Why medieval melee slasher genre so cursed

fanbase is always full of handicapped retards who do nothing but screech about politics in chat while trying to constantly find the buggies piece of shit meta they can use to cheese every single encounter and when they lose, they usually tend to just throw the whole match and grief the whole team into constantly losing and dying while aiding the enemy at every chance they get (that is if they're unable to stack switch to the winning team halfway through the match though)

>>714973196 (OP)
Funny, I just got back into this game after years of not playing. It's still fun as fuck but the lvl 1000 guys feel like I have to fight a final boss every 3 minutes, thankfully it's easy to spot them. I wish there were more populated objective servers.

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>>714973664
It's both immensely satisfying and disappointing to get good enough at the game to stomp and realize that's a major reason why people don't stick with the game. I don't have any clue around it. I think the solutiom really is just a big enough player base so old players can match with old, and new with new. At least playing as an objective based Engi is a unique playstyle regardless of typical skill. I highly recommend that.

>>714973196 (OP)
chiv 2 in particular always suffered from imbalanced maps and team stacking, I don't know why the ability to choose and change your side even exists

>>714973561
this. dogshit fanbase, and the developers of these games are always dogshit too. chivalry devs refused to fix th back breaking ballerina shit, and mordhau devs refused to add new maps and tried to focus on the .5% of players in the 1v1 comp crowd for some reason.

>>714978385
>for some reason
it's because the main devs of mordhau, Crush, was a huge compfag ever since the days of old chivalry and wanted mordhau to actually be specifically meant as a game for that exact types of retards that he was who wanted everything to be finetuned for 1v1 competitive fights instead of the fun, big battle casual modes. but here's the funny thing. despite being a compfag, Crush, is absolutely fucking dogshit at the game, and a lot of the later on nerfs and balancing games were purely based on him not "feeling it" when using certain weapons and getting his head caved in over and over again by actual compfags who mastered the gameplay, the very same gameplay he helped design yet he's still shit at. it's unbelievable but it's true.

>>714973196 (OP)
The first game was absolute soul
>Play Chivalry
>Teamkill on ballista
>Ballista doesn't register team damage %
>Don't get votekicked since no proof of team damage
>Keep teamkilling, keep getting voted
>Eventually get kicked by mod

>>714973664
>>714976886
There's still a great mix of all skill levels in official servers. It feels like the pre skill-based-matchmaking times, where you'll have total noobs and masters playing in the same game.
For new players, I would recommend messing in the 64-man battles, don't be afraid to fight anyone, catch cheap kills, get ass-blasted by sweaties, do whatever feels fun.
When you get familiar with controls and want to actually git gud, go into the duel servers and grind your teeth against good players in a proper fight.

>>714979134
This is straight propaganda, chiv 1 was a ballet, but chiv 2 locks the camera during the release period of a swing, meaning you literally can't twirl.

>>714979379
GON' GIVE IT TO YA

>>714973196 (OP)
thoughts? it looks like Mordhau minus the sillyness

>>714979985
My first time seeing this. Dark fantasy in this genre sounds like a great idea, I've been wanting something official since playing Warband mods back in the day. The animations look nice, if a bit slow. The hitstop looks annoying but it's absent in some parts of the trailer. Guns look gimmicky. It looks like different body types are a possibility which sounds great.
>pvp options are 5v5 or 10v10
>skill cringe matchmaking
this killed my excitement but I'll still buy it day 1 for the month of fun it'll provide

>>714979985
I'm not keen on its dark fantasy theme that will probably serve no purpose past the surface, but we'll see.
>It doesn't even have a release date or anything
Anon, what am I supposed to do with this? I might as well have not even known it exists

No room left in heck 2 is fun, same dev I think.
Wish there were more levels tho
I enjoyed chivalry 2 but casually, using what looks fun/cool and never bothering to learn deeper mechanics like morphs feint etc

>>714978385
Chiv2 could not have nerfed spinning harder than they did without turning the game into a turn based RPG

literally all anyone has to do is combine:

chivarly combat
+
foxhole style persistent world/multiplayer

this cant be that hard can it?

>>714982196
what if
>chivalry combat
>mount and blade overworld
didnt someone make a mod for a M&B MMO? you could have the battle scale and army management and PvE of MB and the relatively more casual combat of chivalry

medievalbros... we're so back

>>714973561
>screech about politics
dunno if it's same on us servers but in euro there is 50% chance there will be turkroach or othere mudslime bitching about jews

>>714982196
Foxhole is euro autism. Id rather just get bigger and bigger player sizes than persistant war gimmicks.

