>Mayles is gone
>Everwild is cancelled
What's next for Rare?

>>715029232 (OP)
Sell em back to Nintendo and have them make another 2 decades of humiliation ritual for that one animal they keep putting in smash.

>>715029232 (OP)
KI 3

>>715029232 (OP)
The lionhead treatment

>>715029883
Sea of Thieves still makes money I think

>>715029232 (OP)
>Everwild is cancelled
Does anyone actually care?

How long was this shit in development an apparently they still had no idea what the game was going to be

>>715029420
Microsoft isn't gonna sell them to Nintendo because Nintendo doesn't buy studios just because.
Nintendo doesn't hate Rare or hold anything against them but buying back Rare themselves would be a waste and I mean no disrespect.
Nobody from the Nintendo days are still there, they have no connections or understanding of the current staff unlike Next Level Games whom they had a multi generation long history before buying outright, they're not interested in live-service games so Sea of Thieves wouldn't be of any interest to them, and Everwild went nowhere.
Not a good look especially if the value is still too expensive.
But does Nintendo have an incentive or logical reason to acquire their IPs in-specific?
Yeah but not in a way one would romanticize
They don't have teams available right now who'd want to handle Banjo-Kazooie, Perfect Dark, etc and Rare themselves aren't interested.
The only pragmatic reason Nintendo would be interested would be if they wanted to secure Rare's backlog of games to prevent long-term negotiation fees to re-release titles like DK64 or Diddy Kong Racing but even if Microsoft is selling and a potential outside buyer could be harder to negotiate with, Nintendo would likely rather choose to negotiate with the new owner instead of paying for the rights as a whole.

>>715030687
Way things are going, Nintendo could end up getting the Rare IPs for way cheaper than they could have by buying rare back in the day

IMAGINE being Gregg Mayles

>Make industry-shaking smash hits
>Bring Donkey Kong back from the dead into a household name
>Revolutionize 3D platforming
>Save the N64 literally
>Make ONE flop for your entire career (Nuts and Bolts)
>Your entire fanbase turns on you
>Microsoft fires everyone at Rare and you make Kinect shit while your friends make another Banjo like game without you
>Years later Nintendo literally steals the ideas from that same flop for their flagship series and everyone LOVES it
>Flounder at Rare, get your new project cancelled
>Retire in obscurity
I mean he had several chances to make Banjo 3...

Mayles retiring means nothing at worst and could even be a good thing. The dude refused to work on any of their IPs unless he could "revolutionize" it, yet they haven't done anything new either. They've been doing nothing but fucking Sea of Thieves for a decade.

>715030687
>negotiation fees to re-release titles like DK64 or Diddy Kong Racing
Nintendo has all rights to anything and everything Donkey Kong. We've already seen DK64 on the Virtual Console. Diddy Kong Racing is probably questionable though, having Banjo and Conker and also being published by Rare themselves.

>>715031012
Anon, for the situation to happen
>Sea of Thieves would have to longer be seen as profitable
>Microsoft is secretly discussing negotiating Rare's IPs to Nintendo
>They cancelled Everwild to prepare shutting down Rare (and also because it was in development Hell)
>Perfect Dark got cancelled because it's also a Rare IP (aside from being in development Hell)
>Rare goes bust and Sea of Thieves shuts down
>Microsoft sells the entire Rare IP catalog to Nintendo who for some reason agrees to pay presumably millions of dollars for them even though they have no resources available to support one let alone all of them
>Microsoft uses the money for other projects (probably AI)
You'd have to create an elaborate conspiracy for that to be plausible

>>715029232 (OP)
Chained to Sea of Thieves until it dries up and they get shuttered or absorbed into something else.

>>715031465
>Nintendo has all rights to anything and everything Donkey Kong. We've already seen DK64 on the Virtual Console.
It's not the characters
It's Jetpac

>>715031545
Sea of Thieves could stop being profitable next week if Microsoft wants an excuse to fully shutdown rare, they could also just give the reins over to a different developer

>>715031016
>Microsoft fires everyone at Rare
They left

>>715031717
>they could also just give the reins over to a different developer
Who?
And that's under the logic Nintendo is willing to pay extra for a studio they wouldn't even find use of

>>715031012
Why would nintendo be interested in Rare IPs?

