Thread 714828220

>0.3 in about 4 weeks

What are your hopes/expectations?

Will it be free to play wirh 0.3?

I don't really have any, I'll just play poop1

>>714828220 (OP)
Uninstalling.

my expectation is that I will be playing a different game

I really hope we get more than 1 new class 2 ascensions this time.
>>714828306
No, that's coming at 1.0, poorfriend.

>>714828452
wasnt the original plan for 1.0 about 6mo-1y after ea release? lol
at this pace 1.0 is gonna release 2027

Another meltdown by filtered shitters.

>What are your hopes/expectations?
hope it's good
expecting it to be shit

>>714828535
Blame the PoE1 players who need their bottle heated up repeatedly.

>>714828535
0.3 was planned for the summer since 0.1, with the intention of it being the first real PoE2 league.

>>714828542
I've been to red maps though, and you retards are always the ones that take 15 hours to do the campaign
LOL

are they gonna nerf the white mobs?

>>714828678
yeah and PoE 2 is Nestle formula: nutritiousness and full of sugar

>>714828220 (OP)
none

>>714828751
>I've been to red maps though
Saying this like it means something instantly outs you as a shitter.

>>714828816
Getting to red maps is 95% of the game in PoE2.

ackshually it took me 30 hours to finish the campaign, just like jonathan intended

Okay here we go:

>2 more classes
>4+ more ascensions
>fuckton of gems
>fuckton of actually build enabling uniques
>new act + 3rd ascension mechanic (that turns into a good lategame farm)
>on the fly switching between controller/mouse
>auction house
>removal/complete rework of towers
>rework of waystone mods (difficulty = reward)
>way more and better atlas nodes

>drip-fed content
Why are they doing this
Why do they keep doing this
Why the fuck don't they just work on the shadows and do a mega big final release with a bang
I don't understend the drip-fed content release
Why
You already had a huge boost of money on the key sales, everyone played it, feedback was done, you already have the fucking money boost in advance
That's it
That's fucking it
Why do they keep doing this shit instead of working on the damn game
They are going to release this shit, then tweak it in 2 weeks
You add all the 2-week tweaks of every drip-fed content, and by full release, the total amount of time wasted will be 4 months
And they are going to fix whatever is wrong on release in 2 weeks

>>714829052
If you're a shitter. I was farming t15s on day 2 in 0.2

>>714828220 (OP)
>Hopes
That I will have Internet that can play it.
>Expectations
That I won't.

>>714829358
Take your meds.

>>714829052
I've been a path of exile player for 10 years and I think I reached T11, max, once
99% of the time I quit after reaching t2-t3
Farming maps is the most autistic thing in this game and every "endgame" player should be gassed.

>>714829052
>Getting to red maps is 95% of the game in PoE2.

Don't reply to it.

>>714829542
exquisite anon

0.3 apparently is going to be their very first "league" for PoE 2 so i'm kind of expecting a lot. At least two classes, Druid and Templar. Several ascendancies. New endgame mechanic.

>>714828220 (OP)
>Still at version 0.000003

kek, what a blunder.

>>714829542
How are you so bad after ten years that you are unable to progress to t16s in a comfy afternoon session?

>>714828220 (OP)
I’m honestly waiting until1.0 to play the game, I don’t have enough tism to keep replying it forever

I told you not to reply to it.

Shit poop garbage game for retard troons. Mark won. Jonatroon lost.

I'm waiting for the 1.0 release but every time I go into a Path of Exile 2 thread, I always see people complaining that the game is releasing too slow. As far as I can tell they are releasing new classes and subclasses every major patch which come about basically every quarter. That seems on pace (or faster) with every other live service game.

I don't really see the big deal.

I just want a fucking sword

>>714830298
I don't really play a lot of Path of Exile but what's the point of specifically using a sword? Aren't the weapons basically just stat sticks in PoE?

Don't give a single shit.
I'm playing POE1 again after taking over a year off. It's so fucking nice to be home.
Not rushing, pr worrying about div/hr, just having fun.

I am playing the best build in the game atm tho of course. Valcanic fissure of snaking

did they add WASD movement to PoE1? I can't go back, mouse movement feels like shit now.

>>714830702
Not yet

>>714830020
He might be like me, I refuse to look up guides and how mechanics work because I like trying shit out and discovering for myself. So most of the time I just hit a wall at endgame.

>>714830616
Mercenary mechanic is actually nice. Feels good to have a qt merc in my party. Plus slightly more loot because of a party.

I've never played anything but solo in poe for like 10 years ;_;

>>714830848
>refuse to look up how mechanics work
I don't understand the point of this

>>714830253
lol I’m fine with it being slow I have like 5+ games in my backlog

>>714828220 (OP)
50 more useless unique that you will sell for 1 Vaal orb

>>714828220 (OP)
I have no hopes for the game. 0.2 was hot garbage. They probably need two years to get this thing into a playable state.

I'm not coming back until they add more campaign stuff and/or completely overhaul the endgame

>>714830848
Dude, I've probably spent over a hundred hours reading/watching guides, and despite that and having over 4k hours between PoE 1&2 I still CONSTANTLY learn about new shit and figure out cool stuff.

If you've never made it to the end-game you never even got to the point where the games open up and get interesting.

lmao

I played the initial alpha release, I see the potential in the game and enjoy its differences to PoE1 and look forward to playing the 1.0 release but I will be skipping all of these intermediary patches. Thanks for alpha testing! :)

>>714830520
nothing, its just visual autism. there are some skills that require the use of specific weapons but aside from that yes they are generic stat sticks.

>>714831256
PoE just got a shit league because GGG dont see as much monetization potential from it anymore and cant be bothered putting effort in.

While PoE2 has got jackshit for ages now
when the new league drops for PoE2 it will be higher than PoE1 and earn far more through supporters packs

>>714828220 (OP)
My hope is that they finally figure out what kind of game they want to make and actually fucking commit.
>Campaign is incredibly slow with small pack sizes, limited loot, gem restrictions, slow movement, etc
>Maps suddenly have PoE1 style density and league mechanics that necessitate speed over everything and every popular build is just screen clearing
>Uniques are 99% dogshit with too many downsides and basically no stats
>1% are so retardedly gamebreakingly good that you wonder why they exist
>Passive skill tree and support gems all have downsides to go with their benefits
>But the best way to scale is +gem levels on every piece of gear that can have them
It is such a fucking mess right now, dude.

>>714831631
It's cause the endgame is clearly just an afterthought for the poe 1 crowd who bought into the beta. That's why the "endgame bosses" are literally just the end of act bosses. Every single time they talk about PoE 2, it's about the campaign. Any semblance of an endgame isn't going to materialize until 1.0.

>>714831798
They themselves admitted to throwing the endgame together in a few months before the release of the beta, and I fear that because they're now treating this as a live service that the PoE2 endgame will forever just be built upon this. It simply can't be. They need to totally rework it. It needs a do-over. It is so bad currently.

>>714828220 (OP)
>we don't wait for features now, just release what we got on due dates
It's going to be literally nothing.

>>714831870
they've reworked the poe 1 endgame probably half a dozen times. The system everyone seems to love didn't even exist until seven years after the game's release (unified atlas tree)

>>714831990
Yes, but PoE1 didn't have to be developed alongside another game. PoE2 being treated like PoE1 right now is a horrible mistake for the game. It is not finished enough to be releasing new content every 4-5 months.

Is enemy still playing PoE1 while Jonathan forcing you to do combo.

>>714832170
For most builds yes, but then you play one of the few meta builds that presses one button and blows up the entire screen.

The endgame is obviously going to be reworked because the lore of the endgame is tied to the game ending in act 3 lmao

>>714831631
>>Campaign is incredibly slow
I honestly can't see myself playing through that every league

Let me know when the game is fully out. I'm done replaying the campaign 50 times for a game that doesn't even know what it wants to be.

