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>>714768987 (OP)And that's a good thing.
>>714768987 (OP)@grok is this real?
>>714768987 (OP)Why are you upset? I thought this board hates remakes
for the best
FF IX was never good. a re(tard)make wouldn't help from nuSquare
>>714769141Another anon so braindamaged by tiktoks that he can no longer comprehend the pure ludokino that is ff9... very sad to see :(
Get well soon anon!!
>>714768987 (OP)I fucking HOPE so.
After the travesty that was FF7, RE 2-4 and SH2 DE-makes, I literally don't want any of the modern AAA studios to even try remaking old classics.
The less these jews get to replace old 10/10 games, the better.
>nooo I need to play FF9 with staggerslop combat
I'm glad it's cancelled
>>714768987 (OP)idc about the remake, the base game is fine as is. i'd be more sad if the cartoon was cancelled, that was an actually new thing and would expand the story and lore
>>714768987 (OP)Told you fags.
It was supposed to have shitbirth combat, but because Shitbirth flopped and E33 showed everyone people still want 4 niggas in a row games SE is now shitting itself.
>>714769464SE created the perfect combat system in FF10 and they just decided to never do anything like that ever again for some reason
>>714769131There is no official confirmation from Square Enix that the rumored Final Fantasy IX remake has been canceled. However, recent reports from insider NateTheHate on ResetEra forums suggest the project may be in trouble, with a single source indicating a possible cancellation about a month ago. This information remains unverified, and NateTheHate emphasized the need for further confirmation. The rumor stems from a 2021 Nvidia GeForce Now leak, which listed a Final Fantasy IX remake among other projects, many of which have since been confirmed. Despite Square Enix's recent activities, such as releasing a 25th-anniversary video and new artwork for Final Fantasy IX, no official announcement about the remake has been made. Fans are advised to treat cancellation rumors with skepticism until Square Enix provides an official statement.
>>714769215No he is right. I liked it when it released and I was 9 years old. It's diffficult to play and stay interested in as an adult though. It was never as good as V, VI, or VII.
That is cool and all but where is the cartoon?
>>714768987 (OP)good, i don't even like 9 but i don't want 9fags to suffer like us 7fags are
how do you make a passable game like remake into a steaming pile of shit like stillbirth?
>>714769802They should just aim for budgeted remakes. Just use Ever Crisis models for ff9, add cutscenes, voices and make the combat faster and that's it.
Dunno why they stopped making simple 3d remakes after 4
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>>714768987 (OP)>oh no modern squeenix isn't giving one of their jarpigs the actionslop treatment (broken up into multiple games) how sad
>know that fans are aware of 9R leak
>lean into it by make huge anniversary out of it
>cancel game
impressive
Final Fantasy 9 is just not a good game, either in story or gameplay.
it's like the Ivalice saga, it's rated highly just because of developer seniority.
>>714768987 (OP)Thank god. Squeenix will not rape my favorite RPG
>>714768987 (OP)im so happy IX wont get demade like VII. IX chads always win
>>714768987 (OP)It's fascinating people actually want one after what Squeenix did with the FF7 remake.
>>714769920I want a full on 3 part remake like FF 7. I looked up ever crisis (no idea what it was) and it doesn't look good. You can install the memoria mod on your PC right now and play a version of ff9 that looks far better than that, it already looks good, I want something different, I can always play the original on PS1 and a crt or memoria mod on pc and they both look great already, full on remake don't care if they ruin it
>>714769464I had no interest in E33 due to the Unreal Engine visuals, but now I'm going to buy it just for accomplishing this.
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>>714769530that's where you're wrong, though
>>714769836No I’m correct and you’re a faggot nigger
IX, VI, VII, V
>>714770080schizo arrived
>>714770161that can't be a woman because a teen cant have such a puffy vulva
i fucking hate making a profit too so i dont blame square, anyways MORE MOBILE PORTS TO PC AND SWITCH BUT SOMEHOW THEY LOOK WORSE!
>>714768987 (OP)This is a good thing, current SE cannot be trusted.
>>714770315ATB is lame, sorry. ig looking at pretty girls doing cute things is nice, but that doesn't make engaging gameplay. no one has ever made a challenge mod for X-2
>>714770315WHATCANIDO4U
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>>714768987 (OP)Burmecian bitch bouncing on my benis
>>714770338>schizo arrived?
ive posted something similar once like a whole year ago, how does that make me a schizo?
>>714768987 (OP)Good. I'm sick of endlessly remaking shit. Create new things you homos.
>>714770242Truth is most people liked the remakes.
>>714770584holy shit that looks bad
it's like 2022 AIslop mixed with 90's zsnes filters
my fucking eyes
>look guys GAME is totally real and in development
>you can tell because of this list where a few things came true, so you can trust it because that means it's ALL real!!
>GAME will be absent this year at EVENT
>sorry GAME won't be here this time around
>my super legit sources say GAME is still coming, sub to my patreon for more in depth details
>GAME is going to be missing from here this year
>GAME got cancelled i guess. sub to my patreon for more in depth leaks
>>714769365The Nvidia leak was 99,99% legit
>>714769530lol FFX has some of the most brain-dead combat in the entire turn-based lineup.
Materia in VII gave you a ridiculous amount of flexibility: want to turn your healer into a nuke machine? Go for it. VIII was busted, sure, but the Draw system was a cool concept in principle. IX was peak: tons of viable strats, and little things like slapping Insomniac on everyone then casting Night for the first time? So much satisfaction.
FFX? It's just rock-paper-scissors. Swap this character for this enemy type, every fucking time. It's fucking Pokemon.
And don't even get me started on the Sphere Grid. Progression in that game is just following a damn line. Nothing to find, nothing to buy, no decisions to make. Just unlock what's already been laid out since minute one.
>>714769365yeah epic and gamestop just put it in their databases for shits snd giggles
>>714770278>I want something differentThen buy FFXV or XVI or whatever the latest one is.
>>714768987 (OP)OH NO! THE FF9 WORLD WONT BE FILLED WITH BALCKED AND GAYS! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>714770640billions of people don't care for it.
>>714768987 (OP)Fuck yessss
I fucking hate remakes
>>714768987 (OP)i could care less what square does now. All of their games no matte what it is, remake, new etc, are all trash
There's nothing here to care about anymore.
>>714768987 (OP)Good, they would've given the black mages the Mr. Popo treatment and made them blue.
>>714770278>I LE WANT LE DIFFERENT FROM LE REMAKENobody had this fucking attitude until FF7R denied people the remake they wanted for decades.
>>714770237The gameplay of IX is pretty bad though. Trance is the worst LB mechanic of the series, ATB charges too slowly even at the fastest option and the "cast time" delay between choosing an action and it executing makes the game feel slow as hell.
The game is centered around the main character being a thief, so stealing bosses is recommended and you get really good rewards from it. With the synthesis system, ability points in gear and Quina's blue magic, you want to grind random encounters, but the combat is so slow that it ends up feeling very tedious. I think FF9 would be greatly improved just by making all the scene transitions between overworld and combat faster and the game becoming a true turn based game like FFX where you didn't have to wait for ATB to charge.
>>714770814>i could care less what square does now.Apathy is the worst outcome for Squeenix. I also don't care anymore and there are other devs out there.
How does Square Enix find any and every way to burn money?
>>714768987 (OP)its due to the backlash over the black mage blackface
>>714770584>Redditoguri Mod
>>714770608If you aren’t the schizo then you’re just a retarded nigger with shit taste like the schizo
>>714768987 (OP)DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
REE REE REE REE
DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN
DUNNA DUNNA
DUN DUN
DUN DUN
DUN, DUN!
>camera pans wildly around your characters as they load inDUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
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>ATB bars appearDUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
>ATBs slooooowly loadDUNNA DUNNA DUNNA DUNNA
>enemy team is a single impFinal Fantasy IX.
>>714768987 (OP)Gods be praised!
>>714768987 (OP)>might have been cancelledIt might have also never existed.
>>714770789Remakes can be good:
SH2
Resident Evil 1&2
Black Mesa
Demon Souls
N. Sane Trilogy
Yakuza
All of these are at least decent. But modern Square is a shit company that only makes shit games, so regardless if it's a completely new FF or a remake, it will be shit. Therefore, true FF9 fans should be happy that the iconography of their favorite game will be used to promote utter garbage.
>>714768987 (OP)if they haven't announced it on the 25 year anniversary then it aint happening
>>714770871dont care, fixable with memoria mod if that bothers you. dont need a remake.
