So which difficulty is reasonable. I know the last game's highest difficulty was retardedly balanced, so is it the same here?

you can always change it. Try something and the rule is simple. If you're not dying then it's too easy

if you are not playing Give Me God of War you are not really playing God of War

>>714994837
Give me God of War only exists in Modern God of War. So is modern god of war the real god of wars

God of War mode in Ragnarok is the hardest game in the series. Even harder than the retarded escort segment in God of War 2 on Titan. The Berserkers will make you want to kill yourself if you thought the Valkyries were hard.

>>714994156 (OP)
The game is pretty bad regardless of difficulty setting. It's significantly worse than the first reboot game.

>>714995373
How so?

>essayfag strikes again
you aren't getting a puzzle adventure, just play boing! dokomodake DS instead.

>>714994156 (OP)
>I know the last game's highest difficulty was retardedly balanced
balanced to be retardedly easy?

>>714994156 (OP)
GMGOW in this game isn't as frontloaded as GoW'18 and is overall slightly easier.

>>714995262
Oh yeah I forgot about Zerkers. Okay so the optional content is harder but the main story is slightly easier.

>>714995262
>>714995743
Okay so which one for challenge but not tedium where it feels like im attacking an enemy twice and then backing off after every 2nd attack for safety with no risk taking?

Is it really GMGOW?

>>714995705
I played it on easy

>>714995921
are you crippled? did you get your hand blown off or something? why wouldd you ever play on easy unless it is a legitimate case of needing to for accessibility because of some severe handicap?

Enemies shoot you from off screen constantly. Flying trans fairies all over the fucking place. Frog people spawning behind you spitting goo at you. The camera fucking sucks. Play on normal and be slightly less annoyed. Game sucks btw story is marvel slop

>>714995705
Stop posturing retard. GMGOW 2018 wasnt retardedly easym

i finished 2018 game on the highest difficulty and i killed all the valkyries except for the queen. How the fuck do you do that? Seems impossible

>>714996385
>Enemies shoot you from off screen constantly. Flying trans fairies all over the fucking place. Frog people spawning behind you spitting goo at you.
Stuff like this could be good if the game was designed like what I initially thought it would be with the perspective: Melee Resident Evil 4.

OG Resident Evil 4 had one of the most restrictive cameras, and it was a horde game, so the game became about becoming uniquely aware of your surrounding and positioning yourself in oppurtune choke points so that you can see as many enemies as possible, but this wouldnt work without the absurdly strong crowd control options it gives you, which are balanced by the sheer amount of enemies (and mixed enemies types you have to manage, like axe throwers who delay you targeting headshots for wide sweeping crowd control kick).

If Modern God of War just had strong crowd control options baked in. It could kind of be like a modern melee re4 where positioning due to the limited perspective is emphasized and controlling not just the space but your capacitive awareness of the space.

>>714995459
The story is much worse. Atreus' backseating is miserable. Atreus gameplay is bad. Kratos' unarmed moveset is heavily gimped and all of the interesting combat tech is dead.

Its unironically underrated. Like totk. Better than it's sequel and becomes an actual game with actual design

Give me God of War or pussy

>>714996406
yes, it was. valkyries are the only challenge in that game and that is only because they are overtuned because "LOL SUPERBOSS". it doesn't help that there was very, VERY little enemy variety and that encounters didn't really evolve or move past.

>>714996385
did they not get the memo from the first game or did they change it specifically because it was so easy and people complained? in the first game, enemies go "passive" (mostly) when not directly being looked at by players because it was far too often in playtesting that players were having difficulties and complaints about exactly what you are talking about.

>>714996718
no, the camera is the problem. it is far too zoomed in, being too close to kratos' shoulder (and not having the option to switch which shoulder it rests over). your situational awareness is severely limited, which sucks when the game is trying to be a hack and slash game.
combat is also dogshit because combat encounters are all mostly the same. there's next to no enemy variety beyond "random mook but stronger" or "random mook with wings", which leads to a small number of permutations of encounters. an encounter at the beginning of the game feels very much like an encounter at the end of the game. the actual abilities of kratos were fine, if sluggish. they don't really need to add crowd control options, just higher mobility. and more types of enemies with varied movesets.

>>714994156 (OP)
I completed everything on Give Me No Mercy. It's pretty fair, and the end-game bosses, Berserk King and Gna, are still very challenging and require mastering the game mechanics to beat.