>>715030687
the real question is why didn't nintendo bought them in 2002 and let microsoft take them?

>>715030687
All over a troll post. No I didn't read it.

>>715032514
>Why would nintendo be interested in Rare IPs?
Crashing this thread

>>715032580
Microsoft outbid them
The Stampers approached Nintendo first but they weren't interested so they open themselves to be bought out by whoever
Nintendo didn't go for Rare because their output diminished hard during the last years of their partnership having missed multiple deadlines and they were moving away from foreign devs in favor of collaborating with domestic
They sold their minority stake in Rare and used that money for other projects

>>715029232 (OP)
Conker 2

Shame, if the N64 had actually achieved even ONE modicum of success, I could see Nintendo bothering to purchase Rare for the N64 backlog for a Virtual Console or Rare Replay Switch release, maybe even bankrolling some new games with Rare IP like Viva Pinata

Unfortunately, none of that happened and Rare is going to shrivel and Nintendo will release half baked slop for 80 dollars that you WILL buy

>>715032580
Rare was losing talent at the time and even the stampers wanted out, that's why they approached Nintendo with the proposition of being bought

>>715029232 (OP)
Eternal work on Sea of Thieves until they put it in maintenance mode.

>>715032880
They lost the Goldeneye guys
That's it

>>715031545
>You'd have to create an elaborate conspiracy for that to be plausible


Well as luck would have it you're on the website that easily buys into elaborate conspiracies.

>>715031465
Nintendo still has to pay to use the source code for the Rare games.

>>715033009
They don't need the source code unless they're changing shit. They already have the compiled roms.

>>715032514
Maintaining their re-release catalog so they don't have to worry about something that causes the games to be pulled out.....and that's about it
Not really worth shelling millions of dollars over
And even then Microsoft would equally likely keep Rare's IPs for Game Pass

i know a lot of sot players cause my gf is obsessed with the game and I play with her sometimes

they all buy a lot of the cosmetic MTX that they shit out whenever. the pets, skins, boat parts, emotes etc.

It's their chill hang out game and they don't even care the new season had nothing new . Just rehashed ideas/

Rare or what's left of it will be stuck in the SoT mines until the whales eventually became bored and move onto the next thing that can replace SoT. I thought wildgate was gonna be it but no.

>>715032514
Because old 90s boomers are coping hard to see Banjo and Conker return after so long to proper form. They'll imagine any crazy scenario that allows it to happen even though Nintendo doesn't really give a shit and Microsoft just wants Rare to either work on Sea of Thieves, or they'll find them work on other stuff.

Remember, before they finally were able to do Sea of Thieves, they were stuck doing Xbox Miis or whatever they were called during the 2000s.

>>715033068
This. Big fish eats other fish and becomes bigger fish that eventually get's eaten by even BIGGER fish.

And the dragons of Microsoft aren't giving up those IPs so someone MAYBE might do something good with 'em.

>>715032913
After the Timeplitters series, what have they done since?

>>715032913
The goldeneye guys didn't even know how to make a fucking video game before they made it.

>>715032580
They were going to, that's what the deal would have done. They got yeeted at the 11th hour.

a banjo cartoon by patrick star ahow alumni. I kid you not

>>715033184
It depends on if Microsoft needs extra cash or don't care
They sold Hi-Fi Rush but still maintained availability through their systems

Rare is gone
You're never getting another Scrimblo Brimblo platformer from them again and that's a GOOD thing.

>>715033385
>patrick star ahow
I've seen that show at my parents' since they still have cable, and that shit makes me fucking anxious. There's too much retarded bullshit happening all at once.

I think if Nintendo has interest in Rare then it would have been their talents. But those talents are long gone. Personally I'd poach the talents instead of the IPs to work on legacy or new Nintendo IP.

>>715033385
Rare doesn't make their own cartoons
They collaborated with 4kids over Viva Pinata but never from a full production stand point
Just making sure game mechanics could be learned from watching the show

>>715033463

a banjo cartoon by patrick star show alumni. I kid you not

>>715033495
What studio?

