Why does Wolfenstein 3D suck to play now but Doom is still great?

>>714835019 (OP)
I don't play it because killing the actual good guys in the real world isn't fun to me.

>>714835019 (OP)
It's fun for one episode, the gameplay and variety is just too limited to carry it longer.

you can only do so much with a basic raycaster

Is that Jaguar version better?

>>714835019 (OP)
Tank controls
Redundant textures and level design
Bottlenecking enemies gets old

>>714835093
>>>/pol/

>>714835019 (OP)
>great

lets not get overboard, its tolerable

>>714835991
Oh fuck your ass faggot

>>714836108
>>>/pol/

>>714836108
>calls someone a faggot
>wants to fuck their ass

It doesn't if you know something about the Havaara Agreement?

>>714836381
Average /pol/ user

>>714835681
It's got new weapons like a flamethrower and rocket launcher, which is more important to spicing up gameplay than enemy diversity imo. You can get those weapons and more with the numerous Wolf 3D mods out there too.

Protip: Hitler : Germany :: Trump : America

Now you know....

>>714835019 (OP)
wolf 3d is very fun to play. Its only drawbacks are the BULLSHIT hitscan of mutants and having to hump random parts of the wall to find secrets

doom 2 makes me think it's just level design

>>714836108
>>714835093
>>>/pol/

>>714836996
100%. Doom 2’s level design leans into verticality, traps, and varied encounter pacing, even if some maps are just slaughterfests or giant key hunts. Meanwhile, Wolf3D is flat hallways and 90-degree corners endlessly looping into key-door-key. Doom gives you room to move and breathe, Wolf feels like you’re stuck in a maze with a BB gun.

>>714835093
>complaining that you're guaranteed to only encounter aesthetic white men for an entire game (other than Big Gretel Grosse) instead of the mystery meat slop in every game now

>>714836924
pro-tip: you can hold down the spacebar instead of spam it, and as long as you're angled toward the wall enough, pushwalls will still activate

>>714838121
I know that. But its boring to spend 75% of the level humping walls hoping you finally stumble on the one panel that pushes back

Fuck you. Wolfenstein 3D is amazing.

>>714835093
fpbp

>>714835919
>Tank controls
This is why I've always played Wolf 3D with a mouse to move; it actually works well due to the lack of followup inertia that later shooters had, and gives you so much control over the combat.

Play the Brutal Wolfenstein mod for Doom.

>>714839610
The faithful remade levels and new weapons make it the definitive way to play. Super underrated mod.

>>714835991
>>714837103
>suggests the Polish board despite them being the bad guys

>>714835019 (OP)
Wolfenstein 3D always had massive issues, mostly cuz level design, balance and enemy design were in their infancy.
Everyone usually gives up in Act 2 when you have the 360 noscoping green cunts.
Gameplay turns into a slow, grindy "wait behind a door and slowly kill one at a time" slog.

>>714835019 (OP)
it's still fun as fuck, what are you talking about?

Wolf3D gameplay has a unique ebb and flow to it. You're so fragile but also so powerful, you can't let enemies see you before you see them. Listening to doors and preparing an ambush is something you don't really do in Doom.
Spear of Destiny is actually much better. The levels are more interesting and use better signposting so you don't get lost.

>>714835093

>>714835019 (OP)
I doesn't

>>714835019 (OP)
for one, you fight and kill actual evil in doom

>>714836556
DOOOOD Nazis were ZIONISTS look at this company that made like $12 to move jews to palestine