>>714994156 (OP)
GMGOW in Ragnarok isn't nearly as autistically difficult as 2018. Much more fair and balanced.
>>714996712
>How the fuck do you do that? Seems impossible
She's just a conglomeration of the other Valks, so git gud and never get hit. Obviously you want to max out your gear if you haven't already. I think I used one of the Vivaldi sets from the DLC.

>>714997996
>in the first game, enemies go "passive" (mostly) when not directly being looked at by players because it was far too often in playtesting that players were having difficulties and complaints about exactly what you are talking about.
I bet you genuinely and unironically think Ocarina of Time is a good game. Great game even. No self awareness, if my presumtion is correct. If not. Maybe you are just a retard who cant help but express himself retardedly, rather than a genuine retard.

>>714997996
>no, the camera is the problem. it is far too zoomed in, being too close to kratos' shoulder (and not having the option to switch which shoulder it rests over). your situational awareness is severely limited
I have no idea why you just repeated this like a bot as if I did not just acknowledge this very thing.

And besides. The camera is even worse im RE4 than God of War. You cant even reasonably control it indepently of your movement, and when you do, it snaps back to wherever your facing. So no, the problem isnt the camera retard. Its that they didnt design a game with strong enough crowd control for how much situational awareness is necessary.

Have you ever even played RE4? I legit wont believe you if you said yes, because everything im saying is objective, and I have no idea what kind of nostalgia delusion could lead you to rationalize RE4 on a desperate need to be completely contrarian to the idea of God of War even being likened to a game you like.

>>714998574
you are so tiring to interact with, essayfag. you have no place calling others "retards who can't help but express themselves retardedly" when you don't make an actual argument, make random asspull assumptions, and "express yourself" by blurting out the word "retard" as many times as you can muster. kill yourself, cut your nails, go play with your buttplug, i don't care. just do it away from here.

>>714999190
I hope that was not you I was responding to. Its a very simple question. Does he think Ocarina of Time is a great game while he points out that flaw of crowd aggression in GOW2018? A game I dont even like btw.

Virgin

I died like 90 times trying to beat the valkyrie queen in 2018 and I played on the difficulty just one above normal, don't remember the name. Am I retarded?

>>715000187
No that shit was pretty hard

I love how the question of the thread still hasnt been definitively answered. I will refer back to this:
>714995902

>>715000440
Thanks anon, I feel absolved. For a while I really thought I've become too shit for video games, getting my ass handed to me like that

>>714998923
>I have no idea why you just repeated this like a bot as if I did not just acknowledge this very thing.
you acknowledge that there is a limited view, but your claim that the real problem is "no good crowd control options" when the real problems lie in situational awareness and mobility. there is no reason for kratos to be a slow, tanky juggernaut entirely bound to the ground
>The camera is even worse im RE4 than God of War. You cant even reasonably control it indepently of your movement, and when you do, it snaps back to wherever your facing. So no, the problem isnt the camera retard
just because you dislike the camera MORE in RE4 does not mean it is not a problem in god of w4r. that isn't how logic works. the problem is that it is too zoomed in and gives you low situational awareness in a game that is (other than bogstandard TPS adventure game controls popularized by RE4) a hack and slash game. the zoomed in camera and low situational awareness works in a game like RE because it is a horror game, the restriction of situational awareness adds to the tension. god of w4r is not a horror game, it's a hack and slash/beat em up, the tension should not be coming from "oh no i can't see what's coming next". the tension should be coming from how monumental the task is of slaying thousands of mythological monsters on your way to breaking up the fiefdom of deities. more mobility and better situational awareness would mean that the devs wouldn't have to make a passive mode for enemies outside your field of view (which they did because low situational awareness meant players kept getting fucked in the ass by things they couldn't see)
>what kind of nostalgia delusion could lead you to rationalize RE4 on a desperate need to be completely contrarian to the idea of God of War even being likened to a game you like.
they have similar control schemes. that doesn't mean they are the same type of game or that GoW should actually be MORE similar.

>>714998535
>and never get hit.
yeah, i noticed that. Margin of error is absurdly smol. Two hits, sometimes one and you're ded

>>715001703
>just because you dislike the camera MORE in RE4 does not mean it is not a problem in god of w4r. that isn't how logic works.
unbelievably retarded reading comprehension. i dont even know whether its worth reading the rest of what you have to say. the camera, and the restrictive perspective, demanding greater situational awareness is EXACTLY why. I still heavily prefer the OG RE4 to the remake.

