Thread 714992087

Expedition 33 is just the same game as Star Ocean 3.

>Instead of universal simulator it's a painting.
>Instead of the threat of annihilation being a perceived glitch in the system when the simulated inhabitants discovered real magic its a sad French family fighting over their dead son.

It's a fun game but it's anything but original.

No one claimed it was original. Nothing's ever truly original anyway. The difference is that no one cares about SO3 and they do about E33 because it's a masterpiece. Nothing to do with originality.

anons been saying that since 4chan was hacked. what's your point?

>>714992087 (OP)
Nice spoilers retard

Except SO3 has a happy ending for the party.

>>714992087 (OP)
SO3 fumbled the bag. It was so bad that they never reference the events of that game in any of the sequels.

Didn't people hate SO3 because people felt like it invalidated the previous games?

>>714992645
>they do about E33 because it's a masterpiece
True jrpg players still remember fondly SO3 over 20 years later. Well not everyone, but most.
That flavor of the month was forgotten as soon as the advertising money ran out.

>>714996060
>in any of the sequels.
Retard.

>>714996116
It's just a bunch of very noisy people.
It doesn't invalidate anything as the simulated universe becomes real.

>>714996116
The twist fucked up the setting so badly they are still doing prequels and cannot advance past 3 chronologically

>>714997446
>That flavor of the month was forgotten as soon as the advertising money ran out.
Is that why it has multiple threads every day?

>>714997636
It had dozens of threads when it came out.
Now they barealy reach 10 replies and it's always pedos lusting after the girls.

>>714992087 (OP)
SO3's twist
>completely lacks any kind of foreshadowing and just breaks into metafiction territory for absolutely zero reason
>rapes the game and the entire series tonally, you now know it's all just a shitty MMO enterainment vr
E33's twist
>well foreshadowed and integrated into the entire game and exists at its core
>makes the fates of painted people extremely tragic because they are still living beings with their own agency locked in a world with uncaring demiurge masters

>>714997446
>True jrpg players still remember fondly SO3 over 20 years later. Well not everyone, but most.
Yeah, thats why no one talks about it, right? Because its soooooooooooo well remembered.
Fuck outta here, cunt.

>>714997446
Sorry the game you liked couldn't stick the landing, you can cry about it, but you know I'm right.

>>714997917
Very nice. Let's see SO3's threads...

>>714998084
>makes the fates of painted people extremely tragic because they are still living beings with their own agency locked in a world with uncaring demiurge masters
don't let versofags see this or they will burn your house down

>>714998084
Imagine being so fucking retarded you couldn't see the foreshadowing in star ocean 3. Guess I can't be surprised it's followed up by an equally retarded take parroted by so many star ocean "fans".

>>714998103
It's been talked for years, and still is today (yeah what is this thread about hhhmmm I wonder), but you wouldn't know since 20 years ago you were still inside your dad's ballsack.

>>714998267
>>714998276
Holy fucking zoomer cope.

>>714998397
Are you on drugs anon? I was talking about SO3 dropping the ball at the end, like Mass Effect 3 did.

>>714998369
There's literally a billion of ways to handle 4d dimension. Entertainment MMO is one of the worst ones. No wonder you have the shittiest taste among the fans of already shitty franchise.

Congratulations OP, you’ve discovered the recurrent patterns of archetypes and archetypal stories in human history

Wait ‘till he finds out about religious stories and religions that preceded them and their stories

>>714998397
Very interesting reply..... I am now convinced.... SO3 is extremely popular and well known. I just missed every thread about it in the past 15 years.... How could I have been so blind....

>>714992087 (OP)
i don't play very many jrpg's anymore but i remember renting that star ocean game. i rented it and almost missed my return window because of the orichalcum farming near the end game. great game though, and great twist. anyway, i'm old as fuck and the majority of people playing games today won't remember star ocean till the end of time and i don't think they ought to be pitted against each other even if they did.

