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Why did it die?
>>714959759 (OP)No prize pool, no excitement.
It all started when I picked Morphling, bought wards and then proceeded to type
>me jungle
in a ranked 5.5k MMR match
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it's actually surprisingly alive, it just gets zero attention as an e-sport compared to 10 years ago
>>714959759 (OP)its playerbase went to war with eachother irl
Once you learn all the heroes by studying replays there's nothing else to do except autistically grind imaginary points. Was very fun while it lasted.
>>714959759 (OP)>>714959827How the fuck is 300-550k players dead when only 5 games get above 50k?
why the fuck is it 60GB, it's a fucking isometric game with 1 map. Loading all the bullshit mtx skins should be optional
>>714959921this whole thread is a mentally ill player lashing out, it always happens they have no concept what a dead game actually is, they just cant accept that Dota isnt as popular as it was 10 years ago.
>>714959827because tastes has changed and Dota isn't really getting any new players, kids don't want to play a super complicated game with matches that lasts an hour, they'd rather go play marvel rivals with hecking jeff the shark that lasts 10min max or fortnite.
Dota would probably get more attention if it just sold it soul like every other game and add collab shit no one asked for.
>>714960050nigga not once have i ever heard once about someone complaining about this. i don't know what to say
>>714959759 (OP)Too many skins and particle effects made thirdies unable to play with their shit PCs, for fucks sake the game right now is like 100gig.
Also mods that remove said skins and particle effects get deleted at the speed of light.
>>714960132I'm something of a trend setter, you'll see this opinion everywhere now
>>714959759 (OP)I still haven't played it. Should I?
>>714960390no, the first 100 hours are dogshit and you'll be harassed for being trash, then there's a short golden zone of you having fun and then the next several hundred hours you'll rage at the screen because some retard is undermining your whole team
>>714959759 (OP)Because
1. Game is too fucking long (not necessarily makes the game bad, just makes it less appealing to people who has less time on their hands)
2. No advertisement from Valve
3. Pros don't make any effort to stream or make content, fucking leeches just takes all the prizepools and vanishes
4. 1 new hero per year
5. The most retarded ladder I've seen in a video game
6. Pandering to china back in 2016-2019
>>714959827chinks and russians are not people
Visually the game is just "Messy".
UI and the way everything looks needs an overhaul.
>>714959759 (OP)>men express desire>company gives morality and even if true, repels everyone else>men leavehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6GFVgoxfI
I don't know but my experience with Dota was I played one game, 10 minutes in my teammates were telling I was leveling up the wrong skills and buying the wrong items which prompted them to insult my entire existence and past lineage and then I never played Dota 2 again.
>>714960629Source 1 had great visual clarity. Source2 made everything blurry and had thrice the amount of bloom
>>714960780They were based, a dota game lasts about 40 minutes on average, You were wasting their time by being bad at the game.
>>714960429>>714960390The new player experience is awful. You're thrown into matches with other players that have over 2000h on the game. Not only that they make it their life's mission to trash talk you and tell how you should NOT play Dota. Fuck them. Let the game die.
>>714960390You missed the golden opportunity period where everyone was also learning how to play dota, if you start now you will be playing with autists with 8000 hours in the game. Even a god rts gamer barely made it to the highest ranks and that was with coaching from pros.
>>714959759 (OP)they removed remote mines
Dotard died with techies
FACT
>>714959759 (OP)Lol the greatest game that has touched this earth will not die so easily its just dead in NA sadly because the avg na players isnt smart enough to play the game
>>714960390of course you should play it you will not ever play another game like it
>>714960132The ability to disable cosmetics was something people asked for since their inception, as it was rightly feared that cosmetics would break up colors and outlines enough to hamper quick glance identification. This became a big dea, but from a different angle, when they introduced map skins that made it easier to see things because of different trees, giving a slight advantage.
>>714960780>>714960903ranked matchmaking was a mistake. If tryhards want to optimize their fun they should fuck off to dedicated discords and set up closed lobbies
>>714959759 (OP)>OP with false premise>anons gobble it up like the retards they arethis format never fails
icefrog got bored of working on it and most of the team is on deadlock now, plus crownfall got dragged out from 5 months to 10 so they don't have a summer event this year
>>714959759 (OP)I have over 7000 hours and I regret every fucking second
Never installing it again for real this time, filtering out all dota 2 related videos as well (RIP Jenkins)
>play dota
>locked into 40+ minute game
>game is blatantly lost because teammate is retarded
>honestly surprised they can breathe
>cant surrender, locked in for another 30 minutes
this is why i quit years ago. the game is not fun when you have 4 competent people and 1 retard every time.