>Starting work early on a 3D platformer for the N64
>Your coworkers get ahead of your team and steal your spotlight
>Having to spend the entire console generation restarting game development to stand out
>Flopping anyway

>>715033107
>Kinect was fifteen years ago
They never bounced back from that.

>>715029232 (OP)
Nothing new, they'll be stuck updating Sea of Thieves until the game shuts down and then Microsoft will shut them down too.

>>715033595

hasnt been decided yet. they're holding off greenliting it to pair it with a game

>Buy rare because they're the ones who make all the good games that Nintendo didn't like because *allegedly* it made them jealous
>get them for cheap because of the latter reasoning
>they put out a garbage shovelware tier horror game as their first title on Xbox and a few middling to decent sequels to their old titles but nothing nowhere near the same level as they did with the 64 era games.
>Have them make games for your failing motion control peripheral
>it ends up tanking the system's sales to the point you bury it and sell it without the peripheral
>"whatever just have them make their dumb pirate game"
Kind of amazing honestly not only did they buy the golden goose but they completely reversed its ability to lay golden eggs right after the sale

They know what the fuck they're doing and it's why they're one of Microshits only profitable studios. They just opened a new building. They've always been secretive about their shit. Let them them cook, even if it means they're doing absolutely nothing.

Is this the Rare thread?

Rare should have told Nintendo to fuck off after Donkey Kong Country and made their own console competitor during the N64 or GameCube era
They had the talent and capital to do so

>>715033754
>get them for cheap because of the latter reasoning
Literally the most expensive game studio acquisition of the era.

>>715033750
The game got cancelled last week

>>715033890
Nobody there knew how to make hardware

>>715033838
Snoy level coping

>>715034084
They literally had millions of dollars worth of state of the art equipment to make the Donkey Kong Country games and reverse engineered the N64 to the point where even Nintendo couldn't keep up

>>715033754
>same level as they did with the 64 era games
Viva Pinata

Why did Microsoft get into gaming and buy up gaming studios if they don't want to make and release games? Where's the sense in that?

>>715034084
>>715033890
They backwards engineered the SNES and nintendo immediately bought 24% of their shares. They then bought 49% and sat on them till they sold off probably for this reason.

>>715034381
AI slop became the next biggest hit and you can get H1B Indians to do it for pennies on the dollar

>>715032669
It's okay
It was just something that was ruminating in my head

Honestly I'd prefer Rare to get back its independence

>>715034381
Rare wants to make games
They just don't like being stuck on franchises
Microsoft in theory could make a studio that could inherit those franchises like 343 did for Halo but we all know that turned out
Oh wait, they did do that. They chose Perfect Dark, couldn't deliver, and did

>>715032943
Nah you guys aren't that dumb (most of the time)
The fucking twitterfags (especially the ones who post screencaps for money) though

>>715034562
>>715034381
At the time Nintendo was weak and microsoft was seeking to dominate the market Nintendo wasn't going for. It was basically microsoft and sony vs each other with nintendo making "microsony at home (literally they even finally upgraded to discs and the only reason they did it is because sony wouldnt profit off it) type console and games. Microsoft and sony were pushing genuine innovations in gaming and Iwata was trying to keep up with Reggie's salesmanship. Hiroshi had to come back to bail them out with Wii/DS and Iwata almost killed that too.

>>715034757
They were "independent" until Microsoft. Really they would bend and do whatever asked for the money, which in the case of microsoft was "do nothing because we have halo and CoD, also here's some money for a new building". All they had to do was put up rainbow flags.

>>715030225
>Does anyone actually care?
Honestly I just wanted to see them make a new game because frankly a lot of the infamy of the Microsoft era came from four things
A. Their initial games post-buyout being changed drastically due to development issues during the transition
B. Rare not making sequels people wanted out of their own choice
C. Kinect
Rare weren't bad devs even during the Xbox era, they just couldn't live up to their creative peak when game development was still cheaper and they could have multiple teams on multiple projects releasing projects at a break neck pace.
Sea of Thieves wasn't interesting to me because I don't care for live service games but Everwild seemed like a solid step in the right direction, something that could finally remind people that Rare still "got" it.

100 season of Sea of Thieves. That or license out their IPs again which they did briefly for a while. They sure aren't going to be releasing a new original game any time soon.

