If you interact with any ACTUAL gamer you'd know they don't play shit, they spend more time watching v-tubers than actually trying videogames.

Actual statistics like game achievmeents show majority of gamers just play the intro, get the first achievments and then don't even finish the game.

How the fuck can it be "majority of gamers spend time with old games"? Majority of gamers DON'T EVEN KNOW OLD GAMES and the huge obsession and worship there is with remakes proves it.
See how zoomers shit NON STOP on original Silent Hill 2 but praise the garbage remake.

You can go to the FNAF subr*ddit and ask how many people there actually played the FNAF game, you'll find out 99% of the "gamers" there dind't play a single one.

So fuck off with this fake shit of "Oh new games bad, gamers prefer old games!", GAMERS DON'T PREFER SHIT. All they do is masturbate and obsess over e-celeb drama.

meds

i havent read the article, but surely fortnite and minecraft are considered to be older games these days for

I'm not reading all that shit by you but first of all what's the criteria for a game being "old?"
Second of all, regardless of what that criteria is, there's exponentially more old games than new games.
Hope this helped retard.

>>714758465 (OP)
>no new vidya to play
>no new tortanics to rub faeces on
>no journo to throw faeces at
is this how it all ends?

>>714758930
yes, gacha and live service are the future of gaming

>>714758465 (OP)
Meds, nigger.

>>714758465 (OP)
we talking percentages here retard. There could be only 3 people playing old games and 1 playing new ones and that's 99% of players playing old games. They say there are 900 million PC players but how many of them are just dead Steam accounts of people that never even use it? It's all about the framing. PC gaming is not that big and most games still sell less even when compared to just the PS5. Most of PC gaming's revenue come from a handful of subscription games like MMO's. All the single player games with big numbers like Baldur's Gate 3 or E33 was because of China. PC gaming is basically just China at this point.

>>714758465 (OP)
>old games
>achievement statistics
that said, yes the article is wank but it was written by a games journalist so you knew that in advance
kill yourself

For anyone who wants the gist of the article, people mostly play live service games that have been running for a while.

>67% of player hours on PC were spent on a game that was six or more years old. A further 25% of player hours were spent on games that were two to five years old, and the remaining 8% of time was spent on games that are less than two years old.
> Newzoo's data further breaks down that 67% chunk:
> 7.1% Counter-Strike: Global Offensive / Counter-Strike 2
> 6.4% League of Legends
> 6.2% Roblox
> 5.8% Dota 2
> 5.4% Fortnite

n = 73,000

>>714759667
>people mostly play live service games that have been running for a while
the internet was a mistake

>>714758465 (OP)
>older games
Like fortnite and minecraft fr they cooked on those games man my childhood right there they don't make them like that anymore.

>>714758465 (OP)
>Actual statistics like game achievmeents
old games don't have achievements, nigger

>>714759996
If it doesn't have achievements it's a demo.

>>714758465 (OP)
>my data is anecdotal based on my experience browsing social media
>their data is playtime from steam, epic, uplay, etc.
>my data is more reliable, gamers don't play shit!
have you ever considered that "gamers" are actually playing games instead of talking on reddit and instagram? have you considered that there is a very large blindspot from your biased perspective? have you considered that it just makes sense that there is a larger portion of people playing old games when the amount of older games outnumber newer games, have more time to have been discussed and shilled to reluctant buyers, that older games often have lower system requirements and are cheaper, as well as a myriad of other things that contribute to why people might play older games more despite you hearing less about people playing them?
have you also considered that
>out of 100 people, 8 play 1 new game and discuss it
>out of 100 people, 92 play 92 different old games but have no one to discuss it with because it has already been discussed ad nauseum OR there are no other people currently playing/caring about the thing they are playing

tl;dr OP is retarded.

>>714760285

Explain why steam charts show new games like wukong reach over 1 milion players at the same time while old games dont' get shit.

Try reinstalling RE: Outbreak and see if the private servers have more than 5 people playing, i dare you

>>714758465 (OP)
tell me again about RE7 and alien isolation. or about bolt gun.

>>714758465 (OP)
dota 2, cs and fortnight are older games

>>714760551
kek

>>714760513
>Explain why steam charts show new games like wukong reach over 1 milion players at the same time while old games dont' get shit.
read it again, motherfucker. i already did.
>out of 100 people, 8 play 1 new game and discuss it
>out of 100 people, 92 play 92 different old games
you can have a single game that has more concurrent players than other games, by several orders of magnitude. but compare the concurrent players from that single game to the totality of players in all other games, and the million players all playing the new game pale in comparison to the multiple millions playing many other games.

retard OP got owned

>ACTUAL gamers don't play shit
so am I just an über gamer at this point? I'm replaying MM X2 right now as I replay the SNES trilogy before giving Xenogears Perfect Works ROMhack another try.

>>714760513
>steam charts show new games like wukong reach over 1 milion players at the same time while old games dont' get shit.

Can you tell me anon, do you think Wukong inspired 1 million brand new gamers to make brand new steam accounts and play their first video game ever?

Follow up question: After Wukongs population dropped from 1 million, where do you think all those gamers went? Do you think this mysterious million players (who you seem to believe none of which have ever played another video game??) all just vanished off the face of the earth?

