>Free online
>fully backwards compatible with both the PS1 AND PS2
>better exclusives
>MGS 4
Admit it, it was better than the 360.

>>715022345 (OP)
>Free online
at launch it was like a wasteland
>fully backwards compatible with both the PS1 AND PS2
dropped in like one year
>better exclusives
subjective, I tend to agree
>MGS 4
yeah that was a big one, still have my copy
>Admit it, it was better than the 360.
they were both great I don't get this tribalism
they both lost to the wii btw

>only backwards compatible if you bought an unreliable launch model with a GPU that cooked itself
>only way to get a mostly reliable one was to send it to sony for repairs after they made the 40nm RSX and could retrofit it
>even sony repaired models are now dying because of bad capacitors so you have to fix them yourself
>all this is for MOSTLY functional backwards compatibility where games can spaz out on the newer hardware or corrupt your saves because of bad memory card emulation
>the only actual benefit is faster load times than on a real PS2
>meanwhile on the current gen games you bought the console for, load times are glacially slow because of the blu-ray drive
>nearly every multiplat runs and/or looks worse on PS3 than 360 as well as loading slowly
>if the 360's faster disc drive wasn't enough, its load times now lap the PS3 after a mid-gen software update let you install almost any game to the hard drive for faster load times; on PS3 you have to hope the developer of each individual game chose to implement it
PS3 was a very nice media center and blu-ray player with a handful of good exclusive games. 360 was better at being a game console. all three consoles were poorly made and not worth owning until a few years in when bumpgate was fixed. wii got off easier than the other two, but was still susceptible to permanent GPU damage if you used WiiConnect24, which you probably did if you connected it to the internet.
all three consoles are worth owning now because you can easily get later revisions with reliable hardware and hack them to pirate any game you want.

>>715022345 (OP)
Not at that original price. Keep in mind the original 20GB model that was $100 cheaper than the main launch SKU had no wifi support and was more susceptible to YLOD because Sony was bottom-binning the chip.
People always make these comparisons to the 360 in hindsight, and usually they weren't even around during the PS3 vs. 360 days, so they don't really understand that the PS3 was doing horribly for most of its life until its last 2 years before the PS4 launch, and even then it still had to compromise.
I still remember Red Dead Redemption being a slideshow when it came out for PS3, and then going to my friend's house and seeing him boot up the 360 version of the game and it was practically double the framerate.

>>715023467
Based and deeply techpilled. People forget how much of the PS3’s early appeal was just cope. The Cell was an engineering flex with zero payoff-devs struggled with it so hard we ended up with awful multiplats for half the gen. And don’t get me started on the mandatory installs for like half the library. Ninja Gaiden Sigma scarred me waiting 20 minutes to play.

Meanwhile, 360 let you toss in a disc and get to the main menu before the PS3 even finished shouting “Sony Computer Entertainment.” PS3 exclusives were solid, sure, but they felt like they were doing a victory lap for a race they lost halfway around the track.

At least now you can crack any of them open and actually make them useful-but none of that changes the fact that the PS3 at launch was a $600 hotbox that wanted to be your Blu-Ray player more than your game console.

i have a ps3 slim. why isn't it BC like the fat boy? i always felt like i got the short stick.

>>715024123
lmao I remember sony fanboys here flexing how some whogivesafuck institution were daisy chaining ps3's to make a super computer from "the cell"
>>715025230
because it was the bc was from hardware that was cut from later models.

>>715025230
The slim was much better than the fat ps3. The backwards compatibility wasn't great and everybody already had a PS2 anyway. The launch PS3 was also just as unreliable as the early 360.

>>715023467
>permanent GPU damage if you used WiiConnect24
>mfw realizing the artifacting on my Wii wasn't because of the video cables

>>715022345 (OP)
Of course, it just got derailed because it costed too much and it got hacked and was offline for months. It also had a no games problem until devs finally got it together and by that point, it was unstoppable. It's a shame it and the Vita killed Sony's Japanese PlayStation branch, Sony Computer Entertainment. The Last of Us and the PS4 were the beginning of the end.

>>715023742
>People always make these comparisons to the 360 in hindsight, and usually they weren't even around during the PS3 vs. 360 days, so they don't really understand that the PS3 was doing horribly for most of its life until its last 2 years before the PS4 launch, and even then it still had to compromise.

This is the only reason they did free online. It wasnt out of goodwill for the consumer, it was because they didnt have the balls to charge you for online yet. Paid online might even have killed the console.

