>2 more years

why especially in cyberpunk themed movies the rich elite always lives on top while the filth is either underground or at the bottom kinda implying the rich fag would be staring down at them
wouldn't it make for the rich fag to just fuck of somewhere in space? if I was filthy rich I would be disgusted by the fact that I have to co-exist with peasants and breathe the same air and shit

>>714920245 (OP)
Barring some kind of Bible tier miracle that shit ain't happening. A mega structure like that isn't going to get built and populated in a year and a half.

>>714920487
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>714920407
Look up conspicuous consumption. To a a non zero amount of rich people, new rich especially, there is no point to having money if you can't show it off to your lesser. That is the entire point of getting rich to those people, the money is a means, not an end, the end is the ego boost.

>>714920407
>wouldn't it make for the rich fag to just fuck of somewhere in space
i think there was a movie with this premise but i forgot the name but it was with matt damon

>>714920407
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>714920597
Yes, it's called talk to any engineer, architect, or city planner alive. Also talk to anyone that has ever had to deal with a mainlander Chinese person ever in their life.

Meanwhile in 2025

>>714920663
elysium?

>>714920663
Elysium

>>714920819
>>714920827
Yeah

If you're making a game about the future, decide on a year and add another hundred years at least to it. I still can't fucking believe there's scifi with FTL travel taking place in the 2100s.

what is holding up the middle part?

>>714920245 (OP)
this shit looked dumb to be honest

>>714920407
do you really need us to explain
>I have mroe money than everyone else = I'm at the top of the social pyramid

>>714920902
FTL will never happen, ever. So since it's fantasy, the year doesn't really matter

>>714920902
Depends on whether or not the FTL comes from reverse engineering alien tech. If humans just thought it up themselves then yeah it's ridiculous. But with outside influence its acceptable to me.

>>714920407
>wouldn't it make for the rich fag to just fuck of somewhere in space?
They do exactly this in the grandaddy of all cyberpunk fiction, Neuromancer.
Richies live up on their own space station being insane genetically modified degenerates while everyone else fucks around on the ruined earth.

>>714920407
They need the poor to reaffirm their own status. if everyone is rich then everyone is middleclass. They always need someone to look down on.

>>714920934
good feng shui

>>714921001
Do you consider wormholes FTL?

>>714921001
True, as of right now FTL is pure fantasy. We could very well be stuck with Earth and Mars.

>>714920407
Because rich people need poorer people working for them, and their poorer workers need actual poor people being employed. This happens all the time in the third world, where I live for example, there's a slum right by the walls of the largest shopping mall, smack dab in the middle of one of the most expensive zones in my city, most who live there are employed by rich people.
So, I imagine it goes like this:
>Rich build apartment
>Poorer establish around them for employment
>Rich people are tired of looking at poor people all day and build a strata a tier higher
>The lower strata gets lower value which attracts more poor people

>>714920902
It's either that or it needs to be alternate timeline like 2017 Prey did.

>>714921291
I could see us on the Galilean moons eventually but that's it.

>>714921310
>Because rich people need poorer people working for them
until we finally get robots with real ai

>>714920934
my dick thinking about feet

>>714921291
People get really angry because interestellar empires are all rage in sci-fi but as far as reality is concerned, they probably doesn't exist, otherwise we would've been noticed or colonized already.
Proably the peak of a civilization is building around their star and maybe living in a digital form, otherwise just cybernetically or genetically adapted for life in space.

>>714921601
>rich people in control of a robot army without empathy.
I don't see this ending well, especially if they dont need them anymore.

>>714920245 (OP)
The Saudis are building their own futuristic city in the desert. Probably the closest thing to a Hengsha tier project in real life.

>>714921858
it's already in development hell

>>714921730
>especially if they dont need them anymore.
what do you mean? we would always need robots

>>714921964
i mean poor people hogging all that space and resources.

>>714921919
Shocking.

>>714921919
It's antithetical to how real cities develop, it was a failure already on paper.

>>714921858
Desert people will waste money on the stupidest shit.

how come deus ex's version of 2052 looked somewhat plausible whereas when Eidos took over they made it look even more futuristic in 2027

>>714920245 (OP)
A Girls' Last Tour game?

>>714922057
Wasn't there a huge recession and near societal collapse between DX1 and HR?