>>714832338
The big problem here is that everyone always says that and PoE 1 has been a success for a decade despite that

>>714832425
at least in poe1 I could flame dash through everything

>>714832563
>>714832425
And the campaign maps aren't fuck huge with 100 dead ends in POE1. And on quest view if the next area is north, in POE it'll be north, whereas pathofshit2 it'll be south, or anything but fucking north. Fuck POE2, loves wasting your time more than even POE1 just because

>>714831460
I think it's a good league tho? Yeah not a lot extra too it but it's still fun

>>714831460
anon.. people don't much like POE2.

they will come to see the new content, but it will be in an ever decreasing dead cat bounce of a playerbase.

>>714828220 (OP)
I hope they add a way to skip the campaign after my first league character. Otherwise I think I'll pass.

>>714828751
>that take 15 hours to do the campaign
it takes ben like 8 hours to do the campaign, 15 hours is pretty fast for the vast majority of people

>>714831460
nigga poe2 didnt even get half the players it had for the beta drop than it got for 0.2, they lost almost every major developer they had, including Chris Wilson, and now PoE1 can't even break Settlers numbers, meaning PoE2 didn't even just kill itself, it took PoE1 down with it.

This shit is a fucking disaster.

>>714831631
POE2 has the most narrow itemizatin in an ARPG I've ever fuckin seen.

you want SUCH a small list of stuff on gear that its baffling really, why even have 40+ prefixes and suffixes when almost every class needs about 5.

the answer is, they literally are just "bad gamba roll" prefix/suffix, they exist to make the item bad, so a godroll is good.

I hated POE2 so much that it killed my crippling POE1 addiction. Thank you GGG, thank you

The amount of hype PoE2 had only to flounder into irrelevance is honestly insane. People really thought we were getting an ARPG renaissance.

>>714833215
this, the trend is down now, forever, POE2 would have to completely reinvent itself to turn it around.

fucking Diablo 4 is funner, and that is a sad fucking sentence.

>>714832425
I dunno. The PoE2 campaign is just different. I have done the PoE2 campaign like 4 times now and doing it a 5th just sounds like torture. Meanwhile I have done the PoE1 campaign a ton of times (I have nearly 4k hours in the game) and I don't really mind doing it on league start.

>>714833342
they are seasonal games retard.

>>714828220 (OP)
>getting my ascensions feels like having my balls stamped on
>my reward is a kiss/curse node with downsides
>or worse yet doesn't even feel like a power gain until paired with a full ascension tree

my expectation is i still won't be playing it

>>714828220 (OP)
will they make it any easier? the game is too hard. story mode bosses are too much trouble

>>714833504
I could write a novel on the absolute insanity that is PoE2s general design and direction. Actually, I could write a novel on the general design and direction of just the Ascendancies, then another for the fucking passive tree. It has nothing to do with the fact that its seasonal.

>>714833217
>POE2 has the most narrow itemizatin in an ARPG I've ever fuckin seen.
Alright what's the stat overlap between two of the most meta builds right now, Lightning Spear and Essence Drain/Contagion. I'll wait.

haven't played since it launched to EA
druid fucking when?

>>714833684
>Filtered: A retards journey.

>>714833838
>Filtered
lmao my level 99 ssf smith begs to differ, nigger

>>714833342
I finally knew how the retards that preorder shit games felt. I was all in on hype.
I thought it would be different because POE is so good.

>>714833838
PoE2 is so good that it even filtered Chris Wilson from the company

>>714834023
Chris Wilson left GGG because PoE 2 was literally too easy. Did everyone just forget that Chris Wilson created a new mode for PoE that specifically dropped zero loot

>>714830020
>>714830848
I'm not bad at the game, I just enjoy the game more than the endgame, I didn't stopped at T11-something because I couldn't beat the map, I stopped because it was painfully boring
I do understand your mentality tho, of judging other people's game experience based on yours, you consider yourself "good" for reaching T(arbitrary number) and everyone else is "bad".
That's ok.
I just wished the league content wouldn't be exponential, that's my only gripe with this game.

>>714834124
oh, you're trolling, i get it now

>>714833914
you're chinese?

>>714829542
you're the majority of the people that play these games
niggas think everyone is a streamer when most stats show that the majority of people, actual normal people quit a new league after three weeks

>>714834023
the last league chris worked on was talisman, he sold the company around 3.0 and then ran down the clock until he could officially retire. after that interview with brevik the other day it's clear that he regrets everything after they left his garage.

>>714834195
Yes, gweilo. Now bow to Xi

>>714833914
>>714834195
OHNONONONONONO ANON GETTING DOXXED

Yes yes, Chris Wilson the one true savior of Path of Exile. It totally wasn't a coincidence that the very year he left the company, they added the one single mechanic that saw the most unanimous praise since the game released (Currency Exchange)

Chris should work for blizzard and make D5

>>714834432
Chris should open his own indie studio and make PoE3

Poe players were memeing about Chris Wilson's "vision" for years and now they want him back?

>>714834195
filtered shitters don't actually know anything about the end game so 'muh 99 ssf' sounds good but in reality its elon tier retardation.

>>714834195
>now with 569842 new gems for infinite combination of gameplays!

>>714828220 (OP)
Poop Of Excrement II

Progress has been too slow. I have literally lost interest. They should have focused on the new game and let the old one rot.

>>714834736
?

>>714828220 (OP)
>minions became dull in poe1
>minions are dumb in poe2
do I have to play a real build now

>>714834736
>>714834881
This is why SSF is retarded. It's literally just "use the most generically powerful skill because it's going to fit your build no matter what". It doesn't require skill or knowledge. It's actually the opposite.

>>714834196
>the majority of people
Retards, yes. The majority of people are retards. Only a retard would play a game and quit as soon as they finished the tutorial, and only a retard would play a genre that they clearly don't enjoy in the first place.

>>714835031
You could play a good game instead

Why did Last Epoch flop anyway? Wasn't everyone hyping up the last season to high heavens? I didn't even hear anything bad about it either, people just dipped. It dropped faster than Path of Exile 2 despite all the review bombing that game got.

>+6months
>no swords

>>714828220 (OP)
Detto geimu!

>PoE2 such a mess it delays PoE expansion and league
>still sword free
?

>>714829542
This but unironically.

>>714828220 (OP)
>hopes
druid and act IV
>expectations
druid, no act IV

>>714831256
grim

>>714828220 (OP)
>hopes
Make game good
>expectations
0.2 all over again

Also friendly reminder that Mr. Woodful expected the whole early access thing to take up to 6 months, lol

>>714835031
I hate minionfags with a passion.
Mainly because the very act of being a minionfag means you are expecting design benefits on top of your class.
>I want to control like, 20 skelly bros!
>But huh... I can't see the screen, can't they just pile up?
>Collision? Nono, I want them to phase each other, otherwise they clump up and can't attack effectively
>Wait wait wait, the monsters can phase through them and attack me directly? Then why do I have minions! This design sucks! The monsters should attack the minions!
>I also don't want to wait for them, so obviously they should have (my speed+1)
>or better yet, make them teleport!
Fucking commit to the clunkiness of having an army, retards

>>714835109
I did

>>714835543
actually good taste

>>714835031
play grim dawn when the new xpac comes out that they keep fucking delaying

>>714828220 (OP)
>play new class
>realize I have to play the same godawful boring 3 acts 2 times just to get to end game
>quit probably after a couple hours of boredom

>>714835204
what people say and what people do are two different things. Last Epoch is a meme arpg, it gives you everything you want right away. There is no struggle, no power curve, you just are powerful throughout. Since there is no struggle, players bail early since their final build is completed in a few days tops.

poe2 gets review bombed yet manages to hold onto players much better than poe1 leagues. This is very telling of the future poe2 has

>>714835082
>the tutorial
You and me play the exact same game.
Imagine the way you play the game from maps t1 to t16 maps, picture it in your head, the things you do and your progress and how you get there.
I play the exact same way from the beach to t1.
To you it feels like a tutorial or a "chore" because you have to wait like a bitch to start playing the same game I play.
When you reach t16, I already reached t16, it's my t1

>>714828220 (OP)
Druid coming?

