What opinion do you hold that is absolutely and objectively correct on a videogame that 99% of /v/ will disagree with?

I’m not talking about:
>akshually, le popular thing is le bad!
I’m specifically talking about:
>I played this game and everyone who hates/loves it doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

>>I played this game and everyone who hates/loves it doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Nothing, I'm not arrogant enough to seriously think something like that.

>>714989046 (OP)
Nothing special but mine are

Ac3 is actually a good (assassins creed) game.

and

GTA3 is better than vice city

>>714989046 (OP)
the internet ruined video games

rockstar has never made a good game

>>714989286
please, I know for a fact you’ve seen /v/ mock something you’ve actually experienced and know they’re full of shit

>>714989046 (OP)
The Stop Killing Games initiative is Dunning-Kruger fueled retardation.

Dark Souls getting ultra popular is the best thing that could have happened to the vidya industry and souls clones are superior to CoD clones

>>714989046 (OP)
>Old good
>New bad
This tends to rile up NPCs.

>>714989428
I felt like there was a very compelling story hidden deep inside AC3 but its obfuscated by nearly every other line of dialogue feeling like it was written by different people and all the trappings of being an AAA budget theme park.

>>714989046 (OP)
I know for a fact that, at least, 90% of people that hate fighting games are not able to play them because of a intelligence deficit.

>>714989046 (OP)
zelda games are universally garbage made for actual toddlers, and their prevalence on "le heckin' best games EVER" lists is exclusively due to the legions of devlopmentally stunted manchildren who play them.

People on /v/ who obsess over framerate and resolution refuse to admit that they make up an incredibly small portion of the gaming public, who don't care as long as a game is fun.

>>714989046 (OP)
>I played this game and everyone who hates/loves it doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
I've played Valkyria Chronicles 2 and the "Highschool" parts that people bitch about take maybe 1/4th of the game at worst, save for the optional content.
The "Highschool" itself is actually a military academy and it's students are forced to fight against a rebel army.
The game is at it's core still about war, racism, genocides and human experiments even if it's somewhat less serious than it's predecessor.
It may not be as good as the others but it's still a pretty good game.

>>714991589
This mainly because it got people looking at art direction and environmental storytelling versus the plague of movie games at the time where nothing mattered other than the script

>>714989046 (OP)
Resident Evil 6 is not only a good game but a good Resident Evil game
>but the story is bad
Nigga who gives a good goddamn fuck about story in Resident Evil, I want to see dudes fighting giant meat monsters.

>>714989046 (OP)
video games required a decade of declining quality to make people appreciate what they had before, and what can still be had in the future

>>714989046 (OP)
>Elden ring's best part was exploration on your first playthrough, it's just majestic and unlike anything else, wondering around in this epic

>Action shooters died for a reason (titan fall and bullet storm etc) they were just "walk in a line and click on heads"

>Woke is fine if it's done well
>Most people don't care about the woke beyond the looks of the women in game

>Imsims are because of supply and demand

>Corporations are not detrimental to art than wome

>>714993036
More detrimental*

>>714992563
meh, just the fact that all japanese games having high schoolers as main casts makes me sick of them.

Fallout 76 is a good video game now
Sure all of the controversy at launch was rightfully deserved but deep down all of you know that it's a good game now

1v1 action games are not very entertaining. This includes bosses.

>>714989046 (OP)
Prey 2017 is shit. Take Bioshock, remove every weapon except the wrench, set it in a boring office, and make terrible grindy crafting really, really important, and you have Prey.

Poor people are the reason why ray tracing in games suck

Metro exodus enhanced has rt and high frames

>>714993385
With how much shit went wrong early on in the games life has me honestly believe a rogue dev was trying his little heart out to kill Fallout 76.

When Starfield first came out, I was hesitant to actually play it and considered refunding it, because I nearly fell for /v/‘s outlandish shitposts, but I decided to actually try it out.

In certain aspects, I was very disappointed because it felt inferior to what Bethesda already implemented in their previous games. In other aspects, I was actually blown away, not just by the main quest’s writing and all the quests in general, but also by how genuinely breathtaking the vistas were. I felt so damn immersed when I touched down on a planet, in my own custom ship, it’s like I was literally there on Mars or on our moon.

I also tried the DLC… it was okay, not as good as I hoped it to be. All I keep thinking is that Starfield 2 will be fantastic.