>>714920663
>i think there was a movie with this premise
You meant Elysium but the fact the rich mostly fucked off offworld is pretty central to Blade Runner, too.

>>714922407
Pandemic.

>>714920934
magnets turned the other way

>>714921001
To be honest, I genuinely can't envision a future where people even have their own "junker spaceships" and shit, considering just how fucking expensive spaceships and fuel are. It could get a million times less expensive over the next two centuries and it'll still cost a fuckton.

>>714924089
all you need is cheap energy but we're never getting that as long as the economy is tied to oil

>>714924341
>as long as the economy is capitalist
ftfy

>>714920245 (OP)
This is the architecture for easily impressed retards, bugs and arabs. No wonder AI took der jerbs.

>>714920407
Have you literally never been to China? Ground level is literally peasant Chinese walking around without their shoes on holding chickens by the necks while the CCP members live in the skyscrapers.
Just look at Bald & Bankrupt's video on China. The peasants don't even have shops to do their businesses in, they literally work on the sidewalk while hundreds of other people stand around on the sidewalks with signs that say "will do oddjobs for cash". There's a reason Hong Kong inspired so much cyberpunk aesthetics. In Hong Kong and now in most of China, the 99% had 0 future and it was impossible to gather wealth. Your country is kinda supposed to be made up of a lower, middle, upper, and 1% classes. In cyberpunk it's largely just the lower class and the 1% with barely anything inbetween.

>>714920245 (OP)
the concentration of power will only get worse, we will be living in the literal underground

but at least we will have cute robot gfs

>>714924089
>To be honest, I genuinely can't envision a future where people even have their own "self propellered horse carriages" and shit, considering just how fucking expensive automobiles and fuel are. It could get a million times less expensive over the next two centuries and it'll still cost a fuckton.
this is (you) 150 years ago

>>714921067
The earth wasn't ruined in neuromancer. There was definitely a lot of shitty parts but it wasn't eco-collapsed or anything

>>714920245 (OP)
>This is supposed to be China in 2027
Damn so they got something right?

>>714920245 (OP)
>nah dude trust me AI is totally gonna kill us all in 2 years unless we give the corps 10 billion dollars
>no dude you don't understand it was in a paper dude!

>>714920245 (OP)
Imagine living in a country so tiny you think that. We haven't even approached making the BAMA in Burgerland, let alone cities on top of cities.

>>714920245 (OP)
I thought this was the brawl opening from the catalog

>>714922407
>>714923659
How would that cause all of the infrastructure to disappear? Did singapore collapse in on itself?

>>714920630
Those are called nouveau riche and are useful idiots that buffer the actual elite from those that have managed to achieve some form of power capital.

>>714921858
nothing comes out of islamic countries except oil, dried fruits, figs, dates, etc. those low IQ muslims don't make anything, this "futuristic city" is never gonna be a thing or close to what they say it will be like

>>714927416
That's the same reason people buy modern GPUs: to oppress me.

>>714925272
>but at least we will have cute robot gfs
your robot gf will be a monthly service, and it will take up more than half your paycheck

>>714929417
>and it will take up more than half your paycheck
pff, like that's a change from a real gf or something. might even be cheaper honestly

>>714929417
>he doesnt jailbreak his gf
by that i mean making them smaller

>>714920245 (OP)
>The Planet’s Dyin’, Adam!

>>714920245 (OP)
Has this ever been reversed? Where living in the sky sucks and all the rich people are on the ground?

>>714931410
Real life. Good buildings are generally shorter than project buildings.

>>714925597
>and fuel are
gasoline was almost comically cheap before the 70s. Pretty sure rocket fuel hasn't gotten any cheaper. Spaceships also have a way lower fault tolerance than a car.
Demand also has a much lower ceiling. Cars can go to tons of different places that already exist. The utility of personal spaceships is basically completely dependent on there being multiple different colonies in space, which could very well never happen. It's certainly showing no signs of happening atm.

>>714920245 (OP)
Oi chinks, where' my fuckin two-tiered city and robo dicks?

>>714925941
ONLY 10 BILLION???

>>714921001
>>714924089
>>714925597
It's not even about price to be honest.

I don't think a Sci-Fi future is possible because the resources for it to happen simply don't exist. In all of these stories it takes some bullshit thing that provides a fuck tonne of energy in a manageable size or something that makes a currently impossible technology possible. We're already dwindling down Earth's resources and are going to be hitting an energy crisis in the near future because of how much AI is eating up.