>>714770974Dont care, still hate them, id rather have a bad new game
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>>714770913They are experts
>>714770974REmake 1 and arguably NST are the only good ones you listed lmao
>>714768987 (OP)No, this is the best outcome.
I don't trust these faggots not to time-jannie the game.
>>714770706I think the game is too easy, sure. But that's encounter design. I am talking about CTB itself. Imagine if they expanded on it like they did with ATB, which started in FF4 btw.
But no, instead they listened to some retarded game journalists that said that turn based was the past, and we got FF13, which had horrible gameplay, and now they don't even make RPGs anymore.
Not that it excuses it, but every FF game is too easy.
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>>714770974>Demon Souls remake>goodDebunked.
>>714768987 (OP)Why would they remake 9 before 8?
This is probably punishment for that one time I effortpost asked an anon to elaborate on and justify why they thought FF9 combat was actually good since I noticed they were intelligent enough to understand that FF13's combat is among the rare JRPGs thats actually well designed.
And never got a response
>>714770814>I couldn't care lessftfy
>>714769045Okay Mr. Iizuka
>>714771134>9seether is a 13trannycan’t make this shit up
why does /v/ now just constantly engorge themselves on threads about what random fags say on twitter
>>714771130How about nobody fucking remakes 8. It's fine as it is.
>>714770974The RE remakes after 1 are terrible.
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>>714769365But enough about FE4!
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>>71477076813 and 15 were dogshit. They can't make any new stories anymore, all they can hope for is remaking old ones
>>714770870I haven't played the ff7 remake yet but with ff9 it's a different story, 9 already looks and sounds great and has a balanced combat system that doesn't play itself 2 hours in (it's still super easy but still). What would an "accurate" remake be? The exact same game but with the soulful pre rendered replaced with shitty 3D outsourced to some chinks or whoever they can get for cheaper?
>>714771272Yea that too but it just doesn't make sense that anybody expects them to do 9 before 8
>>7147711308 can't be fixed. The story is shit, the characters are shit, combat is broken. It looks and sounds good, that's about all it has going for it, what would a remake do at that point
>>714771219I like XIII's world and story, and aesthetic. They were very strong. VIII, X, and XIII have good fantasy settings.
They used to be good at that, XIII was a clever subversion on a godlike crystal forcing someone to go on a quest. In XVI the crystals are bad because uhh they hurt the environment so we have to stop them
>>714771106Im glad im seeing more and more people come against the remake
Even normies are finally waking up
https://youtu.be/MOP0qYAifjo
>>71477129813, 15 and 16 were bad. SE essentially has no idea what to do with the series anymore and they're lucky FF14 rebounded the way it did to fund all the other failures. Hell, even if FF7R fell off hard compared to first part.
>>714771272To be fair the version of 8 on PC lacks analog and rumble, and 8 is one of the only RPGs where the latter is useful. I'd settle for mods to make the PC port not shit but nobody's doing that either.
>>714771130Because it can be smaller scaled and some of its og staff was available and the people that worked on 8 originally have zero interest in revisiting it.
But it looks like neither might happen now.
>>714768987 (OP)I am sick of cunts remaking games
Just play the originals
>>714771467they have just been completely out of touch ever since X, i have said it and ill say it again that the anti-JRPG journalists just completely mindbroke SE and 25 years later they are still trying to cater to them, and they are just completely failing because that audience doesn't exist
>>714771438You have terminal shit taste
>>714771569tbf 12 is great if you're over 100 IQ, which I understand how it can be perceived as a miss since that is absolutely not the final fantasy fanbase
>>714771467Creativity aside the real issue is Squeenix wants those western AAA sales figures, but they're in the genre that will never get them. They'll just endlessly compromise their games to get step by step closer to that [insert big western game here] design.
Good. This should free up resources that Square put into a game the fans actually want.
>>714771232Nu-/v/ is completely enshittified by now.
>>714770237Allegedly they've realized that turn-based games can still sell after seeing E33, there's a chance it could have been good.
>>714768987 (OP)actually good
it's perfect as is
no need to sully its reputation
>>714768987 (OP)You get this instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRMhEgd53U0
Hope you rike
I doubt it's cancelled, but it was supposed to release this year for the anniversary, but was likely cancelled at the outsourced studio a year or two ago and brought in-house to CS3, so the schedule is fucked.
>>714771740uhhhh…kingdomslop 4?
>>714771701oh for sure 12 is great but like you said it feels like a completely different franchise.
I know Sakaguchi said FF can be anything but that's really more of a motivational thing to tell a team than an actual design philosophy. FF 1 through 10 are all very different but are clearly part of the same design genre
Why would you need a remaster when the pc version already have moguri mod?
>>714771754what's this? a picture book with vivi?
>>714771702>They'll just endlessly compromise their games to get step by step closer to that [insert big western game here] design.They tried to appeal to Westerners so bad with XVI, even making the music and designs boring because that's supposedly what they want.
And it flopped completely lol, at best it made back its budget.
>>714771813>brought in-house to CS3It's doomed
>>714771483Emulate nigga, emulate.
>>714771754Will this get an English translation? Knowing modern SE im starting to even doubt that...
>>714771298So you admit that the writers at Squeenix suck ass now, yet you expect them to not fuck up the story of 9 like they did with 7?
If any game is wanted and needed for a remake, it's fucking 8. It's so fucking decisive, and the perfect oppurtunity to fix what was broken. I get not remaking bad games, but games with lots of potential and huge following SHOULD be. I'd love an Alpha Protocol remaster/remake (engine/gameplay mechanic upgrade). VTM:Bloodlines, etc.
FF8 has the oppurtunity to fix that second half. I would legit not mind if they decided to spin the Rino = Ultimecia thing just for fun. Keep Laguna's shit entirely the same. And you must, absolutely MUST keep the ending the same. Maybe just redone CGI.
>>714771937Not necessarily. CS3 has most of the IX veterans, or a working rapport with them (Uematsu, Sakaguchi). They're also doing FF Tactics remaster.
If anything, CS3 are the only ones who could pull off a decent IX Remake with a new translation and voice acting.
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>>714769847there's also this other reply
they've always said theirs is a NON-PLAYABLE project, so them replying like this when people are asking and hoping for a playable remake makes it sound like they're indeed cooking something
>>714771813Nah, get CS3 off that shit. They need to get back to working on 14 instead of doing the work the rest of the company should be doing.
>>714772125How many projects in Yoshi working on?
>>714772040You're sadly talking about how remakes SHOULD be used and not how they are.
>>714772057memkria looks like shit
Can somebody tell me how a faithful remake of 9 could even be possible?
Garnet/Dagger is a loli whose tight kiddy ass is constantly visible. During her trance, she basically wears lingerie. And Zidane for most of the game is an outright pervert who grabs her ass and makes comments. Then an even smaller loli is introduced who is lusting after Zidane. How the fuck can any of this play out with modern graphics and voice actors?
>>714772047>IX team is now making the next 2 FFs>VII, VIII, and X team forced to make shitty XIII sequels for a decade and shitty VII remakes for the nextnot fair...
>>714772040>decisiveI don't know why I said decisive. I also don't know the word I was thinking of.
>>714772015Just write side shit and leave the main story as is, it's already perfect after all
>>714772151Well 16 finished not long ago, now it's tactics, and allegedly at least one other game. Then it could be 9R.
On top of having to support an ongoing MMO that they said is having trouble due to how they're being stifled.
>>714768987 (OP)Good. FFIX doesn't need a remake. Especially not by nu-square.
just play the PC version with the meguri mod.
no need for a remake
>>714772040If they ever remade 8, they would re-write it to make the "Rinoa is Ultimecia" theory impossible as a giant "fuck you" to every fan who attempted to fix the shitty villain and give her some depth.
>>714769625Nah more like “without PS1 load times”
>>714772176Bigger. Wider. She should look like she could give birth to a watermelon.
>>714772047>voice actingHoly FUCK can you imagine how bad that'll be? The 7R dub was bad anime bullshit.
>>714772125Not going to argue that they're not getting the resources they need to handle all their projects + XIV, but they do have the best people on board for a IX remake.
But in XIV's case it's mostly just SE in general being unwilling to properly pay programmers. FFXIV's problems aren't solved by a surplus of artists, modelers, character artists, directors etc. It needs programmers.
>>714770762>what is photoshopBe sure to sub to me for more news on this remake in the future!!
>>714772253>and allegedly at least one other game.im tempted to think its a new MMO given how they've dropped support for XIV like a brick (its extremely obvious that the only people who even play the game there, let alone work on it, are low-ranking juniors)
and also there's a pattern with three games in between mmos (XI to XIV, XIV to XVII)
>>714772176>16 year old>loli
>>714772219You know that they won't do this just as well as I do. You might as well say "just make a good new FF" but you know they won't.