>>714835204
>stupid nigger doesn't understand how seasons work

>>714835973
do slowcucks really

>>714835847
So you've beaten uber aberroth?

>>714835834
Never really understood this mentality, because you're doing the same in endgame as the campaign, except then you're just spamming endless maps without even any story or any quests to follow. So if the campaign is boring, then why is th endgame something you enjoy more anyway? Or is it that you just want to be high level as soon as possible or something?

>>714836079
You are the same slowcuck, you just do it from t1-t16
Once you understand that your life playing poe will change dramatically
You are just speedrunning 5 hours to be a slowcuck, I just do it from minute 1

>>714835847
>Last Epoch is a meme arpg, it gives you everything you want right away. There is no struggle, no power curve, you just are powerful throughout. Since there is no struggle, players bail early since their final build is completed in a few days tops.
D4 is even more extreme. 1-2 days and your build is complete (safe for mythics who you don't need and don't change anything). Blizzard likely knows that morons buy the battle pass right away.

I just want swords.

>>714836229
Once you've done the campaign a bunch of times, just hearing the same dialogue and having to go to the exact same places and do the exact same things becomes mind numbing. Also your build isn't online because you're missing so much. At end game there is more of a sense of freedom, you can do what you want to do and not have to listen to THE NAMESSSS ALVA VALAI, TREASA HUNTA EXTRODINA- OOH!"

With Chris gone, I hope PoE one becomes full zoom zoom with pets that auto loot like china.

>>714836229
It's what they know anon
It's not their fault
Like the other anon said, it's the currency creep that gives them the dopamine ilusion of the endgame being "better" because currency wise it kinda is.
But gameplay wise, it's not

>>714835847
>Last Epoch is a meme arpg, it gives you everything you want right away. There is no struggle, no power curve, you just are powerful throughout.
Try playing more than 3 hours of the game there, retard.

>>714836418
You live in a house of mirrors

Why don't they just nerf attribute stacking

>>714836476
Anon, he's been out of the picture since Affliction. You can't keep coping like this.

>>714836418
I played the campaign multiple times then I lose interest in the endgame like others have said. I guess thats a me problem though, i feel like I need a "purpose" to progress like completing the quests or whatever. The only ARPG I actually liked doing the endgame was Inquisitor Martyr lol because they made it like a bunch of mini-campaigns with a bunch of connected maps and goals within it.

>>714836597
Good for you

>>714828220 (OP)
They still don't allow you to use the name you want because it's probably "taken", yeah?

>>714836865
>I guess thats a me problem
90% of players abandon the game after reaching maps anon
The "endgame" is a farmingfest for autists that want to keep playing the game, after the game is over

>>714831426
Which makes you wonder why some weapon types are in and some are not

>>714835828
>grim yawn

>>714836610
Why would they?

>>714836057
you literally just posted how PoE 2, a game with a negative reception, has more players than Last Epoch lmao

>>714837153
I do feel like I want to play it more though, but the endgame as it is doesn't really grab me, just doing maps for no reason really and farming bits to do bosses or whatever. Another thing that usually keeps me interested is trying different builds and playing through it again but its a bit lacking n that department too, which is why I wish they had worked faster on adding the missing weapons / classes, making less useful skills better etc

>>714835204
>Wasn't everyone hyping up the last season to high heavens?
People hype op PoE competitors in the hopes of bullying the PoE developers into making whatever change the autist in question wants them to make.
It's like people praising AMD GPUs because they want Nvidia cards to be cheaper.

>>714837153
>90% of players abandon the game after reaching maps anon
It's why GGG has the campaign and doesn't let you skip it. They know all the casuals play it once, buy something in the middle and then leave for 3 months. Works for GGG.

It's why D4 feels so unrewarding. You immediately jump into that mindless endgame grind. Casuals need better simpler goals and non-repetitive maps.

>>714836524
The fact that he doesn't want to do that should tell you something about LE.

>>714837628
This. People simply don't understand that "I hope [competitor] is good so that it can make the game I really want to play better" like do people not understand the irony here?

>>714836418
>hearing the same dialogue
I'm not believing you.

>>714828535
>wasnt the original plan for 1.0 about 6mo-1y after ea release?
No.
>lol
Where do you retards come from?

>>714829542
>99% of the time I quit after reaching t2-t3
Good move, it's infinitely smarter than staying on the skinnerbox train forever.

>>714837774
>replying to bait
>calling anyone a retard
/v/tards..

>>714837774
yes absolutely it was, they planned to have 1.0 be a year after launch

this is absolutely not going to fucking happen.

>>714838540
>yes absolutely it was, they planned to have 1.0 be a year after launch
Source.

It's a tad bit odd that one of the the most common critiques of PoE 2 in this thread is that it will... never come out? It's obviously going to release lol.

Hoping they replace Trial of the Sekhemas with ANYTHING else. I do not like sanctum in PoE 1 and I especially do not like it in PoE 2 when like all your character power is gated behind it.

At least you can raw dog the Uber lab in like 10-15 mins. Getting your final ascendancy points in PoE 2 is absolutely excruciating. Babala voice lines are so cringe, the rooms are so retarded and boring. I can't believe they did Izaro dirty like that.

Druid hopefully

>>714839182
I enjoyed Trials as a Sparkmage since it was so easy for me to boost my friends but I haven't bothered playing since the nerf after season 1.

>>714839182
Act 4 has Izaro

>>714839506
wasd movement would actually make lab enjoyable, so thats great news

>>714839560
he's lying. act 4 is tota

>>714839609
Lil bro doesn't know

>>714839791
the artbook leaked all the acts. keep dreamin sis

>>714839924
>dont trust your lying eyes

>>714839038
POE is infested with the most obnoxious and hysterical doomers

>>714828220 (OP)
act 4
duelist
nerf es into OBLIVION
increase baseline health across the board, nerf all forms of regen to compensate
buff armor
add about 10 trillion more skill interactions that are actually useful

if there arent at least 3 of these things in the patch and its instead just more endgame slop with some shitty chase uniques i know i will never play far enough to get then im skipping

>>714835082
bro most people are not streamers, they cant just farm pixels for 100 hours week after week...

>>714835204
Content creators and redditors are the worst, they love to shill this game, but sadly, it's just a too mediocre and boring.
It's a fine game, but it's nothing special.

They should have put off the alpha test for this for another year. Its not even remotely close to release.

>>714841995
they need to make some money

>>714828220 (OP)
>What are your hopes/expectations?
Fix Chonk
Add more chaos skills
Give Xbows a proper bleed gem, not HVR
Add Shadow and Templar
>but in reality;
no league mechanic again
some random ranger ascendancy rework
Spears get nerfed
gearing still feels shit
maps are still garbage
Exsanguinate and Shock Nova still aren't added to the game despite their gems being there since November

>>714828220 (OP)
poop of excrement

>>714828220 (OP)
I've stopped playing in February after couple months of playing.
Game was addictive but extremely unsatisfying. Probably the first game ever i feel like wasnt worth of its money despite being addictive as hell.
Did they fix the feeling the game doesnt want you to have fun?

>>714842436
... TWO

>>714842398
Chonk is still the stupidest shorthand for anything.
Just call it Chaos Monk.

>>714842398
>in reality
one new class / weapon type and skills
one of which will be so ridiculously overpowered 90% of people play that and nothing else
it won't be addressed until 3 months later / next "league"

>>714843506
but LE HECKIN CHONKER

They're already making the endgame too convoluted with different mechanics and currencies and shit. It'll just end up like poe1 where you don't know what the fuck is going on if you miss an update or don't play for a while. Reset the whole endgame as it is, delete it, try something different its gay

>>714828220 (OP)
>What are your hopes/expectations?
I really want to play Templar. He is my favorite class after Witch and i already had lots of fun with Witch on this game.

>>714828220 (OP)
GGG should've made an MMORPG instead.

>>714828220 (OP)
i havent played since launch. whats the games state right now?
I heard it was in shambles but i don't know myself.
I got an Infernalist Witch to mapping lvl 85 or so then quit out of boredom eventually after the games first month/season.

apparently Grim Dawn has a new expansion soon. might be good.

