This game becomes a joke after you beat Elden Ring.

Possibly, if you're a shallow person

>>714955038 (OP)
All games do bronybro

Before you die you see the ring

>>714955038 (OP)
>Getting used to spastic bosses makes previous games easier
You don't say.

elden ring is rng slop don't compare it to dark souls

>eating a healthy and balanced diet is piss easy after eating only explosive diarrhea inducing slop for a month
I'm shocked.

>>714955038 (OP)
And yet it's still better.

>>714955038 (OP)
Elden Ring forgot what Souls was really about.

Dark Souls was about knowing how to do things and was never a hard action game. I would argue Demon Souls was even more pure with its gimmicky bosses.

Not to say you can't cheese ER though that feels more like unintended exploits.

The parry timing in ds1 is almost to lenient, but every other game (except bloodborne) has insanely precise timing to the point parrying just isn't worth trying unless you spend a good amount of times and deaths practicing on each different enemy

dark souls is all about muscle memory and pattern memorization. it is basically chess with swords and monsters.
enemies will always spawn in certain locations, react to certain stimuli, attack in the same ways, and drop the same things. you're no hardcore gamer if you beat dark souls, after two or three playthroughs it becomes as easy as breathing.

>>714958413
i have like 900 hours on ds2 and i still can't parry reliably. meanwhile in ds1 i can go without a shield altogether and parry with the back of my hand

Elden Ring is casual trash, with the most pointless, the most poorly designed "open world" I've ever seen.

And every single Soulslop after Demon's Souls has made the experience worse.

>>714958540
My most recent playthrough of ds1 i parried my way through anor londo silver knights

It was so easy, i used to have problems with them having a good amount of poise but now that doesn't matter at all

>>714958918
Hating popular things doesn't make you cool

>>714955038 (OP)
someone explain to me how is elden ring better than ds1 if i've only played ds1 and ds2

It wasn't slopified yet, the slopification began with the DLC and culminated with Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3. DS3 was the point of no return, but as soon as DS1 exploded and they realized they could market it as the "HARD GAME FOR HARDCORE GAMERS" it was over.
No one was impressed by Dark Souls and Demon's Souls for their combat, the games were recognized for other reasons. It's really a shame how commercial success destroys creative freedom rather than enhancing it.

>>714959047
>I only like "popular", new things! :^)
t. (You)

>>714955038 (OP)
Dark souls was made for teen meanwhile eldenring was exclusively made for hardcore men, Miyazaki said that darksoul1 was just a game they made for mass appeal but eldenring was a passion project made for ultra hardcore men

>>714959238
ds1 is so good because it's bad, it's unique, it's liberal with design, it's unbalanced, it's bullshit, it's vague

>>714957469
Eldenring won the game of the century award though

>>714955038 (OP)
elden ring isn't more difficult you just waste more time letting the spazzy boss do their 15 hit combo that you roll into to abuse clunky i-frames
they should have made it more like sekiro

>>714959756
cause it is.

>>714959238
The tagline for ds1 was "prepare to die" you fucking retarded ape

It was demon's souls that started it, it became an immediate cult classic because it was harder than most ps3 games at the time so dark souls was made to coast off that hype

>>714959047
with no hint of hipster/irony pilled garbage I can say I genuinely enjoy elden ring less than any fromsoft game I have played
the open world left me annoyed because you'd go exploring and find nothing half the time
the bosses have spazzy attack patterns
everything in it is a huge step back from sekiro and ac6

DS1 is annoying.

>>714959848
That was the 2012 Windows edition you fucking mongoloid nigger, and Demon's Souls was nowhere near as popular as Dark Souls was.

