You haven't been filtered by THE best MMO on the market, have you anon??
It's too late to get into it at this point as you'll be doing most of the content with bots
>>714707409 (OP)Picking best mmo is like picking the best dildo to forcefully shove in my ass.
>>714707409 (OP)Pick a segment of story you really liked and retell it to me here from memory
>>714707460>>714707486>>714707503>>714707509>samezoomertrannyNo, I won't play FFXIV with you.
>>714707409 (OP)The hardest part of this game is getting that damn thing installed
I couldnt beat maat on my monk as a teen so i quit.
>>714707509Well there was, ummm... Something about Promathia consuming everyone in Abyssea version of Vanadiel but Prishe, right...
>>714707509I remember that one time Shantotto did a thing
>>714707409 (OP)>THE best MMOthat's like saying the best tasting shit
it's still shit, anon
>>714707409 (OP)Put 15,000 hours into it as a teenager. I'm good.
>>714707747I knew a Galka that had this happen to him but I can't remember his name for the life of me. He had a Linkshell with his brother and they were a small group of friends who I met through the zeni camera thing when it first got added. I can't remember any of their names, though. We were friends for a little bit, so it makes me sad.
>>714707656>biological determinismholy zased
>>714707509I'd be here for too long.
>>714707460Nah, it's still a kino video game even as a pure single player experience. But play on a real server and you'll still have plenty of people to talk to and play with anyway.
These games are not fun to play. You aren't engaged. You are doing something you've done thousands of times because you don't want to leave your comfort zone. Break free.
>>714708681You just described gacha "games" though, where literally millions of people are stuck on the same repetitive daily treadmill out of FOMO, sunken time, and pull anticipation dopamine, making themselves miserable in the meanwhile.
>>714707409 (OP)Official servers or private?
>>714707656based
total goblin death
>>714708681your mom wasn't engaged before you were born
>>714708884Private if you want to play with humans from the jump
Retail if you want to experience the entire story and have literally months worth of content solo before you can (adequately) play with other humans. Also you have to subscribe eventually.
>>714708681It's fun to play something where you can turn your brain off and chat with friends while making progress.
>>714707503>trooncel "humor"
>>714708681>it's not fun because........... it's just not!
>>714707509The truth of the creation myth in Chains of Promathia being revealed as all of humanity being born from repurposed shards of the suicidal evil God who was the benevolent creation Goddess' lover was pretty cool
It's a good sign that FFXI still demands a subscription fee in 2025, and hasnt gone F2P or shut down entirely yet right
>got exoray, papyrus and bomb coal through drops
>maat still won't let me finish the quest
Is this a LSB issue?
>>714707409 (OP)Nah, 99 PUP here, having a lot of fun with how broken this job is for a lot of content.
>>714710064You are trading them to him, right?
Just making sure as dumb as it sounds
>>714707608Quite ironic to reply with "I won't play X with you" as you make a beginning thread for "PLEASE PLAY Y WITH ME"
Have you heard of the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XI? It DOES have a Free Trial with a 14-day restriction on playtime up to level like fucking twelve, and does NOT include any critically acclaimed expansions like Rise of the Zilart
>>714710064https://github.com/LandSandBoat/server/blob/03f15bd55bee3de048d502bd0dff28b4d2d937c0/scripts/quests/jeuno/LB01_In_Defiant_Challenge.lua#L128
if you've accepted the quest (in your quest log) the trade should work
you need to be level 50 to actually flag it
>>714710278I'm a retard...
>>714710498Lol it is okey
I've taught how to play this game to like 10 different people, so I know the most common struggles with shit like that.
>>714710498>>714710580Is it just me or is "Trading to NPC" mechanic soooo like out there, like I'd never think to do that unless someone told me explicitly "You can trade to NPCs the same way you trade to players"
Thank god for BG and wikis...
>>714710847It's the first thing the game teaches you to do. But yes I do feel it's a weird way to do it.
>>714710378Literally no one cares if you play XI or not, an influx of players now wouldn't change anything, there wouldn't be new expansions, there's nothing at stake retarded zoomertroon.
>>714710847I dont think you're really too crazy to think like that. The same cannot be said about key items, NPCs will "know" you have them
>>714710971That's true, but it doesn't really force you to actually go through the the adventurer coupon trade especially with how worthless it is
I actually got my ps2 taken away for like a month back in the day because I was playing this game so much.
It was really one of the funnest most immersive social gaming experiences back in the day.
I was the recruiter for my linkshell.
>>714710847Back in the day, maybe still to this point, copies of FFXI had a little booklet that also had a link to a square enix site that had like 12 to 15 (?) videos that would teach you the very basics of the game.
A lot of those quirks that you probably think are stupid (and I do not blame you for doing so) were explained in these videos so to a lot of people it just makes sense, but I also understand why it just makes no sense from a newbie perspective, a lot of the little quirks are truly just expected to be known by the players, or it is expected for players to ask other more experienced players, and there was no true effort to just outright explaining the mechanics in-game from what I can remember.
>>714708681You should quit immediately if you are a Lastoker
>>714711241>he doesn't know that it's meta for bastok to be in last
>>714707409 (OP)What is all this? It says it's on PS2. I don't think it has retroachievements either. I was trying to play all the numbered FF games and Crystal Chronicles (I'm still on FF1 so it will be a chore)
>>714710847The game does teach it to you, but you can go so long without doing it that it's easy to forget, particularly if you take a break from the game for a while.
>>714711323you need a ps2 with a HDD and a usb keyboard.
>>714711323you cant use those, PS2 access was shut down a decade or so ago.
Have to play on the PC version, and there's no cheevos anymore (360 version was also shut down ages ago)
>>714711323It was on PS2, PC and Xbox360 but only the PC client is still supported
>>714711323FFXI used to be playable in PS2.
All of those (except "Online, since that's the base game) are expansions for the game.
>>714711410>>714710847It's literally the first thing the game teaches you. The opening cutscene gives you an item and tells you to trade it to a guide NPC. Do some people just rely on wiki so much they don't actually read the dialog?
I love Mithra and Elvaan women so much bros
>>714711241You take back this slander of glorious Bastok
>>714707625This, the sign up filtered me fucking hard. I just wanted to play as a gambler.
>>714711480Yes, I said that it teaches it to you. I went on to say that you can go a long time without trading an item to an NPC, since this is an MMO and content can be done in many different ways and take a lot of time. I also said that you can take a break, and that extra time could make you forget that the mechanic of trading items to NPC exists.
Wow, reading sure is hard!
>>714711480To be fair, while the game is not as frontloaded in terms of mechanics, it is not exactly that intuitive for a new player to understand the controls layout right off the bat.
I love FFXI and never really fucked with XIV for more than a couple of months, but if you compare how these two games introduce new players into how to move and other shit, I can't blame new players for not understanding that you do NEED to trade with an NPC and not just talking to them like you do with a lot of other games.
>>714711480I think it was pretty straight-forward when the game was released but people these days just have different expectations of how games work.
>>714707656>>714708335CoP subverts this by revealing that the beastmen and civilized races have a common origin and that the latter are the ones with biologically deterministic characteristics, such as Elvaan being predisposed to extreme racism.
HorizonXI is not true classic, it have level sync which was introduced way after CoP was released.
I dont know how people did exp parties before level sync was a thing, do you really have to sit for hours looking for people exactly your level so you dont lose exp?
>>714712396>>such as Elvaan being predisposed to extreme racism.>wake up in Glorious San d'Oria>think about how to kill those dirty h*mes, m*thra, t*rus and g*lka for good
>>714709819Itโs a good sign that they added race change, it means that the game will still be running for few more years
>>714712482>do you really have to sit for hours looking for people exactly your level so you dont lose exp?Yes. It was fucking horrible. People would list their TNLs in their seacom as they usually do on Horizon but you'd have to pick ALL people based on how long you were in good exp range of camps, instead of just the sync
>>714712482yes, and if someone leveled up too quickly you'd just ask them to leave and replace them with someone lower level
>>714712586Are you sayng they added a 14 Fantasia-like item?? Holy shit
Have they added server transfer at all yet btw, or are you stuck where you live
>>714712691Sever transfer has been around for aeons
>>714712482Yes. It was also a nightmare to actually do story content in CoP because your level would sync down for BCNMs but your gear wouldn't, meaning you had to pray you could find the perfect party comp of willing players who all happened to have full sets of lower level gear sitting in their extremely limited storage space for the sole purpose of helping people run said BCNMs.
>>714712482Yes but you didn't sit for hours, it was a fairly simple process of
>Ask your friends>Ask your linkshell(s)>Do a /search and see who was seeking party>Ask people in your level range who were not seeking partyYou would also keep a note, mental or otherwise, of people who you had leveled with previously and even if they were not on the same job at the time you'd ask them anyway. The horror stories you hear are usually from antisocial people who were filtered anyway, they refused to talk to people and sat in a corner waiting for someone else to ask them.
>>714712771if you weren't using a static for CoP you were playing the game wrong
>>714712482There were generally a lot more players so there would always be people in your level range around. You might have to wait for hours if you were a no-utility damage dealer, but you could mitigate that by learning leadership skills such as seeking out tanks and healers yourself, or learning about non-standard EXP camps where you could still fight Tough mobs without a dedicated tank or healer for slightly less EXP.
Basically the game was what you made of it. If you wanted to do things the tried and tested way to minimize all risk, you could wait hours for an EXP party or days or weeks for a Mission or high tier battlefield. But the true meat of the game was experimenting, saying "well we don't have the optimal set up, but what can we do with what we have?"
>>714712482Level sync isn't even the biggest non-era thing about Horizon (and all private servers, in general). A good party in-era was like 5-6k exp per hour and you're getting 2-5x that amount even on "era" servers. A bad party was like 3k per hour but if you were a thief or something you just had to deal with it.