Same thing goes for medical treatments, there's going to be things that remain incurable indefinitely because the method / resources required to treat them simply doesn't exist in this reality.

>>714934216
The cope is that, while iron is massively "abundant" on Earth, the economical reserves we'll have right now will be used to build hecking epic starships and rockets that will let us tardwrangle asteroids for more materials, which will let us make more space vehicles, which will let us mine even more asteroids, etc. I think we still have a good couple centuries left of cheap iron so it might be a possibility I guess. Certainly sounds more feasible than time-space warping.

>>714925597
>>714924089
Personal spaceships will NEVER be as commonplace as cars because people cannot be fucking trusted.

If you accidentally crash your car into a building, typically the worse that happens is a single room gets wrecked. If you crashed your spaceship into a building, the whole building coming down.

>tfw Gaben will become David Sarif of our timeline

>>714934806
For some reason, it didn't even occur to me that flying car terrorists would be a thing. Man, think about all the speeding/drunk retards and putting them inside a flying car as well. Flying car terrorism would actually be way way easier than regular car terrorism too, because there's a lot more space to fly around in. The only thing slowing this down would be a massive pricetag to filter out the browns and poors but even then it might not be enough.

>>714920407
Pyramid schemes require intermediaries. In Deus Ex's case some of the management of those in control need to be on the ground to, well, manage things on the ground.

What'shername in this very location whines about not being taken seriously enough in shadow society to be able to do as she likes instead of doing what she's told where she's told just to remain relevant enough to be kept around.
Meanwhile the old guy and Bob basically disappeared from society and the plot since augmentations went public and only bothered to get involved when it suited them.

>>714921858
Even if it gets finished, it'll just be populated mainly by Indian slave labor

>flying car
it's called a helicopter

>>714935359
people want something with a lower chance of killing them

>>714935550
not possible

>>714935550
per capita, you're more likely to die driving a car than a helicopter

>>714935550
not possible, and also i don't know why you think something that would fly like a helicopter would be less dangerous than one. you know people who die in helicopter deaths don't die to the blades, right?

>>714920407
I lived in a hilly big city and the hilltops were allowed to stay rich low density neighborhoods forever while zoning only allowed higher density (lower rent/more housing) in the valleys along noisy roads. Coruscant is real.

>>714935202
>The only thing slowing this down would be a massive pricetag to filter out the browns and poors but even then it might not be enough.
Anon, some guys literally rented Cybertrucks to use as suicide bombs a few months ago. And I don't there's ever been an instance of terrorists using their own planes to carry out an attack.

The price tag is a non-issue.

I'm just going to be honest, possibly the worst thing about our oligarchical ultrarich elites is that they don't spend money making obviously evil megastructures. Its so fucking lame. If Musk spent his infinite fucking money at least making some shit like in the OP there would be at least something positive about him

>>714940543
Why do you want dystopia to become reality?

>>714925648
iirc the ocean was black as oil and there where giant floats of styrofoam floating in it and getting real meat is impossible

SUPERPOOPER 2030

Why do these future sci fi always try to say Detroit will get some Renaissance? The Rust Belt is NEVER coming back. They only became giants back in the day because the great lakes were still important for American industry and logistics. Now that fast transport has been democritized everywhere except for the vast never inhabitated stretches of mountain and land in Cascadia or deserts of the Southwest theres no reason to ever go back. Even if we had Serif levels tech. Why would they move into Detroit and not fucking build up a town into a industrial city like what the MIC and Space X does with small Texas towns.

>>714921858
Chongqing is actually the closest thing to Hengsha. You can have that vertical urban sprawl in a place that is mountainous. Not flat.

>>714941276
We're already living in borderline dystopia, it might as well at least look cool

>>714942332
Big tech wants to move from california to detroit because of the cost of business being so much lower.

>>714941276
It already is, you're just too medicated to even notice.

>>714922407
>>714923659
That really isnt enough. Things from the golden age would still be leftover and seen like pic related. To go from HR style architecture and technology to the fucking Grey boxy concrete jungle of Hells Kitchen in 30 years is fucking impossible outside aworld war with a majorTatical bombing campaign razing the entire municipality.