And is part of the reason the game isnt as braindead as it should be.

The entire point of me highlighting how much more restrictive RE4's camera is. Is to PROVE that the camera isnt the problem. The camera can be "objectively" worse and the game can still be all the better for it.

Honestly at this point I just consider you kind of stupid no offense, so im not even that mad. Please improve your reading comprehension

>>714994156 (OP)
>Xhe actually wants to play leftoid slop in 2025
>Goy of War: Transnarok, my wife's gay son edition of all things
Eat a bullet tranny

>>715002908
you should have read the rest.
RE4 and god of w4r are games with different design goals. the camera works in RE4 because it is a horror game. the camera does not work in god of w4r because it is a mostly melee based hack and slash game. in RE4, you are already in a bad spot when things get into melee range. god of w4r is explicitly designed where you WANT enemies in melee range.

god of w4r's biggest issue is trying to copy games like RE4 and applying all the wrong lessons from those games or not understanding how the things that they copy are incongruent with the rest of the design.

>>715001703
>other than bogstandard TPS adventure game controls popularized by RE4
Re4's controls are not like other TPS. Never believe retarded developers when they say they were inspired by something, game devs are GENUINE retards. They see a loose concept, with attention by association to a big game, and do something loosely based on that.

Thats how you get the retarded GTA3 devs saying that GTA3 was inspired by Ocarina of Time despite neither games being even CLOSE to similar, not even the lock on (which is even worse and more cumbersome than Tomb Raider's which came out years prior) isnt similar.

But because game devs are actual retards he thinks that because he saw OoT do lock on, and wanted to also do lock on, that means he was inspired by OoT.

RE4 is good (to me) BECAUSE it doesnt play like any other TPS. Without the Camera perspective, and the slow as fuck sluggish, rooted to the ground tank movement. Changing positions wouldnt be as engaging and tense.

That is why GOW reminds me so much of. It is one of the few games that is virtually adopting that exact same perspective movement. Even down to 90% of traversal actually being triggered by context buttons.
>works in a game like RE because it is a horror game
Are you stupid? Are you actually just being a dumb bot? I gave you a chance man. Dont disappoint me with this juvenile tier logic of "Its a horror game because its LABELED a horror game so it must be!" and if you just appeal to "its clearly supposed to be a horror game i felt scared" then nothing actually means anything and it doesnt matter since i could just say not only did i not find RE4 remotely scary (and that was actually one of the reasons i was even able to play it because it didnt feel like an actual horror game whereas I put off REmake for a long time because it actually seemed scary) but i could also say GOW is scary.

What you really mean is that the game is supposed to be "tense" To which I say, there's no reason God of War cant be too.

>>715003384
>in RE4, you are already in a bad spot when things get into melee range. god of w4r is explicitly designed where you WANT enemies in melee range.
Now see. This is the only thing I agree with in principle. In a game where you primary means of engaging with an enemy, largely has to be in their face, a zoomed in perspective can indeed be limitiing, because you cant engage with enemies effectively from the distance (and perspective) that would give you the most view. BUT this is a game where your axe is literally throwable, and your big secondary weapon are chains.

All they would need to do is literally just increase crowd control and MAAAAAYBE zoom out the camera a bit more since the primary mode of engagement with enemies would be the midrange, considering the chains.

>>714994156 (OP)
>God of Onions 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SqRS2bi280

>>714994156 (OP)
Use Highest difficulty + a trainer to increase damage multiplier against enemies (I use 4x) and hacksilver multiplier (10x).
I do the same with the Souls Games. (20 - 30x souls, I hate farming)
>>714995092
Give Me God of War means to give (you) the OG God of War experience.
>>714995262
I thought the area before we reached the fat multiple-titted sister was harder than that.

What is this? An actual game discussion thread on God of War of all things? On my videogame board? Without buzzwords and circlejerk thinly veiled political memes being thrown around? By the Gods...whats happened to you /v/

>>714997996
You are right about the FOV being too narrow. But I think there is more enemy variety.