Xbox 360 had the better exclusives 1st party and 3rd party, XBLA arcade which was like an exclusive store and also party chats which was an exclusive feature. The ps3 cost more and was worse. In no universe was the ps3 a better gaming machine. A better movie machine sure I'll give you that. I ended up giving my ps3 to my parents to use as a blu ray player while I mained the 360 for the gen.

>>715022345 (OP)
Unironically it was a technically better multimedia machine but the price for "gaymers" was too steep. Considering the PS3 came bundled with a then brand new Blu-Ray player that was still valued at closer to $1000 at the time for a stand alone Blu-Ray unit.

>>715022345 (OP)
In North America only losers that player weeb RPG's had a PS3. Well adjusted social people like myself had a 360 for system link play with friends and everyone had Xbox live if you just wanted to play without getting together. Everyone had headsets, it was a great time.
Not to mention it played multiplat titles way better aside from some edge cases.
There's a reason the 360 outsold the PS3 and the Wii in the only market that matters (USA! USA! USA!)

>>715028352
360 outsold both the wii and ps3 here in Europe too (UK)

>>715028352
Shut your normalfag ass up, because of retards like you, everyone had to pay for online meaning now you're paying double for your own fucking internet. The 360 doing well fucked over gaming in the long run.

>>715022345 (OP)
>>fully backwards compatible with both the PS1 AND PS2
Only some versions

>>715022345 (OP)
All true, but it is true that most multiplats ran significantly better on the 360 though.

>>715028712
>because of retards like you, everyone had (sic) to pay for online
That's funny, because I've never had to pay twice to use my internet. So either I'm nobody, or there's some kind of trick that lets you play games without getting assfucked by greedy console companies.

>>715028712
>Shut your normalfag ass up, because of retards like you, everyone had to pay for online meaning now you're paying double for your own fucking internet. The 360 doing well fucked over gaming in the long run.
The 50 dollar a year subscription for Xbox live was great for keeping our the Brazilians, Australians, Bulgarians, jeets, etc. I would literally pay 50 dollars a year NOW if it meant I could play online games like I did back then. Xbox live on the original xbox and the xbox 360 was special, sorry you missed it Playing CoD on the PS3 was absolutely soulless because nobody was talking and you had to deal with 400 ping retards from australia.
I don't even have a console and I'm still pissed off no one on PC talks (unless its in some autistic milsim) because they're probably on some weird discord server I have no intention of joining. Fucking hate modern multiplayer.

>>715022345 (OP)
Yeah it was neato. I used the poke fun at my 360 bros for having to pay for their online.

>>715028579
lol

>>715023467
The biggest issue with old PS3's is the crappy thermal paste used. This was also the issue with my ps4pro,

>>715023467
Nah the launch models had about perfect backwards compatibiliy. You're thinking of the later models

>>715034342
it wasn't PERFECT on any model, a handful of games had compatibility issues on every model. sony maintained a compatibility list back in the day. games that didn't like the memory card emulation e.g. persona also had the issue on every model, even if you bought the software emulated versions.

>>715022345 (OP)
No games for years meant the 360 was just a better choice for ages
At the end it finally got some games but by then it was too late

>>715022345 (OP)
>Free online
With significantly worse online features that took an eternity to do anything with. To this day you still need to manually sync trophies which takes forever, your message box is this unholy abomination, your friends list somehow does not update when people are on other Playstation platforms and only tells you if they're specifically on the PS3, and party chats were abysmally implemented. This isn't even getting into the issue where the overwhelming majority of PS3 games that had multiplayer servers either had issues the 360 versions did not have at all, or were dead in the water while the 360 versions were still flourishing. Assassin's Creed games for example tended to have instant game launches on 360 whereas PS3 had you waiting minutes for a lobby.
>fully backwards compatible with both the PS1 AND PS2
*only available on launch models that are the most prone to YLODing and breaking. The compatibility was also all over the place and tended to introduce issues that weren't present on the PS1 or PS2 at all, particularly with the memory card.
>better exclusives
After years and years of waiting and getting the boatloads of 360 exclusives ported to it, yeah.

This isn't getting into the fact that 95% or so of all multiplats or ported exclusives played better on the 360 and still do to this day. There's no reason to ever buy games like Bayonetta, Asura's Wrath, Red Dead Redemption, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Binary Domain, Dragon's Dogma, Call of Duty, or Assassin's Creed games on the PS3. Even when AC games had exclusive content on the PS3 specifically it was still objectively the worst platform for the games.
It was extremely rare that you got an L.A. Noire, Vanquish, or Final Fantasy XIII where the PS3 version was worth looking at at all let alone superior to the 360 version.