>>714920597
Number one that's terror

>>714942556
How right I wish you were. Truth is theyre moving to Texas. Elons pretty much moved his entire base of operations here.

>>714920407
I don't understand why the elite are hellbent on destroying western civilization. Who's going to maintain all the beautiful things built by them?

>>714923659
>disease wipes out india
>earthquake dunks LA and SF in the ocean
This is a dystopia?

>>714921919
whoa I would have never imagined

>>714942778
Houston is filled with faggots and niggers
But soon it will be New New Delhi

>>714942994
Hadrian and several European expulsions

>>714943507
Well yeah I get it but they're so stupid they have no long-term thinking if they're going to come out on top of this.

>>714920407
In Elysium they did fuck off somewhere in space

>>714942994
The elites literally do not give a shit. As long as it benefits them now, they don't care.

>>714944603
It's already backfiring on them.

>>714920407
>redditfrog
eat a dick

>>714943680
They're already moving to China in droves
They did the same thing with the Dutch and the UK.
They're fucking locusts who will just move wherever is more convenient.

>>714923659
>Utah declares independence and annexes Arizona and Nevada

Mormon Empire?

>>714920407
It's thematic ya see.

>>714921647
Agreed. Maybe we can see dyson spheres in other systems though.

>>714945246
They can't blend in China, no way. The elite there are having too much of a good time to let these cockaroaches come in an fuck everything up for them

>>714945959
They blended in Europe just fine and later the USA.
If you told me 15 years ago that people would be bitching about tits on a fictional women and that whores would be streaming online and selling their bath water I'd just laugh it off.

The world changes and these cunts have both the money, power and influence to do so.

>>714946932
Don't worry too much about it. Everything will be fine

>>714937782
Hahahaha really?

>>714949087
We're currently on track for (over) 4 degrees of warming by 2100, which doesn't sound so bad, but 2 degrees was supposed to be the "goal" (lmao) for "merely very very bad consequences in our lifetime (just more PR put than that)." Very bad means we're gonna need new words for the hurricanes, flooding, heat waves that'll happen. Also the pathogens. There's LOTs of nasty bugs out there just waiting for vectors to come bring them a little further from the Africa to kick us in the teeth. We're already at a point where "fire season" is just "fire", and "records breaking" every year.
Well really, every time we reassess it gets worse. So more than that.
Actually I recall bitcoin was flat out doubling our heating rate, and that was before AI entered popular usage.
The only reason people aren't out there screaming is because humans don't compute things that big. They can think as far as "eating today and tomorrow", pretty much.

>>714950227
>The only reason people aren't out there screaming is because humans don't compute things that big. They can think as far as "eating today and tomorrow", pretty much.
I understand completely I say this all the time. I won't pretend to be a giga genius but I do know shit's indeed fucked. Well I'd rather we go out in a typhoon of fire than be genocided by subhuman niggers that's for sure.

>>714942246
It's not outright impossible because Molly chastises Case about not eating a portion, telling him "They got to grow and feed an animal for it. For years!"
Don't recall anything about the oceans and styrofoam but sounds plausible enough.

>>714950227
>>714950502
>tfw you hear (educated) friends mention having kids
I don't say shit, but would you want to grow up in our world?

>>714950956
>I don't say shit, but would you want to grow up in our world?
Bro no one fucking does if I could have prevented my birth I would have and the climate change shift probably isn't gonna happen. Nothing ever fucking happens. No one is fucking breeding except Africa even fucking pajeets aren't everyone knows shit's fucked.

>>714942436
Man, as cool as it looks, I wouldn't be able to live and normally function in a city like this. I've seen enough webms, there's zero chance I am taking an elevator to 90th floor in a building in China.

>>714927258
>Did singapore collapse in on itself?
A man can dream though.
A man can dream.

>>714941276
The world blows, it might as well blow in the shadow of giant death star pyramids.

>>714943028
>disease wipes out india
Also Pakistan and India nuked each other.

>>714951146
Of course it isn't.
To even meet the (compromise) goals would now require not just a complete re-tooling of basically all industrial society but actively cooling the planet. The cutting edge projects prototypes to "help" that are orders of magnitudes below even being in the ballpark needed. Also thermodynamics laugh at the very idea. The blue planet will become another unlivable rock in space through our stupidity, how does that make you feel?