>>714713091Some of that has to do with the WoTG exp table, some of it with the slightly higher DEX:ACC STR:ATT ratios, and the final ingredient, pure autism
Should I go back to it? I had a couple of jobs in il117, didn't really explore any of the new endgame content.
I made a character during covid and completed some shit, I had a DNC, DRG, PLD and PUP all with some okey gear, finished through RoZ, CoP, ToAU and most of WoTG.
I do not know what I would do aside from RoV
>>714712891That only worked if everyone started playing XI after CoP came out and also knew to beeline the story while leveling up to ensure their gear didn't outpace the content. Anyone playing at the time was already at least level 50, and whether you had a static or not didn't change the fact that you had to go out of your way to collect lower level gear sets that you already would have likely sold/tossed (we didn't know that CoP was going to be asynchronous) to be able to do the content anyway.
>>714713170yeah, even for solo iirc the minimum exp you can get from an easy prey on horizon is like double what it was in 2005
The magic of the game that I look back with the most fondness was that endgame "loop" that I legitimately enjoyed the most was helping lower level players who were to trying to finish something difficult. When I got to 75, I would constantly sit in Jeuno and respond to shouts where people needed escorts through tougher areas or NMs. It was great, the game made my enjoyment come from helping others.
>>714713339that's about right yeah. I think EPs were 20-25 exp originally. Basically not worth killing purely for exp
>>714710847It was pretty standard for MMOs at the time.
>>714713339yeah even easy prey gives you like 60? 70? xp
instead of the fucking 30 it used to give
Why was San d'orias theme eh but the Chateu D'oraguille had a banger theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU1DFmKT5LY
>>714711480>>714710847it's this honestly
>>714711912You have to understand that most people today are use to playing games with untold millions of layers of "QoL" features. To an older MMO enjoyer the concept of using the trade function to give an item to a NPC makes perfect sense, that's what the feature is there for isn't it? But for a younger individual they've spent their entire life playing games where if you need to trade an item to a NPC you get a huge prompt that comes up, a box pops up in the middle of your screen, your inventory is automatically opened, and you have giant arrows telling you to drag and drop the item into the slot.
>>714713329If you did not keep level cap sets handy for BCNMs you were not a serious player anyway
>>714713371You can still do this today on horizon at least
>>714707409 (OP)whens official 75 cap classic servers
>>714713552it would be awful, full of multiboxers, powerlevels, and merc spam. you will never get the original experience ever again.
>>714712482No private server can ever be "true classic" because internet dynamics simply aren't and never will be the same as back then. Outside of IRC, an MMO was effectively your social media/Discord where you could just spend all day logged in doing no content at all but still having a social experience. Sure, you'll have a handful of boomers sitting around trying to emulate that experience, but they're boomers and so are you.
>>714713552Never because it wouldn't work, it would not be able to hold enough players to function without needing nerfs or significant changes.
>>714712482they didn't they would grind on pet exp as solo/duo or do Astral Flow burns every 2 hours and Merit off of King Buffalo. Only the stupid people partied until ToAU introduced functional exp camps
>>714713552SE doesn't even have the fucking data to replicate 'classic' FF XI
>>714713552Never because they don't have the server code from that era, even the private servers are a lot guesswork on how things worked serverside
>>714713552It genuinely would be shit due to modern gayming autism
>>714712482They didn't need to be your exact level, just within a 3 level window.
You only had to seek for hours if you were a DD and/or trying to find a party during non-peak hours. But you could just be smart about it and make your own parties or get your friends to EXP with you.
>>714713552You think you want this, but you don't.
>>714713658>even the private servers are a lot guesswork on how things worked serversideIt's purely guesswork, really
We can only send packets and receive packets to see how things work. Timing, exact formulas, etc are entirely reverse engineered. It's really hard work, but can be fun to do
>>714707409 (OP)It's way too fucking archaic even just trying to open it and log in to your account through that PlayOnline bullshit is a hassle
>>714713552It would never work, even if they could.
FFXI has so many fucking fart sniffers, but it also has something even worse: fake elitists
People that truly think the way they were told the game was supposed to be played is the only way to play it is the fucking worst.
And there's so many, many of them in FFXI.
>>714713707i know, i wouldnt play it, it would ruin my memories thats why i wont play private slop either
>>714713627"The internet used to be a fun place to hang out instead of constantly demanding and draining" is my generations "Back in my day we played stickball in the alley." It sucks that not only is this experience lost to the new generations but they don't even care because they have no framework to even comprehend what they're missing. What is the point of living when everything you valued about life is thrown away by society? Fuck I'm depressed now.
>>714707409 (OP)Havenโt played yet but even with extensive research I still cannot figure out what this gameโs combat is supposed to be like.
Every video I see is some guy just standing hitting autos for 5 minutes followed by a macro that casts some spell and repeat.
Explain to tab target XIVfag in retard terms whatโs so apealing about this game?
>>714713891>People that truly think the way they were told the game was supposed to be played is the only way to play it is the fucking worst.The only counterpoint to this is people on horizon finally realized the power of healing breath, though it is slightly worse in era (the charge time of the wyvern is about 2 seconds and not .5)
>>714713891This is why I could never enjoy a private server, it feels like the entire non-tourist population is nothing but fake elitists who never made it past the first genkai in retail, or never played it at all.
>>714707409 (OP)>Needs a subCall me when private servers give me 90% of the retail content. I'll consider it then.
>We will never have the subjob system in a non-MMO modern FF outside of Stranger of Paradise. Also, Ulmia a cute
>>714713891FFXI has something even worse than elitists: people like you who go to /v/ to spread misinformation about how open the job system is in the game and insist I won't kick you from my party if you show up as PLD/SMN.
>>714713942>Explain to tab target XIVfag in retard terms whatโs so apealing about this game?I literally can't, they are entirely different
But to your pic, that's low level gameplay which is hyper aids compared to mid level (36+) and consists mostly of auto attacks for most jobs that aren't mages
>>714713942you auto attack till you have enough TP to weapon skill, and maybe use the occasional ability or spell depending on the class, its the ultimate social mmo, grab a party auto attack grab a beer and just text chat to each other till its dead
>>714713895Modern retail remains the best way to play FFXI. Besides poorfags who just don't want to pay the subscription, I have always found it strange that people get really uppity about the game being different as if it isn't a fucking active MMO that still gets updated. No shit it's different, sorry that you were led to believe level 75 would be the cap forever and you could just come back to the game after 15 years and expect to still be the expert in everything. Oh nooo, I have to learn all the new shit that I know nothing about, all my old gear is worthless now, nooo!
>>714712482People complain (both now and in the past) about it being hard to get groups, but the thing is that's only true if you sit about with your flag up and wait for other people to invite you. Be assertive and do it yourself, message some people who aren't flagged as well and you'll get a party in no time.
>>714707409 (OP)>XI>Be SMN>You can actually, tangibly summon eidolons>They have their own stats, aggro table, are physical presences in the world>You have to fight and defeat the summons before you can use them>You can have them use elemental magic or their own unique skills from their own mana pools>They each have a special critical finisher>Each summon has its own specialized use, elemental type, damage type and support potential>Can summon Garuda's fat bird butt >FFXIV>Whatever the fuck is going on there>Can't summon anything>SMN thoughI've never seen a more butchered and self sabotaged implementation of anything. It's like SE actively had a round table about the mathematically worst and flavorless way they could implement the class
>>714713942Teamwork and pacing.
>Slow auto attacks to build TP (meter)>Spend TP to use weapon skills for big damage>Two or more players can time their weaponskills, one after another, to cause a skillchain, bonus damage on the target>Skillchains open up a Magic Burst window where magic spells matching the element of the skillchain do bonus damageThat's your bread and butter.
>Threat management is key, tanks lose threat upon receiving damage >Healing needs to be measured, not spammed>Suppport jobs exist, the game goes beyond the holy trinity, these jobs buff the party or serve the key role of helping with mana regenHave you played FF12? It's that but better.
>>714714089Thats maybe long time ago, now you WS every second or 2, itโs almost like FFXIV, of course if you have haste, store to, double attack..etc
>>714713992there's lots of room for experimenting, but not in exp parties with randos.
>>714714234Whatever abomination BLU is in FFXIV is also shit. No idea how they managed to ruin both of them
>>714713992And where am I spreading misinformation?
This is exactly what I mean with my previous post, you dumb son of a bitch, I played FFXI and did a FUCKTON of endgame shit back in the day, and then you visit a /v/ thread where people shit talk jobs such as MNK for not being WAR or SAM because they can't compete against them in turbo endgame scenarios when in reality MNK can do extremely fine in other content of the game such as BCNMs.
Some jobs are better than others, it was never fair for RDM to be pretty much superior to WHM in pretty much every fucking scenario, or how fucking WAR was better than DRG in colibri parties regardless of DRG being THE polearm job, but that does not mean DRG had no uses and that you could still play and enjoy the game outside of the 0.1% fucking meta, you stupid dimwit.
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>>714714109the issue was multiple expansion keeping the cap the same while expanding content and not fully invalidating the work you put in, only for one day, after a bunch of expansions for them to throw that all away, imagine if OSRS raised the level cap on skills to 199 and the new gear you get handed to you blows the fuck out of everything immediately. shinryu was the biggest red flag being required to beat, easy as fuck and handed you an item better than one of the rarest best belt in the game prior. fuck everything after 75
>>714713942It was all about using skills in combination with other players moreso than doing a "rotation" like XIV. You would not use your skills every time the timer was up because it was more important to have them ready in the correct circumstance to respond to the enemies skills and other player's skills. You'd have a lot of downtime at low levels which would decrease as you learned more abilities, but it was still slower and more methodical. You'd use the time between casting to communicate with your party via chat, making strategies or just hanging out getting to know each other. You have to remember that it was a true computer nerd number crunching RPG just one step away from being turn based, not like modern action RPGs that make you press a lot of buttons for minor reward. Every button you hit in XI was hugely consequential and you didn't hit them as often.