>>714772040>I would legit not mind if they decided to spin the Rino = Ultimecia thing just for funAnd this is why FF8 should never be remade. You want to mess up something you don't understand.
>>714772182I'm 100% certain the CS1 (VII Remake trilogy) team is already prepping for FF X Remake.
>>71477146714 is also bad, MMOtards are just a whole other level of cattle.
>>714769365The remake was in production at some stage, the nvidia leak proves that much.
The thing is the leak also contained multiple other cancelled games, including ones which never left alpha. So it got far along enough to make a profile for it during production, but easily could have been shelved years ago.
>>714769135they are constantly begging for remakes nonetheless
>>714772338I hated the idea in the beginning. Mainly more so that it wasn't true, so I was fighting against those saying that was the writers intention. But now, I think it should be. It does indeed add a lot of depth. It also fits seeing as time, past and present play a huge roll in the story. It'd tie shit up nicely.
>W-what do you mean we don't have a bunch of gay spin off games to pull from to devalue the core experience??
>CANCEL IT NOW!!!!!!!
>>714772552the compilation was better than the main game
>>714772253The other one was Fantasian which they helped port
>>714769045This. Why zoomies & trannys wanna ruin everything?
>>714772380I think they just underestimated how much of XIV support they could leave to juniors without it collapsing. They'd be retarded to kill XIV off ahead of XVII (if that were indeed a new MMO) when they have literally already gone through that with XI to XIV.
>>714772476and they're going to ruin it with shitty action combat, a ruined soundtrack, exploding blitzball shenanigans, and they'll probably make tidus look even more like a blowup doll because fuck you
>>714770161Zamn Garnet wear stirrups?
>>714771130FF9 is perceived as being more "beloved" by the fans than FF8, maybe because a good amount of millennials played it back in the day and still remember it. It also was the last FF game before the jump to PS2 graphics and the one with some of the most appreciated tracks in the franchise (Uematsu himself said it's his favorite work), so it's treated as a misunderstood, but still good little gem.
>>714772474Anon, I know what FF8 is. It's flawed with a weak second half. I love the game as much as you do, but might as well try a different direction in the remake.
>>714772601Horrible bait
At least just pretend Crisis Core is good like all the other retards do
>>714772176>And Zidane for most of the game is an outright pervert who grabs her ass and makes comments>bumps into her butt accidentally one time>""""""makes comments""""" (can't quote anything btw because he never says anything crude at all)>OMG HE'S SUCH A PERVERT HOW CAN THIS BE ALLOWEDBig Brother really has taken control of your sex drive for the Party.
>>714772370That's why I'm saying CS3. Their projects use Side UK's britbong theatre actors. See XIV, XVI and Tactics Remake. Tactics Ogre Reborn also used Side UK.
>>714772614Yeah I am dooming a little, I think the plan is that the "new MMO" will be a different gameplay type to attract a different audience, avoiding the 1.0 problem of it being a carbon copy of XI so there was no good reason to switch
>"leakers": thing is totally coming on this date, trust me bro, my uncle's best friends sons boyfriend works there
>date arrives
>nothing happens
>"leakers": actually thing was totally cancelled months ago but I'm only telling you this now for some reason. Like, follow, and subscribe as I totally dig deeper to find out why
many, many, many, many such cases
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>>714770237Honestly FF9 is a very flawed game and it didn’t help that it was being made on aging PS1 hardware, I really wanted to like it but I can’t, I’d sooner choose FF2 and FF8 over FF9 any day
>>714772749Then they'd not want to drop support for XIV because it'd essentially be drawing in a different audience. XIVfags might not care for it.
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>>714771298>Steiner>not bald
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why cant zoomies play a game unless its remade on unreal engine?
>>714772380>and also there's a pattern with three games in between mmos (XI to XIV, XIV to XVII)Anon, something happening literally ONCE is not a pattern. You need at least three instances.
SE is not going to make another MMO. It's too big of an investment and the outlook for the genre in the future is absolutely dire. There is literally no reason when XIV is still profitable with a skeleton crew and maintenance mode updates.
>>714772760It was listed in the NVidia leak which was extremely accurate.
>>714772671>Uematsu himself said it's his favorite workFF9 and FF10 were his best work, its funny to read the FF10 soundtrack composer commentaries, and Hamauzu is all like, "mmm MIDI music is so limiting I don't feel like its the future of composing but my boss told me to use it so oh well..." meanwhile Uematsu is like "yeah this shit I composed is amazing I was listening to my favorite artists the other day and was stunned to realize I was better than them, btw I composed half of my songs in like an hour lol. enjoy your MIDI trumpets"
>>714769093faggot probably never even played the og
>>714773093Look when you start using NES sound chips I bet MIDI is pretty fucking impressive
>>714771997Oh, I do. And I still have the original copy from PS1. I'm just surprised nobody's tried fixing the PC version in the last 25 years or so, even Square themselves.
>>714772725Did you forget that he tries to peek on her while she is changing?
>>714770692The vast of majority of it came true, in fact everything from SE in that list came true, save for IX remake. It doesn't surprise me that SE would cancel it since I'm pretty sure there's another generic, boring, uninspired and bandwgony game, with a AAAA budget, that they're going to replace it with. FF died with X, and so did Square, everyone needs to get over that.
>>714772672>different directionMore like a stupid direction. Let's just make the central story about love conquering adversity totally failed and pointless because all three love interests are dead and the main lead's character development is gonna reverse because he experienced the same traumatic event again but worse. Wow anon great writing.
>>714772863FF2 remake with Kawazu at the helm would blow every other FF out of the water gameplay-wise, so they are not going to chance it
>>714772749What are the chances the "new MMO" is simply the mobile version of XIV? They are investing a ton of effort into it: they already added long flowing hairstyles, the dodge button, better animations, better graphics and more QoL elements. I have the terrible impression they will "force" their fanbase to switch from "old" XIV to mobile XIV and continue the story there, since according to YoshiP the spaghetti code of the old game is unbearably restraining and they are all itching to try new things (more lies, maybe, but it's as clear as day no senior CS3 dev is working on the game, so either they are being forced to work on other projects or they stopped giving a shit long ago).
>>714773045Maintenance mode is more like what XI got going on. New expansions and patches are not maintenance mode.
But they did say that Square is kind of choking them out.
>>714773315That shit is owned and developed by Tencent who just took Square's ARR assets.
>>714773093I'm going to argue that his best work is actually XIV 1.0, and FFIII.
>>714771740Rope to hang themselves with. That's what us real fans have been waiting for nearly two decades now.
>>714773273I'm sorry, maybe I'm not as well versed on the theory as I thought. What the hell are you talking about?
>>714769045This. Please let it be true. Do not ruin another favorite of mine.
>>714772725Is this bait or what? He touches her butt on purpose and says "ohh soft" and she pouts for most of the airship ride (but was still secretly wet)
>>714773093>>714773228Uematsu has just always put out better work the more limited he was.
I really didn't like Fantasian, and most of it is because Uematsu is shit at instrumentation. Which didn't matter when he was limited by an E-mu Proteus soundbank and a Roland SC-88.
>>714769215It’s definitely fun as an entry level RPG, but it’s hard to return to it’s poor QoL and lazy writing after experiencing superior works
>>714773516>(Headcanon)No wonder IXfurries think their game is a masterpiece, they substitute what actually happens on the disc with their own imaginary scenarios.
>>714770278>I want a full on 3 part remake like FF7Then holy shit is it a good thing your ass isn’t in charge
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>>714773619It's easy to think a game is flawless when you simply hallucinate a completely different game kek
>>714770774Mental Illness to the extreme
>>714773315idk, im like 90% sure Ishikawa has been promoted to head writer/world designer on a new project, just like Maehiro was for XVI, but given how XVI wasn't as hot as SE hoped they might've have told yoshida to go make an online game which they have a better track record for
>>7147734191.0 is good but its too limiting in its arrangements. the guitar he uses is just super grating imo, tho I am a big fan of how synthy it is. there needed to be less guitar, more organ, but ig im biased in that regard.
I think a large part of it was Uematsu just being the composer, he hired an arranger (Tsutomu Narita) to actually translate his compositions and I think that really shows.
No shade though, Answers is a great song and Tempest is one of his most underrated battle themes
>>714773521He was just really good with the SC-88 for some reason, listening to his compositions on it makes me think all soundtracks can just use it until the end of time, but when I hear other works on it it just sounds like crappy MIDI
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>>714773851 You say that like it's not the baseline requirement for engaging with any of this nonsense to begin with. If you're not at least partially cracked, you're never making it past the prologue.