>>714951389
Gooold?

>>714951532
Give me a ballpark time frame. I don't give a fuck about my own life but I'm just one dumb retard that doesn't matter however it does make me think how fucked things have gotten if it truly gets so bad the planet will sink

>>714952085
We'll eat each other before that happens and it's all behind probabilities. Usually people chart to 2100, an number that fits in our heads.
The arab spring that made refugees a buzzword was 1 million people in 2011. We expect 200-millions to a billion by 2050.
Sea rise of 130 feet is something relatively easily understood by drowning monkeys (Major cities are mostly costal), but you don't need rise that high for flooding - infrastructure already needs upgrades today. It's still a possibility (I've read 30%, sometime less/more) for 2100.
Arable land will be gutted by conditions to less than half of today. What still operate would have reduced yield - crops grow at certain temperature. They grow worse the further you get. Grain is nearly half global food and would be cut by over half in a world with more people (for a while yet).
Historically, if you starve the population, they revolt. Works every time. Just this time it'd happen in countries with nukes.
Which is why people don't really chart past 2100. Also, a bunch of cascading factors (gas trapped in melting ice, ocean acidification, rainforests being unable to cope and kicking off more heating down the line) are harder estimates yet.
One way it's been put it is, life will survive. The species probably will. XBOX pass as we know it today, I wouldn't put your backlog off too much.

>>714952921
>Which is why people don't really chart past 2100. Also, a bunch of cascading factors (gas trapped in melting ice, ocean acidification, rainforests being unable to cope and kicking off more heating down the line) are harder estimates yet.
And don't forget the magnetic field shift that's supposed to happen this century as well

>>714921647
peak civilization is digital upload into a utopian simulation run on an insane speed relative to the rest of the universe orbiting a blackhole to take advantage of time dilation for further additional time and powered by the blackhole itself. this would enable as close to an "infinite" existence as is possible (still not going to be infinite - universe won't last infinitely, but you'll be getting multiple orders of magnitude of effective time compared to heat death), and every person will live in their own version of heaven in which they are god

>>714952085
We're charted to exceeding in one or two centuries (at most) the most dramatic changes that ever occurred on this planet before. Said changes previously took tens of thousands of years to occur.
Earth had five mass extinction events each killing over three quarter of species.
We will be dealing (more like dying) through something that has never occurred on this planet before.

>>714953274
Ugh, can't wait to pay more taxes and surrender more of my personal liberties so that people in charge can pretend to stop this.

>>714953258
>powered by the blackhole itself.
How's that work?

>>714920771
>got deus ex and alita themed arms
pretty cool

>>714953668
It doesn't. Retard-kun read too many sci fi books, we can't even figure out nuclear fusion yet.

>>714920771
not actual implants, just meme shit that pretends to ''read'' skin impulses, practically some indian is steering her arms, has to pretend to it works because it's trying to scam investors and get more funding.

glial scarring is real, tfw no bob page to invent neuroPOZ, actual BCIs never ever in our lifetime/this century, every 'neurotechnology' company is a scam

>>714950227
>>714951532
>>714952085
>>714952921
>>714953274
Do you guys use topics like these to feed your depression or something?
>they unironically believe what THE EXPERTS say knowing that all academia and institutions are compromised
How do you do it? Yeah I used to believe this shit too before I got older and started noticing how rotten society is at that level.
Now I couldn't give less of a shit, I mean even if you 100% believe in every climate change prediction model, there's no point letting it affect you emotionally when you know the powers-that-be won't ever do anything about it.

>>714953274
The solution is clearly to massively raise taxes on ordinary people while ignoring mega-corps doing it, of course

>>714953959
>we can't even figure out nuclear fusion yet
>yet
Yet implies it's a matter of time and not a complete impossibility just like FTL travel

>>714920245 (OP)
China will have something like this way sooner than USA. Trump ruined innovation and progress.

>>714952921
>>714953274
yeah nah it's hard to believe any of the "official words" anymore. If it happens it happens. I couldn't give less of a fuck.
>>714954214
I don't give a fuck I'm depressed because there isn't any point to none of this faggotry that's left

>>714925941
God AI 2027 has got to be the dumbest prediction imaginable

>>714954582
I don't know anon, would you want to live in a city with a city over it blotting the sun and raining debris over you all day? Seems like the shit dimwits are impressed by, because they don't think about the implications a city like this would cause. Like that vanity project in the desert, always destined to fail.
Also, knowing the expertise, or lack thereof, of chinese workers i'd rather stay out of the way before a mild breeze buries me and my house under millions of tons of steel and cement

>>714951532
least the dead aren't coming back and casuing nuclear explosions.