>>715029538
Not gonna happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t_Co0gfj18

>>715038112
I kind of want Rare to just finish and release Twelve Tales of Conker as it was intended considering the amount of work they put on it
And have a newgame+ changing the whole script where it's the Bad Fur Day incarnations speaking

>>715029232 (OP)
Viva Pinata 3: The Last Hope

>>715029232 (OP)
Hopefully bankruptcy.

>>715033838
>They just opened a new building.
Are you talking about barn x?
That was last year but yeah, I get that's relatively recent

>>715029232 (OP)
Did Greg Mayles finally quit? If so, all of old Rare is gone.

>>715042040
Louise O'Connor is also leaving

>>715042040
Yeah, left like a couple weeks ago.

>>715042476
Who was that?

>>715042547
Beri's voice actress who helped animate on Conker
She was one of Everwild's executive producers

>>715042714
Ah OK. Well, MS will probably shut down all of Rare before too long and replace them with Indians and AI.

Hey apparently Sea of Thieves is getting a big announcement tomorrow for the next two seasons and beyond
I don't think they'll just say the game is ending cause that'd just be rubbing salt on the wound and Microsoft would be tone deaf to let that slide

>>715029232 (OP)
Microsoft is just gonna keep licensing Banjo to Nintendo for Smash for the inevitable future.
cause we all know that even if Nintendo did buy Rare back in the day or buy them now, they aren't gonna do shit with Rare's IP.
they'll just sit on them like what Microsoft is doing now.
and thanks to the mario mandate, they won't ever have Banjo or Conker appear in any DK games even if Diddy were in them.
even if there were a sequel to Diddy Kong Racing, they'll be excluded

>>715031016
>>Years later Nintendo literally steals the ideas from that same flop for their flagship series and everyone LOVES it
I wish this were true anon, but TOTK is pretty mid.

>>715029232 (OP)
they probably won't ship any games, the same as the last 20 years

microsoft is structured in a way to prevent any games from being made by their studios, it's just how they roll

>>715038532
What lore is this shit?

>>715043261
>last 20 years
Anon, Kameo was almost 20 years ago

>>715043296
he wants Conker to go back to being kid friendly
so he can ship Conker, Banjo, and possibly Diddy

>>715043296
>lore
Wait you don't know about Twelve Tales?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDnvVbdEs7c

>>715029232 (OP)
being shut down

>>715043353
>go back to being kid friendly
Anon, the spoiler text

>>715043390
>>715039610
They won't die as long as Sea of Thieves lives

>>715029232 (OP)
banjo game

surely, right

>>715043839
being a sea of thieves maintence company is the living dead

All they had to do was make Banjo Kazooie games

>>715033964
What was the starting bid?

>>715030225
I was into what they showed in the trailer but they didn't get anything but the trailer done in 10 years so yeah good riddance to everyone who "worked" on that and the director that was allowed to "leave on his own terms" for his continued failure.
At least Sea of Thieves is good and keeps running.

>>715043296
It's the ancient fanfic scrolls, anon. Passed down through GameFAQs forums and deviantArt prophecies. According to legend, once Rare reboots Twelve Tales, the Holy Trinity of 90s mascots-Banjo, Conker, and Diddy-will reunite to bring balance to the IP wars. Only then will the Great Revival patch be released.

OK for real: Why are banjofaggots so fucking unhinged and detached from reality?
>GGUUUUARAAAAAAHHHH NINTENDO NEEDS TO BUY RARE
>MS FORCED rare to do the well received and massively selling Kinect games despite saying otherwise because....?
>They totally wouldn't have spammed a flood of wii waggle shovelware if they were still under Nintendo!
Sea of Thieves is not real lalalalala my beary asspussy is so hairy and crusty!
>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE I am so autistic and need my childhood being sold back to me please please please make the hurt stop

mayles said he just wasn't interested in making another banjo. perhaps he was just burnt out from 3D platformers and he doesn't want to make them anymore

>>715043261
>microsoft is structured in a way to prevent any games from being made by their studios
They just released 3 good games this year and many last year?