>>714999213
The ending really pissed people off. It was very similar to Mass Effect 3, where the game looks and plays great, but the ending soured the experience.

>>714999414
Brother I don't give a fuck

>>714999414
no ending has ever even come close to being as bad as ME3. star ocean 3 had one (1) of like 15 'don't-do-this' poor ending practices that ME3 did.

>>714999486
You cared enough to reply twice to things you supposedly don't care about.
>>714999550
I like to think there are only 2 mass effect games and 3 never happened.

>>714992087 (OP)
Left is anime and shit.
Right is realistic and good.
It doesn't matter if thematically both games are the same fucking shit because anime is shit.

>>714992087 (OP)
at least star ocean doesnt have the unbearable woman and faggot story, dialogue and characters. I rather replay it over e33 any day any time.

>>715000221
Except you won't. Because the game is no as good as you would like us to believe. Unlike E33, which you HAVE played, because otherwise how would you know that it has an unbearable woman and a faggot story, dialogue and characters?

>>714996116
the 2deep4u matrix influenced twist at the end of SO3 fucked beyond repair the setting. so much so that Try Ace is stuck doing prequels, they legit can't go near or past SO3 timeline wise LMAO. who would have thought that making your amazing RPG world a simulation theory MMO because your team was high on matrix bullshit would kill the interest on it and revolt the fanbase.
SO3's entire existence is kind a taboo so far. Try Ace does everything they can to not talk about that game at all
if they had the balls, they would remake 3 and change the ending to erase the MMO retardation

>>715000430
>the game is not as good
its definitely better than e33.
e33 is literally unironically unbearable and not enjoyable unless you are a massive faggot for otherwise it will just offend you with how utterly faggity it is.
truly something only a cucked french faggot could conjure up.

>>715000221
>unbearable woman and faggot story, dialogue and characters
you're actually braintrotted

SO3 raped the franchise and was shit because it was obviously never part of the setting in the first place.

>>715000912
its true e33 is a shit faggot game.

Some people are really mad that E33 stole the lunch of jrpgs everywhere and still haven't gotten over it. Just wait until it wins GOTY, it'll only get worse.

>>715000791
Apparently it was good enough for you to play it until the end at least once. Couldn't have been that terrible if you managed to get through to the end...

>>715001028
>mfw

>>715001053
actually I stopped right when you get to old luminere. it was too fucking homosexual for me to stomach.
I was willing to give western developers a chance once again but I should have know better.
I thought it was going to be some dark and mysterious story full of occultism and myths. instead we got some faggot game with faggot characters talking about
muh depression.
I really do hate it a lot.

>>714992087 (OP)
>Same game
>Except it's different but if you look past all the differences it's totally the same!
You're an actual retard.

>>714992087 (OP)
It's actually kind of incredible Star Ocean 3 and Resonance of Fate are the only two Tri-Ace games with good stories.
That said E33 isn't SO3. It's the painted world from Dark Souls 3 run through a french AI.

SO3 is a master class on how to completely invalidate you own series. like, it literaly retroactively erases every previous story and characters by making be just NPCs that part of of MMO expansion.
Welch was one of the best mysterious beings in gaming for connecting the games, but it turns out she was just a player playing a new expansion LOL

>>715001434
That's still like 30hrs. I wouldn't spend 30hrs on a game I thought was utterly horrible....

>>715001730
It's based and puts into perspective how fucking dumb the stories usually are. It shifts the narrative from dumb entertainment to the awareness of dumb entertainment while having the best gameplay in the series, still. Pure masterclass lvdo.

>>715001816
>hur hur why you didnt like the game you didnt even play it
>hur hur why you didnt like the game if you spent time playing it?
go try that on some other faggot lmao.

>>714992087 (OP)
Literal who game that nobody cares about, how many millions sold that weeb game? E33 sold millions, cope more faggot

>>715002189
why do you tasteless faggots care so much about sales? it’s fucking weird man ngl desu.