Cut your fucking nails before playing it Okiirano

>>714994156 (OP)
>muh kratos humiliation ritual
God of war 2018 and ragnarok are horrible from start to finish. I don't know how anyone got it into their head that these were good games -- The gameplay was a complete downgrade from the classic series and the plot was written by actual faggot retards.

>>715003770
>Give Me God of War means to give (you) the OG God of War experience.
Are you pretending the OG games were actually ever hard?

>>715003761
>BUT this is a game where your axe is literally throwable, and your big secondary weapon are chains.
blades of chaos show up way too late in the game to argue that their inclusion affects the game in its totality. you only have the chains for the last quarter, approximately.
the axe being throwable/returnable with no consequence was an absolute design mistake that trivialized the gameplay. the return ability should have been put on a timer, so you can throw it up to twice in quick succession, but would have to run and pick it up if your timer is still counting down, forcing you into the fray while your offensive capabilities are not as strong.
neither of these things change the fact that this IS a hack and slash at heart, even if they made the retarded decision to lean into third person shooter action movie game trends. leaning into these trends are the source of why the game is bad. DMCV was able to remain mostly a DMC game when it came back, why did nuGoW have to go and shit the bed and change the design and characters and vibe?

>>715003770
>I do the same with the Souls Games. (20 - 30x souls, I hate farming)
not a single souls game has the need to farm. they give you ample souls from bossses, enemies, and the soul cluster items.

>>715003910
i was being hyperbolic. yes, there is more variety than i described, but not much more and not enough that there is an interesting mix of different permutations of the different types of enemies.

>>715004289
God of War 2018 is fine. It could have had more enemy variety. I hated the kid, he has no redeeming qualities, and a modern American accent which pulls you out of the mythological fantasy world. The story is simple and good.
God of War Ragnarok is utter shit apart from combat. I love the Draupnir spear. The story is clearly written by newer writers with midwits from the Sweet Baby Inc. flying like vultures around their head.
God of War Valhalla is near perfect. It only needs the high FOV mod.

>>715005262
>blades of chaos show up way too late in the game to argue that their inclusion affects the game in its totality.
nigga we are talking about raganrok not 2018. i agree that gow2018 is trash and its combat is trash. blades of chaos should have been available from the start

>>715003770
You cheated not only the game, but yourself. You didn't grow. You didn't improve. You took a shortcut and gained nothing. You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

>>715005410
>nigga we are talking about raganrok not 2018
we are talking about the camera that plagues all nuGoW.

>>715004915
They were kind of, at the hardest difficulty. You may be a goddammed genius of a gamer with finger flicking techniques that makes women piss and fart while climaxing, so controller is no big deal but not all of us possess same talent.

I'll play these games one day when they release a mod that lets you me skip all the horrible dialog, walk and talk sections and unskippable diarrhea cutscenes.

>>714996061
Because game is 30h+ and I want to finish other games also.

>>715005542
No, I liked Ghost of Tsushima's lethal difficulty where 1 or 2 blows kill enemies and you too. So I try to emulate that in each game possible.

>>715005624
I already said I dont disagree its flawed. They should even maybe zoom it out a bit since the blade of chaos is midrange more than long range comparitively to re4.

But all the game would need to solve this is better and more crowd control

>>715005883
it needs to be zoomed out considerably, at least until you can see what is behind kratos's feet. kratos needs more mobility like a better dodge and a double jump. the combat options otherwise are fine, but the return ability of the axe being infinite with no timer on use trivializes its use. the game should be more hack and slash, less shooter.

>>715006341
Axe throwing barely does any damage but yes, the entire game needs to not be shit

I like it a lot better when im set free to roam around doing puzzles, finding, fighting the mini bosses.
The moment i'm reminded there's a story, my enjoyment just deflates.

>>715006408
>Axe throwing barely does any damage
The value of axe throwing is freezing retard. The crowd control. Its one of the reasons no blade of chaos for so long is bad. Not having anything but your firsts to capitalize on freezing an enemy for so long is bad

>>714994156 (OP)
Give me my wife's son

>>715006618
I just use my fists as much as possible because it's fun and satisfying unlike the gay ice axe

>>715006593
>I like it a lot better when im set free to roam around doing puzzles, finding, fighting the mini bosses.
Agreed. Its decent when it allows itself to be windwaker

>>715006684
It also has the worst range and is borderline useless without spartan rage. Even just for the simple function of damage it sucks

>>715006618
Axe throwing is a tool to freeze, taking care of flying fucks and giving you the unharmed moveset, it's not supposed to be the damage dealer.