>>714845125
It might be good and theres a lot I like about Grim Dawn but its looking dog-rough these days, really wish they had bothered to make Grim Dawn 2. Even TItan Quest 2 from the bits I've seen still looked kinda dated and unimpressive.

>>714829542
go to bed, chris wolcen

>>714828220 (OP)
Druid
PoE1 Atlas Tree
Remove Towers
Optimisations
Harvest Crafting
Blight
Story completed

also fuck the vg janny

>>714845314
Personally I just wish they'd made that city-builder game they're making set in the wake of the Grim Dawn
Now THAT would be a unique setting for a city-builder

>>714835082
the idea that the campaign is the 'tutorial' is not the only utterly cancerous idea birthed into this world from d2 but its up there with one of the worst
youre telling me your favorite game youre such a le hardcore gamer in has a 3-10 hour tutorial that you willingly replay everytime you start a new character? you're bragging about it? genuinely touch grass or at least go play a real videogame you fucking swine. arpg players should be fucking culled

>>714828220 (OP)
If it doesn't have Duelist or Crusader I don't give a shit.

>>714846124
kill yourself dilator

>>714828220 (OP)
druid
a fun endgame mechanic
maybe act4

>>714829237
>1 new weapon
>1 new class that can only use that one new weapon
>20 gems that can only be used by that one weapon
>15 new uniques for that one weapon, 13 of them are complete and utter garbage, two of them are chase uniques that give you infinite mana and/or infinite es and/or triple attributes.
>Said one new weapon is complete and utter garbage but you can do a 100 div build using the stat stacking unique to wipe screens and jonathon fixes this by nerfing maces.

>>714831256
I feel so fucking validated, doomers won. Fuck Piece of Excrement 2

>>714828220 (OP)
>hopes
sword
>expectations
no sword

i hate all of the skills in poe2 and how limited it is in what you can do. i'm playing the new poe 1 league after like 2.5 years of not playing it and it feels like a breath of fresh air after having played poe 2 for like 2 months when it came out

>>714828220 (OP)
>hopes
0 players
>expectations
1 player

>>714838931
jonathan said they expected early access to take about a year

>>714833084
"people" don't like PoE2

When you remember it has higher system requirements and technically isn't free yet well then you start to realize what's going on.

>>714849181
>believing jonathan

>>714848978
they said they are focusing on fixing skills for the next patch aka making 1 skill scale like poe1 just need to wait and see, im enjoying poe1 too

Diablo4 is unironically the best arpg right now

the next act should come with 0.3
I'm not sure im even gonna play until 1.0

I think it has been pretty good so far. hopefully they dont listen to too many of the poe1 fags complaints because they are mind numbingly bad at times. I cant believe a poe1 professional streamer said the act 1 mobs were too fast. I actually have 0 respect for the power fantasy iso-arpg gamers.

>>714850135
Most of them aren't used to any form of combat outside of pinnacle bosses, the enemies pushing you in 2 can be a bit annoying but I'd mostly complain that it's not limited to so called larger enemies.

>>714850135
well it was stupid at launch getting boxed in by a pack of 3 white mobs and stunlocked, or doing a breach and not being able to move because the enemies surrounded you in .5 seconds while you have no movement speed or travel skills and melee attacks with built in +1 second of animation time. the game is better now but it was pretty retarded at launch

>>714828220 (OP)
Act 4-6
XP punishment removed
AH

If swords aren't added for the 0.3 update I shan't be returning for it.

>>714830020
only speedtrannies do that lol, I went to t16s in a bit over a week and got bored before I killed shaper/elder/kirac/any conqueror

>descensions are now ascensions
>sanctum and ultimatum removed
>loot added
>melee viable
>duelist or shadow added
>swords or daggers added

>>714828220 (OP)
When will it actually come out? 2 - 3 years?

>start arpg season/early access update or whatever
>you are level 1
>its fun because the upgrades come fast, build decisions are made often, combat is a good mix of tactical positioning and letting your build do its thing
>you have now finished leveling, you are now in early endgame
>your gameplay has devolved to zipping across the screen at turbo speed
>your spells, ranged attacks and minions are just flying across the screen blowing up shit so fast you are already gone before the death animation finishes on the 18 demons you just one-shotted from the aoe aftereffects of some stupid ice arrow which launches guided ice missiles everywhere free of charge.
Whatever vidya genre you dislike, ARPGs are worse than that. They are worse than cheap turn based mobile shit. I'm finally free, fuck all of you.

>>714851820
They said this year but it is unlikely. So probably 2-3 years, yes.

I don't care about endgame in PoE 2, I just want them focus on releasing the remaining Acts and Classes.

>>714828220 (OP)
I got bored in the sand area in this game, which class is fun now?

>>714852829
lightning spear is the only fun build atm but it'll get nerfed next league because it doesn't align with the vision

This thread is full of dogshit extreme opinions and hilarious skill issue whining

My expectations? more POE1 players whining its not POE1, more gamerdads whining because their reflexes cant handle the game, more retards whining because they dont understand its an EA title and so on.

>>714829358
they don't know what to do with poe2 and don't want to lose the cash flow of poe1

>>714853034
Twisters are fun and perfectly viable
Whilring Slash on its own is fun and perfectly viable
Warrior has a dozen viable skills
Monk is still very very good, just underused
Ranger especially deadeye has a bunch of very good builds
Blood mage has an amazing bleed build or cast on X setup

Retard

>>714853570
>Blood mage has an amazing bleed build
>an
>amazing build
Just the one? lmao

>>714828220 (OP)
I'm not touching this shit until 1.0
Thanks for beta testing, niggers!

>>714853416
whats the fun in all the downsides in your descendancies?
do you think ultimatum is fun?

>>714853624
can you literally not fucking read

>>714853746
>anon doesnt think the game is FLAMING DOGSHIT
>he must think it doesnt have any flaws at all

You people have the critical thinking skills of a six year old.

>>714853416
>reflexes
There's a reason why we don't discuss button spammy shit games like Dungeon Fighter Online or Black Desert. Fucking sitting at your keyboard spamming buttons as hard and fast as you can to do a 93 hit combo, its the gayest shit ever. That's what ARPGs are now, and its not even endgame where it gets spazzy. Thats lvl 55 and on in Diablo 4 and Act 2 on in PoE2.

The genre will never be evolve until devs realize Diablo 2 was not that good. PoE2 devs have no chance at understanding that.

>>714853980
that has nothing to do with what I posted.

>>714853910
>literally said AN amazing build
>and then a completely separate thing
Can YOU?

I thought the issue with the game was no builds I wanted to play but then they added some builds I kind of liked but I still hated playing poe2. Next candidate on the list is the atlas. If they change that or add some other way to play the game in endgame I'll come back and give it a shot but I don't expect that in this patch.

>>714854009
Hyperbole doesnt do your non-argument any good anon.

Pretending the game forces you into using multi button combo setups is plainly FALSE, you stupid fucking apes. Its a playstyle choice, just like one button spamming.

You faggots got so insanely buck broken by slightly overtuned white mobs on 0.2 release that all of these boogeymen invaded your thinking and now youre incapable of nuanced thought. Everything is either one button spam or literally 93 HIT COMBOS BRO

>>714853570
wrong

>>714828751
Did you just admit to being a shitter?

>>714854129
If you want to get pedantic and misread for the sake of (you) farming, go ahead.
You asserted the game has one (1) fun build when thats plainly false. Blood mage bleed builds have one very, very popular setup, thats why I said it like that. That doesnt magically mean there arent other setups, or that no other bleed build is viable.

Again, you retards have the reading comprehension and critical thinking skills of a six year old.

>>714829237
>(that turns into a good lategame farm)
Its going to be ToTa. Act 4 is Karui islands. ToTa NPCs like the Hyrri's daughter lady and Karui both talked about "Karui trial".

0.2 was fun af
I don't get the hate
was it just retards getting giga filtered?