>>714993992
Honestly I can believe that
Also can't forget that Bethesda's team is literally full of DEI workers
Thankfully it's come a long way and turned around

>>714989046 (OP)
There is nothing wrong with having a dissenting opinion, but constantly being contrarian is just as much sheep behavior as being part of the mainstream herd.

>ITT: Your non-conforming vidya opinions
I really like Mass Effect 3 and I think the ending was fine.

>>714989046 (OP)
Not a specific video game but dual analog for FPS was a mistake. Face buttons to move and stick to aim is vastly superior for console FPS.

>>714995727
I get it, but I’m not asking for contrarian opinions, I’m asking for educated opinions that are drowned by the ignorant ones.

Dota is anti fun and Counter Strike is worse
Kojima is a bad writer, a bad executive, and a bad game designer.
GTA is shit and Rockstar has made 1 good game (Midnight Club Street Racing). They are easily the most overrated developer ever.
Super Paper Mario is a great game
Mario 64 is great except for the camera and controls which make it unplayable.
The Horizon games are fun.
DMC3 is the only worthwhile game in the series.
Fallen Order/Survivor is the only good rollslop
Halo Infinite is fun

>>714989046 (OP)
This is everyone telling the crazy Nintendofag who spams "Eric" that he's mentally ill.

>>714996503
>I’m asking for educated opinions that are drowned by the ignorant ones.
Then keep looking, you're not going to find educated opinions here.

The Internet has tricked you into thinking online spaces are somehow representative of what people in the real world think and it has ruined the ability to discuss video games. I am an outlier; when I go to play a video game I check reviews, ask friends if they've played it, looked at videos reviewing the title, etc. For every one of me there are like 20 people who walk into a Gamestop on a Friday night, look around for some box art of a guy holding a gun, and purchase it based on that alone and nothing else. A video game's release date will have a greater effect on lifetime sales of a title than literally every online argument ever had about the game combined.

>>714997694
>when I go to play a video game I check reviews
They're usually negative or mixed for games I'm interested in.
>ask friends if they've played it
None of them ever heard of the games I'm talking about, let alone play them.
>looked at videos reviewing the title
It's either reviewers who think they're comedians or more often literal whos, who have less than 200 views on videos.
After some time, I started skipping these steps entirely and just jumping in entirely blind.
Everyone shits on /v/ but I had more luck discussing obscure games here than anywhere else on the internet.

>>714989046 (OP)
My non-conforming opinion is that everyone on this website is stupid to the point of "shouldn't be heard". Do you think I'm joking? I filtered every image in the thread and got rid of the other posts.

>>714999770
y-you too

>>714999870
Maybe you're right, and I'm not exempt, but I also never make threads. Nobody ever had to get rid of a thread I made, and so I'm not the same as everyone else. Every garbage thread you see on this board was not made by me.

Halo has some of the best lore and worldbuilding of any sci-fi series

>>714997694
You underestimate how much of GenZ spends all of their free time watching youtube essays and tiktok slop. I can literally walk into any themepark and find hundreds of nerdy girls that can recite dark souls and fnaf lore videos

I think The Elder scrolls series is terrible and if it didn't exist we'd be in a much better place gaming wise.

>>715000380
That's a really stupid opinion. Do you know when Skyrim came out? How did the franchise ruin gaming? Skyrim was super casual garbage, but it didn't stop real RPGs coming out afterwards.

>>714996685
>GTA is shit
I feel you, but that's hard to argue objectively when tens of millions enjoy picking up GTA just to run over NPCs and then try to survive the 6 stars police
It's like blue cheese, it smells and tastes like ass but for some reason people love it

>>715000585
Don't get me wrong I love fantasy settings but I think the "It's fun with mods" and a large amount of DLC practices came from the Elder Scrolls series

>>715000585
>but it didn't stop real RPGs coming out afterwards
Oblivion and Mass effect had already killed real RPGs way before. It was only with Kickstarter than true RPG games could make a comeback

>>715000839
>I think the "It's fun with mods" and a large amount of DLC practices came from the Elder Scrolls series

I'm not sure if that's true. I used to play Warcraft 3, and the entire reason everyone loved that game was because of the custom content. Very few people played the game proper, and they played custom maps instead. I don't think Elder Scrolls is to blame. They may have started microtransactions, but you can't blame them for the prevalence of modding. Mods aren't an issue at all, and it's human error if someone plays with 100 mods.
DLC would be the same thing, and it's the fault of people. It wouldn't exist if people didn't pay for it.