>>714954693
Then kill yourself and spare us your loathsome company, asshole.

>>714920245 (OP)
This layout is completely retarded, what's even the point

>>714950227
Do read Starfish by Peter Watts. You're in for a treat.

>>714924887
>getting your history from bald & bankrupt
I see why you have the story of China backwards. guy's a total commie. HK was the land of opportunity and the last bastion of freedom in china before the CCP rolled the tanks in. they had some protests over it you may remember. HK inspired cyberpunk because it was futuristic and sleek (thanks to capitalism) but had a looming threat hanging over it (communist rule at the end of the 99 year lease) that gave it an air of foreboding.

>>714949704
yeah some retard filled one with explosives and set it off in front of a Trump hotel in vegas. funny thing is, it was so robust it basically held in the explosion and did no damage to the hotel. didn't even crack the glass doors he was parked in front of.

>>714927437
does anybody really think all those giant buildings in dubai were made by arabs? they're literally all low iq retards that got lucky squatting on land that had oil underneath it and they use it to pay engineers from actually intelligent countries to come over and make all of their shit

>>714953274
the hockey stick chart championed by al gore is totally debunked now btw. the guy sued a couple for calling him a fraud, and the judge gave him an easy win condition; simply show your work and get paid. he refused, and lost the suit. these people are totally full of shit. Germany is knocking down nuclear plants and opening coal mines. no one is tariffing china and india over pollution. the solution to climate change is always tax the west more and make their lives harder. it's a grift by people who hate you.

>>714954214
You don't need experts to know we're having record flooding, forest fires, viral outbreaks, hurricanes, heat waves every year and put two and two together.

>>714920407
I recall that Beneath a Steel Sky subverts that. The rich live underground, safe from the pollution.

>>714955151
I didn't start this shit you nigger

>>714955874
This is all it's about you dumb factoid niggers

>>714955675
That's literally what happened and that's why their project is failing

>>714955418
For me, it's starf-
>anon wasn't recommending blindsight
Oh. Well it's starfish and maelstrom.

>>714955418
>>714957390
Watts is a great writer but he's also a garden variety shitlib who hasn't followed through his own theses. he talks about how people having kids are killing hte planet, but he's saying it in english to people who actually give a shit about the environment and have a negative replacement fertility, not in swahili to people who have ten kids and crack open transformers for cooking oil. he doesn't even grasp that the logical endpoint of his deterministic universe stance is scientific racism.

>>714920245 (OP)
>Deus Ex has been dead for almost 10 years
why
just why did Square have to sour MD's reception with the whole ''augment your pre order'' bs

>>714957618
He's also obsessed with vampires.
Anyway I love Gibson's blue ant books but I'm not go around praising his views.

>>714956667
Our individual perception does not count as hard evidence. Your logic basically is
>it's been really hot for the meagre 10 years I have been an adult male so the Earth will become a desert in 80 years!!
Actually you DO need trustworthy experts to tell you wether the temperatures are truly significant because your 30 year lifespan is less than a speck of the timescale you need to understand climate change. Yet we live in a time where we can't trust the experts. Get it?

>>714920407
You chose the appropriate image for your retarded post.

>>714934216
>We're already dwindling down Earth's resources and are going to be hitting an energy crisis in the near future because of how much AI is eating up.
Lol.

>"I don't think the water crisis is easily solvable. Most of the drinkable water resources are already taped, and the energy cost of desalinization plants makes them impracticable as a solution, given how much mankind lose water to brushing teeth every day".
Lmao.

>>714920407
>why especially in cyberpunk themed movies the rich elite always lives on top while the filth is either underground or at the bottom kinda implying the rich fag would be staring down at them
Because it reflects reality.