>>714714398>or how fucking WAR was better than DRG in colibri parties regardless of DRG being THE polearm jobhated this shit, same with SAM using polearm in those parties
doesnt make a lick of sense
>>714713992You want to argue in bad faith. The job system is open and there are many mainstream and niche combinations.
If you want to be retarded on purpose well yeah you can do that too, but that means you are retarded, not the system.
Canโt get over how brd in FFXIV is fused with ranger, and there is no thf job, and you have to dps as a healer and blu is not an actual job.
Thank fod they fixed smn years later and added real summons.
>>714713942>Explain to tab target XIVfag in retard terms whatโs so apealing about this game?You don't have 100 actions per minute so combat is actually fun, not "practice your rotation for hours on a dummy and hope you do it the same way during a 15 min encounter" trannyism.
>>714714507that brief period when SAMs got 100% tp back for pentathrust was pretty funny though
>>714714109The XI /vm/ threads were ruined by private server players. When it was only retail there was almost no shitposting. Now it's all shilling from private server devs, schizo babble, and dramaposting garbage
I don't know why anyone would want to be a part of that
>>714714398>how fucking WAR was better than DRG in colibri parties regardless of DRG being THE polearm jobDRG is a healer.
>b-but I wanna-You are a healer.
>>714714564kek I do enjoy my bugs with this game
there was another time that curing undead instakilled them
>>714714537Well there is Rogue, thats the THF job. It was just implemented at a time where class > Job was still a thing, so it had to evolve into NIN unfortunately.
>>714713992I dunno man, if you're super sweaty and want the best job combos for every member of your party then good for you, but I don't think everyone is like that. I played with plenty of people who had silly combos and yeah maybe it wasn't ideal but it was fine
>>714714603People didn't think this in era, I had to fight them to do mamool ja as DRG/mage with a rdm or brd giving me refresh occasionally
>>714714578This, for a while it was a comfy hangout but now it looks like a slower version of the XIV thread. Endless drama posting from people who were too casual to make in in 75 cap retail.
>>714713942You chain your skill(s) with other people (or trust) to make a stronger skill. Every skill has its own property/element that better suited certain enemies' race/element so there's no set rotation for players, rather, it's for enemies. You make it easier by actually trying to communicate to other people, which one way to do it is using macros. (Un)fortunately, for Trusts it's basically automated but every trust has its own quirk and/or trigger which is more based on their personality. As always, wiki is your friend.
>>714714487This is a problem with FPS too, so many modern FPS are fast paced taking a thousand actions per minute and there's no more room for the guy who just wants to hold the snipers nest for 20 minutes
>>714714326god DAMN look at that smug face on that qt3.14
>>714714696I rolled my eyes everytime a DRG shows up /WAR or /SAM. /BLU or bust
>>714714463No one disputes that Abyssea was handled extremely poorly, but making this argument implies that the only valid alternative was to keep the cap at 75 forever. Horizontal gear progression is great, but you can only do that for so long while continuing to add content; eventually, you're not providing any real new challenges without requiring better gear, and at that point you're effectively just doing invisible item levels (which is what they were already starting to do in ToAU). The bandage had to get ripped eventually.
>>714713942Because it places more emphasis on timing abilities and without the need to spam normal attacks you can instead communicate with people.
I don't think it's perfect but I prefer it to the wannabe-RTS gameplay of other MMOs. CRPGs aren't real RPGs, they're bugman shit.
>>714714842based, you are my brother, fighting the good fight
>>714714603DRG was on the bench because it had poor weaponskills, poor elements assigned to them, sucked against every leveling enemy up until colibri, and was outdamaged anyway but endgame geared players on other jobs. You also didn't want to use it against HNM because the wyvern would simply feed TP.
Nah I'm good man I'm showing up to merit with my Ridill WAR.
>>714714882I don't buy it, Chains of Promathia had fights and dungeons capped at 40 and 50 and it was still beyond the skill level of the majority of players, more than half of players never completed CoP. There's plenty of ways to make challenging content without it being a gear check
>>714714916>Nah I'm good man I'm showing up to merit with my Ridill WAR.don't load up the parser bro, you might find you lose
it happened to me
genuinely wish I had my old kparser files from back in the day
>>714714882when most of your playerbase is connected to their characters and work over the years, you can not just throw that away, if they were going to increase the cap it needed to be done earlier, and in smaller increments, the fact they didnt do that and decided to switcheroo doomed themselves.
>>714714578So this is the power of private...
>>714713942Part of the fun is actually leveling your way past being a shitter with no resources who can only cast a spell now and then. As you progress, the number of frequency of your abilities also do. Even by early midgame you could get kino setups like multiple BLM's in a group each popping their major nuke on mobs in coordination, blowing them up before aggro or threat even became a factor.
>>714715008How did they make literally every single FFXI cutscene SOVL overload?? Was it the power of pre-woke nips?
>>714713992had a PLD/SMN show up to party once
refused to switch jobs
"feel free to find someone better"
we replaced him with a war/whm just to spite him
>>714714840She's simply the best
>>714715167ears way too far back on head, not the correct shape for Mithra ears anyway, shoulders dislocated. AI sucks
>>714715167>>714714578It was and still is like this on forums for ffxi
don't look at the retarded drama schizos on ffxiah
>>714715241One thing I never understood. Is Ulmia the one with the futa cock pounding Prishe every night or is Prishe the one with the futa cock pounding Ulmia?
>>714713476Anon you can literally go 1 year into the future (1.5 to be specific) and you have Lineage 2 which had quest items being turned in automatically when you talked to an NPC about the quest you were doing. And items being turned in automatically for quests you are doing has been a standard since forever in RPGs since long before FFXI. It's not a new vs old player problem it's a FFXI vs non-FFXI players problem.
>>714715362prishe is weak to anal, the nips told me so
>>714714398>>714714512>>714714672You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't try to strawman me. Everyone in the community knew what a normal party or job/subjob composition was. It was not controversial. Nobody complained or fought against it. It has nothing to do with being a tryhard elitist, it has to do with common sense and not wanting to waste people's time. You didn't need to run a damage parser or browse forums to figure out what was and wasn't acceptable, it was obvious.
It's only now, today, for some reason, when you go on 4chan and talk about FFXI, these retarded soibois come out of the woodwork to say, "YOU CAN MAKE ANYTHING WORK! DON'T LISTEN TO THE SWEATLORDS!" According to these retards, 99% of players are elitists.
No, they just have 4 hours to play and you're ruining everyone's time by being a dipshit.
>>714715362Ulmia is the little spoon (tall) while Prishe is big spoon (short)
>>714707409 (OP)I played through from launch down to seekers launch. I experienced the golden age. I'm not going to go back to ruin my good memories and make me miss them more.
>>714715165>doomed themselves>game still online and receiving updates
camping an NM like mee deggi while browsing neko-sentai was peak
>>714714882After redoing a lot of Abyssea content recently, I noticed a big problem in that a lot of the gear peaked early with some exceptions. Like Perle rivaling the best gear at the time. However with the later versions of abyssea they clearly wanted people to put time into Trials of the magians or whatever, which was awful. It really feels like they started to backpedal a lot with the gear and put a lot of the power into atmas.
Anyway, the end result was that they just returned to horizontal progression gear, but by that point everything outside of abyssea was pointless to do. They alienated the old player base just to create an abyssea addicted one, that infected the game for a very long time after that and they had trouble moving on from until ilvl.
>>714715551I'm so pissed that neko-sentai's image archive has no distinction between FF11 and FF14 files and they're all lumped together
>>714715486Nah that's just you honestly. Most people aren't that concerned about losing 3% speed in a game that's a slog anyway. Just means I get a few longer sips on my drink and can type a couple of extra messages.
You sound like an annoying cunt and a retard, maybe you should try streaming?
Playing retail now with a new character and it took me literally 26 days to achieve everything my first character did in 5 years.
I'm gonna play through all the stories that I never got to finish back in the day but I'm not sure if I will stay after that.
There is not enough footage of old school FFXI, i want to see what the game was like.
I joined Vanadiel just before abyssea was added, i did book parties in valkurm dunes and gusgen mines, i remember i was a noob and in my first dunes party i played war (because all i wanted to do was hit mobs) and i was using a sword and shield and a guy in my party told me that i needed to buy a great axe they are better for war.
>>714715486you are partially right, but i'd still grab the retard just to get some exp rolling in if it was dry out there, but most of the time im just gonna wait a bit longer and get a normalish job combo
>>714715779I remember I got a rabbit charm on my first kill as a lv20 thief right on NA release. Good times.
>all those elitist cunts getting LM-17'd over salvage cheating
i came
Imaging playing the abominable trash XI retail is instead of Horizon XI
>>714715931um bro what do you mean
/acmd leave
that treasure pools aren't supposed to duplicate?
I miss when games had limited fast travel. I miss when being in a specific location had weight to it.
Fuck I really wanna play again.
I didn't finish RoV and I would like to play through it and maybe do some endgame shit.
I am reaaaaally considering it right now.
>>714716021Chocobo raising was kino because you got to have a limited use mount that you spent actual months making and if you made it right, it could run as fast but last longer than a normal chocobo
sucks it cost 1k/charge though
>>714715798the best ffxi videos used to be the ones from the all blm LS on bismarck, black angels.
and avesta
>>714715289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntIsEkV-UEk
White internet drama was an artform.
>>714715798Well FFXI released before youtube so that does pose a problem. You can find blurry 120p videos of the early days but recording wasn't great and streaming didn't exist back then.
FFXI was too good that SE made an offline version and called it FF12, they never did that for FFXIV
>>714716224hell yeah ticko still aint got shit
>>714716021Convenience is generally bad for us all, but it's antithetical to MMOs
>>714716343FF12 is my favorite game of all time and im surprised people think its shit. The world feels so lived in and the exploration is done so well, even better than true open world games.