>>714993992
>>714994737
yeah, his name was todd howard.
overpromising while demanding they not work "too hard" because thats "scary morrowind darktimes"

>>714989046 (OP)
Some fucktarded faggot triplenigger is going to come in here and say ff13 is good and that nobody gave it a chance
I gave it a chance
It was shit, literally the worst time I've had playing vidya, I was literally falling asleep during battles, the story was horribly presented and was awful overall, ff13 is just the fucking worst

>>715000585
I love Elder Scrolls’ lore, I hate every other fantasy game’s lore. I can tolerate Skyrim’s uber casual gameplay just because I get to read a shit ton of interesting books (even if 80% of them trickled down from Morrowind).

>>715001496
Thank you for telling me. I definitely care how how you feel about Elder Scrolls lore. If you like "lore" so much, then maybe go to /lit/ instead of /v/. I'm filtering this thread now before another NPC replies to me. Really tiresome bullshit. Oh look, there's all these threads that dodged my million filters. That just means I need more.

Graphics matters a lot.
Imagine a fighting game with the best technical gameplay ever but every character and all their moves were just a box.
No one would play that.

>>715000380
>Literally introduced microtransactions
>Trash combat
>Riddled with bugs
>Only way to make the gameplay engaging is by slapping on RPG progression
>Heavily rely on mod support to make the game good
All that forgiven because it's a big open world filled with things to find
I loved Morrowind at the time and had plenty of fun with Oblivion too, but I wish my younger self picked better games. I have no desire to replay those games or pick up any other modern Bethesda game for that matter

>>714989046 (OP)
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance has one of the worst butt rock soundtracks I've ever heard. I stopped playing it because the boss battles were basically ruined by the music

>>714989046 (OP)
Fallout: Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel are both good and canon

>>714989046 (OP)
Stamina is a stupid mechanic and severely lowers the ceiling on how gud you can git

>>714989046 (OP)
/v/ is a great place to discuss video games with fellow enthusiasts of the medium

>>715002453
>t. freak who loves to break games and rushes his playthroughs

>>714989046 (OP)
PC Gaming sucks

>>715002843
No physical games alone ruins PC gaming as a whole, though GOG is alright
We don't even need to go into all the annoying stuff you got to deal like Denuvo or games that won't automatically setup your controller

>>714989046 (OP)
Helldivers 2 has been ruined by casuals, redditor gamerdads and trannies. The game is extremely easy to the point of severe boredom on the highest difficulty. Every single enemy has been nerfed into the ground, every player weapon has been massively buffed, there are still long outstanding bugs that prevent enemy spawns that continue to go unfixed because redditors enjoy a map devoid of things to fight. The game actively discourages co-op play and has been ruined beyond recognition.

>>714989046 (OP)
I played and beat cyberpunk recently and I just think the game is below average. The kind of shit you barely finish just so you can complain about it to your friends. I dont know where this "the game is fixed now you guys" came from when the is just meh at best.

>>715002613
Well, yeah. You can't get good enough to break the game, because your expression of skill is capped.

>>715003895
Some games are better with limitations. There is nothing wrong with stamina systems there is something wrong with you wanting those games to be what they aren't and having trouble accepting that, this goes for most people that complain about video games in general though.

I wanted a Nintendo console that did something different and innovative rather than "the same thing but stronger and a bit bigger" like everyone else. It would have been much more interesting to me than going the Xbox and PlayStation route but even more incremental. I'm saying this here since it's an unpopular view and I've always said I didn't want the Nintendo Switch again but stronger.

>>715004250
>those games
You read that I don't like stamina meters and your interpretation was
>I want to play souls games, but without stamina meters
That's on you.

>>714989046 (OP)
Crysis 2 is better than Crysis 1 in nearly every way, and the incredibly hostile reaction to it back in the day was baffling. Literally all caused by people seeing it's set in the city instead of a jungle and panicking that it's about to become Call of Duty.

>>715004394
No, "those games" refers to games with stamina systems.

>>714989046 (OP)
Graphics absolutely matter, art direction is not more important.

>>715004459
I think it was mostly due to the streamlining of the suit powers. People never really talk about the fact that the suit powers were kind of garbage in 1 though. Outside of Strength being put onto contextual or a weaker version on held button presses, the powers were much better in 2 IMO.