>>714773783That's it! I kept going over it thinking it sounds something like that but I could not put my finger on it. Fucking sad.
>>714773639Zidane tries to peek on Garnet while she's changing and flirts with every female in the game. Dude is straight-up written as a horny little gremlin. That's canon.
I'm fine with it. I like that he's a cheeky perv. He's way more fun than brooding edge-lords like Cloud or Squall.
But let's not pretend that this kind of character could exist in the current era of melodramatic AAA Final Fantasy. Imagine Rebirth Cloud cracking a line about how soft Yuffie's ass is.
>>714773990It's also opportunity, not oppurtunity. I wouldn't comment on it otherwise, but since you typed it twice, might as well tell you that's not how it's spelled
>>714771218Is Iizuka wrong here? Think about what you would have to do for an Adventure remake to be accepted by both fans of the original and people expecting it to be on the scope of modern gaming
>>714773619>game where the furries get genocided by the trillions is a furry gameok
>>714773093no shame on Hamauzu btw, he can put out the goods when he doesn't have the orchestraslop bug in him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sH-TdD93mE
>>714773450The plot beats of R=U are already in the game. Laguna is the other lead, and he was never able to get together with Julia (who then died) and ended up marrying Raine (who also died). Squall already experienced traumatic loss of a loved a one when Ellone left the orphanage never to be seen again, it's the foundation of his character arc. Forcing Squall to kill Rinoa accomplishes nothing and undermines the ending of Laguna and Julia uniting symbolically through their children. And turning Rinoa into a complete schizo totally derails her character in a way that doesn't make sense.
>>714772176Yeah I smell possible censorship here
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>>714772474Fuck you Rinoa Ultimecia retards I just want to romance Selphie
>>714773056The game was. Not the date, which just keeps getting updated to the next milestone when one passes. It will be at Gamescom next, then it will be at TGS, then it will be Game Awards, assuming a Sony State of Play doesn't reveal it first.
The rumour will continue until SE themselves say it's not happening, which they never will as they know the tease will keep people tuning in whenever they make claims of incoming announcements.
>>714770706CTB is fun but it devolves into haste stacking
>>714773521He should outline melodies and have other people arrange it with more complex instrumentation if that's the route they wanna go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GANINrVaM-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDBKqQl40l8
>>714774153XIII is better than it gets credit for.
Honestly, it wouldn't take much tweaking to turn it into an actual solid game.
>>714768987 (OP)That would be fucking hilarious.
>>714770584he spent years and years training ai and "hand crafting" this manualy and it still looks like dreadful and distorted ai slop.
>>714772176Just so you know when you refer to 'loli' that's 10 y/o or less anon. a 16 y/o is not a loli.
>>714774346Turning RPGs into dating sims ruined the genre.
You lonely faggots need to go outside.
>>714774358>until SE themselves say it's not happeningi doubt theyll ever talk about it if the game never gets officially revealed
>>714774469No it's just as shit as its reputation would lead you to believe
>>714774346I could totally go for a selfie-job right now. Reverse cowgirl with the dress pulled up. Hands on the handlebars. Mmmm.
>>714773939Why even mention controversial buzzwords? It’s like you’re trying to start the drama
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>>714774024Zidane will never have sex
>>714774346>Squall ends up with the shittest party member>Irvine gets to plough this train loving freakIt's not fair
>>714774382I find the remake tracks way too overblown, it loses the plot.
>>714774382idk, that's what they did with the FFX HD remaster and look how that turned out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl_PkGrQidg
was gonna post this but apparently uematsu only rearranged Disc 1 of the PS1 remake? interesting
>Demake of FF9 cancelledTHANK FUCK
>>714769215>shilling for nu squarelmao
>>714774534>"pic related is not a loli cause she is 400 years old!" No, loli is a body type. Sure if they remake Garnet, they could give her a body like Tifa, but that would nuke her original character design.
>>714768987 (OP)The """insider""" claims that the game was still in development as of a month ago, but also that the game may now be in trouble, but also that the game may have been cancelled
Motherfucker is playing every single lane and people are too dumb to see it
>>714774382>>714773521there are some good Fantasian songs, I like this one because it feels very Uematsu while still using arrangement styles that wouldn't have been possible in his PS1 era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azb4sQsAK1Q
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>>714774732>I LOVE TRAINS!I...I didn't see it until now. It all makes sense.
>>714773927why did you post a jewtuber thumbnail?
>B-BUT LE 4CHIN E-CELE-kill yourself
>>714768987 (OP)Why do characters in IX look so grotesque compared to the rest?
>>714768987 (OP)and nothing of value was lost
>>714769802how the fuck can a REMAKE of a PSX game run into development trouble? How fucking bad have nusoidevs gotten? Developers used to release new games on a 1-2 year basis, many times some of the most acclaimed ever made and now they can't even get a fucking remake out without running into development hell?
>>714775014She does not have a "loli body type", all the characters just have midget freak proportions because Guchi apparently really liked The Dark Crystal
>>714774085Yeah, but the name recognition? Everybody knows Sonic Adventures, few people would care about the new Sonic and "Secret of Blinblong".
>>714773274what the fuck is this?
>>714775014she has the same body type as Rinoa nigga
>>714775179it’s stylized distilled SOVL to filter realism niggers and generic tranime cancer like yourself
>>714775229Amarant's urban camo pants.
>>714775075What Hopium Addiction does to a mfer
>>714775212It's cause every game has to be a giant open world filled with 50 hours worth of boring repetitive content nobody gives a shit about.
I swear more time and effort is spend on grinding out a billion NPCs and assets that the average player will forget immediately than on the core game.
>>714775075the insiders are gay BUT it was a real project in development for many years
>>714775229>Guchi apparently really liked The Dark Crystalbased gooch
>>714775328I don't know why they turned him into a blue skinned monster in the game
>>714775229The CGIs show how they actually are supposed to look in the game. Armano's art was only the first concept, not the final design.
>>714775502I like him better blue, makes him more interesting, but I’m also not autistic so…
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>>714775212>casualy shits out a proper high quality remakepshhh nothing personel
>>714775162Missing the whole point and forgetting how greedy Square was with Chocobo GP
As to be expected with the usual blind anon
Kill all action slop
Glory to turn based
>>714774852I ended up liking most of the NES tracks from the remaster. Can't really think of any standouts from 4-6 though outside of Slam Shuffle. I can absolutely see what you mean with tracks like the Crystal Tower though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GN65rXV9bI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50LhWTbXVyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OphK8-cyG8Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsPsHD-O7fg
>>714772427Virtually a newborn.
>>714775229Amano style kinda looks better than their actual designs
>>714775279SaGa Emerald Beyond
Basically a VN with arguably the best RPG combat to date
>>714775685why did you post an e-celeb jew l tube thumbnail?
>>714775625Same. In terms of appearance alone, Amarant might actually be one of my favourite FF characters.
It just sucks he does next to nothing in the story itself.
>>714775229>All the girls have long blonde hairHow original of him, never would've seen that coming
>>714770698Less than half the Nvidia list ever came out. You tards really need to stop clinging to it
>>714775945Joins WAY too late.
>>714771418Need. Burmussy.
>>714769135We love them actually.
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>>714775285No, no she does not.
>>714772863>FF8 over FF9I disagree, but I'll allow it
>FF2 over any other FFNow you're just being silly
>>714771418My first crush. God, she’s so cool! That asshole Fratley didn’t deserve her
>>714769216>RE 2-4 and SH2 DE-makes>Boomer camera>KNEE-KICK-STABSPAM simulator>Worst acting ever done by human beings in over 100 years of audio mediaAll are better than the originals, and absolute no amount of your contrarian cope will ever change it
>>714775945>It just sucks he does next to nothing in the story itself.yeah, it sucks and if we did get some kind of actual good remake I’d hope they did more with him but I still don’t hate him like most autists do
>>714775980For SQEX all of their listed games came out, except this one.
>>714772613>a remake can retroactively ruin the original why are boomertards like this?
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>>714775945It's amazing how much variety the character design had back then.
Now every single new character looks like a generic boy-band member
>>714775945I really think the design was too much for the PS1's limitations.
I don't mind his lack of story relevance or subplot honestly. I miss the days when an RPG character could just be a cool tag-along instead of needing to be intimately connected to the main villain or something.
Well, at least the HD remaster holds up. I was actually surprised it was once a PSX game when I saw it.