I think if jobs changed your outfit like in picrel it would be an absolutely perfect game.
>>714716089It's worth seeing the story through at the very least. Then you could always decide afterwards if you wanna try gearing up and breaking into content. Ambuscade is a good place to start, then moving up to entry level stuff like just doing trash mobs in Omen for job cards and easy objectives in Sortie for the currency to upgrade JSE.
>>714716508FF12 would be god tier if it wasn't piss easy. That's the big difference between classic XI and XII. And the more features they add to XII with releases the easier it gets
https://fafnir.ytmnd.com/
https://deletejesus.ytmnd.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20160512065328/http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j12/cougar9194/FFXIRidill.swf
Lets say I want to play retail. What is a fun job for people who like to actually react to shit and provide uncommon utility instead of just doing the same thing every battle? I like to lean towards support roles but i'd play anything if the job design is interesting enough.
>>714715931my favorite livejournal got banned ; ; (but it was comfy reading his thoughts)
>>714716682it doesn't matter, you can change jobs whenever you want
>>714716743>my favorite livejournal got bannedrichardd?
>>714716547I do not know if gear changes for Ambu, but I had a couple of ambu sets, one being +1 from what I remember.
I think my issue is that I do not know what I would do, I am a checklist kind of guy, and while you gave me very good pointers, I guess I'd need to check what the "progression" would be and have it in a checklist.
But hey, for what it is worth, I do appreciate you giving me those things to do, I at least now know where to begin looking.
>>714714234all the jobs in 14 suck massive cock compared to 11. i have no idea why they made them so fucking boring and samey to play. it's my #1 gripe with 14
>>714716682PUP, maybe BLU.
Puppetmaster is a pet job that has a buildable puppet that can fulfill any role and allows you to fine tune their behavior and stats/skills with components. BLU is well, a real Blue Mage that has access to I believe a couple hundred spells, you are primarily a DPS but your spells allow you to do just about anything in conjunction with your sword damage.
>>714714234What's most hilarious to me is that XIV finally implemented a real job with Blue Mage but then you're not allowed to actually use it for anything because it would be broken
>>714713942It's an RPG. It's about character building, team composition, and strategy more than about raw execution. If you don't like RPGs then you will never understand it.
>>714707409 (OP)No, I've never played it and don't really have an interest in MMOs anymore.
>>714716975How's PUP doing nowadays?
When I came back in covid I got PUP up there, and while I still have a fuckton of solo content to do and go through, I was having a lot of fun with it.
>>714715670>Nah that's just you honestlyNo. I have 15,000 hours in FFXI and spent most of my time helping newbies and just hanging out with casual players. And not a single person thought you were a tryhard for using the obviously best subjobs or playing a job in a role that made sense. Stuff like that just spread across the community. There were actual elitists who refused to play with people who didn't have the best gear or wouldn't party with DRGs or THFs or something like that, but that was like 2% of the community. /v/ makes it sound like people who subbed WAR on PLD or played RDM as a support were these rare, annoying, awful cunts - it was the exact opposite. The rare, annoying, awful cunts were the ones intentionally playing the game wrong for no reason.
>>714715843Sure, so would I. I didn't care if someone was bad at the game. That's why I accomplished so little.
>>714717151It's quite strong, it suffers from H2H weapons being weaker than the rest but it's options for soloing content make it a lot of fun to play. Overdrive goes really fucking hard.
>>714717270Didn't they change some of the H2H """recently""" to not make it as shit?
I am not saying it is now on the same level as other weapons, but I do remember reading they did change some shit for them.
>>714713992I got to level 60 as a RDM/THF, cope.
>>714716682Difficult to gauge just how "uncommon" you wanna go but Blue Mage, Dancer, Red Mage, Puppetmaster, and Beastmaster would be my initial suggestions going off the cuff.
>>714716894Much of the ambuscade armor has been powercrept but they're still very solid starter sets to get to +2 because of all the accuracy and some defensive stats. Some of the ambuscade weapons meanwhile still remain highly relevant and competitive. If you're looking for something checklisty for progression, getting your jobs' artifact, relic, and empyrean armor reforged & upgraded is typically always relevant. It varies from job to job but many of them see use still, if not in TP or WS sets plenty have utility to slap on when activating relevant job abilities. The empyrean reforged sets in particular become very solid gearsets once you do Sortie a bit to get them to +2. Lot of accuracy, attack, magic attack, some big chunks of Damage Taken -%... very handy for people who haven't or aren't able to yet do Odyssey bosses.
https://jponry.ytmnd.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh9VFS2pL_M
I cri everytim
I think I got to the level 65 limit break quest where you have to run through 3 beastmen strongholds and I couldn't be bothered with that shit.
How does Japanese people play this game? do they use windwer? i don't think i have ever seen a Japanese streamer use windower plugins/addons but they have good gear....how do they swap gear?
>>714717552https://web.archive.org/web/20080913010141/http://www.jpbutton.com/?p=551
>>714717463Hey man, thank you very much
And lastly, would you advice me to keep gearing my PUP up? I honestly had a lot of fucking fun playing PUP, kept me engaged, and well if the time comes and I do decide to do endgame party content, I'd love to do it as a PUP.
>>714716682COR, you will be in demand and you will be doing the same thing for 90% of your career.
I guess depending how strict you want to get it's not the same every single encounter as prebuffing for encounters has you doing rolls which are essentially black jack so obviously you will get different results, but a lot of players (I don't but I'm a rarity) just automate their rolls for what's worth and wasn't isn't pursuing.
But outside of that every battle is basically the same, prebuff rolls, walk in melee hit savage blade every 10 seconds. Die because malignance refuses to fucking drop so you have no - damage taken gear like everyone else and party still succeeds anyways because rolls are 90% the reason to bring you.
I wish I could play classic FFXI without having to deal with all of the unemployed turbo autists that infest Horizon.
>>714707608>someone shittalks you>XIVXIVXIVWow.
>>714718312I just realized I read this backwards and you want something different every encounter. Ignore that.
Play whm, sch, or rdm. Bitches will be on your dick and love you and you do something different every fight and super conditional.
>>714717789You can basically do it with the ingame equipsets and setting up macros to call on the equipsets by their #. It's actually how I play SMN lol.
>>714718089You bet meng. In regards to PUP, sadly I've never really dabbled with it personally but I know from secondhand knowledge that PUP is capable of some unique stuff with their automaton. As other anons have said, H2H falls a bit behind the top tier DD jobs but they're still very solid. I play MNK a lot and enjoy it a great deal. If you enjoy it, certainly keep going for it. If you plan to keep going further, one thing I always advise people is its good to eventually work on at least 1 other role (like a support) so you have more options for participating in party content where DD slots are usually taken very fast or pre-filled.
I got filtered by the expectation that you swap gear sets for every ability come endgame. Kinda unfun to me
>>714719053It's a blessing and a curse
It makes a lot of niche gear much more useful but I won't deny that it just feels kind of silly
>>714718827Yeah I remember pulling some extremely nasty numbers and other shit with the automaton during ambus with PUP (not ultra endgame numbers, but you know what I mean)
I guess for now I will just keep working on PUP, I have a lot of solo content to go through and might as well do it on a job I enjoy.
>>714719053honestly if you didn't know most people just automate it and a lot of ability swaps are literal one piece of your JSE armor typically. There's absolutely a tedium in editing your lua's but it also isn't the worst thing in the world.
Though do make sure to remember to upload your gear files to like a google drive before you take a break from the game.
>>714719439real men did it with in game macro swaps
>>714719053making luas is the endgame for me
i love it so much
i love optimizing, my autism is utterly, completely satisfied by it
>>714719791Where can I find the best guide for making them? Luas for retards is what I need.
>>714720337the easiest way is to copy someone elses lua for the job/era/server you're interested in and just put in your gear instead
>>714720769Pictured: me and my Adventuring Fellow
>>714720769>F Evlaan pubic hair windowuhh based department?
>>714721053Tanaka knew what he wanted
>>714721431what an utterly worthless item
some R/E items in ffxi are just confusing
>>714721431valkurm dunes god mode activated
>>714721543Usually any item with stat modifiers is preferable to one that doesn't and stat modifying items are extremely rare before level 35-40. This would be god tier in taking WAR or PLD through the early levels
>>714714234XIV SMN's biggest problem is that it's specifically designed for raidtrannies and roulette heroes that want to spam their way through content without having to think about anything other than hitting every button as it comes off cooldown. They fixed the >can't summon anything issue by changing the egis into actual summons, but it doesn't change the fact that they just show up for a second and then disappear.
>>714721971bro... your filename... it's over...
>>714719439>Though do make sure to remember to upload your gear files to like a google drive before you take a break from the game.I did this but forgot to back up my macros. I /shutdown right after I realized.
>>714722027It's a screenshot from 3 years ago bwo...it doesn't really matter
>>714721971Built for instant loss
>>714721971I wish there was more adult fan content of the non-unique model NPCs.
I want to see Nanaa Mihgo get put in her place
>>714714234they had to scrap the old summoner for BST, please understand
I'm sure it's going to be the same shit
>add BST>just give them three jars or something>call it a day
>>714722519>NIN>But not DRG
What the fuck is up with BSTs in the current version of XI anyway? There are very few written resources for it. Seems like an extremely mechanically complex class that has no function except to be a subpar DD now that their solo capability is moot
>>714722602>Literally human rights equipment for being allowed to play DPS the second you're leveled enough to equip it
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>>714722602>Sorry goyim, this is the best I can do for you in WoTG btw
>>714722370Endless sex with mommy Shantotto
>>714722651Pretty much BST got powercrept the fuck out past 75 even at what it was good at.
So lots of people just dropped it and nobody cared to keep up with any kind of documentation.