It's gotten so bad Dendi swapped to League
>loonix users literally can't jump to league
kek
>>714959759 (OP)TI4 and the subsequent overreaction by the devs turned the game into LoL 2: electric boogaloo
It's just never been the same since
Smite sisters... we are FORGOTTEN
>>714963742Isn't it Smite 2 now?
Icefraud turned the game into a broolfest and then fucked off to make another broolfest game
>>714960610Correct, they are Gods for having a good taste.
Even grubby moved to league
it's never been so over bros....
>>714964098League is dead
>>714964217then dotards is deader
MMR and ranked sucked all the fun out of the game
>>714962531dendi was always grossly overrated
>>714963742they killed their own game when they revealed they would not transfer your purchase from smite 1 to smite 2, but give you "discount money" that can only be used to purchase up to 50% on a skin.
>have biggest esport tournament ever
>due to said tournament having giant prize pool (~20 millions)
>release best compendium ever with fanservice and tons of cool looking sets
>40mil prizepool
>reddit and pros start bitching that "if team won't qualify for ti it will disband, we need more tournaments with more fairly distributed prize pool
>do that
>no hype for ti
>no cool skins for players
>league of legends worlds became more popular by doing nothing
Retards
>>714960050>Loading all the bullshit mtx skins should be optionalDidn't they ban a mod that turned all the cosmetic skins off? I'll admit that I might be turning more retarded as I get older, but for heroes with the skins that change the colours and add all the glowing shit I do feel as though it has greatly reduced the 'glance value' of certain heroes.
AHEM
Memeback
Save items
Rich supports
Neutral items
Bounty runes, xp tomes/shrines/etc
Free TP spots in jungles
Doubled jungle creep camps
Retarded jungle geometry, tree locations and designated warding spots
Reddit hero/item reworks like Lich, Techies and Orchid
Reddit whiner changes like cleave becoming physical instead of pure damage because a Kunkka with multiple rapiers oneshotted a carry in a pro game once
And maybe most importantly
GIGA POWERCREEP OUT OF THE MOTHER FUCKING ASS
Like how the fuck do you defend something like Ursa who went from "ult is % of his health in extra damage" to "ULT DOES BILLION DAMAGE, TURNS HIM IMMUNE TO ALL DAMAGE, IMMUNE TO DEBUFFS, SLAM IS A FREE SPAMMABLE LE EPIC GAP CLOSER LEAP AND IT ALSO PROCS MORE OF HIS ULT FOR FREE" and that's just a single example of the endless sea of retarded shit.
Basically dota created it's arch nemesis with league, that cannibalized dota's players and new players
>league is miles easier mechanically
>all the heroes are samey so it's also easy to learn new heroes as a lot of it translates
>league actually panders to the player's dick, dota added a ton of silly shit for every hero but nooo, no bikinis that would break immersion!
>Lower entry barrier means more casuals means you can play with your retard friends
Basically that's it
>check out my local tracks youtube channel
>it REGULARLY get's 200k-300k viewers on their daily streams
wtf
>>714965815for real, I remember that I didn't even play the game and yet TI was THE gaming event of the year. I would absolutely tune in to watch, especially when the commentators were good at explaining wtf was happening
>>714965815reddit chads win again!
>>714965815you fags get the largest pot at the saudi event instead who cares
>>714965815>I NEED TO GET PAID MILLION IN DOLLARS TO PLAY THIS BIDEOGAME!!11i never got pro gamers any numbered immortal player is on their level
I have roughly 1500 hours in this game. I mostly play private games with 4 friends and bots.
>>714959759 (OP)valve killed TI and Battle Pass to push deadlock which is a dead game now that the honeymoon is over
>>714966543IT'S NOT LE SAME
>>714966076the game is so much worse it's insane. there unironically needs to be a dota 2 classic for it to come back.
>>714966717they killed TI battlepass in 2022, nothing to do with deadcock
>>714966835there is idk if people still play it it's been years since i heard about the project
>>714965380The only good smite 2 content was the devs being terrified of Deadlock
>>714959759 (OP)feature creep
game is a clusterfuck of different systems now, very annoying to pick up for new players and probably alienating for old players
>>714959759 (OP)it never was better than league
>>714959759 (OP)Game went to shit once they killed WC3 dota.
It barely plays like dota anymore with most reddit character designs imaginable.
Also those niggers ruined Skelly boi and then made a 30buckaroos cosmetic to revert him back
>>714967975>30 buckslol
lmao
>>714959759 (OP)The playerbase grew up and quit while there's no new blood.
Dota used to be the #1 game in SEA, but we all now play Mobile Legends and gacha instead.
>>714966835>dota 2 classicSome retarded clown made that years ago but IT WAS SET IN THE MEMEBACK PATCH LMAO, that's what the modern dota audience considers "dota classic"
>>714959759 (OP)It is ridiculous to think everyone would keep playing the same game forever.