>>715006862
Uh yeah, i literally said that dude

>>715006976
oops i replied to the wrong person, silly me, forget it.

>>714994156 (OP)
second from highest
the game balance is kinda ass, the game is generally easy and then you have borderline impossible side content

hey, essayfag. i've been curious. fill this out for me, won't you?

>>715007284
Oddly second highest seems the most common recommendation, because I dont get the GMGOW reccs when the game is apparently easier than the first

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fneQh7ThIyA

Was trying this a bit ago. Failed at the end.
Other than that though the actual game on GMGOW is much easier than 2018 especially at the start. Though once you knew what you were doing in 2018, that was also quite easy.

>>715007657
only the main story content is easier, the side bosses are some of the most bullshit crap ever created that breaks the camera and combat
like forcing you to fight multiple enemies that can 1 shot you from outside of your camera angle
even on the second highest you will wonder what the fuck is up with those random difficulty spikes, and by the time you can backtrack those bosses will be eaither too easy, or the end games ones that are bullshit either way
generally, balance is poor

No mercy is fine. Decent challenge. GMGOW is just a meme difficulty where everything one shots you.

>>714997842
You are fucking crazy, the iron woods section makes game go from a 7 to a 4

>>715007940
Filtered by the triple berserker fight? Or the poison berserker summoning his mobs. Gotta get better. There is no bullshit. Theres easy strats for every berserker, even on GMGOW.

>>715008216
ye lol, both the poison and that multi fight is pure bullshit
only matched by those flying faggots refusing to get in fucking melee range, fuck

>>715006593
Mute ingame dialog and skip cutscenes.
>>715007581
Here you go

>>715008352
In the triple berserker fight so long as you never stagger the MAIN one, ther other two sisters never attack you. I'll repeat. As long as the main one never staggers the other twins will never attack you.
Knowing this, theres a really cool realm shift strat you can use, where you realm shift the main one and keep throwing the spear at the twin sisters. Its funny as fuck.
For the poison fight, as soon as he summons the mobs, use spear throw to immediately kill the nightmares, then use your runics on the others. You'll wipe out the mobs in 10 seconds, and you will be back to fighting him one on one.

>>714994156 (OP)
Give Me God of War is much better balanced here than it is in the previous game.

>>715008846
but some love into it, nigga.

If I didn't like the GoW 2018 I won't be like this one, right?

Does Ragnarok suffer from the dogshit FOV? I swear to Christ, the first game was neigh unplayable and gave me nausea trying to track the shitty Valkyries on GMGOW on ultrawide. Literally can only see their feet for some of their attacks. Literal 0 out of 10 experience.

>>715005302
>God of War 2018 is fine.
It's not. The story isn't good. In fact it shits all over itself near and at the end. Baldur a shit. Freya a shit. The lack of enemy variety just exposes how boring the combat is.
>God of War Valhalla is near perfect.
You're not a real person.

>>715009384
If youre like me with BotW vs TotK. Then genuine improvements to something you already wanted to like should be enough. I hate BotW, and enjoyed TotK much more, even if I ultimately felt it succumbs to the same flaws.
Haven't played GOW though so I can't say. Just opening you up to the idea that you can dislike a modern series' first game and like its sequel.

>>715008875
i did use the spear in both cases ... i did gave up on valkyrie queen though, too much hp...

>>715009220
So basically Undead Nightmare II?

>>715009626
I am a real person. I promise.

I enjoyed the 2018 game.

>>715015004
that wasn't mine, just someone whose chart i liked. though, i would say that undead nightmare was the best any RDR game has been. also, feels a little more "shadow wizard money gang", with wizard outlaws in a steampunk world than just what undead nightmare is.

here's mine, though no one really seems to get it...

>>715015551
You are autistic that's why. I thought the point was to choose one game for each.

fuck ragnarok, shits just stunlock after stunlock compared to 2018
get hit once with a certain attack and you know you can just load a checkpoint because youll just eat four more hits and die
a bitch ass raider can just knock you out of your runic wtf is this
at least gna was a breath of fresh air after the rest of the bullshit

>>715015795
>You are autistic
Maybe so
>One game for each
Says who?

>>715015795
alright. if you want one that's a little more straightforward, i also have this one i made.