>>715002018
yeah. so based that it killed the series to a point where no one who plays the games gives a fuck about the characters and what happens to them. which is important for a RPG
wow. so subversive so millennial and based. my hecking nihilistic matrixrino is so peak

>>715001713
>run through a french AI
what does that even mean?

>>715002028
What?

>>715002407
>just give me le retarded entertainment!!
SO2 was always trash
3 and 4 are the best games in the series. Unlocking Chaos in 4 is a nightmare though the game has way too much content

>>715002545
it means that the AI used to create that slop spoke french, hellooo was that hard to understand?

>>715002678
concession accepted, SO3fag. not even tri-Ace likes that game due to the damage it did to the entire brand. not even the blonde bimbo slut in last game made people care about the game LMAO

>>715000667
>Try Ace
I'm pretty sure you retards haven't played a single Star Ocean game. You're just parroting shit that you've read and heard other people say.

SOfags need to KNEEL at the feet of E33chads for allowing them to borrow from their light and provide them with a semi stable thread for them to talk about their silly games for the first time in 10 years.

>>715000667
You not only didn't finish the game, you didn't even bother to watch a video summarising it or read a plot summary

I'm not gonna lie, when I played Star Ocean 3 as a teen I barely paid attention to the story. I just remember hot alien ninja babes, cool fights and AHHH MY MONEY BLADE OF FURY SIDE KICK DIMENSION DOOR AIR RAID then I spammed stun bombs when Lenneth was kicking my ass.

>>715001547

Disregard what the OP said, Expedition 33 is really just like Madden 24 but you really need to want to see it.

>>715000080
>realistic
>good
>POWER LEVELS BRO!

>>714992087 (OP)
>story has similarity to other stories (who would avoid that in the 21st century)
>you could track many indirect inspirations
>philistine decides to focus on some broad analogy to some trite reference
Admit it OP you just wanted someone to post pic related in context.

>>714992087 (OP)
>derivative clone of a better game on every metric is derivative
And the ocean is blue.

>>714992645
>Nothing's ever truly original anyway
Cope

>>714998872
It's really not. But you should definately cry about it some more. Imagine being filtered by so3's storytelling of all things, absolutely shameful. Oh I see, you're one of "those" people who didn't even play the game but just parrots youtuber opinions, that's even more shameful anon.

Man the paintress fight is ruined on replays. It feels so sad when you kill her on the first playthrough. But now knowing that you simply kick her dumb ass out of the painting, all the emotion of her "death" is gone.

>>715000667
The world is real after the events of Star Ocean 3. They can easily go past it now.

>>715007624
>Imagine being filtered by so3's storytelling
Yeah having a truly shitty story does this to people

>>715004389
Lenneth isn't even hard wtf

>>715008002
It's okay, maybe pokemon is more your speed anon

>>715008301
I'm not gonna lie I had no idea how the hell to do item creation in that game and just prayed I got good shit, then died to Nibelung Valesti. Probably didn't help that I got Ethereal Blast and kept trying to land that shit.

>>715008493
You made it THAT far without item creation?

>>715008493
>Ethereal Blast
Yeah there's your problem. It's been more than a decade since I last fought Lenneth, but all I remember is that I let Fayt do sidekicks while I spammed either air slash or double slash with Albel.

>>715008840
Pretty sure you can beat even ethereal queen without IC. Definately gabrie celeste.

People who claim that SO3 ruined the series never actually beat the fucking game.

>>715008840
I used it, I just didn't know how to use it effectively so I couldn't make the extra busted stuff. It was Freya I couldn't get past in the end.

>>715009031
Yeah, the startup is just way too long, but it looked cool and did a ton of hits so I really wanted to land it.

SO3 was pure kino tho, i still remember my face when i saw the twits, i was like 14 but even then i could feel 2nd had embarrassment of how they fuck up

still SO3 is still my top 5 games of all time, sometimes when i sleep i can her the menu and battle sounds

>>715009425
I beat Freya with it though. But I was maining Maria and cheesing her through her.

>>715005332
yeah you