>>715004818
explain your reasoning

>>715002453
Based
So tired of every action game having to be staminaslop now because of Souls

>>715004818
>Graphics absolutely matter
Yes, but in a bell curve where PS2 graphics are peak

>>714989046 (OP)
In coop multiplayer online gaming some people like to complain and it stresses me a lot. I try to be the best in the group so that nobody complains about me.

This is controversial because peaple like to pretend they dont care and shittalk

>>715004864
Graphical fidelity is a major part of advertising games to wide audiences, and players react negatively if a game's graphics are disappointing. Good graphics also ensure more immersion and make it easier to forget you're actually just staring at pixels that shift & merge across the screen.
That is not to say art direction is irrelevant.

>>715005063
FUCK the wide audience

>>715005063
>>715004864

the line between are direction and graphics can be blurred sometimes too, for instance, old MH games had less raw power but I can 100% imagine someone saying MHRise has "worse graphics" than MHRside because that game is ugly as sin, and one of the reasons for it is honestly the graphical fidelity, everything is gray, everything looks plastic-y like your armor sets are coming out of a toy factory, a good art direction needs to have the graphical fidelity working alongside it, and a game that may have limitations in that department needs to take them into account otherwise that's what happens.

Weight and being "overburdened" is a meaningless antifun mechanic that doesn't make your game any more realistic. Never once in my life did I play a game with unlimited inventory and think to myself that I'd really prefer if I couldn't carry all that stuff. (Extremely limited grid based inventories where every single potion is valuable are fine btw)

>>715005063
graphics obviously matter to the masses but for the overall game not really. The older I get the more subjective immersion becomes though. I can appreciate heavily detailed graphics but I don't even get half as immersed as I do in games with older graphics. King's field is still the most immersive game I've played and I played it for the first time 6 years ago.

>>715005714
>is that some challenge in my vidya? AAIIIIIIEEEEEE

>>714989046 (OP)
Wukong was really good, potentially one of the best action games ever for boss fights

>>715005940
Nioh 2 is better

>>715005827
I'm the opposite, old games break my immersion because so many of them were clearly made with CRT in mind, and their graphical issues are an eyesore on modern displays.

Fire Emblem Engage is a fantastic tactical strategy. Why brainless want story over brain-testing strategic thinking in their tactical strategy I will never understand. Don't need characters to be 'engaged' in overcoming fun challenges.

>>715005856
Give 2 examples of a game where the weight limit actually challenged you instead of wasted your time traveling back to town or your house to get rid of stuff just to go back

>>714989046 (OP)
Mega Man fans act like battered housewives when stockholder meetings don't come with surprise game reveals.

>>715006186
>having to plan your trips isn't part of the challenge

>>715006252
I guess for pure dungeon crawlers it works but I can't think of much else.

>>715006064
I'll probably give Nioh 2 a try in a bit, maybe next week. I'm hoping the copy-paste isn't as bad as Nioh 1.

For the last 5 or so years, EA has been one of the most sensible heavy hitters in the western gaming industry. Most of the hatred for their bullshit is leftover from many years ago when Riccitelo and similar kikes ran the company, they've been fairly harmless the last few years when you actually look at their recent history. I mean this unironically.

>>714989046 (OP)
>2077 was always a good game even at launch when it was buggy
>Bioshock Infinite is a good game with dog shit writing that filtered most of /v/ and is on par with all the other Bioshock games
>Every Battlefield game has been a good game with a fun multiplayer experience
>Minecraft was better in alpha and before the hunger bar was introduced , Terraria does all the exploration and combat better
>JRPG's suck ass and are overrated , WRPG's are better in every way
You cannot prove me wrong

>>715006590
Cyberpunk being a good game is subjective, good for you if you liked it. However, it was nowhere near what they promised in marketing over a period of years

>>715006590
>2077 was always a good game even at launch
This has to have a massive asterisk about what platform you were playing it on

>>715006682
Neither was STALKER but then again most /v/iggers weren't old enough to remember. 2077 is a good arpg

>>715006839
PC , with mid specs to I only have a , 2070 and i7 and it worked well on ultra besides some minor glitches

>>715006583
I mean, Microsoft and Embracer taking the mantle of gaming grim reapers surely helped

>>715006583
EA has only done like 3 good things in the last 5 years and 2 of them were related to old command and conquer games but at the same time the only horrible thing they've done is the new dragon age and 2042. So I guess that is better than they were before

>>715006969
PC is fine sure, but I think you'd be hard pressed to get people to agree that Cyberpunk crashing your PS4 constantly was a good game.