>>714960029
Because it was a ps3 exclusive you drooling mongoloid, they realised they had lightning in a bottle with demon's souls but sony owned the IP so they made dark souls which fromsoft has openly said is a successor to demon's souls

>>714960029
So Demon's Souls started the slopification process? Compared to what? King's Field? Shut the fuck up, DS isn't slopified at all before the DLC you goddamn retard, no bullshit about their presumed intentions nor your headcanon will change that

>>714955038 (OP)
The level / map design is amazing. The bosses are easy as shit. The game is clunky as fuck, sometimes in a very annoying way. Second half isn't as good as the first one. Anor Londo looks unfinished and ugly.

wow what a great game, pump cuck!

>>714961526
>The level / map design is amazing.
it's the only metroidvania feature (unless your definition is vague and you also count respawning enemies, etc.) it's got and it's the only good part of DS because it's the only thing they copy pasted from good developers

>>714961620
you may make fun of this but overcoming fear of facing the guards was one of the coolest moments for me. now if you do that with recent games, they will spaz out and hit you in 180 degrees

>>714959848
>>714959238
The issue is that the newer games have nothing going for them aside from the muh difficulty meme. No metroidvania features, no exploration, nothing. You either roll, poke and estus (rolucc, pokeucc, estucc to healucc and protecc) or you cheese the game by abusing the bugs and builds

Shit game from lazy shitty devs

>>714961812
They're all degrees of FOMO held together by muh difficulty advertising now looking back at it.

>>714955038 (OP)
Well yeah, you don’t have as many enemies jumping and flailing all over the place to try and attack you

Easier doesn't mean worse
I enjoyed ER but it's spastic and eventually boring shit with an uninteresting world compared to DS, and you can just turn off the difficulty if you want with the tools they give you.

>>714961904
>FOMO
this, they're best described as having the genre of FOMO (not metroidvania)

>>714955038 (OP)
In the same way that a 5-star fine dining seems "too soft" to chew for you after consuming broken glass shards your entire life. Once you're already a barbaric animal, the genius of man's masterpieces is lost upon you.

>>714962065
Miyazaki invented the FOMO genre.

>>714961724
In ds3 the lothric knights have that backhand shield bash that has like a 270 degree hit angle if you go for a backstab. Its bullshit

>>714955038 (OP)
Dark Souls 1 is actually a really easy game even when it came out. You can very casually do SL1 runs.

>>714955038 (OP)
Based take. Everything before ER is just awful.

believe it or not but this was the hardest action combat game 99% of people had ever played at the time of its release. dark souls is eternal evidence that the average gamer has just gotten better at video games. the vast majority of people who would have struggled with dark souls in 2011 would smash that game today without any video guides whatsoever

I do see why people cry about the Mimic Tear
If you take away the seizure bosses, Elden Ring has nothing to praise aside from Ranni's doll pussy.

>>714962269
ER is awful itself too.

>>714962158
yeah pretty much, the days of dark souls git gud board culture are gone with the new wave of FOMO plagued casuals that don't really like the game but it was popular so they bought it.

>>714962297
Dark Souls is harder than any DMC game on the available difficulties before beating the game
I'd say only ninja gaiden is harder on normal

>>714959010
>i parried my way through anor londo silver knights
if anything it's the easiest way to deal with them by far, they telegraph almost all their attacks

>>714962471
parrying is way more lenient in cuck souls 1

>>714962385
I think culturally it took off because it didn't have a difficulty option and the combat was rather simple on its own. It was just the game, and you could either dig through gamefaqs or whatever to find the cheesiest strats or unironically just git gud and learn how to game the AI. There weren't wikis and step by step videos with no-hit guide runs on youtube by well-renown dark souls youtube autists with le trustable guides stamped and approved by the appropriate youtuber at that point, people still sorta had to mostly figure out video games by themselves. There are other reasons for why it was more popular and known for its difficulty than something like NG or DMC but that's just a few, I could go on.

>>714962740
It's also a lot more useless, most bosses can be parried in Elden Ring but only Gwyn can be parried in Dark Souls. Most regular enemies die too quickly that a party isn't beneficial

>>714961620
>they meticulously modelled the enemy's hitbox around the enemy's character model
Holy soul. Only old games bothered to do this back then.