>>714854236
nu-uh, youre wrong!
see, I can waste everyones time too by posting dogshit with no argument

>>714854378
Not that anon, I just shamelessly interjected when I saw the words "an amazing bleed build" as though one singular good build is something to be fucking proud of
Get a grip, not gonna bother actually reading the rest of your post

>>714854227
You are proving my point. I'm saying that the more you level the more the ARPG gameplay (what little it has) goes out the window. It devolves the farther you get into endgame.

This genre needs to be in the hands of Jap devs who understand the concept of fun gameplay instead of Elon Musk-esque western devs with turbo autism.

>>714854427
0.2.0 they overbuffed the monster hp numbers, nerfed the general monster hp by 20% 2 days after. Also they nerfed the most broken screen clearing shit so 0.1 players who skipped the gameplay with broken builds got filtered when they actually had to start dodging shit. Also Huntress whirlwind combos are shit and they were the starting kit for the class. People figured out Bleed and Lightning builds are the go-to builds.

>>714854478
>as though one singular build is something to be proud of


>>>714853570
>Twisters are fun and perfectly viable
>Whilring Slash on its own is fun and perfectly viable
>Warrior has a dozen viable skills
>Monk is still very very good, just underused
>Ranger especially deadeye has a bunch of very good builds
>Blood mage has an amazing bleed build or cast on X setup

Learn to read, and to count too while youre at it. I can help with numbers above 3, thats where it gets real tricky :)
Retard

>>714829358
constant status updates to chineese overlords

>>714836178
>>714836524
>You have to pay attention to the screen when you fight Corrupted Endgame Boss!
How is that a good argument? 99,9999999999999999% of the gameplay time you can just put a tape on top of a button and read a book while playing. The game needs some balancing to be more engaging.

>>714854538
>It devolves the farther you get into endgame.
ARPG gameplay in this kind of top down isometric way has always been very on-button focused, though.

I seriously dont see the issue with the game having both viable playstyles, because both ARE viable. In 0.2 I made multiple combo focused builds that I managed to push well into T15 maps with very little currency investment.
I dont get why the game cant have both while it clearly can. People will prefer one-button setups because its faster and more efficient, while some will prefer more combo styles because its fun and varied.

>>714829542
same

>>714854538
>Jap devs who understand the concept of fun
what

When will they add the missing weapons, and the build variety that introduces, instead of just fiddling with systems?

>ARPG players whine and cry about tiny issues and balloon them to complete hyperbole after playing for 20 minutes
Holy shit, aint no way, say it aint so!

>>714855004
With every patch? Just like theyve stated they will? Just like 0.2 did?

>>714855064
>Please Daddy GGG, dripfeed me!

Let me rephrase, when will they add ALL the missing weapons?

>>714854538
>I'm saying that the more you level the more the ARPG gameplay (what little it has) goes out the window. It devolves the farther you get into endgame.
Thats because you overlevel the content, monster levels cap way before character level does. You have to take risks and do deadlier maps if you feel like things are getting too easy, thats the whole point of the system.
>This genre needs to be in the hands of Jap devs
If you hate killing basic monsters with long combos, then you definitely don't want japs to do action rpgs. As fun as Nioh 2 is the Diablo-loot system in the game is way too simple and you do need to do 2-3 combos to kill even small monsters.
Path of Exile 2 is going for the sweet spot where standard exploring is like Diablo 2 where monsters other than Rares go down in 1-2 hits, while bosses are just outright Souls bosses. Thats understandably a hard thing to balance in a game where people can break the game with crazy builds.

>>714855004
Every weapon class is now tied to a character class, so when Duelist aka Gladiator gets released, Swords get released. Or when Druid gets released, Claws get released etc.

>>714828220 (OP)
All the information present tells us that they have nothing. The mercs were from poo2. The mercs all have skill gem setups from poo2. The bosses that were integrated into the new poe1 gameplay were from poo2. That's why one of the bosses has super slow telegraphed spear throws that you are meant to dodge roll away from at the last second. That's why another has a bullet hell segment that your meant to dodge roll away from. That's why all the new lines of dialogue from the mercs have the edgy atheist aesthetic because the normal writer for poo2 is a filthy danger hair who sticks broom handles up his ass.

At this point I'm just waiting for Titan Quest II and praying it will be worth playing

>>714855174
>early access title releases content slowly
Noooooooooooooo waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy
You bought into it retard, if you dont like it youre the one to blame.

>>714855249
At the point where you are so powerful that you can clear the entire screen with one ability cast, the enemies will also be so powerful that one or two hits will most likely also spell your end. Then the game devolves into this porridge of massive hordes of enemies dying in colorful bursts of particle effects and suddenly you are dead because some of those hundreds of enemies managed to nick you somewhere amidst all that visual noise.

All in all, not a very fun or engaging experience.

I want to know why anyone would pay to beta test a free to play game

>>714855309
>The mercs were from poo2. The mercs all have skill gem setups from poo2.
Are you telling me that GGG is reusing already made assets to create new Leagues? PREPOSTEROUS! Old GGG never did such a thing! PoE 1 Breach Hand being just a reskinned Cleave effect hand and Breach monsters just being reskins of Act 4 and Act 3 monsters doesn't count because, it just doesn't okay?!!!

>>714855671
I payed to understand the state of the game based on my own experience instead of through the schizo shitflinging and retarded takes you get here.

>>714855636
Which is what PoE 2 is trying to fix. But they can only fix it so far because players can choose to stay in map tiers that are 15 levels below them to play it safe. Hardcore players do that all the time, they intentionally don't take unnecessary risks and calculate their farm to be as safe as possible. Which means screen clearing while minimizing monster oneshots.
With a map system you can also control this. Want monsters to be tankier without being rippier? Roll monster health- and defence mods. Map is now relatively safe while monsters take longer to kill.

>>714828220 (OP)
Hope they delete the game and refund everyone who purchased this slop trash. I will be playing poe 1 though, I have plans for manastack KB after I finish my FR

>>714828220 (OP)
I still can't believe I got roped into buying this shit. It's literally just the first game but with a lot less content and some system changes (poo1 is an atrocious game as well).

>>714855701
They were a small independent company with less than 50k total players at that point. They are now a AAA studio with the world's largest publisher backing it. These cunts took a Christmas vacation at the height of their 30 dollar early access launch for poo2 and I can guarantee you not even 1/10th of their staff celebrate Christmas.

>>714855840
But that doesn't actually do anything to improve the actual gameplay, it just removes the sudden death element. You'll still just be running around hammering one or two keys for a few minutes to clear a map.

In all honesty, I do not see how you can offer players a power fantasy on this level without it devolving into this kind of musou hogwash.

>>714855964
>These cunts took a Christmas vacation
The fucking monsters.

>>714856061
>You'll still just be running around hammering one or two keys for a few minutes to clear a map.
Name a game that isn't like that. Every game you press 2-4 buttons in a level for few minutes.

>>714828220 (OP)
nothing
its too confusing as it is
feel like i needs to go to night school just to take classes in byuildcrafting for this game

>>714828220 (OP)
>expectations
That it will consist of the remainder of what was meant to be in 0.1 and then later meant to be in 0.2
>hopes
I don't dare hope for anything

>>714856113
You know full well the difference between clearing maps in an ARPG and something like playing a fighting game, you disingenuous faggot.

>July
>0.3
Looking forward to 1.0 coming out in 2030.

>>714856123
>pick a skill you think is cool
>scale defenses
>scale damage
>add support effects that benefit you
>pick nodes on tree that say +GOODSTUFF

Thats it man, its not that hard

>>714856226
Not that anon but youre just complaining about ARPGs being ARPGs. Its like complaining racing games have cars.

>>714855770
Why not just wait until you can play the full game for free instead of paying for a wip? What good is understanding the state of the game when everything in it will be changed before release anyways? Is it just fomo?

>>714855964
so they took 17 days off during the holidays, whats the big deal?

>>714856064
Sorry not sorry. Non Christians don't deserve a Christmas vacation.