>>715047108
they did? I know obsidian are still able to make games but none of the other studios seem to do anything

>>715029232 (OP)
100 years of sea of thieves

>>715046971
Because they spent years actually thinking Banjo Threeie was gonna be a thing

>>715029232 (OP)
Stuck in the sea of thieves mines, then sea of thieves 2
Supporting other Devs to put sea of thieves sailing and water into their games

I don't even like Banjo Tooie and the former Rare devs at Playtonic made something even worse, I doubt there's anyone who could make a game that recaptures the qualities of Banjo Kazooie.

>>715047002
Pretty much

>>715029232 (OP)
>What's next for Rare?
be bought by electronic arts and fade into nothingness in one year

Reminder that Iwata killed the power Nintendo of America had in the 90s.

From 1990-2000. Nintendo of America had production and management autonomy from Japan. NOA basically culminated its own production team, along a few co-designers, and started funding and producing games with developers.

>DMA Design: Uni Racers, Body Harvest (Nintendo dropped it in 1997, Midway took it)
>Angel Studios: Ken Griffey Baseball, Buggie Boogie (canceled)
>Bits Studios: Warlocked, Riqa (canceled)
>Rare: Donkey Kong Country, Killer Instinct, Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark
>Software Creations: Ken Griffey Baseball, Tin Star
>Silicon Knights: Eternal Darkness (N64 version)
>Left Field Productions: Kobey Bryant in NBA Courtside, Excitebike 64
>Looking Glass Studio: Mini Racers (canceled)
>Mass Media: Star Craft 64
>H20: Tetrisphere
>Saffire Corp: Nester's Funky Bowling, James Bond 007
>DIC: Super Mario Bros cartoons, Legend of Zelda, Captain N: The Game Master
>Midway: Cruisn Series

Nintendo of America also procured the Ken Griffey and MLBPA license, NHL License, Kobe Bryant and NBA license, PGA license, Disney license, James Bond license, StarCraft license. Star Wars Episode I license. They were producing their own first-party games separate from Nintendo of Japan.

That all changed when Iwata transitioned from Global Marketing Chief to President. NOA Production was killed, and Nintendo of Japan's SPD Department took over all Western development (Star Fox Adventures, Geist, Eternal Darkness GC).

Henry Sterchi, Brian Ullrich, Ken Lobb, Ed Ridgeway, Jeff Hutt, Faran Thomason, and the whole crew left NOA to Microsoft and other developers. Since then, we've seen the Western model we have today. Western developers reporting directly to Japanese management, and pretty much making B/C sequels to Nintendo IPs.

>>715047871

Sea of thieves suck.

>>715029232 (OP)
Hopefully they're shuttered entirely. Rare was never good.

>>715052312

This is INCREDIBLY BASED. If Nintendo didn't rein in NOA, Donkey Kong would be a faggot and Diddy would be his wife.

>>715029232 (OP)
rare was never good after being sold to microsoft
I don't know why anyone hopes for a magic game to come from them
did any come out in the last 20 years?
no they did not

>>715029420
nintendo wouldn't buy

>>715029538
rare wasn't even involved much in the microsoft reboot anyway
I don't want KI without the original creators involved

>>715052929
>Donkey Kong would be a faggot
NOJ already did that

>>715052312
>That all changed when Iwata transitioned from Global Marketing Chief to President. NOA Production was killed, and Nintendo of Japan's SPD Department took over all Western development (Star Fox Adventures, Geist, Eternal Darkness GC).
Based Iwata.

Nintendo doesn't need any of Rare's shit.

>Splatoon is a shooter that is bigger than Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini and Goldeneye combined.

>Mario Kart is infinitely bigger than Diddy Kong Racing.

>Mario is infinitely bigger than Banjo.

I'm 100% sure if you ask anyone at Nintendo in Japan who Rare is, they will say, "Who the fuck is that"?

>>715029420
The only thing I can see them wanting from rare is banjo kazooie and dkc and they already have one of them, I fail to see why they’d want the actual devs at this point, especially since a good portion of the team that made those original beloved games have left the company

>>715046971
>blocky pixelated stubs typed this post

>>715053847
>not even a smash thread and you're still seething about steve being superior to banjo
kek he really mindbroke you guys huh

How long until Gregg Mayles joins his little brother at Playtonic?
>>715031016
kek