>>714962907
ds2 and 3 did this and i'm pretty sure elden ring also does this

>>714962907
it was common back then
so much tech is "lost" out of laziness now that I think about it

>>714963090
modern games are made by soulless formulaic useless retards who are only creating video games from an npc consumer standpoint. once you realize this it all makes sense why so many small things about them have completely disappeared, or why these new game devs struggle with concepts that were figured out 20 years ago.

>>714955038 (OP)
this is 2010 game come on

>>714957159
>food analogy

>>714963265
yeah I know that, the tech industry has been destroyed beyond repair by masses of gossipy normgroids and their psychopathic corporate masters. And not the good kind of psychopath (like john carmack)

>>714955038 (OP)
I played it for the first after I played elden ring and its so easy and so short bro there's barely any room for creativity and there's no reason to explore because all you'll find is some trash ass item and maybe a new weapon idk why milenials glaze this shit so much

>>714962961
Pretty sure they don't respect hitboxes.

>>714963265
Isn't Elden Ring or any soulsborne considered modern slop to you /v/ermin?

>>714961724
>I want the AI to commit to every attack without adjusting to my movements so I can just walk around him without having to rely on my old man reflexes

>>714962742
yeah i think the souls hate is just /v/ being contrarian. I had a lot of fun playing dark souls 1-3. If anything Elden Ring is overrated because it did nothing to fix the problems with Dark Souls' formula that were addressed in Sekiro.

>>714963474
those omnomnomnom grab attacks are so fucking anime tier stupid
it's even more stupid when they don't kill you
the monster chews on your skull for 99% of your hp and then gently places you down for no fucking reason
mental illness and cuckity cuck cuckcuck cuckoldry

>>714964062
only das1 is worth playing

>>714963474
Fixed now though, it was bugs causing hitboxes to trail a little behind the player as oppsed to the hitbox itself being bad

>>714958540
Every game after ds1 fucked up the parry windows massively by artificially delaying the initial frames to make it non intuitive. Ds2 and 3 have the absolute worst windows. Elden ring parries are pretty close to ds1 all things considered, but the enemies are spastic over tuned fags sp it doesn't matter really

>>714955038 (OP)
Why would I play Elden Ring?

>>714955038 (OP)
Playing dark souls and the bosses arent really hard.
I was confused if i just beat the easiest bosses because everyone told me how brutal and difficult the game was.

>>714972096
I hate how normies put on this stigma of a hard game instead of thinking that they were just bad the entire time.

>>714955038 (OP)
Serious question, have any of you played actually challenging games like e.g. Cuphead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CWAxbBOLM

Souls games are 95% knowledge checks. Once you know where all the items are, the games are trivial. And boss patterns are pretty basic too, especially in older games.

In Cuphead you die in 3 hits, you can't heal, bosses have 3-5 phases.

>>714972554
Cuphead is pattern recognition down to the simplest level. At least you don't have to annoyingly grind.

>>714972096
The game doesn't explain anything, there's virtually no tutorial, you only know wtf is weapon scaling, equip weight, light/heavy rolls etc because you've already played the later games. There's even shit like Firekeeper Souls saying "improves Estus healing" in the description, so you use the souls lmao and nothing happens because you're actually supposed to give these to an NPC, but how tf would you know without guides?

But yeah, actual reflexes wise, it's a rather easy game, assuming your build is not fatrolling and you have at least 5 flasks.

>>714972554
It's a more relaxing game since there's no bullshit stats.

>>714955038 (OP)
All my homies prefer DS1

>>714972554
cuphead has piles of pattern recognition and gotchas
if you want challenge that cant just be memorized its the very lategame of pic related. Prime bosses fall prey to it, but gauntlets like P-2 or the final boss of 1-E are practically impossible to "just memorize" unless you discover a hyper specific cheese method

>>714955038 (OP)
>Tryhard fagging opening post

>>714973758
who is this cute broad

>>714957003
this

>>714963474
lack of ADPT