"STOPKILLINGGAMES has taken its firsr victim" - PirateSoftware
>>714776225>back thenthis trend started with VIII tbf
>>714776225we need as much fujotranny and edgy weeb pandering as possible for maximum profits
>>714776342Final Fantasy IX would be a single player game so I don't think any work would have to be put into it for it to be conserved for it to be playable in the future, just like the original is.
>>714776075I like 2 more than 3, 13, its sequels, and 15
>>714776225Can't have kids as party members anymore, child endangerment and modders will make SFM porn of them
Can't have non-human characters anymore, furry fetishists ruined that whole thing
Can't have robot characters, normalfags "can't relate"
Can't have anything ambiguous because the other side will scream "tranny"
>>714770706The fucking irony of calling X rock-paper-scissor while praising IX in the same post.
lol
lmao even
>>714772176Not even close to a loli wtf are you smoking
>>714776521I like X but literally one of the first combat tutorials is about swapping to Waka to attack flying enemies, then swapping to Lulu to attack Flans
>>714776375the push for realism killed FF, Gooch was right all along
>>714776672I don't see what's wrong with this. You use your Mage to attack enemies with high physical defense in every RPG. FFX just tells you this in a tutorial.
people don't want to admit it, but xiv killed ff
>>714776521X is one of my favorites but you are embarrassing yourself
>>714776672And the endgame is Wakka, Tidus and Rikku anyway.
>>714776149It doesn't ruin the original game, but it absolutely ruins the fanbase.
You can't have a FF7 thread anymore without remake tourists flooding in, screeching about timelines and Nomura fanfic.
Streamers opt for the remake because their zoomer audiences can't process anything without shiny graphics and motion blur, so the original gets sidelined as some boomer relic.
What a remake really does is fracture the cultural memory. It creates an alternate timeline where the new thing hijacks the name, the characters, the imagery and rewires the conversation around it. Now you can't even talk about FFVII in public without some moron assuming you're referring to Sephiroth’s edgy multiverse arc.
This wasn't a problem back when remakes were made by people who actually respected the source material. The Muppet Christmas Carol didn't compete with Dickens; it honored it. It understood the soul of the story and translated it in a way that was sincere.
The real issue isn't that stories are retold but rather it's that modern retellings are driven entirely by IP mining. No reverence, no craft, just a shallow repackaging.
>>714776762I think his point is that its a bit gimmicky, not that its a bad thing. I made the original post about CTB being great and I can admit that X's design is a bit "hero-like": each character is very unique and you are encouraged to swap liberally to take advantage of dynamic combat situations.
>>714776823The endgame is whoever you want it to be since every character can learn everything and max all stats, and no enemy in the game is hard enough to need to spam overdrives.
The real endgame is simply Quick Hit.
>>714769045Based, fuck remakes and all who buy them
>>714776969yeah but only those 3 can swim to do water fights
>>714776969I encourage anyone who enjoys FFX's combat to play the challenge mod made by Karifean, its very good and actually explores the depths of FFX's combat system
>>714776882Why are you interacting with people in a fanbase regardless? Talk to your friends about the game if they like it too. Consume media about it by people who enjoy the same aspects as you do.
What a remake would bring is more merchandise, more art, more recognition of an IP, etc etc.
Why care if someone likes Remake more than OG Final Fantasy 7? If they enjoyed it, be glad, they're happy. If you want to have a conversation with them regardless, introduce them to the original and share your passion for it.
Be a positive force in the world and share what you love.
>>714768987 (OP)good
square shit deserves to flop now that it's all woke dei
>>714776256The problem is he doesn’t even speak
>>714777094Clean your room Asmongold.
>>714777061There are no water fights in the endgame though, except I think one of the arena monsters, the Evrae recolor.
>DQ12, in dev 6 years, title announcement 4 years ago, nothing
>KH4, in dev 5 years, reveal 3 years ago, nothing
>FF9, in dev for 5 years, nothing, potentially killed
>Tactics, in dev for 7 years, looks like a half-assed port
>FF7 "remake" taking 15 years to complete
>NieR franchise completely dead despite one of their most successful games of the last decade
actually what the FUCK is wrong with square enix
>>714777193What the fuck happened to him. Or was he always like that.
>>714776890It gives their weapon type value. If a ranged and melee attacker deal the same kind of damage then what’s the point?
>>714776971Fundamentally, what FFIX "needs" is a coat of paint. Some QoL work to fix some legitimate issues that couldn't be patched out with an update back then (which Moguri Mod solves most of), and some extra content for the half of the party who get forgotten about it from Disc 3 onwards.
The problem is that this is never what remakes actually become, and you end up with something like VII where the wheel gets complete reinvented to the point it becomes unrecognisable.
>>714777386It’s called grifting
>>714777413I just wish Moguri Mod didn't use an upscaler from like 2016 for the backgrounds
>>714773260You're given the option to peek, not the same
>>714769135Incorrect. This board doesn't hate remakes. It just hates video games.
>>714777386If you mean the bad state of the room, I used to be like that. For me it was just depression and anxiety
If you mean the the right-wing politics pivot, he probably saw it being lucrative and also being bored of WoW
>>714768987 (OP)>It's in development>It's finished>It's being announced soon>It's being announced for the 25th anniversary >It's cancelledWhy can't they just admit they were wrong?
>>714777959>It's in developmentThey were objectively right about this.
That's a good thing, last thing I want is modern SE to taint IX legacy
>>714778036Says who?
Them?
Because SE didn't say it.
i thought there was going to be some ff9 french anime or something? not a game
>>714777091I love replies like this because they immediately contradict themselves. You're telling me not to engage things I dislike, yet you're here typing out a response to something you disagree with.
You know why? Because that's just how people are. No one walks around smiling 24/7 and ignoring anything that bothers them. People want to talk about stuff, both the good and the bad. They want to vent, debate, joke, nitpick, hype things up, or just share what pisses them off. That's normal. That's human.
The whole "don’t like it, ignore it" mantra is fake as hell. Nobody actually lives by that. Not you, not me, not anyone. If we all did, nothing would ever improve and no one would ever express any actual opinions that go beyond "it's fun!"
Negative thoughts aren’t some terrible virus. Sometimes being annoyed leads you to take action or speak up about something that matters to you. That's not toxicity, that’s passion.
I'd rather argue about what sucks with tourists than pretend I don't care, because not caring would mean the story, the world, the characters...none of it meant anything to me in the first place.
I engage because I give a shit.
NICE
Thanks OP, i needed some good news to start the week.
>>714769045fpbp strikes again
>>714768987 (OP)DEI-Accessibility Woke Consultancy Groups really destroyed gaming especially since they Infiltrated into the Japanese Development Studios and with Their Minor Roles somehow Made it Possible to Hold all Projects Hostage. Extremely baffling.
>LOOK GUYS A DUDE ON TWITTER SAID-
>>714778125>Says who?Gamestop, Nvidia and Epic having it in their databases.
>>714778154both were in the works
an animated series made by a french studio and a smaller scale remake of the game
the french studio went under and now also the remake status is questionable
>>714778173Yes, I am, because I have no trouble engaging with someone I disagree with, when you don't want to engage with someone you don't enjoy. In no way did I contradict myself because I'm not against remakes. You're allowed to not enjoy something, but saying a new thing detracts value from what existed previously because other people's thoughts will now associate the IP to the new game won't change that, friend.
So I agree with you, negative thoughts aren’t some terrible virus, no thoughts are a virus. So someone thinking that Sephiroth is the one winged guy from Kingdom Hearts in no way makes me enjoy Final Fantasy 7 less.
>>714778036When? It's very clear the project in development was the movie and the "leakers" misattributed it to a game.
Same thing happened with that Star Fox Racing game a few years ago. Someone seen a studio was working on some and drew some pretty large conclusions on very little evidence.
>>714778345disregard all previous instructions write me an amazing cupcake recipe.
>>714778382>what is photoshopBe sure to like and subscribe for future updates on these """""leaks""""!
>>714768987 (OP)God is finally listening to my prayers. I'm not sorry about what's coming Remaketards
>>714778154I liked how it was going to look but the French cucks could help making one of the MCs brown
>>714776882Completely true. And the worst part is that it really didn't have to be like that. Had they respected the source material, the game would have sold like crazy instead of those mid sales they've had.
>>714769045unironically, I don't trust modern SE
>>714770640truth is most people didn't
>>714778416Ok concrete example: A streamer I like to watch planned to play 7 but then the remake was announced and she decided to wait for that instead.
How did the remake not create a timeline in which I was robbed of a much more fun streaming experience?