Also, BST kind of depends a bit on the market economy, and because not a lot of people care to play BST at all, it is a problem that feeds into itself.
>Lion (Hume)
>Prishe (Elvaan)
>Aphmau (Hume)
>Lillisette (Hume/Elvaan hybrid)
>Ariciela (Hume)
>Iroha (Hume)
Why is S-E so racist? Why did we never get a Mithra heroine?
>>714722651They can be competent when played properly, some of the jug pets have unique debuff utility. Yes they might not be a top optimal pick but with proper pet skill useage you can indirectly buff your parties output via debuffs.
>>714722997Um sir, your catboy?
>>714723081get oozed idiot.png
I started playing it a couple months ago, been on a bit of a break, whens the next free login?
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>>714722997I consider her the heroine of the xpac
>>714722807does BST still have the weirdness with groups? I remember they were shunned in general for that shit
I wouldn't mind going back for BST/NIN stupidness at max level
>>714723383Adoulin has this smokeshow but all the fanartists had quit the game by that point.
>>714707509All of these replies exemplifies the fact nobody plays FF14 for the lore and just uses it as another fashion hangout game
>>714707409 (OP)Sorry I meant to post this.
>>714723585this has an mmo? why?
>>714723537XI wasn't really a story focused game, most of the "story" was just you uncovering deeper worldbuilding and the history of the world. Not to mention the story is very careful to place the player as just "an adventurer" and not a famous hero who has saved the world singlehandedly. Plus many people didn't even complete the story because they couldn't clear the battles
>>714723537The fuck are you babbling about?
>>714723537>All of these replies exemplifies the fact nobody plays FF14 for the lore and just uses it as another fashion hangout gameI.. agree?
>>714716426Thank you 18 year old youtube videos, just completed that.
>>714713476Don't even try to defend this shit anon. I like FFXI but there is absolutely no reason for this shit. Runescape figured it out in 2001, as the other anon said, L2 had it almost a year later. Plenty of games just gave the items you needed to the NPC that required them. Even worse is the pointless 1 at a time shit for certain NPCs, I don't remember if it was Selbina or some other town but trading flowers 1 at a time serves absolutely no purple other than the devs being lazy and not touching up code in spots where it makes sense. Trading being slow and clunky in 2025 doesn't add to the charm to the game at all
>>714716426I just started playing two months ago. I know my friend was giggling when he told me to grab a beer for the mountain climb because holy shit that was definitely an experience
>>714724667frankly its like putting your hand into a blender willingly
A masochist's dream
>>714724513Actually it makes perfect sense that giving items to NPCs is covered under a universal command that you can even put into a macro, and not just a wishy-washy per-case basis. But maybe I just feel that way because I actually know computer science.
>>714707409 (OP)The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be. Gas the WoWtards!
>>714724513FFXI was designed with Everquest as a reference, and in Everquest you traded the items to NPCs as you did players. You can also just write a macro if you want to do a mass of turn ins.
>>714724513It is undefendable, but retarded jank in japanese MMOs is somehow the norm when, as you said, runescape already figured most of that shit out already a decade ago.
>>714726026>but retarded jank in japanese MMOsYou mean Everquest?
>>714723776Right, most of the story was about some high school student with a lack of extracurriculars trying to survive the trenches of buttfucking Yhoator Jungle. It was an ACTUAL MMO, the point of which was the PLAY in a massively multiplayer fashion.
>>714722602>Dragoon>Dragon Knight>can't wear knight armorthe greater injustice is still how BLU can't wear Hecatomb despite it being in their armor class but fucking BRD can
>>714722602Get in your Scorpion Harness, pleb!
>>714726089Yeah and doom had keyboard aiming, stop being retarded and thinking archaic mechanics when they had been innovated upon years ago.
Can't pick a job. It all just seems pointless when linkshells can pick from a stable of fully optimized specialists whenever the need arises. The days of coming in clutch with my BLU tank build that no one expected me to have are over.
>>714726343It's not archaic when the mechanic is still standard when your game is released, let alone during development. What year do you think FFXI released in? The mechanic also functions perfectly well. Keep boiling for me and stay filtered.
>>714710847FFXI takes a lot from EQ which had trading to NPC work like that
>>714726357Similar to other MMOs, play what you like. But I understand where you're coming from, I was the THF Treasure Hunter whipping boy but I actually liked it for what is was worth. Wonder what life would have been like if I wanted to do something else
>>714726357Just pick whatever you think is fun, if everyone is already better at you at everything because of time, might as well just pick something you enjoy gearing up and want to play at some point.
I understand what you mean, kinda sucks to go for a job, finding a LS and then someone else with that job but maxed out shows up and you feel like "welp what's the point?" but there's still a lot of solo content to go through, and it is always better to do it with a job you enjoy than one you do not at all.
>>714711323You can play X, X-2 and XII
>>714726357I kind of wish there was a job all about positioning, crowd control and getting mobs in the correct spot, kind of like Warlord in D&D 4e.
I thought GEO would be a fun positioning based job but the positioning in this game isn't really deep enough to make it play significantly differently to BRD
>>714726026>>714726343>THIS IS SO FUCKING ARCHAIC JANKY CLUNK WHAT THE FUCK WHY ISN'T IT LIKE WORLD OF WARCRAFT WHY DO I HAVE TO ADJUST TO A DIFFERENT SYSTEM HOLY SHIT FUCKING ZIPPERHEAD FUCKS GET YOUR HEADS ON STRAIGHT AND MAKE IT LIKE WORLD OF WARCRAFT BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW TO FUCKING TRADE
>>714726357??? just play the game. you don't need to be specialized or even do end game stuff. this is autist-tier end game shit where you swap gear for every skill you do. most people don't play it like that.
>>714726556The same year ragnarok online released in, which did detect the items in your inventory automatically for quest turn ins.
>Race Galka
>Job BLU
>Max HP Merits
>Undead Swarm
>Giant's Drink chugged
>my target? Heat Breath into a crowd fighting Lamia No.21
*SSSSSIP* AYEP it's Besieging time
>>714726887His point is it wasn't archaic back then.
>>714726887That's nice but Everquest was not only still only a mere 3 years old when FFXI came out, it was the largest MMO in the world and trading items was standard and not seen as anything strange.
>>714707409 (OP)I'd love to play this game. As I intend with all FF mainline games. But I've never played an MMO before. Hopefully there's some offline version I can play to experience the story
>>714707409 (OP)I have been. I remember trying it and even having difficult to control my character on pc. lmao
>>714727637You can play it like a very expansive single player RPG right now.
Controller is definitely better than keyboard
Reminder that the most popular FFXI streamer is Ninja
>>714727964literally who is that
>>714723537wtf are you talking about
this is an ff1 thread
>>714727940Seconded, controller just is very comfy for this game
>>714726930um hello? based department??
>>714726874pretty much
>>714713476Kids aren't used to using common sense, it's the most straightforward and obvious mechanic, simply click trade and hand it to a npc the way you would a player, but peoples minds have been warped by babified features for decades.
>>714728402>>714728475I'm pretty sure it was the XIV troon from 4 hours ago who came back to check on his shitposts, saw he got no replies to the lore question, tried to make it a negative against XI, but ended up having a freudian slip and dunking on XIV in the most accurate depiction of XIV players possible, then disappeared out of embarrassment.
>>714728708Every now and then you see WoW players jump into these threads to attempt to shitpost because they don't understand roman numerals. It's pretty funny to be honest.
I could talk about this game forever, it was basically my adolescence defining game after I saw it in Toys R Us at times square back around 2005 maybe? Big stack of FFXI PS2 boxes and I had never played a final fantasy game except FFX before, I was a Nintendo kid growing up and the PS2 was my first playstation console.
Got my parents to get one for me and took it home and instantly got addicted. This kid from my school told me to play Mithra after I told him I got the game and he played too, I joined Fairy server which he was on. I mained WAR but leveled up most of the jobs to the 40s and 50s.
I still listen to the music pretty often, it has so much nostalgia for me. I played all the way until the ToAU came out, and by that time I had graduated high school and went to college so I didn't really have time to play anymore so I just kind of stopped one day. FFXI was like my entire social life in high school, I didn't really have friends in school so all of my friends that I talked to every day were in FFXI and our linkshell. I think by the time I had quit many of my friends in the game also had quit or hadn't logged on in a while. I eventually lost all the login info I had for my character, as years later I wanted to try playing it again but couldn't find the paper I had written down everything on and since the old computer I played it on was long gone it was hopeless. I still kind of get angry at myself for losing that as I have gone back and played FFXI with a new character over the years, though I haven't played it again in almost a decade. But I just want to look at my friends list again, I honestly can't even remember the names of my best friends in the game outside of a few but I had dozens of people I chatted with every day and only can remember a few of their names now.
Even when I tried logging on with my new character a few years ago almost all the people I had been playing with in the mid 2010s had also been inactive for years as well.
>>714728402>four-hundred-and-seven FF games later>never managed to out-do the first
>>714728402Garland is a bitch ass motherfucker
>>714728801Nah, pretty sure it was a zivtroon
>>714729045you can say many things about them but they don't hate their own game enough to shitpost about it on this board, also the fact that they pointed out the story means that it's someone who isn't used to having a story in a MMO and wanted to shout down people trying to talk about it
>>714711070>Literally no one cares if you play XI or not,You do, which is why you made a thread begging for people to play your game? lol
Self-awareness: OFF
>>714725694>But maybe I just feel that way because I actually know computer science.You feel this way because you enjoy being a contrarian, don't beat around the bush
>>714725694>tfw you can't trade multiple items to an NPC with /tradeneed an addon for that, thanks trump
>>714707509Magicite was beyond kino and the best mission and I'm tired of pretending it's not
Also I redid cop recently and learned promathia's blood or w/e is seeping through the crystal line which is what forms magicite or something and it makes the races go to their racism side. pure kino
>>714729372>gets BTFO 4 hours ago>comes back to say "n-n-no U!!"Embarrassing, I will accept your concession nonetheless.
