Thread 715066794

drip? attitude? occupation? all of the above?
he's essentially the Han Solo of Final Fantasy

he was a homo
basch was the chad

>>715066794 (OP)
Charisma
He's the leading man after all

Director's self insert who badly wanted a James Bond type of lady's man in the series for the longest time.

>>715066863
Motion capture looks so awkward in these low poly games

>>715066794 (OP)
He's him, to put a lazy reply. Awesome character and awesome VA.

>>715066794 (OP)
>"Prince" of a noble family
>Massively wealthy with enormous resources
>Father is a genius (teaches son)
>Father is the most important man to the emperor
>Character is parred with a Playboy Bunny
>Character is (ENG) voiced by phenomenal actor
Anyone in-universe recognizes him as a man with huge influence and talent.
Anyone playing the game finds him entertaining to see and hear.

Plus he shoots a magic shotgun.

>>715066853

>muh twin brother

>>715067132
Eh, it's from the PS2 so I'm willing to let it slide
It looked great for its time

>>715067132
You think a 2 meter tall lanky furry bunny girl and an Egyptian male doing a "fist bump" is cool if done in real-life?

>>715066853
Bach fucking sucks, he's almost as much of a non-charactee as Vaan.

>>715066794 (OP)
I'd want to be him if I wasn't sure he sucks cocks recreationally. Like even a 20% chance of not being gay would have been enough.

>>715066853
>basch was the chad
Al-Cid was the only Chad of FFXII

The nose shadows in that game are so goddamn weird

His dad.

>>715067521
I see this, and wonder if >>715067459 is actually correct.

>>715067550
Al-Cid is a different guy than Doctor Cid

>>715067448
So you're saying he isn't in a casual relationship with Fran when offscreen? Would you want it then?

>>715067475
>nose shadows
No, you're misconstruing "cheek blushing." It's a desert landscape.

>>715067636
sadly a beard

>>715067636
If I believed he was fucking the tall bunnygirl wearing almost nothing, I wouldn't be calling him gay now would I?

>>715066794 (OP)
>chad
He's an unironic fag that has to constantly seek reassurance that he isn't being upstaged by fucking Vaan of all people

>>715067950
I'd take that chance for Fran

>>715067183
You forgot the coolest part:
>he is a sky pirate

>>715066794 (OP)
Am I right? I am. Aren't I?

>>715066794 (OP)
>drip
Shut the fuck you, you ginormous faggot.

>>715068756
he really does have that shit on fr fr no cap tho

>>715068756
Drip is gonna stick around in the way that swag stuck around, best to not swim against the tide anon.

>>715067389
He's supposed to be egyptian? Why is he whiteish?

>>715068756
you are your parents

>>715066794 (OP)
>has hot bunnygirl GF
>every doujin has him rape Larsa

>>715067475
god she's so fucking hot i need to plap larsa and put a fucking baby inside of her

DON'T TRUST ONDORES LIES!

>>715066853
>homo
>literally fucks a feral sexo bunny

>>715075264
he is homo because he DOESNT fuck the bunny

>>715066794 (OP)
Bravado, I guess. By rights he's a fucking loser and a failure at life. To the point that idiots actually take his "I'm the leading man" insistence as some kind of actual relevance, when he's literally Just Some Guy who's got basically no personal stakes in the story whatsoever and is just vibing the entire time.

its the gun. anyone who uses a gun in fantasy wins by rule of cool

>>715075264
>has gay little earring
>has ZERO(0) half viera children
>talks like a fag
>has daddy issues like a fag
>had a posh private education (notoriously full of sodomy)

>>715075828
>he DOESNT fuck the bunny
that's a cope

>>715076497
Show even a single line that says he fucks the bunny
I can show you so many scenes of him not fucking the bunny

>>715076840
that's behind the scenes, they can't show bunny girl sex in christian manga games

>>715069693
>Why is he whiteish?
Looks like you fell for one those jewish tricks.

>>715076935
>that's behind the scenes
Cope, you literally made this up
Games can still contain implied sex without directly showing it

>>715076935
That is cope
Show where it's even suggested that their relationship goes beyond sky piracy partners

>>715076935
A major plot point of the sequel revolved around how a dude fucked a bunny girl so many times that it created a new race

>>715076497
Cope harder, anon. She literally follows him around the entire game moaning about honor and duty like a Tolkien tsundere. You think she’s hanging off that dude’s airship for the fresh Ivalician air? Please. Sky pirate pipe game is canonically strong.