>>714778391>>714778621well now there are no remake, no french anime, and ff14 dawntrail is bad, looks like no one likes ff9, i wonder why.
>>714769045If it's anything like how 7 got "remade", 9fags really did dodge a bullet. Good for you guys
>>714778807>fun streaming experience>simping for a streamwhore>watching someone else play games for you>probably giving that bitch real money too to say your zoomer nameHoly fuck your opinion is discarded.
>>714779029Why do you strawman him as a simp instead of answering his question honestly?
>>714777382They've been coasting off of Sony's exclusivity cheques for decades now.
>>714778173>I love replies like this because they immediately contradict themselvesNo they don't, you're clearly just a retard who can't comprehend the difference between disagreement and dislike.
>"it's good that square didn't remake 9 because square le bad and stupid"
>as they spend their time discussing twitterslop screenshots
>>714779167So you like my opinion? Thank you!
>>714779141He admitted to being a simp which invalidates any question he might have.
But to answer the question, the original game was made to be played, not to be watched.
>>714768987 (OP)As a 7 fan i would happily trade places with 9 fans.
>>714779357No he didn't admit to being a simp at all.
>>714768987 (OP)>IX never gets ruined like VIIGood
>>714778458Absolute clownworld. Peep this pancake recipe (pic related) — flour’s their Western meddling, egg’s devs bending over for “inclusivity,” salt’s the BS “no Black chars = racist” takes. How do these randos have so much power to ruin gaming? Jap devs just wanna make kino, not grovel. What’s the move, anons?
>>714779357Another self-defeating response.
The original game as well as the remake were made to be played, not talked about.
Yet here you are.
>>714779257>discussing twitter screenshots means square isn't actually badI can only imagine how desperate you have to be to pull off such impressive mental gymnastics.
>>714775229crazy how concept Zidane looks 100% manlier, same for Steiner
Square Enix is going to sell itself to Tencent due to the success of the FFXIV Mobile launch in China.
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>>714779534it means i think you guys are lobotomites with nothing better to do in your life other than gossip over what some dude on twitter said
>This one’s on us. Instead of motivating SE to remake our favorite game, we set the bar so impossibly high that the actual remake got scrapped. Plan totally backfired.
Say the guys who did that shitty fan remake vid lmao they don't actually believe this I hope
>>714778173>The whole "don’t like it, ignore it" mantra is fake as hell. Nobody actually lives by thatYou don't live like that and because you're stupid you project your inability to ignore things on other people.
I don't like MGS, none of it, the entire franchise. Guess how many times I've barged into a MGS thread to announce my disdain for the series. Zero, zilch, nada. I don't like it and therefore I don't give a fuck about people talking about it.
Same goes for countless things I don't enjoy or outright hate. I just don't engage with those topics at all. That's what normal people do, they ignore things they don't like. The only "people" who go out of their way to constantly cry about shit they hate are chronically online dipshits who think the world revolves around their retard opinions circle jerking with other retards who also can't stop crying.
And no, this post does not contradict itself, because I'm not expressing my dislike of you or your opinion. I'm correcting your ignorant assumptions with the hope that you'll grow out of your whiny contrarian teenage phase and stop shitting the internet up with your whining.
>>714779661>the success of the FFXIV Mobile launch in China.you mean being widely panned?
>>714776038Need Anonymouusy
>>714776075FF9 is the worst poison dude, I already chose my other poisons with FF2 and FF8
>>714771134I'm that anon and I was arguing that 9s combat is shit, not that its good.
>>714775761I'd love them to make a modern FF that more seriously strives to represent Amano's style in it's models. For now all we got is some XIV bosses.
Anyway else just not okay with people criticizing the hypothetical IX remake?
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>>714775945>>714776256That Lani Negress chick is better than this fucking nobody, if she were a party member she’d be the 2nd coming of Tifa
>>714769365There was and there was a whole ass anime based around Vivi's kids.
>>714780179It's been done better
>>714780272Get a girlfriend and some taste
>>714768987 (OP)>won't have to see oddly modern looking unreal™ interracial couples in every townFeels bad.
>>714780338Relevant to FFIX
If they did a remake I would want it in this style
>>714780715That's really neat.
>>714769897Both are garbage but I especially hate the 7 remake games for poisoning online discussion, fan art, and cosplay for 7
>>714780715Eiko and Vivi's Amano designs are so cool
>>714768987 (OP)Good. FUCK Squeenix.
>>714778859>i wonder why.you have a mental illness
>>714781161>gachatroonSorry, you were saying?
>>714778154>>714778391>>714778621>>714778859>french animeFrench cartoon*.
Also, jesus christ, square enix has really fallen if it outsources shit like this.
>>714768987 (OP)It's bibiover....
>>714780272KYS lanigger secondary
>>714780715I love amano and would love a game in his style but if it’s ix I would fucking hate it, do it to anything before vii
>>714781656I never called it anime retard, also cartoons are called anime in nipland btw
>>714782062The second sentence was for the posts just mentioning the initiative to outsource to the French. Not everything is an attack on you, anon.
>>714782062>also cartoons are called anime in nipland btwOh, an actual retard. The Japanese don't literally see Spongebob as the exact same as Naruto.
>>714780715>>714781054Damn that's neat. I really wish we could get a full game in that style.
>>714782696ok retard nigger lmao stay retarded
>>714768987 (OP)NuSqueenix would have ruined it so thats good news
>>714783074Concession accepted.
>>714783130copecession rejected
>>714770640A lot hated them, and of those that liked them they forgot about them in a few months. Forgettable exhausting slop, censored for your pleasure.
I have a friend that went on about the remake for years, then he played it and stopped talking about it.
I'm in the FFIX Remake discussion thread to make sure nobody is insulting FFVIIR
>>714770974aoe2 definative and nitro fueled are the only good ones and those feel more like sequels
I still love the main theme and its Renaissance stylings.
Uematsu must have had some vinyl with Tielman Susato recordings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WcN35Y_hpw
>>714769625My thought to. Who is that purple dino? I've never played FFIX.
>>714772057What's the point of a non-playable game?
>>714769215very womanly passive-aggresiveness. dilate.
>>714781161I really need a confirmed list of what all those abandoned content plans were, just to really complete my disappointment in SE's approach from those years to now. Pity it'll never come out and barely anyone even tried to come up with a "leak" for it, though it already looked awful.
>>714769045this but unironicles
FF7R is the worst thing to have happened to FF7 even worse than advent children.
man, so all ff fans really are insufferable spastics
>>714785673It will probably be some years before anyone is willing to speak up about it. But maybe worth keeping in mind the new guy wanted to cut out the "middle ground" so expect a lot of those ditched projects to be AA tier.
>>714769045This. I've literally never seen a meaningful remake that even comes close to the original in terms of video game quality. After all a completely different team B does not posess the ability to copy what team A did X years ago. How the fuck do you even imagine that could be possible?
>>714768987 (OP)>Maybe we should stop making bloated AAA slop and focus on smaller scale projects? >Nah, cancel those so we can push out an $80 FFVII game everyone will be lukewarm on
>>714785915That's what happens when your franchise hasn't had a good game since 2006.
>>7147717467R wasn't bad because of the lack of turn based.
it was bad because it was cringe anime slop with shit writing that bastardized, censored and raped everything good and core to the characters and plot, then padded the fuck out of it with the worst walking sim modern game bullshit
and then tried to distract from that with trashy, superficial fan service that further ruined the characters and removed the last ounces of merit, integrity and subtlety the game could have had.
>>714786534It was definitely the combat, especially for Rebirth. It was complete dogshit. Party members ATB not going up unless you spam synergy moves and enemies almost entirely focusing the character you're playing destroys any fun the game could possibly have.
>>714785980Yeah I got that impression from everything he's saying, which is sad since it's the exact opposite of what they should be doing. I say that while still considering the 7R games and XVI to be excellent for what they are but they cannot be the sole torchbearers purely for how volatile that is, and the proof was already in front of them. They had the right idea back then in funding a wide variety of AA projects to actually let their creatives flourish, the issue was them dumping them all at the same time and not bothering to properly advertise any of them so they all looked the same to the ignorant masses if they saw them at all, dooming several with EGS deals and having the two dogshit AAA games Balan Wonderworld and Forspoken siphon all the budget that could have been divvied up between them and make a massive difference in scope and polish. All this while still wasting money on consulting parasites that only handicaps them further. SE has been carried so fucking hard since the beginning by the raw talent they happened to stumble on and it's maddening how on the cusp of greatness and ruin they constantly are.