>>715022345 (OP)
Don't forget
>actual built in wi-fi and HDMI capabilities
>4 usb ports
>blu ray support
>linux support
Lack of games aside, it was a feature rich console for its era

>>715023467
>360's faster disc drive
What are you smoking? 360 has a normal DVD drive. Not only is it slower than Bluray, it made it necessary to split games onto multiple discs towards the end of the gen just like on PS1 and PS2.

>>715022345 (OP)
"Fully" backwards compatible is a lie. Try playing GT4 on that sunnovabitch without crashing in the license tests.

>>715037197
PS3's blu-ray drive had a significantly slower read speed than the 360's DVD drive. this is why many PS3 ports of 360 games had a mandatory hrad drive install on PS3, when they didn't even require a hard drive on 360. blu-rays held far more data, and that benefit PS3 in some ways like prerendered cutscenes being much higher bitrate in PS3 versions of multiplats, but it was still slower, no doubt about it.

PS3 was my last "console war" and the launch model was really nice. I ended up getting rid of it eventually, before it YLOD. I now have heard you can get a Frankenstein mod and switch out the RSX with a later model. I also heard you can overclock it just a bit as well. Such a great piece of tech - and Chad Warden approved!

>>715022345 (OP)
The extra features the ps3 came with were cool but a lot of it was stripped out and the only model that has everything is the one that has nvidia's suicidal gpu. Also no gaems but zoomers on /v/ were toddlers during the first few years of the ps3 so they don't remember that.

>>715022345 (OP)
I still prefer the 360's library, the way the achievements worked on there, and menus. XMB is laggy as hell in some games.
But if you offered me a full BC PS3, I'd choose that over anything.

>>715022345 (OP)
It was, but it was too expensive at launch and non-Sony devs had issues making proper code as its language was weird.

>>715022345 (OP)
It wins because it didn't kill itself. 360 being cheaper was irrelevant because everyone had to replace it.

>>715037452
i wonder if overclocking is enough to close the gap in performance on ports of 360 games or if they're still shitty. whenever i see benchmarks they're on shitty lategen multiplats like skyrim and GTAV because thirdies still stuck with a PS3 don't play anything else. would be interesting to see on older games.

The PS3 has nogaems.

>>715022345 (OP)
>fully backwards compatible with both the PS1 AND PS2
only on models that melted themselves to death in the same timeframe as rrod models of xbox were out
>better exclusives
maybe, but xbox had dibs on console ports of cave shooters for a long fucking while and the 2nd best saga game, the last remnant
>MGS 4
counter argument: senko no ronde rev.x and duo (in japan only)
the verdict? both are good

>>715031776
https://mcvuk.com/business-news/xbox-360-overtakes-wii-as-the-uks-no-1-games-console/

What?

>>715038160
You might be able to make it closer to 30 but that wouldn't fix the issues of straight up missing textures, screen tearing, worse AA solutions, or even lower resolutions. So many PS3 games were a lower resolution than the 360 on top of their performance issues.

>>715041980
tbf you could fix some of these through config file mods or yml patches made for rpcs3, if you really wanted a like for like comparison. but closing the gap in framerate was my primary concern. games that look worse AND run like shit are the real devils.

>>715034089
>ps4 pro
Tf happened? Were you an early adopter? I’ve had mine since about 2019, no issues other than fans being a little loud

That one Japanese dude on Ridge Racer 7 that does 720 spinny flips in the air and dunks all over your ass is still on.

>>715042272
I had my PS4 Pro day one and had none of the issues people keep saying about it like loud fans or it randomly dying. I feel like there must have been a lottery for that early release because I only ever hear it at all in graphically intensive games like Days Gone, Ghost of Sushi, or HZD.

>>715042272
My PS4 Pro was the loudest console I have ever had. It even outdoes dying Dreamcast and launch model Xbox 360. It's absurd.

I traded it in for a PS5, and yeah it's fucked up to pass this on to someone else. But I did at Gamestop, it's not like I sold it to another person or a reputatable store.

>>715022345 (OP)
we didnt know how good we had it
or how much worse everything could get

>>715042462
Yeah, I'm convinced there's gotta be some sort of system lottery like IPS panel 3DSes. The loudest my PS4 Pro ever got was "Normal 360 running a disk" levels of loud, if that, and you gotta be near it to hear that sound mostly.