Nabudis has fallen
AND I CAN'T GET UP

>>715066794 (OP)
>stylish as fuck
>charismatic as fuck
>soothing and confident voice
>has a hot viera gf
>is a motherfucking sky pirate
>uses pistols, aint got time for that nerd magic shit
I don't care what anyone else says, this dude is a gigachad deluxe and one of the best characters in the whole FF franchise

>>715066794 (OP)
>he's essentially the Han Solo of Final Fantasy
He owns the ship that they fly around in and has a gun, that's the end of the Han Solo similarities

>>715077396
He's the worst gun wielder in the party

>>715075960
>no stakes
Why do people say this? Baltheir does have a stake. Namely Al-Cid. The war effort and the creation of the Manufacted Nethicite was founded on Al-Cid's invention. Which Venat inspired and Vayne capitalized on. Balthier ran away and did his own thing similar to how Fran ran away from the forest. Not to say Balthier could've stopped Al-Cid on his own. But he does feel responsibility towards the nightmare Archades is manufacturing. And assisting Ashe in taking back her country offers an opportunity to amend his perceived mistake. How is that not a stake in the main plot?

>>715077396
he was a nerdy white-mage in my playthrough though

>>715069839
you say that like it's an insult
sorry your parents are lame fags

>>715069839
What the fuck did he mean by this?

>>715077703
Once again, Al-cid is a different person seeking to foster peace between Archades and Rozarria

>>715076431
>has gay little earring
drip, nigga, you might know it when you see it if you ever had any
>has ZERO (0) half viera children
so his pullout game on point, peak hetero
>talks like a fag
again, my nigga, you might know verbal drip when you hear it if you didn't sound like the great mighty poo
>has daddy issues like a fag
you would know what it's like to live in the shadows of a great man if you had a father around
well, not you, you'd know what it was like to live in the shadow of a faggot
but fatherless behavior all the same
>had a posh private education (notoriously full of sodomy)
imagine being such a poor that you mythologize public education

so in short, you see a chad and project your own failings onto him. you are the fag you pretend Balthier is

>>715077917
Where does it say that? Because I recently played the game. Al-Cid was primarily working with Venat for knowledge's sake. Venat was working to break humanity away from the machinations of the Occuria. And Vayne wanted the advanced technology Cid was making to destroy Rozzaria and make himself the new Dynast-King of Ivalice

>>715066853
People pretend that Basch was lame because they can’t understand chivalry and kindness. That’s why they latch onto QUIP man. I like Balthier but Basch is based as fuck. All knightly character's are.

>>715077703
First of all, Dr. Cidolfus Demen Bunansa is a completely different character from Al-Cid Margrace, so quit with the "Al-".
Second: Balthier does not have any stakes with his father OR Venat. Balthier abandoned these as responsibilities. Even when you face Cidolfus in combat, he's got nothing to actually say about the situation other than a general bafflement that Venat is real and his father wasn't just talking to himself the whole time. He does not have anything to do with the development of Nethicite, nor does he have any actual investment in shutting it down, nor does he bear the sins of Archades in general. He washed his hands of it, cast off his judge's armor, and left to be a sky pirate, not a rebel leader.
That Ashe ultimately ends up bringing down Vayne and forcing Archades into a ceasefire is ultimately incidental to Balthier, it is not something Balthier ever lifted a finger to actually make happen. He watched it happen, he approved of it, but he was not an agent in this sequence of events.

>>715077695
>>715077729
I don't care.

>>715066794 (OP)
He is lame. He calls himself the leading man and yet its clear Basch and Ashe were more important. And what annoys me about Balthier is that he's one of the few characters that is important to the story and yet....he doesn't care about his relevance.

Balthier discovered his father was not insane and doesn't care about the details involving Venat the otherworldly deity that derailed his family. This makes Balthier a hollow piece of nothing. Didn't care about the bastard and he is a bastard when you think about it, he chose to be fatherless. I really wanted him and Fran to get killed off so their airship could be stolen.

>>715066853
FPBP, balthier is just a poser

>>715077703
He gets dragged into the plot that he never wanted anything to do with because he wants a shiny bauble and only gains some kind of importance when it's revealed way later that he is a former judge and related to Cid. These revelations don't actually matter though because they have nothing to do with why he's involved and if he had his way would never have been revealed at all. Remove the part where Cid is his dad and no interaction between Cid and the party would actually have to change because it's such an unimportant detail, it just had to be included because Balthier had literally nothing else to keep him involved in Ashe's story.