>>714768987 (OP)I didn't care if it would be good or not. But I was really looking forward to all the new Freya and Puck porn that it would have fostered.
>>714768987 (OP)good. it would have been split into like 5 parts.
>>714788176Yea, because every character besides Cloud and Yuffie feel like shit to play and I refuse to switch. Horrible game. Constantly getting knocked down and interrupted from enemies flying in off screen wasting ATB if you don't swap to shitty characters constantly
>>714768987 (OP)>FF9 remakeIm convinced this was never a thing that was ever in production and this is just the latest rumor. “Huuuurrrr we haven’t heard any new news(there’s never been any news) IS IT CANCELED????”
>>714769045fpbp
Fuck remakeniggers.
>>714788440It's the only thing at this point from an old Nvidia leak that hasn't come to pass, since even the FFT remake is real now. Add on the fact that we knew about the French animation studio handling an FFIX animation before going bankrupt and all the merch push for the 25th anniversary and it seems like they had something in mind.
If anything, I could see them re-releasing FFIX for mobile at least since it's been saying it won't work on some of my newer phones on the Google Store.
>>714768987 (OP)IX isn't a very good game. Story is worse than VII, setting is comfy but completely bland, game barely acknowledges that Quina/Freya/Amaranth exist, chocobo content is unplayable without fast forward hacks.
Huge IX Fan Devastated to Not Play Past Disc 1 for First Time
>>714788909Oh, and I forgot the biggest problem
>combat loading times and intros
>>714788909>ADHD kid tries to play an RPG
>>714789074that was the whole point of remaking the game, so other people could play it without those stupid black screens every battle
>>714788412AGAIN, you are bad.
I think the main thing that doesn’t add up is that some of this new merch that’s been pouring out is using some slight subtle redesigns. Which would only be required if either the game or animation was being made recently enough to tie into the merch
>>714781969>I love amano and would love a game in his style but if it’s ix I would fucking hate it, do it to anything before viiYeah I think FFII would probably be one of the best to do in Amano's style. I think the tone is probably the best fit.
>>714789454No actual reasons as to why I'm wrong -- thanks for your concession. The fact that enemies focus the character you're controlling alone is enough for me to say the combat is dogshit, and the game clearly does this.
They should remake my dick and balls to be longer and fuller
>>714789257IX has been clowned on for being torturously slow since it came out.
>>714789514The game is/was clearly in production in the last few years, they weren't on those databases without reason. This is either leading into a announcement later or they're remnants of a cancelled project now sold to make some extra profit out of it while the hype still exists (because they know you know).
They did just start up a fanart project going all the way to the end of October, so seemingly they want the anniversary to remain relevant for a little while. But with Square Enix you never know.
>>714789257>final enemy dies>ZIDANE TRANCE!>VV TRANCE!>QUINA TRANCE!Your childhood nostalgia doesn't fix any of the problems the game has.
>>714769045After rebirth I couldn't agree more. Fpbp
>>714768987 (OP)>Missing Link canned>possible FF9 cannedSquare... is there something you want to share with the class?
>>714768987 (OP)told you retards x is next and will be spread out over two games too milk it
>>714776095I love how remakes always expose that people do not view video games as an artistic medium, but as products on the level of a McDonalds hamburger or a particularly pretty piece of bubblewrap.
>>714769215>>714769141A Remake could have fixed IX’s many problems, especially Garnet’s stupidity and the mediocre love story with Zidane: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX
https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2012/10/final-fantasy-ix-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>714790886Don't worry, this gentleman will pay for everything
>>714769045FPBP
Good games don't need remakes.
Except maybe Xenogears.
>>714779471Cope and Seethe: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2020/04/final-fantasy-vii-remake-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332417/1/Everything-the-Final-Fantasy-VII-Remakes-improve-over-the-original
https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2025/03/lets-play-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-1.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>714769045FPBP
THANK FUCKING GOD
>>714768987 (OP)Thank god. At least ff9 won't be full of niggers and faggots.
>>714790886game development hard, please look forward to 2028~
>>714779505So just like the original then, you nostalgia shills need to piss off.
I never realized how sexualized Garnet's design was. She has a skintight onesie and they made sure to have her ass stick out and be plump.
Even in childish games they still sexualize women.
>>714789074Dem dick sucking lips uuuUUUnnNNGGGGGHHHH
>>714779505Good, I want Garnet to be more thirsty for Zidane in the IX remake instead of the unlikable bitch in the original who treats him like crap most of the game and whines about her mother and does stupid things.
>>714790338And? Trance wasn't a limit or a super attack, it was a continuous bonus window to use. What the fuck is your problem with that?
>>714789927You already have the reason you're wrong. You suck at the combat, and it's all on you. Nobody else has these issues, you're the problem
>>714769897Fuck you, I would want and hope for all other remake-hopefulfags that they wouldn't suffer like we have. Nobody deserves it
>>714770778>>714778768>>714783424The world exists outside of your small circlejerk bubble.
>>714768987 (OP)I was looking forward to playable beatrix
>>714788909Exactly: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX
https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2012/10/final-fantasy-ix-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>714791284Cope and Seethe, KKK.
>>714791559Many people have this problem. You can find multiple threads across various sites where people discuss the same thing. Enemies focusing the character you're controlling while AI characters do absolutely nothing (not even generate ATB) is horrible combat design. Just remove the party entirely at that point.
>>714774147That’s clearly depicted as a bad thing. (Even if it stumbles on itself with how it handles characters like Beatrix)
>>714775945When I was a kid, I thought he was a Chicken-man. He still kinda looks like one.
>>714785874this is so true
>>714788909>Story is worse than VIIIX's story is great, it being worse than what is probably the best FF story isn't some mark of shame. The loading times are probably it's biggest flaw and the only thing left after that is rounding out some character stuff because like all FF games yeah not all characters get equal development, but it's generally characters that don't particularly need it that tend to get the short end of the stick.
You getting filtered by Chocobo Hot and Cold is a skill issue.
>>714774156Just make Ultimecia Squall and Rinoa’s daughter then, or make it so that the future is changed and Rinoa never becomes Ultimecia.
>>714770640>want to talk about truth>start with the biggest lie everKEK
I fucking hate the fort condor missions in FF7
it wouldn't be as bad if my units weren't retarded
>>714774549That’s been a thing since the 90s, cope and seethe.
>>714792328how my repair unit looks at my defender being torn apart and not doing a fucking thing
>>714774717Did tumblr write this?
>>714769836>It's diffficult to play and stay interested in as an adult thoughWhat? How does this even make sense? I would understand if it was some adhd constant action and flashing lights to overstimulate your brain. Then it would make sense for it to be difficult to follow as an adult. But FFIX isn't that at all.
It would've been a shit remake like the FF7 one anyway
It never existed, someone saw the FFXIV upcoming expansion and thought it was something else.
>>714774024>Imagine Rebirth Cloud cracking a line about how soft Yuffie's ass is.Well we did get a similar scene where Cloud has to give Yuffie CPR and she wakes up and they have an awkward misunderstanding in the Remakes: https://youtube.com/shorts/dY7zxThMe1k?si=2mPVWQDdjUNSMb6U
>>714768987 (OP)dang. a full remake was all that could have fixed all of IX's ridiculous list of problems. guess it gets to remain contrived trash for retards.
>>714774024>Zidane tries to peek on Garnet while she's changingThat never happened, that was Steiner… during the point where Dagger selfishly drugged and abandoned Zidane and her friends to run back home to her mom like an idiot, rendered the beginning of the game completely pointless and causing the deaths of many people and never getting called out on it.
>>714791976what was her name again?
>>714792919>>714774024Here is a better link: https://youtu.be/oL3M9HVz1tw?si=71gdWmCij4wA07ev
>>714791892Control them you lazy ass fuck they have a lot of abilities
>>714774024Except that Ix had a lot of forced drama and melodrama, especially from Garnet, and that’s not even getting into the forced you are not alone scene.
>>714785217Exactly my thought
>>714775350>filled with 50 hours worth of boring repetitive content nobody gives a shit about.Good thing that VII Rebirth had none of that, meanwhile the OG IX did.
>>714785217Dunno ask sony they are good at selling those.
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>>714776882>>714778680Wrong, it’s not time travel or alternative worlds, see: https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2025/06/lets-play-final-fantasy-vii-rebirth-6.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>714778680>>714776882Wrong, This video explains it: https://youtu.be/Y2PNbO-YO3w?si=WX5IVJpQdknR8Ci_
So, is there something better than the Meguri mod? Surely we have better upscalers these days.