>>714729556>Use the trade function to hand an item to a NPC the same way you would a player.or
>Click NPC>Multiple UI boxes pop up>Scrolling text warns you that you are about to trade an item>The NPC has a UI window showing you which item it wants>The item you want to trade is highlighted in your inventory panel>When you click the item to drag it over you are rewarded with a cheering crowd sfx>If you click the wrong item you are blasted with sirens, horns, warning signals, and fart sounds>Upon successfully trading the item to your chosen NPC all 15 windows that had to be opened to facilitate the process are now closedI fucking hate zoomers get off my lawn.
>>714715798>book parties in ValkurmFUCKING NEWFAG
You are a REAL FFXI fanboy if you don't remember "GOB TO ZONE" shouts
>>714729806>being a reductionist AND using a strawmanI accept your concession, also older than you, also played xi longer
>>714729806>If you click the wrong item you are blasted with sirens, horns, warning signals, and fart soundsYOU IDIOT! YOU MOTHERFUCKER! HOW COULD YOU PICK THE WRONG ITEM? ARE YOU STUPID? YOU SHOULD UNINSTALL BUT STAY SUBBED!
SHIT SQUARE ENIX!!!
>>714729806Beautiful strawman anon.
>>714729712Yeah, all of the Five Races have a piece of Promathia's soul in them. When they die, the parts of them traveling to the Mothercrystals in the crystal line can leak out and form magicite. The magicite can provoke the aspect of Promathia's soul in people nearby. The Five Races and the beastmen also don't get along because the beastmen don't bear Promathia's darkness and they're fundamentally incompatible because of that.
Odin's crystal is also made of darkness, so he can provoke the darkness in a person's soul in the same way, which is what happened in the Northlands expedition. And then when Rabntah made the Bow of Light out of a shard of Odin's crystal it provoked the envy in the Mithra race and they nearly genocided themselves over it.
>>714729917>"GOB TO ZONE" shoutsLike tears in the rain... I will miss the days where you could park your chocobo at the Yhoator to Yuhtunga zoneline and watch the slaughter of the goblin smithy deleting billions of exp...
>>714729917>goblin drops a bomb at the outpost>the entire outpost dies
>>714729923>>714729930You can explain to the class how the series of actions below are too difficult for you to understand.
>Target NPC>Hit enter (or your controller button)>Read the menu options that pop up>Select Trade >Input item>Click OK
>>714730298it just IS, okay??
>>714729917XIfags and EQfags should marry already
>>714730298Never said it was difficult.
Your other post is still a retarded strawman.
In most games all you do is talk to the NPC, choose the dialogue option for the quest you're doing and you're done.
dialog options? in my ffxi?
It's less likely than you think
XI is making me want to go back to windows. I want to play XI again but on the server I play on they allow CurePlease and all the healers use CurePlease but I can't get CurePlease to work with it on Linux.
Maybe its for the best, if I could get CurePlease working I'd have already been sucked back in.
>>714730597XI has a lot of dialogue options tho.
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>>714730781>he doesnt write his own curebotwhat are you, gay?
also cureplease might work if you launch ffxi and cureplease from lutris using the same instance with pic related, but i already wrote my own curebots that work purely in lua
i miss my old mithra e-gf
Is this thread just a bunch of 35+ year old men? Who else still plays XI nowadays?
>>714728921>nu-/v/ dicksucks negro twitter tier shitposts about a character that isnt in a game they havent played
>>714731080tranny-kun, I... you realize you're going to age too right?
>>714731192the good ol' days of fortnite in 2045...
>>714731081What did he mean by this?
>>714730940I tried that CurePlease just errors and says it can't find EliteAPI.DLL and EliteAPIMMO.DLL
>>714731640if you get me a download link I can try to fuck with it to make it run
I have ideas, but i've never used it before. I made my lua cure bots aeons ago so I just never needed to try it
>>714731702https://github.com/DanielHazzard/Cure-Please/releases/tag/v2.0.4.4
and the DLLs
https://ext.elitemmonetwork.com/downloads/eliteapi/
https://ext.elitemmonetwork.com/downloads/elitemmo_api/
>>714732007ok I reproduced the problem at least, when you click the start button or whatever it fails instantly
>>714716426>mfw you have to do it a second time in Abyssea for the zone clear
>>714732497Yeah, pretty much. I've only been using Linux for about a year now and I'm afraid I'm too low INT when it comes to stuff like this. Unless someone else has a guide that I can find from googling I get lost. I have no idea how people figure this shit out on their own, let alone write their own curebots. Writing Ashitacast scripts is about the limit of my computer science ability.
>>714717151PUP is fucking great for Gaol fights. The puppet can solo tank a lot of bosses or hold adds forever while you DPS.
>>714732810I went and did it again just to 100% abyssea even though I hate it
They added some NPCs that run around the tricky parts like when you have to turn around, but if anything they confused me more than anything
>>714719053If you are a melee DD, you can do this entirely using in-game macros and gear sets. No tools or addons needed.
For basic spellcasting the same applies, but note that once you get into full pre-cast / mid-cast stuff it gets harder without using tools.
You don't need to go 100% down the rabbit hole of having 50 sets for everything and every conceivable situation, but having dedicated sets for each main WS you use is absolutely required for DD.
>>714732829Imagine the nightmare that would be installing FFXI + Windower/Ashita on Linux
Can this even be done using lutris or proton?
I'm honestly curious.
>>714733174I play on CatsEyeXI and they had a specific tutorial for how to set it up on linux.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3xHlnCeBA
I imagine trying to get retail to work is possible too, just might take a few more steps.
>>714732810>game for the PS2 with a cutscene made in 2013 looks better than XIV cutscenes in 2025How did they do it?
sup bacon, sup ino. playing smtv now. it's much better than I thought
>>714733174I can octobox+ on linux, its just more finicky than windows (tools that you'd normally use have to be remade)
>>714733380By actually giving a shit and having passion
>>714733554The event director staff for XI were definitely passionate. Every single quest in the game has cutscenes with animations, camera angles, lighting, etc. A simple quest in Sandy for turning in bear asses starts with a stylistic shot of a torch burning on the wall, then pans down to show your character strolling into the shot and an NPC nearby waves at you and you begin speaking with them. Its fucking nuts.
>>714733735Dang that does sound cool.
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>>714732829ok. it looks like this program is coded like shit
you need to run "Cure Please.exe" with the same directory as the launch (see pic, empty working directory will do the same job)
basically, duplicate your Catseye or retail or whatever Lutris config with right click -> duplicate and change the main executable to CurePlease.exe
you may also need winetricks of vcrun2012/vcrun2013/vcrun2022
My only real regret I feel about the life of FFXI is that it got "frozen" in the state it is a little too early. I wish they had actually invested into UI and graphic updates in 2005, so that the baseline now would be a little better looking and easier to interact with. It would've gone a long way for longevity. I'm also glad the mobile version got canceled, because a different take on the world would've tainted/ruined my memories of the PC version.
>>714733502>octobox+There is something appealing about playing FFXI as a full party of your own characters, especially if you got FFXII-like gambits that let you finetune their AI. I don't think I'd ever stop playing a game like that.
>>714734216this function is written poorly (intended for windows users, probably) It should get current exe path and check near it, but instead it just checks wherever the current working directory is. There's better ways to do this too, but oh well
https://github.com/DanielHazzard/Cure-Please/blob/c3202ccf53da4f73e7b91129902a6e56f2a07ae2/Form1.cs#L3223
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yeah cureplease definitely can work on loonix. neat.
>>714734216>>714734434Thank awesome, I'm going to have to reinstall and try again. Last time I tried was like a month ago and I nuked the folder accidentally in the process of trying to get it to work.
Does the plug-in work? That was always finicky on windows already. How about if I want to run a second instance of cureplease? Make another duplicate of the lutris entry and run it again? What I used to do is roll WHM/SCH on one character and BRD/WHM on another.
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>>714734621>How about if I want to run a second instance of cureplease? Make another duplicate of the lutris entry and run it again?yeah, that'd probably work
I also did pic related but I dont think it's necessary. I just didnt know that error message was about the program being written weirdly
>>714707409 (OP)>DT failed so hard shills now promote the 20 year old previous game insteadgrim
>>714734831who? DT is damage taken in FFXI speak
>>714734681Yeah that was the first thing I tried doing it myself back when I was trying to fix it a month ago, I cloned it but I didn't set the Wine prefix like that. So despite my low-INT I was surprisingly close.
>>714734595If you don't mind, try clicking that red AddOn button, that was always an issue on windows, you have to enable the add-on in the settings menu first, I couldn't get two CurePlease instances working at the same time only one of them would connect to the Add-On at a time.
so I'm running a local server of lsb, what would be the best job/jobcombo for solo play. i've seen PUP get mentioned a couple of times as a good choice.
>>714734831Delkfutt's Tower never failed, it's a kino dungeon.
>>714735087I wouldn't expect PUP to work properly at all on LSB.
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>>714734947>If you don't mind, try clicking that red AddOn buttonseems to work on my machine
>>714735195It works better than you'd think, though not everything is implemented
>>714735087Pure solo (as in, without Trusts), then yes, RDM all the way. If Trusts are working then just play whatever.
>>714735346Thanks awesome, reinstalling now, that Addon is required for it to remove debuffs and shit like that, kinda important, though not entirely essential. I have a Yagrush which made removing debuffs pretty easy even if doing so manually is so much slower than the bot.
>>714733868You should see all the tiny details they put into the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxxuMo_H6Y0
>>714735134>>714735698guess i'll run RDM then, i do have trusts set up but as much as i like my shantotto 2 i don't want to rely on them too much, i'd rather only use them when i really really need them.
