories, it's that simple.
t. someone with a ton of ideas

>>714686063 (OP)
>make a 2D game
>realize I have to draw
>draw
> :—)

>>714698087
>having to draw my textures and apply the uvs
i kill my interest then

>>714700968
Draw on the model dummy

>>714702180
but the default brushes suck

>>714702278
1. What textures could you possibly be drawing that requires advanced brushes
2. Draw with the default brushes to mark the main areas then touch up the edges in whatever program you want

>>714686823
I feel like you have some innate thing for this. Obviously most are either unfinished or very low poly, but they feel like soul for some reason, I can't quite put my finger on it. Definitely love the bottom left pic.

>>714702482
detailed textures on clothes

>>714686428
The only people who hate AI are troons and leftists on reddit.

>>714686931
>you just play the instruments and sing, if you want to write then you just write, if you want to draw then you just draw
Are you 12? This is the most ignorant thing I've read all day

Texturing filtered me

>>714686063 (OP)
I'm far too lazy and undisciplined to learn anything that won't make me money

>>714686063 (OP)
Do what you can.

>>714686823
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