>>715066863
What is this face trying to convey?

>>715078107
No. Al-Cid is a different character. He is from Rozarria. You meet him at Mt. Bur-Omisace speaking with the Gran Kiltias. His name is Al-Cid Margrace.

>>715066794 (OP)
He should've scored with the princess. He deserved it.

>>715078186
Not an agent to the sequence of events? So I guess the Strahl just appeared from the aether? FF12 has issues with character and an overfocus on plot but to say Balthier just didn't give a fuck? The whole reason he locked in on Larsa at the Lushu Mines was because Larsa whipped out Manufacted Nethicite, which pissed Balthier off because he knew only one person in the world could've made that. And the fact an Archadian prince had it meant the Empire was going to use it for something. Which put him on a collision course with his father who, surprise, isn't a crazy person

>>715078107
this is Al-Cid, not Dr. Cid.

>>715067407
The problem with the characters of the story for FF12 is that none of them besides Ashe behave like how a human being would react to their situation. Ashe lost her kingdom so she's lashing out like a bitch wanting revenge and is willing to be rude even to her allies because she wants that revenge. The other characters are soulless dolls.

And the only character I liked in the story was Vayne because he's the true hero and liberator of humankind. He is the only one who truly fought against the true villains of the story. I just hate the bullshit contrived reasons to force him to be a villain that everyone in the world wanted to kill. Pure shit. And its also why I don't like the story of Final Fantasy 12. You treat the real hero like trash its a thoroughly unpleasant experience.

>>715075828
She's just chewbacca

>>715078082
This was funny, thanks for the kek, anon

>>715066996
He wasn't much of a ladies man at all. It was explained that Balthier and Fran have been together long enough to feel burned out. In the credits they show an artwork of young Balthier and Fran and they were more livelier. Balthier was a crashed burned out older man who did not want to see reality that he's not the top tier man he advertises himself as.

>>715078638
>Not an agent to the sequence of events? So I guess the Strahl just appeared from the aether?
Sir, are you suggesting that owning a car that the war hero drives in makes you important? The Strahl is a vehicle. It could be replaced by any other. It was a convenience, but it sure as shit isn't an act of agency on Balthier's part.
>The whole reason he locked in on Larsa at the Lushu Mines was because Larsa whipped out Manufacted Nethicite, which pissed Balthier off because he knew only one person in the world could've made that. And the fact an Archadian prince had it meant the Empire was going to use it for something.
That's good exposition, yes, but certainly not agency. He knew what it was and what it meant. It doesn't mean he got to do anything about it, Ashe was still the one who made all the decisions.

>>715077826
Everyone becomes this at some point

>>715078673
How can you say Ashe is acting out like a bitch while also acknowledging her motivation for being a bitch make sense? That's not being a bitch, that just proper rage against a catastrophic event. Vayne was willing to kill far more for far less

>>715078673
Ashe had bad motives but ultimately made the right decision.
Vayne had good motives but ultimately made the wrong decisions.
Liberating the world from the Occuria is good. Subjugating the planet with the might of the Sky-Fortress Bahamut is wrong. Doing a good deed does not give you carte blanche to conquer the world with a city-destroying superweapon.

>>715078847
Balthier is just a dude. He doesn't have legacy inheritances like Ashe who has birthright to nuclear rocks and magic golems. I'm not saying Balthier should've been the main character, this is ultimately Ashe's story. But he is a proper supporting character who has personal reason to stick with her besides plot.

>>715066863
The joke is he wasn't, though...

>>715078638
>So I guess the Strahl just appeared from the aether?
The Strahl is involved because Balthier couldn't take a rock from a street urchin and instead had to help him escape. From that moment onwards it was just a series of extensions until it reached a point where he accepted that the party had free use of his ship. He's basically a sky chauffeur, he's not going to anywhere because he feels compelled to but because he's told that they all need to go somewhere.

>>715079068
And that's what I mean about contrived bullshit reasons to force Vayne to be the villain of the story. Just didn't like this frankly shitty story. Final Fantasy 12 deserves its infamy and failure. Shitty game. It really is plainly a shitty game. The real sad thing is Final Fantasy continues as a franchise anyway those fanboys love eating shit even now in current year.

>>715078904
It might be understandable but she was still being a bitch. That's why she couldn't be behaving the same way at the end.