Enjoyed the highs and lows of playing, but had my fill and moved on.
>>714960980The game is old at this point. If autists are still playing they'd be easily at 15k+ hours by now. I quit years ago at around 7k hours and I wasn't even that dedicated of a player.
>>714959759 (OP)no region lock so I'm forced to play with ruskies, hues and other browns
>>714959921retards have been crying about the 7.0 patch adding new items for 8 years now
>nooo the game was better when supports were lucky to have 1 item by 40 minutes and your inventory was constantly full of consumable items
>>714968914jungle pudge won a tournament game recently
>>714969212It is the nature of a pvp game to learn, but learning that it is not okay for to have only brown boots and a force staff at 30 minutes as a support is a sad revelation.
The game was really fun when I was bad at it and we did literally whatever the fuck we wanted.
>>714960429>the first 100 hours are dogshit and you'll be harassed for being trashAs you should for selfishly ruining the game for 9 other people if you decide to jump right into PvP without bothering to learn the game first.
>>714970286it's more like after you play a few games the game coordinator will realize you are dogshit so it will put you in low mmr matches with retards that have 1000 hours blaming you for them losing
>>714964251Steam doesn't fake or manipulate player numbers unlike riot though. League counts the people playing their auto battler as playing league + they have a couple of big name steamers on retainer to fake interest in the game, and you cant discount the bots.
>>714960390no, hop on deadlock, it's still pretty early
>>714972769the bird is cool
>>714960390Do you have four friends that can swear to give you 4 hours minimum /week to play matches?
No? Then you will not have a good time.
Dota2 is one of the greatest games ever made hampered by needing a full team or it's dogshit because Brazilian and Russians cannot play with any skill or thought and you WILL get them on your team
The game runs like absolute trash now
It was using 6 FUCKING GIGABYTES OF RAM during a replay
Fuck the devs. They kept saying they optimized the game... yeah that's true, in the motherfucking menu
Who gives a FUCK about good performance in the menu
Yeah I really need 200+ fps while looking at the shitty fucking cosmetics
Meanwhile I get 50 fps in teamfights with an i7-4770
>haha le 10+ year old cpu
Bitch this game used to fucking run fine on a fucking CORE 2 QUAD not even 3 years ago, it's even in the minimum requirements
The bigger map killed all optimized of this game and I had to upgrade to this i7
Now even 8GB of RAM is not enough, I get stutters up the ass with that and even 12gb is barely enough
I should not need some new ass pc to play fucking Dota 2 of all things
>>714972769>generic thot>funny bird manI look a lol porno and play dota
What wacky place are they going to move Roshan to next?
>>714974292he won't get moved again outside of minor adjustments
>>714972562It was fun when I tried it but there is too much that is blatantly unfinished right now. By the end of last year they were frantically A/B testing and drastically changing things around before the population fully died off. And now they have some super sekrit build on top of the already closed alpha that only the big ecelebs and top players have access to. I'll just wait for it to actually release, but I don't know if the target audience will still be there by the time it does.
>>714960390Only if you have four other guys and you are all on the same wavelenght about how to play (either all tryhards or all fuck around doing funny shit) otherwise it's just miserable.
I miss my stack...
>>714975229Having a full stack is just asking to play against cheaters and smurfs, playing alone or with one or two friends is the optimal way
>>714973831I also noticed a drop in performance since the new map dropped, even loading times were longer before they patched it
>last played like 5+ years ago
>check the most recent map out of curiosity
>2 rosh pits
>three rivers
>random high ground with staircases in the corner of the map
what the fuck happened to this game lmao
>>714976085It got better, i bet you would miss fountain bottle refills too
>>714976202Bottle is a worthless item nowadays, it's only a storage unit for the rune now
>>714979006Still essential for specific heroes
>>714959921Because itโs fucking dota like no joke 95% is some form of: third worlder account seller, third worlder item seller, third worlder normal player, or bot ran by a third worlder
You try to find functional teammates and itโs a ghost town
>>714966321Fun fact they also kicked out the best commentators for some unsubstantiated #metoo shit
Dota needs a massive de-powercreep patch for every hero. It's getting insane.
I got warned last time for posting that image of Dark Willow's ass so pretend it's here.
>>714968914Unironically stopped playing when big addy n0friends won a ti I knew the game was cooked
Leaguechads keep on winning
>>714967881Basically this
I used to be incredibly invested from around TI2 to TI5 times, then I took a bit of a break, came back and had to learn the whole game all over again and then some
It's basically the polar opposite of the direction that League took, which was financially a much smarter choice by Riot
>>714980640No one that is playing Dota right now would ever go back to old Dota, if they say they want to they are lying, especially if they usually play support