>>715042360
>>715042462
Guess I lucked out with mine, I really do like this console too. I think a bit more than my PS3 Super Slim at this point, it’s just such a tank, I keep getting surprised with the stuff that gets a PS4 port noawadays like Jedi Survivor

Who is dumb enough to buy a ps4 pro when a console like the one x existed and was leagues better in every way

>>715043341
Xbone X had and still has
>A horrendous UI that has only gotten worse with the Series release since it's got a synchronized UI design across the Xbones and Series systems.
>The worst screenshotting system on the market with no button to do it requiring you to press the flush guide button (Another terrible change) to open up the guide to even take a screenshot.
>If you record a video and take a screenshot during said video, even if you are using the instant replay, it corrupts the video.
>If you do not have a thumb drive in your system and tell it specifically to download to it then the system only keeps the screenshots on your system for 30 days with generic filenames, and even with the recent patches to the UI you can't get the files off your machine with the correct timestamps or filenames.
>A controller that is worse than the 360's controller outside of the d-pad that also lacks features of the DS4 or Wii U Pro controllers.
>Japanese games being nonexistent on the platform.
>Very low amount of exclusives that are worth playing even if you don't consider PC a viable platform to play them on or improved ports like New Super Lucky's Tale.

I'm an idort. I've owned everything in every gen from 6 onwards minus the DC and now the Switch 2 and the Xbone X and SeX were only purchased because I like playing certain game brands specifically on the systems and no other reason besides that like DC games, Lego games, Halo, Gears of War, Ubisoft games, and Star Wars games. If I did not have this stupid want to play these games on these specific systems my XBL account would have been rotting since the 360 era as there is no reason to ever buy an Xbone or Series system. They are both terrible systems with a terrible ecosystem that hates physical copies and Japanese games are borderline nonexistent with the PS3, PS4, and PS5 all having games the Xbox ecosystem doesn't and never will have.

>>715043779
I own all the consoles and literally every thing you said here is a flat out lie.

>>715037049
You could also, with official support mod a few games.

Managed to find a save editor and gun builder for borderlands where you could just copy the ps3 save file to a usb stick, edit it and back to the ps3

And there were also the custom maps for unreal tournament 3 which was the same process.

Imagine a console letting you do that in this day and age

>>715043779
Xbone X still has good BC support. Its the system I use to play games like Ninja Gaiden II, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Otogi and more

>>715044783
Limited ass support, it can’t even play Phantom Crash or Wreckless or anything that’s not the top 5 most requested OGXB games

>>715023467
>>only backwards compatible if you bought an unreliable launch model with a GPU that cooked itself
Nah it was great. How the fuck can you try to hold this up against the PS3 when the 360 backcompat was actual shit, you didn't even have access to it if you had the base model, and most games were replete with visual glitches, with many running at a consistent 15fps or worse
And all PS3 models are fully backcompat with PS1 which is great
>>even sony repaired models are now dying because of bad capacitors so you have to fix them yourself
Did you forget that OG 360 had a 50% failure rate LOL. There are FAR more fat PS3's still around and being used
>>meanwhile on the current gen games you bought the console for, load times are glacially slow because of the blu-ray drive
Straight up false
>>nearly every multiplat runs and/or looks worse on PS3 than 360 as well as loading slowly
Complete fucking meme, a few ports like Bayonetta (which was ported by a different studio) were really bad and people point to these to pretend like PS3 versions were unplayable. Most games ran about the same on both consoles, in fact as the gen went on many games ran better on PS3. If you could stand the 360 version, you could stand the PS3 version
There was literally a far bigger difference between OG Xbox and PS2 in performance

>>715022345 (OP)
>dad buys a fat ps3
>ffw in ~2010 it got the ylod
>family stills blames me for it

>>715022345 (OP)
The only worthwhile exclusive I can think of on the PS3 is Demon Souls, meanwhile the Xbox had all the Halo games and all the Gears games and had better performance and was cheaper.

For Aussies like myself the PS3 Slim and Xbox 360 E are the a very good way to play older games properly because of HD collections like DMC and GOW and the 60hz refresh rate finally being in PAL TVs

>>715048138
But there is also God of War III

>>715049914
*are a

>>715022345 (OP)
PS3 eventually became the better console but 2006-2010 were some grim fucking years. Also MGS4 is a fucking joke.