Try not to think too hard now, you might hurt yourself!

>>714758465 (OP)
Oh sweet, a hylic thread

Start killing games

>>714764260
When someone stops playing something it doesn't mean that they will play something else. Instead they will just go "oh there's nothing to play, I wish X released already".

>>714758465 (OP)
You need to get out of /v/ adjacent circles. All the issues you are describing come from being in proximity to this shithole.

>>714764639
So you genuinely think that "1 million people were playing wukong, no one plays old games!" Were 1 million totally brand new gamers, who all just bought their first pc/console?

And you don't think when a popular game comes out, spikes to 1 million, then drops to 0, thats the temporary concentration of all the people playing the hundreds of games that sit at 10-20k population, and then subsequent re-distribution?

>>714760513
People play new games when they come out
They finish them
The return to their eternal comfort games which happen to be older and run on toasters

>>714764639
How did you come with the assumption that everybody does that?

By old games they mean old live service games like GTA online or whatever not old single player games.

New gamer here, I created a Steam account just to play Clair Obsucre: Expedition 33.
Now that I finished it is there something else new I can play or should I delete my Steam account and turn to dust, disappear into nothingness?

>>714766034
it's over bro... i hope you had fun living that long

>>714765358
>not many people play old games
>OH SO YOU THINK THAT NOBODY PLAYS OLD GA
People inventing arguments and fighting them.

>>714758465 (OP)
>If you interact with any ACTUAL gamer you'd know they don't play shit
?
Then thats not a gamer, you retard.
>>714758465 (OP)
>Actual statistics like game achievmeents show majority of gamers just play the intro, get the first achievments and then don't even finish the game.
Thats true of every game on every platform, outside of some hyper fringe exceptions, retard.
>>714758465 (OP)
>How the fuck can it be "majority of gamers spend time with old games"?
by the fact the majority of people are playing old games instead of new ones?
>>714758465 (OP)
>Majority of gamers DON'T EVEN KNOW OLD GAMES
says you, who would be wrong since the stats say otherwise. Anon, you may be genuinely retared.
>>714758465 (OP)
>the huge obsession and worship there is with remakes proves it.
>See how zoomers shit NON STOP on original Silent Hill 2 but praise the garbage remake.
That proves you spend too much time online getting your "facts" from social media, and not real life or stats. Retard.


This is some powerful brainrot. Not sure why you cant accept the possibility your ill formed notions are wrong in the face of overwhelming evidence.

>>714760513
>Explain why steam charts show new games like wukong reach over 1 milion players at the same time while old games dont' get shit.
>instantly pulls out some failed multiplayer slop as a point
okay retard, for every 1 wukong, there is thousands of sloppy failed RE Outbreaks of old.
People are still playing ooooold civ games, several versions behind the newest ones.

How are you THIS retarded?

>92%

>>714759093
you can't be this retarded

>>714766841
>People inventing arguments and fighting them.
(You) just said this, anontard: "When someone stops playing something it doesn't mean that they will play something else. Instead they will just go 'oh there's nothing to play'"
in response to this guy >>714764260
You clearly are arguing that those 1 million wukong players couldnt possibly be playing old games when they stop playing wukong, which is a retarded premise
but then, you also dont understand 1 x 1,000,000 < 100,000 x 1001

>>714759093
>PC gaming is not that big and most games still sell less even when compared to just the PS5
holy fucking cope hahahaha
snoys are really mad that the PC keeps winning. PC is growning at a massive rate and sony console markets are falling year on year

>>714758465 (OP)
If you just read instead of typing schizo babble based off of clickbait, you'd realise "older games" simply refers to games that came out before 2024

>>714758465 (OP)
What the fuck am I reading

>>714767515
>If you just read instead of typing schizo babble based off of clickbait
Schizo babble is /v/ kino you newfag

>>714767363
I am not arguing to people don't play old games. I am arguing that not 92% of the players go and play old games.

>>714768708
then what do they play, anon?
What evidence do you have to say otherwise?

>>714768848
My evidence is lack of your evidence. There are no statistics found on older games skyrocketing in numbers after a "monthly fomo slop" dies.

>>714758465 (OP)
Anon, don't hog the good weed you're on. Share with the class.

>>714758465 (OP)
Older games now include league of legends, fornite, counter strike, minecraft, gta5, and roblox

>>714758465 (OP)
>time with old games"? Majority of gamers DON'T EVEN KNOW OLD GAME
Iirc old games was defined as games released more than I think 3 years ago or 5 or something. Just to give you an example, Cyberpunk 2077 is an old game by that standard. And this does make a lot of sense because a lot of people play counter strike, dota, tf2 etc. all "old games", on top of them you have people like me who pick up SP titles when they're on sale sometimes years later and you get that resutl

>>714758465 (OP)
they all play old multiplayer games forever
and then you wonder why the gaming in bad state and everything becomes live service instead of real games
yes, you faggot playing dota, tf2 and fartnite for 2000hr and buying stupid hats is the reason the game is bad

>>714758465 (OP)
What is classified as an “old game”?

>>714770234
Apparently 6+ years old

>>714770234
older than a month.
if your game doesn't hit 6 gorilion players it's over... you need to start considering layoffs