>>714989046 (OP)
most boss fights are ass

>>715005856
>>715006252
There's a difference between having a limited inventory where every single item actually matters and you need to think what's more valuable for the next dungeon a health potion or an antidote or whatever; and bethesda slop, where there's no real scarcity, just once in a while you get some nice loot and then need to crawl to fucking sell it.

The Surge is not at all the game its detractors claim it is; they are literally just playing it wrong. If you don't try to play it as if it is Dark Souls, then you'll be fine.
Sure, it's a bit clunky and half-baked in places, you can say that about almost every game, especially games in that genre.

>>715007259
I mean anybody trying to run 2077 on a PS4 got exactly what they should've lmao . The game was in dev hell for ages , no game that goes through that has a good initial release

>>714989046 (OP)
3H and Engage were good

>>714989046 (OP)
For all the unbearable schizo posting the game's threads get, I had fun with Steller Blade, and put the game down even more confused about how it attracted so many schizos.
Some games you just really can't talk about on /v/ I guess.

>>715007861
Bobs sex fuck feminism , God I want a Korean gf so bad bros :(

>>715007861
>Some games you just really can't talk about on /v/ I guess
These days it almost seems like you can’t talk about any at all

Elden Ring is the ugliest game I've ever seen in my life and it's more of an art direction problem than a technical one.

>>715007365
I agree but for FPS games. I've played an insane amount of FPS games and the only ones with enjoyable bosses were titanfall 2 (still has a problem where they're too easy) and ultrakill

>>714989046 (OP)
im not arrogant enough to believe my opinion is objectively correct. but i might as well throw my opinion out into the void. i do not like god of war 3's art direction. while the bleak, desolate, muted colors and architecture work for the game's narrative, it just made every area blend together for me. as much as i love everything else about that game, the art direction knocked it all the way down to 3rd from the bottom in my personal ranking. am i an autist who puts way too much stock into art direction? yes. yes i am.

>>715008024
What makes you say that? Is it how muddy everything tends to look once you leave the specific vista points? I never gave it much thought.

These threads make me realize I'm mentally retarded because I'm pretty sure I think of answers for them and then they come around and I can remember even a single one.

Closest thing to an unpopular opinion I have that comes to mind is that Ass Creed 4 Black Flag is not anywhere as near as good as people think. I REALLY didn't like that game's UI, I felt the UI really took away from the experience. When I played it, it felt to me exactly how it was depicted in the story, which was playing as a guy sitting at his computer playing AC4. It's decent in a lot of ways and I can see how the atmosphere alone could be very appealing but it just didn't strike me as all that great. Lots of graphical elements too that just kind of irritated me, so much to take me out of the experience. The way people rate it, sounds like some kind of purely mechanistic criteria of how well it conforms to open worlds or something. It's not terrible, but the times I played it, I DID NOT get it, and I don't think it was for lack of an understanding of what makes games good. People say it's "the best AC" and I just cannot relate.

>>715007185
>but at the same time the only horrible thing they've done is the new dragon age
With this game they pretty much told Bioware "we're going to be hands off, this is your time to prove you still make good RPGs, good luck" and after Veilguard came out they fired most of the people who made it. So if anything EA's mistake is not being more intrusive and controlling with their studios. Same story with Anthem, literally the only good thing about that game (the flying) came from an EA executive saying "this shit sucks can you at least add flying?"

>>715006590
>play 2077 on launch
>loved it, enjoyed all 100 hours I put into it
>literally can not discuss it anywhere
>lose interest because single player game
>dont watch the anime
>dont play the dlc
>tell everyone they're fair weather cunts and can get fucked everytime it gets brought up
This even happened with my tabletop group, we cut our teeth on 2020 and all they could do was parrot shit they saw on here. Cunts

>>715010683
Yeah, bandwagoning is a real issue. It's literally just CDPR's take on a Deus Ex game and yet /v/iggers piss and shit themselves over 2077 since it wasn't a more elaborate CRPG

>>715005714
Problem with Bethesda weight limits is that they're all over the place and don't make sense. You can carry infinite health potions or stimpacks, but a nice piece of armor weighs 10 steaks.
FO4 is probably the worst, though, since base building encourages you to pick up random junk.