I love how POO 2 "crafting" is basically just an ID scroll with extra steps

>>714856353
Over 2 weeks is a ridiculously long holiday. Especially from an industry that constantly guilt trips consumers over crunch and how they deserve to be paid more for their games

>>714856226
>Arpg needs to be a fighting game.
Or you can just go back to your precious fighting games. You can't have it both ways, you can't have hordes of monsters and then fighting game combat where you take 2 minutes to kill a single Fallen. Even Beat'em'up games has you air juggling multiple thugs at once with simple sweeping combos.

>>714856324
ARPGs do not have to be mindless grind, though. It baffles me how the fans of this genre are content with just watching number go up (or down if you are looking at clear times).

It's not even like "number go up" necessitates the kind of brainless gameplay that these games offer. It's like optimizing is more important to these people than actually being engaged.

>>714856460
Lick the capitalist corpo boot harder you absolute vermin, holy shit

>>714828678
>how dare this developer not completely abandon their old game for the sake of new one
let me guess, you're a fan of pirate software?

>>714856575
The thing youre missing is that people genuinely enjoy that mindless grind. The act of blasting through maps might be very monotone, but the process of getting there, crafting your gear, figuring out what works, theorycrafting, incorporating unique effects etc etc, all that stuff is the real game

Theres a reason why poe1 players refer to Path of Building as the real game. You might not like it but its something that holds tens of thousands of people glued for months at a time.

If you want more meaningful combat or whatever, play Nioh 2, Character action games or Souls, thats what I do.

>>714856575
>ARPGs do not have to be mindless grind, though.
They eventually turn into that because the longer you play a single game, more basic rhythm of the combat gets ingrained into your spine, more you perform from muscle memory and less from you paying attention. And Arpgs are the type of games that people play for thousands, maybe tens of thousands of hours.

When I boot up Binding of Isaac, I have cleared some of the room encounters so many times that it happens automatically and they're not engaging anymore. Its just robotic movement.

>>714828220 (OP)
I think it will be 2 new characters and bunch of new uniques. I'll probably come back. I skipped 0.2. If they're desperate i can imagine them whipping out act 4 but its probably too early for that

>>714828220 (OP)
I will play when they add all acts. Running same acts is cancer.

>>714856595
I dont get vacations for over 2 weeks and then cry about how hard I work and how I deserve to be paid more. Sounds like the faggot defending this behavior is the corpo bootlicker who wants to give up his money.

>>714856831
heh yeah man.... imagine taking holidays.... couldnt be me because im such a tttttttough sonofabitch heh....

>>714856831
>I dont get vacations
I have a hard time believing that late night burger/euro working hour shitposter on 4chan is the model of a hard worker. Why are you posting here, why aren't you working at your job right now? Or sleeping since tomorrow its another day at your job since you never take vacations.

>>714856730
Oh, I agree that while you are working towards the endgame, ARPGs can be fun, very fun even. It's only when you actually do reach that endgame and you effectively stop playing the game when your build performs effectively is that it goes from engaging to nothing but a number crunching simulator with a framework of a game around it.

I think that is something that does not have to necessarily happen.

>>714856807
>Running same acts is cancer.
You'll be doing that each league anyways.

>>714831256
absolutely deserved for developing it so slowly after even suggesting that full release under 6 months since EA release is a possibility. i truly hope it will flop completely and end up abandoning it

>>714835503
dawn

>>714857117
first big patch they did had almost 500k players, i don't think it will flop anytime soon.

>>714857076
I'm not playing each league.

>>714856995
>I think that is something that does not have to necessarily happen.
There is a definite end for any build though. Your build is like a mountain, eventually you're going to reach the peak and theres nothing left to scale. Thats when you either start a new character with new build or you burn out from the genre for the next 4-6 months and play something else. The PoE Leagues launching 3-4 times a year is very smart because the half a year addiction cycle was already present in Diablo 2. People came back to Diablo 2 every Ladder reset and every 6 months. They played a couple of weeks, burned out and came back after another half a year.

>>714828220 (OP)
Poo 2 is a fundamentally shit game. They pretend it fixes poe 1 issues but in fact it only forces poe 1 ruthles gameplay on players, while not fixing a single fundamental problem.
>every defence is shit, ES stacking is king, blowing up everything before it gets in one screen range is emperor
>need to stack IIQ and IIR to get a chance at good loot(already fucking fixed in poe 1 2 years ago!)
>visual clarity doesn’t exist
>oneshots from god knows where
>only loot from highest tier of content matters, slow progression = everything inflates HARD for you
>build diversity is even worse than in poe 1, 0.2.0 had 40% of players playing LS amazon
>”combo” is still spamming 1 spell, just after pressing 2-3 buffs, you cannot “adapt” to the situation by using slightly different spells
All while running in locations 10 times the size of poe 1 locations with 50% less movement speed, with no ability to craft good gear unless you random it and with mobs being exactly same as they are in poe 1. It only has 2 redeeming qualities, wasd movement and cool animations. Everything else is shit, and unless it pivots hard and fast from the bald vision, not only will it fucking crash, burn and die, it will drag poe 1 with it

>>714857676
filtered
lol

>>714857748
Being filtered from eating shit is not a bad thing

>>714836229
MMO mental illness "logic". they're basically wow players who ended up herding the devs into making the game about raids, about the endgame, instead of the journey (vanilla wow). The leveling was abandoned im favor of late game idiocy so now naturally everyone hates levelling. I'm surprised they're not selling skips to late game

>>714857461
There is of course a plateau that you will eventually reach, but I firmly believe it is possible to design gameplay that stays challenging and engaging even for the most optimized of builds.

That might require a departure from what are considered ARPG conventions though. And to GGG's credit, I believe that the bosses with actual mechanics that the player has to pay attention to (I am not actually sure if people have broken the game to such a degree that they can just facetank these too, though) are a step in the right direction.

>Poowunners endlessly complain PoE 1 is "Bloated"
>They remove all the bloated system for PoE 2 so they can rebuild them over time
>WAAAAAH WHERE IS MUH BLOAT I NEED 20 DIFFERENT CRAFTING MECHANICS NOOOOW

>>714857884
>They remove all the bloated system for PoE 2
Kek

>>714857851
>even for the most optimized of builds.
I don't think its possible because in the most optimized builds are the broken builds that are so good that they break the entire game in half. Game devs can always nerf the worst offenders but if they do a general balance check where every build potential ceiling is low, then the game depth also suffers as a result. There is no new builds or damage sources to discover, every build feels the same in the endgame.

The whole goal of Arpgs is to grind the game to "solve" the game and make your build so good it breaks the game in half. You can't balance the game around the most broken builds because then all the normal builds will feel like absolute shit to play in comparison and now everyone feels the need to only play the most broken shit. The state of D4 and Spiritborn class is a perfect example.

So how do you balance the mess that is Arpgs? By making sure people don't reach the peak or the "Broken" state too early in their builds. That they have to grind for it. Thats all you need to do. If it takes time and lot of grinding to get to the broken build state, then the balance is fine.

>>714857676
The entire development cycle of PoE2 so far seems to consist of "why don't we do this thing that's different from PoE1", immediately followed by "it turns out doing this was a bad idea" (and half the time they should've known it was a bad idea because it was already tried in PoE1 and subsequently removed). It's like they've never heard of Chesterton's fence.

>>714857819
>le raped tranny17

>All they had to do was expound on PoE1 or Project Diablo and they would’ve been the undisputed kings of the genre
>Made it into a souls like
Baffling

>>714857851
>And to GGG's credit, I believe that the bosses with actual mechanics that the player has to pay attention to (I am not actually sure if people have broken the game to such a degree that they can just facetank these too, though) are a step in the right direction.
The problem at hand is that ARPG bosses aren’t meant to be completed once to get some gigaloot. They are meant to be spammed and killed 100s of times for a chance of loot drop, so essentially, no matter how you balance the boss, 1 of 2 will happen:
1. If boss mechanics are too weak they will be ignored by having defenses
2. If the boss mechanics are to strong they will be minimised by having no (or minimal) defenses and fuckton of damage instead
This is an old GGG problem where they want players to be able to be killed unexpectedly sometimes while simultaneously want player to have a good investment in defences, those ideas contradict each other. As for all-rounder chars, there are a lot of bosses in poe 1 that already require you to pay attention to their mechanics

>>714858458
>SAAR EAT THE NEEDFUL

>>714859347
you are so easy to spot
lmao

>>714858559
soulslike is just a marketing colloquialism that means ''mechanically challenging boss fights."
>muh dodge roll!
you dodge more in poe 1 than you do in poe 2.