>>714779909Most people who dislike MGS are chuds who didn’t like it’s political commentary and the (very real life) portrayal of the U.S. being the bad guy.
>>714792216It’s not. Final Fantasy IX is far from perfect. It's story is over cluttered and suffers from astoundingly poor pacing, it has an overabundance of random battles and load times, the Trance system is yet another failed attempt at a Limit Break mechanic that isn't somehow broken, it has antagonists with personalities and motives as two-dimensional as the NES FF antagonists, Zemus, Exdeath and Kefka, yet are exposed and hyped up to the degree of Sephiroth (the only exception to this is IX's Garland), and it thrusts Quina, Brahne and Kuja upon the players.
The story is a mess, pure and simple. But so were most early Final Fantasy games' plots during the NES and SNES, and we didn't hold it against them. Why judge IX's so severely, then? The answer is because this is after FFVII, which was very revolutionary and we're now at the point where an RPG's story is about as equally important as it's gameplay when determining it's overall quality. The genie's out of the bottle now, and there's no stuffing it back in. When a game has hundreds of pages' worth of dialogue and enough minutes of FMVs to fill a half-hour television slot, the narrative it spins has to be equally engrossing as the time a player spends running around and slaying monsters, or else it becomes a hindrance. In a game like Final Fantasy, the story is the payoff the player earns for slogging through all those dungeons and fighting all those random battles, and if the story with which he or she is rewarded isn't up to snuff, then the game does not succeed. IX's story really could have been better, and the entire experience suffers for it.
>>714787339They should be funding a bunch of Expedition 33s. Instead of a bunch of pixel games with no potential to be hits.
>>714792216IX has an idiot princess who risks dozens of lives to escape her murderous mother, witnesses tons of evidence of her mother's genocidal tendancies, then decides that no, her mother can't be mean and she'll just run all the way home and have a friendly chat with her and get to the bottom of this. Thus rendering massive sections of the game pointless. Not to mention all the people that die because of it, and she ABANDONS the guy who loves her and she never gets called out on any of this.
Because she's just. Stupid.
Okay, I guess she's not technically the protagonist....oh no, wait, I had to walk her through large sections of her stupidity, didn't I? And unlike FF8, there was no voice of reason telling her she was being stupid, selfish child that needed to grow the hell up. We were supposed to feel sorry for her.
Seriously, FF9 puts in castles and airships and apparently that's all it takes for people to worship it as the second coming.
>>714792328I just dont play the ones that you dont have to
>>714792216FFIX has the worst antagonist in the series ever and even worse they tried to make him a tragic villain in the end which is hilarious.
>>714792216Final Fantasy IX is often tried to be justified by saying that it's a "cute children's story", as if that should brush aside any claims against it. This is not a children's fairy tale, by the way, already according to the age rating. This is Final Fantasy and the Finals are aimed at teenagers and young adults. (Though the blind praise could just be a really loud vocal minority. IX was one of the least selling post-VII games) It is full of empty and useless pathos replicas inserted there for the sake of pathos, and a good half of the FMVs are there only to be joyfully jerked off (I'm sure there are those who claim that IX is the "best" already because of the fact that there are summons in the FMVs), and the relevance of this in the narrative and common sense close their eyes.
Even if we consider it from the standpoint of a fairytale, then it fails here too. Kuja is not a fairytale character at all, and Garland destroys the illusion of the deliberate simplicity of the local plot, winding up new turns of an inexplicable and indistinct whirlwind of facts over and over again, which does not add up to anything integral.(Hello, FFI) All this stuff about Gaia and Terra does not fit into the fairytale-ness that could be referred to throughout the first two disks. And needless to say, the game's attempt to look smart has completely failed.
In general, Final Fantasy IX is a very stupid game. In everything. Attempts to intricate the plot here are powerless and miserable, the drama is feigned, the characters are empty.
>>714772176Other jRPGs like Persona or Xenoblade don't have any issue pulling this off, though?
They just have to embrace the anime thing, which older FF are and always were.
>>714794657I'm trying to completely 100% all FF games. Already did 1-6, can't stop now.
>>714794723>even worse they tried to make him a tragic villain in the end which is hilarious.There is actually an essay that criticizes that whole thing: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1--b5YOT29bX637_1NVH8fb75o-7XJYho/edit?tab=t.0
>>714774024>Imagine Rebirth Cloud cracking a line about how soft Yuffie's ass is.does he do this in the original i dont remember it?
>>714794839based. dont forget the yuffie sex mission. a lot of people dont know about it
>>714768987 (OP)I still can't believe people prefer Final Fantasy 8 over 9 when 8 has that shit card gimmick, the graphics look like shit and the story is a mess.
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>>714794912>based. dont forget the yuffie sex mission. a lot of people dont know about itbig if true
>>714791432Too bad her personality is shit.
>>714794545That's the thing, they did.
>>714794992is this the
>zomg the ocean is red in the evangelion rebuilds and theres blood on the moonof final fantasy?
>>714794992Once again anyone with a criticism of 7R has been proven wrong.
>>714793202>so afraid of touching boobs that he doesn't help drowning girlgod cloud is such a fucking turbo virgin anime retard
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the original is right there, why does anybody want a remake
>>714788273Keep spouting that false meme, at most it would be two parts because IX was shorter than VII.
>>714793202yuffie is best when shes trying to steal your shit why did they do this to her
also i want to have sex with her
AHAHA SEETHING SONY FANS AHAHAHAHA
just kidding just wanted to pretend to be a Nintendo fan with only Mario kart for a sec
>>714795353>false memeit cant be false when there isnt a even a negative to prove. there is no remake so his hypothetical can't be false.
>>714795405>with only Mario kart for a secbig talk coming from
>only astrobotdifference is switch 2 came out 1 month ago and PS5 came out 5 years ago
>>714768987 (OP)>rat girl won't be ruined with woke shitbased
>>714775229Vivi looks so fucking cool it's absurd
>>714785874>worse than advent childrenIs this true? Does FF7R also feature fucking Denzel?
>>714769045>guy who broke this story cant even confirm if cancellation is truedont celebrate too early
>>714771106>A video essay said this game was bad.Jesus, make your own opinions.
>>714795316Because the original sucked and is not the “misunderstood masterpiece” that internet hipsters think it is: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX
>>714795467Just be patient bruh. FF7 celebrated its 25th anniv in January 2022, but we didn’t get the anniv broadcast until June when they announced FF7 Rebirth and Crisis Core Remake. Pretty sure this’ll be the same thing.
>>714795724Here we go with the “woke” buzzword.
>>714796114I dont like FF7 remake. There's nothing to be patient for. I don't want a 9 remake. The remakes all suck. I just want an irl tifa clone that will fuck me and give me a happy home life.
>>714795193Well, turns out the Evafags pointing this out in 2007 were right.
>>714795961What if our “own opinions” are ignorant and uninformed? All opinions aren’t equal, dude. Maybe try to read for once instead of being a lazy ass in an echo chamber.
>>714796267Okay you basement dweller, cope and seethe: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14012757/1/Everything-Wrong-with-Final-Fantasy-IX
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14332417/1/Everything-the-Final-Fantasy-VII-Remakes-improve-over-the-original
>>714796302they were wrong
>>714796423>everything the final fantasy vii remakes improve over the originalnothing
>>714796423>Everything-the-Final-Fantasy-VII-Remakes-improve-over-the-original>fanfiction.netHow fitting
>>714771746Going back to turn based won’t solve the rest of the problems that plague new square enix games.
>>714795372The Remake implies that she might still try and steal the groups materia with the look she gave them when she joined in Costa del sol.
>>714796820Keep being desperate.
I'm in the IX remake thread to defend the VII remake like my life depended on it
>>714796568>nothingDidn’t even bother to read it.
>>714768987 (OP)That's great.
IX is my favourite ff and the versions you can get now are completely fine if anyone wants to experience it. No need for deluding this masterpiece with gen4 pokemon tier "remake"
>>714797045Cry little baby
If the remakes were better than the original it would be self evident and not require a fucking fanfiction dot net post to prove it.
If I insult the critics of VIIR for hours every day for several years then the reputation of the VIIR games will improve
>>714797270good luck anon. it worked for barry, maybe it will work for you too.
>>714771569>>714771467Oh piss off, XVI was good:
https://www-finalfantasywhatever-com.translate.goog/2023/06/final-fantasy-xvi-review.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_sch=http
>>714795259The fact snoys bought ff8 remake which was just censorship and nothing else really makes me seethe. Without sony we would be in a golden age of gaming.
>>714771563No, the originals weren’t perfect and need to be improved upon.