>>714920407
in ff7 they are trying to escape to space to leave the poors behind

>>714942332
detroit politicians are more corrupt and will let them turn it into a company town

>>714957898
Yeah we don't have hard evidence. Just public data like
>the five warmest summer recorded in Europe occured since 1500 occurred 2002
>the first hurricane that was suggested be labelled category 6 (irma) in 2017, with Maria following 2 weeks later
>wheat growing conditions moving 160 miles poleward per decade since 1960
Y'know what nevermind. I guess it's just a coincidence they were ready to commit to carbon free in Reagan time before he repelled the experts of that time with Line Must Go Up. Nothing ever happens, everything is fine.

>>714959098
I didn't say climate change is for sure not real. Or that I haven't seen the climate act differently where I live, in the last 10-12 years. I said I don't know if it means anything, because we live in a world that is so insanely psy-op'ed that I don't trust any major narrative pushed by academics and governments anymore.
Maybe it is real and we're fucked and maybe the naysayers are right and this is all a temporary, irrelevant change in the climate that will last for our brief stay on this Earth and then be gone because humans can't truly change the climate. We'll see but either way I won't let it affect me emotionally.

>>714920407
because its pulp fiction for brainlets mainly. It helps convey class disparity when the rich are literally on top

>>714920407
>the rich elite always lives on top while the filth is either underground or at the bottom kinda implying the rich fag would be staring down at them
doesn't the talmud say something about this

>>714959301
it seems you are emotionally incapable of confronting that climate change might be real
I was the same, I don't have advice for you really except that regardless of whether you research it, or believe it is real, it will define the 21st century & probably several centuries beyond now
If you're anti-immigration you want to stop carbon emissions right now because it will cause a massive refugee crisis that centrists will cuck to

>>714954065
I mean its still better than nothing. Being able to pour a glass or wipe your ass, even if it takes 10 minutes to do, is still better than not being able to do shit with your stumps

>>714959567
It's the opposite. You're emotionally incapable of confronting that climate change might not be real. Watch as you get noticeably upset over this simple picture.

>>714959567
fucking btfo >>714959962
Fucking faggots TRUST THE SCIENCE

>>714960342
Hold on. I got more.

>>714960476
Based

>>714960508
Just one more for now.

>>714959567
I literally said it could be real. But I believe in stoicism so I don't let it affect me (different from saying "I don't care"). Not sure what part of that makes you think I'm emotionally incapable.

>>714960783
Good show. These faggots won't even trust mainstream sources

>>714920245 (OP)
>que in all of those 'Are we on the ground floor? Actually it's the 17th floor!!' tik tok china videos

>>714920407
i think it's really interesting that, in the past, owning the lowest room in a tenement building was a sign of being insanely wealthy, that was the status symbol people wanted because it meant you could leave instantly rather than needing to travel to leave (like the poors)
why did this change?

>>714920407
rich people need a subhuman class to shit on (literally)
I imagine that those rich fucks have medieval style toilets that they take dumps in and the shit just falls on the poorfags below
imagine an endless rain of shit from your master while you compete with other poorfags in the rat race while shaming people who quit

>>714920407
Earth is a paradise, the logical step is to cleanse the filth and sent it to space awhile the rich remain on nature enjoying life while people rot in space colonies mining or whatever.

>>714962619
elevators, poor people had to take the staris to live on the top floors.

>>714931410
Beneath a steel sky

>>714921858
>more money laundering shit
Meh

>>714965495
by the time elevators existed, buildings were so tall that using the elevator took longer than using the stairs took in antiquity though
think this >>714964658 is more accurate

im gonna take a shit

>>714961789
>is this cooking oil? actually its gutter oil!

>>714934951
he wants to life forever

>>714920487
As a engineer I can tell you a design for such a project would take at last half a decade if not a decade outright of dozens of design firms collaborating.

>>714951532
This is nonsense. This planet's biosphere had survived the great Permian extinction, this is nowhere near as bad.

>>714922242
I wish.

>>714927437
I wish the high IQ muslims never got conquered.

megalophobia is such a cool fucking thing to me. I just love looking at artwork/images of fantasy structures that capture that feeling.

How is our real world 2025 so much lamer than every depiction of it from 20+ years ago? Even the dystopian predictions usually had cool tech and some concept of scientific and technological progress. We got the lamest future possible because by many metrics we already are in a dystopia but people don’t notice it because of shit like social media mind fucking everyone and shit like uber eats and the ability to shop from home and endless access to porn.no reason to go outside anymore for the average person.