>>715079152
he could have just left at any time, nigga, he had the keys to the Strahl
he chose to stick around
wasn't even for ass, he was getting that from the bunny bitch

why bother? why put himself in harms' way again and again and again when he could have just been like "uh, yeah, you guys go on ahead, I dropped the keys under the flooring and i gotta get them back out. fran, i need your help here" and just peaced the fuck out as soon as the rest of the party had fucked off?

>>715079152
If it was just that then Balthier could've just fucked off after he saved Penelo. Which, if it were just about robbing King Raminas, he would've done. He went with Ashe to the Raithwall's Tomb. He'd gotten all the material gain he wanted, so for him to stick around means it goes beyond that. He's not just Appa with an accent.

Reminder that in the trashed sequel Ashe and Basch get together but Basch has to go save the world and Ashe gets mad he doesn’t stay and cucks him with Larsa and Basch dies.

>>715079098
He SHOULD have personal reasons to stick with her besides the plot but he doesn't. The reasons are right there but he has willingly cast them aside.

>>715079402
Contrived how? Vayne flattened Nabradia and had Dalmasca's king killed during a peace treaty signing. Ashe and friends were supposed to let that slide because you like him?

>>715079660
Roosevelt flattened Imperial Japan with nuclear fire, yet we're supposed to believe he was the good guy because Hitler was making Jewish Spring soap

sometimes good people do bad things to fulfill a greater good

>>715079660
Not to mention killing Ashe's fiance.

>>715079820
Godwin's law fulfilled, thread over

>>715079820
Your example doesn't work because Dalmasca/ Nabradia weren't aggressors in a war that got then smacked with a big stick. Archades wanted to stomp over them both to kill their real enemy Rozzaria. In fact your example is doubly stupid because Archades was in Nabudis to get the Nethicite that was passed down to them. VAYNE WAS ROBBING THEM! And you're mad at Ashe for fighting back?

>>715079489
>>715079492
He explicitly stuck around for pay. The closest he gets to appearing to actually care about the situation is when Fran wants her sister to be saved.

>>715066794 (OP)
he is the leading man

>>715080097
His "pay" was fulfilled after they left Raithwall's Tomb. Once they escaped the Ifrit, Balthier wasn't on the hook anymore. If he didn't care, he could've told Ashe

>Welp, I'm happy for you or I'm sorry that happened. I'm off to wherever the hell gets me away from your drama

>>715079820
Just to be clear here in your analogy is Hitler on the side supported by all but one of the gods?

>>715078807
>Balthier was a crashed burned out older man
He's fucking 22.

All the kingdoms surrounding Dalmasca were vassals of Dalmasca for a thousand years.

>>715080378
why waste a post just to repeat what he said

>>715080398
Technically for 400 years. 90 years during Raithwall's reign and, I think, 300 afterwards before Ivalice split into the 4 major factions

>>715080224
So why did he stick around? Because if it had anything to do with feeling some kind of responsibility due to his past and his family then he would have told everyone what he knew then and there. Instead he didn't reveal what he knows and seemingly only stayed because if he left it would mean admitting that he was an unimportant side character.

>>715079510
Based desu, Larsa was a real bro

>>715080736
He’s a shitter who cucked his bro. Fuck him.

>>715080967
His bro was fucking with ayy lmaos in the closet. Larsa was doing what he had to for the good of the human race.

>>715080398
The Galtean Alliance broke up centuries ago, Dalmasca was one of the lands ruled over by Raithwall's fractured lineage, Nabradia was another. It's why they were each given shards to look after

>>715080696
you misunderstand the 'leading man' schtick, anon, that was his cover for actually giving a shit about the situation. instead of being dragged along by fate, he took charge of himself with the 'im the leading man' bit. it's a way of saying 'it is what it is' with more aura.

and no, he would not have been like "oh yeah btw i'm related to the guy personally responsible for about 85% of the bullshit we've been through including Basch and Ashe's imprisonment and the death of Ashe's fiancé as well as the conquest of the kingdom she was due to inherit" because it's not inconceivable that Ashe would have struck his ass down then and there as a way of injuring the people she blamed for her woes.

>>715078673
Wouldn't Venat be the true hero and liberator of mankind? Vayne was just a pawn of a greater power, one that had been fighting to free the world from the machinations of the Occuria since long before Vayne was even born.

>>715080696
Since when does Balthier spill his guts openly. That would've been out of character for him. One of the few times Balthier allows himself to be sincere, Fran mocks him for it because she knows that's not the way he normally behaves. Why didn't he tell the party his relationship to Cid? Because it's not in his personality to do that. The same way it's not in Ashe's personality to make peace with Vayne even though it would ostensibly put her back on Dalmasca's throne.