>>715006590
if westoids could make a wrpg that doesn't visually look like total dogshit in an attempt to mimic realism (in a fantasy setting) then maybe I'd actually play them
I don't like how grimderp souls is but it's still far more visually appealing than the entirety of elder scrolls

Series' should stay dormant if nobody capable and interested wants to handle them
Treating IP as something publishers have to constantly "renew" with endless sequels is fucking stupid

Pokemon Sword and Shield are one of my favorite games ever.

>>715011765
>Noooo why doesn't everything look like my animes???
Weeb moment

>>715008024
Same with other souls games. I can't fathom how they sold well with shitty art direction and lacking everything else.

>>714989046 (OP)
>I played this game and everyone who hates/loves it doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
While I dont feel THAT strongly about it, P5R hate is the most retarded contrariannigger shit ever. In the past months I’ve replayed FES and P4G, played Reload, and finally revisited Royal after 3 years; I can confidently say P5R is the strongest Nusona game. It (unfortunately) sacrifices having a more ironclad story like that of its predecessors with having a much more fun gameplay loop which actually feels deserving of the time you invest in it. In a perfect world it wouldnt be a “tradeoff”, but despite its flaws the story is still decent, which goes up into fantastic on Third Semester. No one ever gives it credit for how it innovates on the mainstay concepts established by the previous games to make a unique experience for both newcomers and returners to the franchise, because that would be admitting P5 did something cool and creative. In a perfect world where “popular = bad” wasn’t the mindset of jaded schizos, P5 wouldn’t be shit on nearly as much as it is by Persona “fans”. It’s not popular for no reason

Haru > Kawakami > Hifumi > Takemi > Futaba > Makoto > Chihaya > Ann > Sumire >>> Ohya

>>714993036
>Woke is fine if it's done well

Mine is, its only woke if its not done well.

If something is good, it can have literal men fucking each other onscreen and nobody will care, will call it a new forbidden love story, daring, interesting, bold. It will draw your attention and hold it for the entire runtime.

If its poorly done? Then it has no merits to stand on. No good writing to contextualize, no cool gameplay to captivate. Its just a horned creature talking to mommy about how they're trans. The only thing left is to try to attract people because of the subjects it approaches.

Which, because its poorly made, it will do it poorly. This is woke. The idea that a daring leftist subject is more important than the fucking fundamentals of storytelling we've been honing from before we walked upright.

>>714989046 (OP)
>akshually, le popular thing is le bad
Souls was never good and was propped up by reactionaries mad about CoD.

Outer Wilds is NOT reddit and actually a very pure piece of artistic expression in the vidya space. Reddit may like and be drawn to it, but fundamentally reddit cannot produce something like this.
https://vocaroo.com/11nq2mEmnYdH

>>715013016
I prefer CoD games to souls or Fromshovelware. At least they change things up more.

Story/art/aesthetics are the only things that make a singleplayer game worth playing. Mechanical challenge is only interesting when you're competing against other human beings, not bots that are programmed to ensure that you've always got a chance of beating them.

>Fromsoft never made a good game
>Persona started at 4
>Gacha isn't harming the industry but exploiting retards who don't belong in gaming in the first place
>Call of Duty is good if you ignore the shit games

I don't get what people see in Pokemon. I don't get what people have EVER seen in Pokemon. Every time I try it I put in a sincere effort to get invested and shortly after I get the first Gym Badge it all just turns to dust and I drop it entirely.

>>714996685
>Rockstar has made 1 good game (Bully)
Fixed.

>>714989046 (OP)
Megaman as a franchise peaked at GBA, both of its best series are on It.

Dark Souls is more JRPG than Dragon Quest 3

>>715013869
>fromsoft never made a good game
im assuming you dont know that fromsoft made games BEFORE Demon's Souls.

>>714991589
"Dark Souls bad" is the contrarian opinion, Anon.
Specifically it is considered "hard, but good" and popularized the idea of making adventure exploration games, but with "punishing" (not bullshit hard, there's a difference) mechanics/game balance.
And I fucking love this shit. I haven't gotten around to the full version of Khazan yet, but I loved the demo.

There should never be another Super Smash Bros. game released, unless it's a port.