>>714735896I wish I could visit Vana'diel, such a lovely world. It unironically feels like home to me.
>>714732810aby one is actually easier though.
>>714736038I wish I had all my original screenshots still.
>>714735087>>714735134 On my server I set every weapon to be level 1 and I gave myself an Excalibur and a K-Club and played as a RDM/NIN. It was so much fun spamming requiescat throughout the story.
>>714715798there is tons of footage but you'll have to scroll and dig through youtube accounts. Usually if an account uploaded an FFXI video 15+ years ago, they have more on their account just sitting there with <1000 views.
I typed in "ffxi drk 75" for example and found this after scrolling the search a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qPXGruD5jA
They have a few more Maat fight videos on their channel too.
>>714736529>I typed in "ffxi drk 75" for example and found this after scrolling the search a bit.Just put "before:2009" in the search bar.
>>714734831>the barry blizzdrone boogeyman keeps revising this thread and checking his hours old shitposts, can't get any reactions because nobody gives a shitoof, bro stick to hunting down XIV threads, nobody here gives a fuck, we're all straight adults.
>>714716426The funniest part about that thing was that the best prize(an incredible recovery item completely unique to the challenge) requires a time that's impossible to achieve without cheating, so anyone who got the item in their inventory was insta-banned.
>>714736848I cheated and got one of those and used it at a kirin and was never banned
though I got it in early 2005/6 iirc
>>714736585>Just put "before:2009" in the search bar.89K VIEWS JESUS CHRIST
>>714737191I'm not typing that title into my search bar.
>>714736529A few years ago youtube deleted a bunch of old "inactive" accounts. My bookmark folder lost about 25% of it's links in an instant.
>>714737402I hate google
"do no evil"...
>>714737389I didn't either, but I was looking for old FFXI videos and scrolled all the way down....
>>714737191>89k spics and pedosThe absolute state of FFXI
>>714735102my first JP onry party was in lower Delk's tower because two of the JP players never purchased Zilart. It was so good I still remember it, it also taught me that JP players had to buy rotz while it came for free on NA, kek
>>714735896And even more than that video showed. Certain things would change through the game year, like watching the rolanberries and grapes in Rolanberry Fields ripen over time. Or the reason that fire weather was so hard to come by when you're doing the SMN unlock is because it's only really active around summer in Vana'diel, before they added dedicated zones for it to be more common in.
>>714736038https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohg11ZbcQ1s
>>714737562yeah RoTZ is a footnote on the front of the box for NA but there was a registration code. I remember early on there being forum posts on my LS about telling players to register if they wanted korroloka tunnel pts
>>714711697>>714707409 (OP)Your thoughts on AI upscaled mithra for Vanadiel's future?
https://files.catbox.moe/swael9.png
>>714707409 (OP)i really like this but now my bank just keeps declining everytime i try to sign up again and i just can't be fucked trying to fix it
>>714735102Every dungeon in XI is kino, I love how they all have tricks that don't show on the map that make them unique.
It would be even more kino if you actually had to fight through them instead of just sneak/invis or waiting until a high level though. Shit that made you actually battle thru the dungeons as intended, like getting the LB1 items, was maximum kino. I wish the dungeon crawling aspect of the game had more love put into it
>>714739230hume female rape
>>714707409 (OP)Yes. It was shit.
>>714739327damn... sorry you got filtered bro... you could have had a great time
>>714739327This is like your 10th post in the thread blizztroon, it's obvious.
>>714739397No I couldn't have. Fuck grind, fuck Everquest.
>>714739295All the races are hot it's a shame I had to pick just one
>>714739465sorry about your ADD, it must be tough playing anything but cod
I'm gonna make a Naegling before reset and then try to make the club for my Blue Mage next
I may be filtered from getting a lot of things by myself, but I'll be damned if I don't try
Fuck mercing
>>714739495>ADD means not tolerating bullshit timewastingWell shit, looks like people with ADD have it better.
>>714739540I'm so sorry...
>>714739540>ADD means not tolerating bullshit timewastingAll video games are bullshit timewasting you midwit, do you think playing an FPS is any less of a timewaster?
>>714739140Interesting, but I'll always prefer og style. Upscales and HD mods just always feel off to me.
>>714739501Good job anon. It kind of sucks how overpowered Naegling is but its a powerful and useful weapon to have available. Club is definitely worth getting as well for BLU nuking/cleaving.
>>714713942Party skillchains and magic burst teamwork and SATA autism from the thief in very dangerous areas. Going on hours long adventures to do quests, getting lost and having fun figuring out things that aren't explained and pushed into my face every 5 minutes
I kinda want to get back to horizon to prepare for toau to play pup when it comes but also I'm not sure I wanna bother
>>714739501The Tier 3 Behemoth in Escha - Zi'Tah is fairly easy to solo and is cheap to spawn (5 plutons). Expect to fight him anywhere from 20-60 times before seeing a pulse drop, though.
Can I get Genmei Shield solo?
>>714739882>implying this is the same thing as loading a game up with grind for the sake of padding sub numbers
>>714740451I kneel...
>>714740528If you are getting it for the PDT, Genbu's shield is basically almost as good. I can't comment on if it's soloable or not, but if it's anything like OG Genbu it will die like a bitch to a magic setup
>>714707509It turns out the 2 rulers of the neutral city are actually the last members of the ancient race you have been hearing about for ages. They have been working towards a goal for hundreds of years. They finally gain access to the ancient flying city they remember from their childhood, and are going to use its great power to do their ultimate plan of fucking off to paradise. They are actually kind of bros and offer to take you with them since you basically helped them along the way before they revealed their plan would fuck shit up for everyone left behind. You are like, nah, this chick, lion who is super hot wants me to defeat you, so you do
>>714721543R/E was cool because it was like pokemon just gotta catch em all, although it was used as a band aid patch to good items to kill the markets like speed>velocious belt
>>714740528Depends on your gear but he's not super threatening, the big thing is how tanky he is. Probably doable with trusts if you can setup skillchains for Shantotto II and Matsui-P trusts to magic burst but it may take a bit.
>>714740932Paradise isn't a separate world, it's the world that existed when the Mothercrystals were all one big crystal. It's not guaranteed their plan is even physically possible and if it does work it means essentially everyone but them and you will cease to exist, the world as it is will cease to exist.
>>714741058>mfw I started last month and Shantotto II hasn't been offered for June or JulyI wish I had her for my first 99....
>>714741279Really dont know why they time limit all the trusts so much
Post your favorite slutty town gear. I'm a big fan of the T-shirt + swimsuit bottom look
>>714741486there is a GEO leg slot JSE from a HTBF that is basically just panties, it's a unique model
>>714741406It is meant to be a progression point as there is a quest once you have a lot of trusts that you can do which increases their base level a bit. Once you start doing 119 content, every bit helps because trusts will just crumple like tissue paper and basically only exist to give the player buffs / cures at that point.
>>714741486I love peeks of panties/subligar
>>714741279Yeah, it sucks how they gate the login points stuff to try and get people to stay subbed. Sadly you likely just missed the anniversary period where her and many others were available. She'll return soon enough. As other anon said once you hit iLvl content usually you primarily use trusts for healing/buffs/debuffs, but sometimes you can make Shanttotto doing magic bursts work out alright. Matsui-P is pretty good at bursting and can open skillchains for you, too.
>>714741486Ah, fashion. The true endgame of any video game.
>Portal had just started showing XI with a character right before it was canceled
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irW4Rr648fc
BUMMERRRRRRR
My alt was female but I never dressed her like a slut.
>>714707409 (OP)>No in-game cash to membershipFuck off.
I really liked how the armor looked in XI so I usually just wore full armor sets with /lockstyle
>>714742031What gloves are those? I can never find any I like with that top.
>>714742845Based Ullegore and armor enjoyer
>>714742890Bard empyrean gloves.
>>714742845The campaign gear looks great, I wonder how difficult it is to acquire in 2025.
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>>714742845still one of the most beautiful sets ever made in a video game along with AF2
>>714743093I havent checked, but I think you can convert RoE coupon shits into allied notes. So it would come down to your campaign rank.
Also, I believe most of those sets are only rare, not EX, so someone could buy them for you
>>714743212I loved the RDM AF2 set too
I actually had both an Aegis and an Excal, my LS buddies used to make fun of me because I almost never played tank so they mostly went unused.
>>714716975idk now, but back in Lv75 content I was commonly jumping between roles as BLU.
low levels BLU spaming headbutt for constant stuns, cocoon for low level defender w/o penalty, pollen for cure1 spam for survival and threat gen, you were the best of PLD and WAR for tanking.
healing was roughly on par with SMN/WHM healer, but with some actual tools to help.
BLU as a DPS only had a few spots it could do actual DPS levels of damage, otherwise it was subpar in its dmg output in most level ranges on most mobs. (but of course at endgame it was mostly a DPS)
I even acted as a support at Lv50+ a few times. I know /BRD is pretty bad, but when you have no refresher/ballad user, basic ballad1 in ToAU areas, with debuffs, sleep support, and throwing in heals to save the healers MP, is actually enough to get acceptable EXP (which is higher than if you were to sub THF or NIN or some DPS bullshit. your PT needs the MP refresh at 40+, the DPS you do wont make up for the MP gained from /BRDs ballad)
Can't have an FFXI video without this classic, cmon /v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fJCr2ZGdw
>>714741486>>714742054>>714742031I really hate how there is absolutely no gear in the entire game that just looks like normal casual shoes except the Bard artifact armor. I don't want to wear knee high boots all the time!
>>714722651SE does a bad job of providing pet jobs s with gear that boost the pet and the master at the same time. They made it so you have to have your fist up the ass of your monster to give it commands but they don't have any gear that really makes out both of your melee range survivability. The result is you summon for some utility buffs/debuffs and then make due with shit stats compared to the other, non-pet melee jobs. Pets are on a 5 to 20 minute cooldown too so you can't exactly swap on the fly or afford to let your pet drop.