>are told the Zodiac are evil incarnate
>free the Zodiacs because FUCK THE EMPIRE
>100 years late pass
>Zodiacs blow up the world and send the advanced civilization to the stone age
Our heroes! Great job!

>>715081161
He's not related to the guy directly responsible for all that, he's related to a scientist that works for that guy and as far as Balthier knows is a literal schizo. He has no good reason to keep that he was ever a judge from them, that he's Archadian and certainly not what he knows about manufactured nethicite. He keeps any relevance that he might have a secret for as long as he possibly can, he actively keeps himself out of the plot wherever possible. His past is potentially extremely useful information to a group looking to wage a war with the Empire but he doesn't actually give a shit.

>>715081630
To their credit, the Occuria wanted Ashe to turn Archades, and all the people in it, into a parking lot. If that was their end goal then they'd have reason to not trust that the Espers were crazed monsters that would kill everything around them

>>715077703
>Fran is tall as fuck and still wears double-heel stiletos
Gaddamn

>>715081668
>he's related to a scientist who works for that guy
and that scientist was directly responsible for creating the technology and tools that both enabled and drove the guy who did the actual devastation. the fact that Balthier thinks Cid's insane is even more reason to keep it secret, because they'd expect him to immediately take them to him, presumably to kill or imprison him. if he thought his dad was crazy, he wouldn't necessarily hold him liable for his actions and the outcomes therefrom.

and, despite it all, that's his dad and his homeland. he surely wouldn't want to bring them undue harm at the hands of a bunch of (reasonably) pissed off misfits who were personally maligned, whether or not they were responsible for the suffering of those misfits. and he wouldn't have been able to reveal anything about manufacted nethicite without also revealing how he came by that knowledge, looping back around into the above.

would YOU lead a bunch of angry murderhobos to your crazy dad's doorstep because he did some shit in his schizo fugue that fucked up their lives, or would you just keep that shit under your hat?

>>715081164
Venat was basically keeping mankind under the thumb of an Occuria, he just didn't agree with all the other Occuria
All the Occuria really do is push someone to become great and then let what will happen happen
If Venat had never gotten involved with Vayne then they would probably still just be watching

>>715082230
He long since denounced his father and his homeland, when the truth comes out he sheepishly cares more that everyone knows his secret than he does about whether they'll want to kill his dad who none of them would have immediately blamed in the first place. Yeah he designed and constructed weaponry that helped Archades steamroll Dalmasca and Nabradia, did they ever express anger at the person who built the Dreadnought Leviathan or did they just hate Ghis who was in command of it?
Balthier doesn't even leave out some key details of his life, he just shares NONE of the critical information that he posesses until he has absolutely no choice because the story has dragged it out of him. I'm 90% sure that making him Cid's son was added when someone in the writer's room asked why Balthier is still in the game.

>>715082230
>that's his dad and his homeland
he abandoned his dad and homeland not once but twice each

>>715081630
>free the Zodiacs because FUCK THE EMPIRE
What?

>>715083114
you're conflating knowledge after the fact with his reasoning before they knew. he couldn't have known whether they'd blame his father or not, and since they didn't, the next worst thing for Balthier is having his secrets out in the open, which sucks for anybody.

further, the difference between the guy who built the Dreadnaught Leviathan and Dr. Cid is that if the guy who built the Leviathan hadn't done his job, someone else would have been brought in that could have. nobody else could have done what Dr. Cid did, at least not within the same time frame. It's the same reason why we know Oppenheimer's name but nobody gives a single shit about the name of the crew chief who oversaw the construction of the Enola Gay.

>>715084040
abandoning your responsibilities is not the same as abandoning your love for the people to whom you are responsible, even if it is little more than sentimentality at that point. Balthier didn't want the responsibility of saving his home, or of dealing with his dad, but I doubt very much that he'd want either of them to suffer without good reason, which hadn't really been forthcoming to that point. It's why he was fine chasing around Vayne, because getting rid of Vayne would have spared his homeland.

>>715082116
she wears them to really get her ass popping, which works to fantastic effect.

>>715084815
Zodiacs is the real name for the espers you collect in the game. Hence Zodiac Age for the HD version. You bring the zodiac age in FFXII because the gods abandon humans to fight off the Zodiacs which ruin the world which results i the backwards world of Final Fantasy Tactics.