>>714984836
i started shitting on allah on a EU server when i saw the chat was filled of retards fellaating islam for whatever reason and then i immediately got votekicks called against me and i kept being griefed so what i did was basically just make them lose the match by constantly team killing them with the catapult while they were objective since they reached their limit for 2 calls for votekick allowed per match. what a disgusting thing to have to behold and realize you have muslims spreading their dogshit around on EU servers.

>>714979985
>Ad Mortem

>>714973196 (OP)
Lack of Balance patches, Greatswords, Messer and Dane Axe is fucking cancers that plagued Chiv 2

>>714985956
Dane Axe is OP but its really not that much more powerful that any other weapon you could use

What, no mention of Chiv 2 releasing on a non Steam store first?
It allowed the most dedicated players to get way too good before the general population started playing.

I got 1000 hours in chiv 2, I find it a fun mindless game to play wish there were more like it.

>>714988824
i put 1800 hours in chiv 1 but torn banner refused to fix long standing easy to fix bugs and issues in the game so I shrimply never bought chiv 2

>>714984505
HalfSword is fun as fuck
>why do I need a bevo-ACK

>>714978385
>mordhau devs refused to add new maps and tried to focus on the .5% of players in the 1v1 comp crowd for some reason
>>714978752
>the crush thing
they didn't give a fuck about comp fags. crush actually openly hated on comp fags. the whole crushed thing is skewed. mordhau was initially meant to be for comp chiv players but they tried to pivot into making it for casuals early on which caused a bunch of problems.

>>714982196
foxhole devs are literally doing that right now

Mordhau at launch was the peak of the genre.

>>714991719
>3rd person
and just like that into the trash it goes

>>714994448
I wish we could go back to that first month where it was just 2 blobs of people running at each other. Good times

>>714981882
but they launched the game egs exclusive, which killed the game before anyone even got to play it

>>714973196 (OP)
it's really heavily skill based. this is a fun niche for enthusiasts and i wouldn't see it changed but most other people don't enjoy getting 360 no scope over the shoulder decapitated in half a frame. if they want this general game type to take off and ' go maintstream', they'd need mainstream mechanics like abilities, ultimates, strongly defined classes, catch-up mechanics, regular content updates, and a lengthy progression/talent system. before you pounce on me, i'm not saying i want these things, i'm saying that's where the competitive multiplayer market is at. you just won't retain that many players if the game is all about pure expressions of 1v1 skill.

I still have fun playing chiv 2
The tryhards just end up looking like retards that can survive 5 seconds longer when outnumbered while everyone else has fun in the meat grinder

>>714976886
>>714973196 (OP)
The solution is to not make it a dueling game, but an actual team game. Formations, fighting next to your buddies, that kind of thing.
If it's a dueler then good players WILL stomp entire teams on their own and people WILL stop playing because of that

>>714973196 (OP)
Compfags will ALWAYS try to push their meta and pubstomp the playerbase into the dirt.
At least in chiv2 a sweatlord can be gangbanged, whereas in mordhau they would regularly get 80 kills for MAYBE two deaths a game.

>>714998509
Dont forget how they got shields and anything ranged nerfed because they would die to it ever so slightly more

>>714973196 (OP)
>Mountain Blade is fun
>Try-hards ruin it
>Chivalry is fun
>Try-hards ruin it
>Mordhau is fun
>Try-hards ruin it
Just play the games a normal amount, why the fuck do you have to dedicate your life to one non-competitive game and break the mechanics? Congrats, you became the top dog in a dead game that was designed to be mindless fun.

>>714973196 (OP)
Because devs always leave in overpowered shit for super-sweats. Just make it a casual fun game like TF2, it's not hard.

>>714999795
>tf2
>casual
lmao, anyone who still plays the game knows the game is anything but casual

>>714984505
It's a cool game, but I hate playing with full plate armor. Also, it seems like they haven't figured out what to do with the game yet in terms of modes, so I foresee it entering dev hell

>>714999901
the 2-4 giga spergs in every server would make tryhards of the previous decades look like timmies but the game is still flooded with some of the dumbest mother fuckers in gaming

>>714999209
ranged nerf sucked but shields were absolute cancer at release

>>714994242
>chivarly combat
Not even remotely close, the combat is very basic if you look at the in-development videos

>>715001792
yeah i misread that, there is a game called Renown coming out hopefully this year that might be what you're looking for