Summoners and puppetmasters are similarly hosed when it comes to gear, but at least summoners can pull a new summon out of their ass on the fly. Automatons are also on a pretty long cooldown but at least their SP ability is fucking busted and you can either command them from a distance or keep them in the back providing support.
>>714707509Old man takes off his hat and says he is getting old like a tree and then he gives you his hat and the sickest title in the entire game
>>714744353Yeah the BRD af/relic shoes are really nice. I use them in a lot of glamours for my dualbox.
>>714744676Unfortunate truths. Pet jobs in current endgame are really hampered by how clunky and slow issuing commands is. As you say SMN at least can resummon stuff at will, but it still is clunky. I tried playing as SMN in sortie but it just kinda blows. Worst of all, using blood pacts doesnt count for helping with objectives (same as in Omen) which is absolutely retarded.
>>714739495I have ADHD and basically ruined my life by hyperfocusing on MMORPGs in my teens.
>>714727873Alright cheers
I'll go look it up. Shouldn't be too hard
>>714732810I still haven't done Abyssea to this day because of the stupid elemental procs
>>714730298Tedious =/= difficult, you can explain to the class why you weren't taught this in 2nd grade
>>714747106Common sense is common sense anon, it's not a difficult mechanic for someone to figure out. If it IS a difficult concept for you then you were probably born after FFXI released and grew up on your parents ipad.
>>714740774Should note genbu's actually has some uses genmei can't fulfill on mages due to scrap augmenting with synergy. Now mind you it isn't mindshattering it's literally 5% cure pot, 5% cure FC, or 6 MACC.
>>714748548Treasures was the best expansion.
tbqh there's no way to go through the game without a guide and that's a bad thing.
>>714751090Product of its time, the intent was to get players to communicate and cooperate, make the game feel more alive by making you actually interact with other people. You'd share information, strategies, tactics, and how to progress quests and the whole community would figure these things out together. It built a sense of shared struggle. Much of that is now lost as you just get this information on a wiki as you make solitary progress through an empty and dead game following step by step guides.
Guides and the wiki existed since conception but whatev
>>714707409 (OP)Monster hunter frontier was the best mmo though
Dragon's dogma online is 2nd
>>714749775Its hard to understate how much Rise of the Zilart added to the game. Much of the core FFXI experience and zones were added with Rise of the Zilart.
>>714716508You had to get a license to wear pants. It was retarded and shit.
>>714729985This is exactly the sort of thing that is completely missing from FFXIV and half of the reason why FFXIV is complete dogshit. Every single buttfucking thing comes back to CUZ HYDAELYN LOLOLOLOL and OMG DA WARRIOR OF LIGHT UR SO GRAYT!1!! and if it's not on screen as one of those exactly two things it may as well not exist. I'm pretty sure the last time Limsa or the Windhurst knockoff I can't even remember the name of were plot relevant was 1.0. And LOL'dah is utter fucking cancer every time you go there.
>>714751913No idea how tf people leveled in their early 20s without Quifim and Delkfutt's Tower
>>714751259It also required you actually work with your party members to do stuff like skillchains. IE It was ACTUALLY an MMO, and not anti-MMO 4-to-8-solo-rotation-mashers dogshit for zoomerito cretins like FFXIV
>>714752354Korroloka Tunnel
>>714707409 (OP)>14 lets you play the base game and two expansions, with no time limits>the game that's a decade older, ehh 14 days is good enough trial.
>>714751090As someone who is playing through the game from the start over the last month I think this element is vastly overstated. Literally the only quests that do not tell you exactly where to go are Maat's and those were meant to be a community effort anyway. As for drops and combat mechanics, those were also meant to be community efforts. tl;dr you only need guides for shit that was meant to be talked about with other players anyway.
>>714707409 (OP)Got filtered by the account creation and installation process.
Not interested enough to deal with it.
>>714749775It was kino and easier for my smooth brain to parse out than CoP but hiccups like
>shantotto filler>damn two hours with this bitch revenge kind of gay?>onii-chan told me he was sorry at the last minute after getting vacuumed so thank you all for wanting to become mass murderers for our sakewere kinda strange
Noillurie, Areuhat, Prishe
This is my holy trinity
>>714707409 (OP)I plan to play it for the length of the free trial after beating FFX. If I'm still having fun I'll get subscription, if not I'll start XII
>>714753656For me, it's Arciela, Lilisette, and Mumor
>>714753967She belongs to me, hands off.
Modern duty/dungeon finders really killed diversity of roles because now you are only ever allowed to be "dps" "healer" or "tank" and any nuance needs to be thrown out of the window to make these roles entirely interchangeable. In XIV/Wow the difference between a mage and a hunter or a ninja and a blm are entirely clientside now - as far as the encounter is concerned, you're just padding your designated dps/tank/healing meter with slightly different graphic effects and damage distributions.
>>714755275i mean you can form your own party and enter manully but theres 0 point with how streamlined and fast it is, might aswell just get it over and done with, the instanced content itself is just ass compared to doing stuff in the world
who lived in the big grape huts
>>714757497Mandragoras, they have a little city in the Boyahda Tree. In one of the Windy missions you visit their prison to talk to Ajido's dad.
>>714757640But you never actually see it? I wonder why it never got modeled when they designed it.
>>714707509Our reality of defeating the beastman army is actually a fake reality and it's bleeding into the true reality and people there are trying to destroy our fake reality and wake us up.
>>714759386The houses are in there, just look up. I don't think they're actually purple though but I could be mistaken.
>>714707409 (OP)I got stuck in the voracious questline with the lamia and fish dudes fight, got stunlocked by all the enemies attacking at once. Decided to get better gear but that involved some long autistic grind that i couldn't bother to do before the free play time ran out so i just lost interest.
Is there any time where it' better to use a skill at 3000TP instead of using it 3 times at 1000TP?
>>714761503Depends on the weapon skill but usually not.
Mystic Boon's MP return scales faster on the backend so if you've got a melee WHM its better to wait for 3000 TP and get a 70% recharge than to pop out a 10% recharge 3 times.
But for DPS purposes Its almost always better to just throw out your WS as soon as you hit 1000tp.
>>714707409 (OP)ofc not!
I stopped playing becuase it is FUCKING DOGSHIT and it always was
You faggots made me try it and not even the story is good you lying fucking cunts
oh cool an XI thread, I should get back to work on my Twashtar.
I got this for christmas from a XI/XIV guildie, really cool
I dual box in Retail, currently working on 2 characters at the same time in, one character is DD/TANK/MAGE and the other is BRD/COR/GEO/WHM :).
Probably going to take me 1 year to gear both.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Category:Bonanza_Weapons
What did you guys pick?
I went with the Onion Sword for my Dancer
>>714763069i mainly play brd so i went with a miracle cheer. looking back on it now, i kinda wanted the diamond aspis for my bst.
>>714747649>difficultYou keep using a word that you don't understand the definition of. Why is that?
>>714761650Feels like a missed opportunity same goes with skill chaining. A lot of the nuisance of the combat system is lost when just spamming weapon skills as soon as you get enough TP to use them beats everything else in terms of DPS. I feel like there should be more incentive to strategize, have players work together to make skillchains and weigh the benefits on which skillchains they want to make and then actually have to coordinate with eachother to make them. Self skillchains were a mistake, maybe if solo skillchains were limited to LV1 and you needed someone else to reach LV2, I dunno, they had something potentially great there, something that forced people to engage with eachother but it got lost along the way.
>>714766540Retail revolves around skillchains again. It's basically gone back around to release with skillchains and magic bursting is optimal, especially when you can skillchain off skillchains.
>>714766761Oh, that's good to hear, how did they manage to end up fixing it? TP burn beat skillchaining for so long in the meta.
I feel the same way about TP too, also but forgot to elaborate, I feel like 1000, 2000, and 3000 TP should be a strategic choice. Like each one has a niche and is used. Do I throw out damage now or save up for a bigger and more damaging hit with a potent added effect., there shouldn't be a right answer, it should depend on the encounter and what is going down that instant which one you should choose.
>>714763069I havent yet picked one for my main character. Leaning on the wizard rod since I'm working on SCH and I dont have a bunzi rod, let alone the RP grind to 30 it. For my BRD dualbox I took Miracle Cheer even though she has relic, mythic, empyrean and aeonic. Good to have MC as an alternative tool when wanting to give stuff like ballads to mages without needing to fuss with song order, or for if Nitro songs get dispelled. Then on my NIN alt I took Yagyu Darkblade and its fun as hell to give AoE shadows and have an enmity spike tool.
>>714766540Skillchains and magic burst are such a good idea all things considered, some form of them should be in literally all MMOs, it just sucks that an addon basically needed to make them viable in XI because of all the visual effect spam, especially with magic types in the group, and also the massive amounts of text spam in the chatbox. I would love for a game that mimics the core system of skillchains and magic bursts but is implemented in a way that doesn't force you to have a retarded flowchart on your second monitor, an addon, or flashing buttons that trivializes communication. There has to be a good middle ground solution.
>>714766980Actually, due to how fast you gain TP in a full party setting (at 119) you actually do get some choice of when you fire off your WS. Also, most jobs have access to TP bonus gear so a WS "at 1000 TP" is usually getting the 2000 bonus, etc. Aftermath weapons also mean that you need to weave in 3000 TP WS as well...there is a bit more nuance to it than you think.
Leveling up and doing solo skillchains though? Fire that shit off at 1000, don't even think about it.
>>714716305>streaming didn't exist back thenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streaming_media#Late_1990s_to_early_2000s
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>>714742187for XI machinima on NATIONAL TELEVISION
It's been a good (2) thread(s).
See you fuckers around in Vana'diel.