>>715081630
>seriously mentioning tactics
The connection is tenuous beyond some shared names and such. The shared timeline between 12, Tactics, and Vagrant story is just the result of marketing and should otherwise be treated with all the seriousness of Zelda's timeline.

>>715085237
Also Oppenheimer expressed regret for what he did. Because he handed humanity the means to truly destroy itself and perhaps the world we live in. Cid created the Manufacted Nethicite and was like

>FUCK YEAH! REMEMBER NABUDIS? WELL WE'RE GONNA GO THAT AGAIN BUT WITH EVERY SHOT FROM THE BAHAMUT'S CANNONS!

>>715085863
was Oppenheimer possessed by an otherworldly spirit too? i missed that part of the movie, must have been when i got up to take a shit

>>715066794 (OP)
He's just like Han Solo. You start out playing as Van (Luke) and then you bump into Balthier (Han Solo) and he just steals the spotlight for the rest of the journey.

>>715085772
They are more connected than FFX and FFX-2.

>>715069693
>He's supposed to be egyptian? Why is he whiteish?
Because Egyptians are white-ish.

>>715086187
It's not about being possessed. It's about how Cid reacted to it. If I gave you, the anon writing this post, information on how to invent technology 2000 years more advanced than what exists in the current age. And you saw this tech had the capability to vaporize life by the millions. Would you

A. React in fear. Understanding that this massive amount of power must be wielded responsibly and with maturity

Or

B. Treat it like you found your Dad's gun in the closet. And run out into your backyard shooting squirrels because you love the incredible power you now have

Cid wasn't insane because he was being haunted by Venat. He was insane because he wielded knowledge and power with no regard for life. He's an off brand Hojo.

>>715066853

Meanwhile Balthier goes home and fucks this every night and doesn't even give a shit who Basch even is.

Basch ends the game where Balthier started ten years before he started doing what he wanted to do. In servitude to the Empire.

>>715086740
if you really don't think that having some omnipotent spirit nigger fucking with your head for decades wouldn't change your perceptions and desires, you are being disingenuous as fuck.

and i would C: use it to hold the world hostage, Dr. Evil style. wipe out Archadia first, then make the rest of the lesser nations pay tribute under threat of vaporization.

>>715072273
>she
uh...

>>715087905
The Occuria don't make you crazy. Case in point Ashe. Even with the Occuria waving around Rasler's ghost in front of her, it didn't change her personality. AT BEST you can argue it kept the rage she already had at the Empire alive in hopes it would drive her towards what the Occuria wanted. But Ashe was still able to refuse it. And even dispel the illusion. You don't turn into a psycho just because the Occuria hang around. Cid's fall was voluntary. He became a piece of shit because he was a piece of shit. Venat just empowered him with the means to do what he always wanted to do.

has someone bothered to make a BIG mod for FFXII? like adding new weapons and areas? I swear I'd kill for more content for this game.

>>715088678
I concede your point about Cid, but I don't think it changes anything about Balthier's relationship with him. Lots of people have shitty people for fathers, and they still love them. Do you think Oppenheimer's kids loved him, despite the fact that he was personally responsible for both the devastation of Japan and the Cold War directly after?

>but he had regret
okay, but having regret doesn't change the fact that he effectively murdered millions and plunged the world into hell for half a century.

>>715090626
Well the problem is intent. Both Oppenheimer and Cid created weapons of mass destruction. Oppenheimer saw what he did and regretted it because creating an atomic chain reaction on paper is far different than seeing someone drop a Sun right here on Earth. Oppenheimer would never go any further even if he had the ability to. Cid was throbbing at the idea of what he could do with the Nethicite. Nabudis wasn't enough, even the destruction of the Ifrit was entertainment for him. He showed up at Pharros Coast stroking his dick at what would be possible with the Suncryst. If he could make the Bahamut within a few year's time, there's no telling what he would've made if Vayne won that fight. If you want to make the utilitarian argument that it doesn't matter because both created the means to destroy all life, you can do that. But you can't argue that Cid isn't an entirely different branch of evil just for his flippant disregard for anything other than his own curiosity.

>>715079103
Over the duration of the game he takes half of the executive decisions of the entire party. He isn't in full authority but he is still the closest to a leader.

>>715087696
Finally some good content

I want to live in Ivalice, bros.

>>715094001
Granted. It's the FFXIV version.

>>715095292
Guess I'll kill myself.