Nothing, nothing good has happened in Path of Exile since Delirium league when the casuals who stick around for 1-2 weeks go filtered because they couldn’t do max leveled delirium without farming new jewels and GGG never attempted a league of that scale again, so now every 40 year old faggot who only has 10 hrs each week to play will see all of Le content and leagues are basically dead after a week

>Want to create a new character
>realize I have to do the whole story (twice) again
>Don't want to create a new character

>>714859423
>not eating shit is a skill issue saar

>>714859446
I doubt t17 and uber bosses are farmable with league starters much

>>714859559
Thank you for funding poe2 saar!

>>714859651
imagine being this bad at PoE

>>714859651
Whomst

>>714856890
>>714856961
Illiterate ESLs who couldnt finish reading a sentence before rage posting. Vacationing for over 2 weeks is ridiculous.

>>714828220 (OP)
>All classes are added
>Active skill are tripled and we can juggle enemies like it's ninja gaiden
>Crafting table is added, scouring and chaos orbs are reverted back to their old version
>Maps rarity/quantity of items scale with difficulty instead of being a fucking suffix
>Jonathan gets crucified for lying
A man can dream

>>714828220 (OP)
Until they finish the campaign, make it not slow shit it is now and make endgame something other than "maps but worse" I simply don't care.
Also hope they change the hogshit gem system and let me have actually fun skills before act 6 and remove the fucking support gem limit

>>714859773
>Vacationing for over 2 weeks is ridiculous.
Maybe in whatever shithole country you live in. Go back to your day job, quit wasting your time here you lazy shit.

>Jarvel the Jeet out here seething again
Classic lole.

>>714859962
>make it not slow shit
Clearing first 3 Acts takes like two and half hours: https://youtu.be/J3ktqsV2nOo?si=azr0nl_x-RTEjd33

Thats hour faster than clearing Act 5 Kitava in first game.

>>714859739
doomer from /poeg/. he was posting screenshots of his forum posts bitching about the game director in the general, he though cropping out his name would prevent people from finding him.

>>714860657
>t. retard who got dunked on repeatedly and stalks some guy who was right about Poo 2 to cope

>>714860750
ok jarvel the jeet

>>714860840
the GGGjeet has gone full self-hating mode to camouflage his seethe about people laughing at 2.

Regardless of who is the jeet tranny or Chris - both games suck cock

>>714860750
>wow guys look at this awesome post i found on the forum making fun of woodful!
>lol why'd you crop the challenges?
>lmao 17/40
>SHUT UP THAT ISNT ME LEAVE HIM ALONE YES IM IN THE THREAD BUT I DIDNT SCREENSHOT MY POST!!!

>>714861086
>t. stalker retard who was and still is too stupid to realize Poo 2 is a flop
how does it feel to have less game knowledge than someone who only completed 17 challenges?

>>714828220 (OP)
>What are your hopes/expectations?
a nortubel crossover

>1 Year
>17 Challenges

>>714861234
so whats the brag here, you are a mazed faggot addicted to poo2?

>>714861381
no, that would be the GGGjeets who were too retarded to even understand what they are playing.

>>714861234
So you doompost every day of your waking life in a PoE thread while still religiously playing the game. Is there a sadder existence? You're like a battered housewife, except covered in feces.

ONE GAME
TWO BIG SHITS

>>714861454
so you were smart enough to know you were playing in the poo poo but still play it more than retarded GGGjeets? congrats, i guess.

I played poe2, the first act was fun and I almost forgot about everything bad people said about the game, but act 2 was so horrendous it soured me on the game. Act 3, while still having the unbearably long maps at least had better bosses and environments than Act 2.

>>714828220 (OP)
Endgame still being dogshit and still 0 build variety.

>>714861941
what?

>>714828220 (OP)
>0.3
Call me when it's totally free

>>714828220 (OP)
Why play it if poe 1 is available

>>714857884
But they literally did not do that? The game still has 50 different type of currencies (and yet the crafting system is still dogshit) ,50 different type of crappy mini games that they somehow feel like they need their own crafting materials (no shit like ritual or delirium or whatever are not interesting enough), a million different uniques that are mostly garbage and some that simply break the game. POE2 is in fact a and overblaoted and overdesigned mess because they port almost all of the shit they added to poe1 from the last decade, the game is just missing a bunch of skills/items and some campaign acts. I have no idea how they though they would bring in new people when the burden of knowledge is so massive from the very start.

>>714829237
I would come back for this, particularly the rework of towers and waystone mods. Towers currently make no fucking sense, in that they encourage you to stay in one place while you're supposed to be exploring the atlas.

>>714828220 (OP)
I expect a bad game that will not be better

>>714862408
>Hyperbole again
Do you ever get tired of being irrationally "outraged" all the time lil gup.

>>714862408
All games need to be Pong, anything else is bloated garbage.

>>714857884
btw, this poster is referred to bootlicker tranny and stalker schizo in the path of exile general. He's deeply mentally ill and should be avoided at all costs.

>>714862540
You lost the argument tubby

>>714862607
you are the tubbed and report a meme about jonathan in the tub in the Poe general because you're a soft, little bitch who is so mentally gone that he thinks Jonathan is his friend who he needs to protect

>>714862673
you have been having a meltdown in /poeg/ for almost half a year straight, it's no wonder that people report your posts.

>>714862525
>>714862529
>but they removed all the bloat
>wait no not like that!!
Ok, whats the point of trillion uniques that cost nothing, are useless for any lategame build but have nonexistent drop rate, so that you really cant expect them to drop during the campaign? How is this not bloat if they serve no function whatsoever? At least in poe 1 it was somewhat fixed with dusting

>>714862806
that would be you, anon. you couldn't even read the general after 0.2 dropped because you were so hurt. You lost. KWAB

>>714862837
They're called leveling uniques. They feel good during the leveling and then eventually get outclassed by higher level gear.

>>714863845
One exalt gets you better gear than 95% of these uniques and in ssf you never see them.

>>714863845
>have extremely low chance of being obtained during leveling
Whats the point? Youll drop lifespig once every few leagues(maybe) during campaign and it is also only relevant if you have wand build

>>714862837
They wouldn't be "Unique" if they were readily available and multipurpose you retard.

>>714864069
You're meant to play PoE like a roguelike each league, sometimes you win and get a GG run, sometimes you don't get shit, how it goes.

Maybe single player one and done type games are more your speed anon.

>>714863980
>>714864069
And the one time you get it during the League launch day you feel good about it, so whats the issue? I still remember back in first hour of Blight League when a random box in Act 1 Ledge dropped me Tabula Rasa. I still remember back in Diablo 2 when a random vase in Act 2 Nightmare dropped Xoph rune on my feet.
Thats why they are a thing.

>>714864069
>only relevant if you have wand build
Pretty sure every spellcaster is happy if they get +2 to all Spell skills as early as Brutus.

>>714856434
Yes, that is something retards on reddit say. Good job parroting it.

PoE2's launch was too successful.

It became too viral and attracted a huge audience of mouthbreathing FOTM retards who have been shitting the discourse of the game ever since.

>>714828220 (OP)
>Hope
We start seeing the complete rework of the game the endgame needs
>Expectations
Fuck all
>>714837774
Yes, it was
Mong

>>714854393
>Vaal dogshit into Karui dogshit
Fucking Christ all mighty fucking cancel this game already
How do you have the ambience and environment of Act 1, and from there go
>Fucking Act 2 mandatory desert diarrhea->Vaal dogshit no one likes -> Gas drinker dogshit no one likes

>>714865781
You're not even white bro.

>>714865781
I like act 3 :)

>>714866445
GET HELP

>>714865781
Its not just Karui villages but all kinds of islands, people played it back in the Alpha event.
Theres a jungle island with a cave with new siren boss in it.
Theres Flayer Acid Pools island where you get to kill those goblins who have been raping your ears in PoE 1 towns.
Theres a grey undead shore full of broken ships and fat zombies throwing anchors at you.
Theres a flooded prison straight from Dark Souls 2, built by Izaro and has a Skeletor as a boss.
Also the monster mother village from Mercenary gameplay video might be another island (or its in Act 5). Overall Act 4 seems to have most amount of variety and beach-type of level layouts.

>>714828220 (OP)
no hopes
my expectations are overbearing nerfs across the board that renders current builds useless/unfun, and the introduction of 1 or 2 new broken abilities/class changes that cause anyone who wants to play to gravitate to 1 or 2 skills/builds for the entire patch
>>714831256
poe1 is 90% bots, so the numbers are probably the same

>>714866636
Ok, if its that I am ok with it, and sounds more like a return to the overall layout of Act 1

zero hope
>we want combat to be slower and actually engaging
>every single decent build just blows up entire screens at a time
>meanwhile shit like animation locked slam exists
>ascendancy minigames are absolute horse shit

>>714866740
How come that, in the year of our Lord TWO THOUSAND AND TWENTY FIVE there is still people that don't know no one plays PoE 1?
The korean you traded with? Its a bot
The russian? A bot
Chinese? A bot
The guy that sent you a suspiciously prebuilt message? A bot
The guy that didn't even answer and just stands there and trades you? A bot
The guy standing in town for 20h? A bot

>>714828220 (OP)
poop2 is bad and will remain bad.

>>714866923
>We want combat to be slower and engaging
>Unrelatedly, here, have a horde of drugged out goblins that go at 3 times your speed, push you to a wall because of collision and stunlock you

Troonathan lied. Poe died.

>>714864260
That feeling gets quickly overwritten by dropping 100+ items from a map and not a single one being an upgrade even after spending currently (aka gambling stats) on it.

>>714866860
Also forgot to mention, the giant mutant bird who spits blood is just a placeholder for an unfinished boss in Ultimatum. The mutant bird is actually a boss in Act 4.

>>714867902
>That feeling gets quickly overwritten by dropping 100+ items from a map and not a single one being an upgrade even after spending currently (aka gambling stats) on it.
Welcome to gambling. If they would just give you Mageblood from the start, every single belt drop in the entire game is crap after the fact.

i just cant be positive about PoE2, those games arent really immersive but playing PoE1 i have this notion of interacting with wraeclast and how to get my nigga stronger.
PoE2 feels like playing Jonathans puppet show, "you should do that", "you cant do this", "this thing is useless now because i personally dont like it"
i hate it, i see this faggot on his chair and instantly get demotivated.

>>714868095
>Challenge is bad
Are you one of those reddit dads who whine that they're too busy playing games because they have 5 wives and 200 children?

>>714868195
nah, i get to maps in a day or two tops, its bad when you have to play exactly how this fag want and doing zero damage isnt fun i want to see my character progress, not feel weaker and miserable.
>>Challenge
bumping numbers in favour of the enemy and nerfing my shit isnt really a challenge, weird coming from PoE2 when the bosses already have fun patterns to interact with.

>>714828220 (OP)
that muppet in charge is an actual moron so there's no saving this

the campaign was alright but I feel like I got memed into playing just another arpg instead of the action mechanic driven evolution of an arpg where the autistic sperg mathing is the additional depth not still the entire game

>>714849181
Source.

I'm not gonna bother until 1.0 is out and then I'm probably gonna do the campaign once because they are actually good at making cool setpieces and then never touch the game again after that.

People are gonna bitch heavily when they find out all the new stuff they plan to add is going to be maori shit. No one wants to hear about or play about 50 iq jungle people.

>>714830887
Some people like playing games

>>714871697
>1 shots you
Shutup bitch

>>714835204
It's fun to play for a couple weeks every six months. And I think its fine. It also gives more dopamine than PoE2 more consistently.

>>714828220 (OP)
>tedious campaign
>same support gems
>play a few builds, settle for the only OP one, whine on the forums for a ouple week before quitting again

>>714828220 (OP)
For nothing to fundamentally change, so it will still be a trash game at it's core

>>714837479
POE1 is so much better than this shit, and every other ARPG it's insane. Even poop2 pales in comparison.

>CTRL filter
>11 results
>CTRL trann
>4 results
remarkably low for a PoE thread on this board
then again I suppose they're all just coping in /poeg/ instead at how they're farm animals who paid to do the dev's jobs for them

>>714856272
This is what /pooegg/ said tho

Crafting Process:

1. Buy tons of ilvl 83+ 30% quality Reaver Axes

2. Beast Craft split the unsplit bases with Black Mórrigans and Fenumal Plagued Arachnids

3. Alt spam bases until they have t1 flat Phys (flaring), t1/t2 hybrid % phys (Dictator's/Emperor's), or t1/t2 % phys (Merciless/Tyrannical)

4. Recombinate until every base has 2 of the prefixes mentioned in step 3.

5. Recombinate until I hit triple prefix

6. Elder Exalted Orb (making sure one suffix stays open)

7. Craft Prefixes Cannot be Changed + harvest reforge phys

8. Repeat said process 9x times until the suffixes fill.

9. Hinekora's Lock + Annul to ensure prefixes stay

10. Decide to craft the safe way with Prefixes Cannot be Changed + Scour + Craft attack speed + exalt twice then repeat

11. Hit Phys/Bleed Cull suffix

12. Clean suffixes with Cannot Roll attacks and annul the other mod

13. Craft Multimod + Prefixes cannot be changed + Veiled Exalted Orb

14. Got lucky and didn't poof the phys suffix. Crafted Damage per Endurance Charge, then unveil Dex/Int + Attack Speed

15. Tempering Orb until Physical Modifier Magnitudes

16. Divine Prefixes, then prefixes can't be changed and divine suffixes

17. Craft Phys dot multi + use Omen of Blanching for 3x white sockets

Total cost: 300 divine

>>714863845
>They're called leveling uniques
So if chase uniques are the really good ones, leveling gear is the ones that are good at their ilevel but don't scale well, whats the other 95% called? Is there a name for those?

>tons of nerfs
>shitty 2 new ascendancies
>1 new weapon
>no new campaign content
>no new mapping content
>lazy ported league mechanic from poe1
It'll be dead in less than a week.

>>714839182
I actually liked running the labyrinth for ascensions. Izaro sounded cool.

>>714874295
The funny thing is, the lab is the most PoE2 thing in PoE1, as you have to redo it if you die, you can't just place a portal to comeback to from town, yet its a thing that was cut for the god awful ascendancy methods 2 has.

>>714873340
This is very, very very gay, and I'm glad is all gone in poe2

>>714829358
Cause the games basically out and content until 1.0 is a clear content dump path before they have to do gay seasonal mechanics that nobody actually likes.

I haven't played since launch. Got a temporalis and did arbiter tier 4. Probably won't come back ever because all of these blow up screens and press 2 buttons arpg suck and this baited me into thinking itd be different during act 1 and 2..
but there was a lot of game already to play!

>>714828220 (OP)
Tried it, didn’t like it, wont be playing it further. Spent 300mtx on quadstashes

>>714873340
At least poe2 now has reached the point of poe1's crafting like 4 years ago:
>Fracture the mod u like
>Essence
>Repeat until usable
Amazing

>>714880923
Except you cant, because poe 2 doesn’t have scours, fracturing orb requires at least 4 modifiers and poe 2 essenses can only be used on normal/magic gear

>>714881891
It's even worse then, grim.
At least in poe1 you can spam essences/fossils/harvest instead of engaging on trade for all your gear

>>714828220 (OP)
I'm surprised with how much they missed with huntress. It was supposed to be the coolest class in the game but it's bland and boring