Thread 715071305

Does HL2 deserve to get its dick sucked to its day?
Genuinely don't see why you should care about it today. Other then running on a dog shit pc and having facial animations, whats so good about it?
shooters have been blowing it out of the water, heck even games around its time id argue were better.
Its a linear hallway with sluggish shooting, basic platforming and dog shit puzzles. The story you get in game works, but theres not much to it other then how its presented, theres isnt that much character dialog. The setting is unique but there isnt enough verity through out the game.
The combat just straight up sucks ass, theres noting to the zombie and antlions and the combine are just spongy and un reactive. the combine ai is nice, but its just a spongy shooting gallery

I seriously cant think of anything but its presentation being good

So why tf do people still circle jerk the game? was it even that good when it came out?

your not allowed to not like the game and its fucking annoying

>>715071305 (OP)
It was a shit game that gave me nausea and motion sickness and it was the first game to introduce Steam DRM instead of just playing games with CD ROM, so yea

>>715071305 (OP)
I think people are changing their mind about it more and more.
I prefer Half Life to HL2, I can't lie, I was wowed at the time by HL2's visuals and effects, and that swung it for a while. But playing them again since, Half Life just wins as a better game. Its not as bogged down as 2 is, particularly with its shit vehicle sections.
Half Life is the classic, 2's just a tech demo riding on its coattails

>>715071305 (OP)
It was a good game for its time simply because there was nothing else like it. At modern game standards, HL2 is a fucking mess. Unironically I have more fun going back and replaying HL1 than I do HL2.

>>715071932
Yah I thought hl1 was just a better game. id why I find the actual game play better.

>>715071932
>>715072128
took the words right out of my mouth ngl
the zen segments of HL1 are still complete shit though but at least not as bad as the boat segment

>>715071305 (OP)
/v/ how do we convince the brainwashed masses HL2 isn't good?

>>715071305 (OP)
the idea of overthrowing a global regime run by a faggy scientist that doesn't let people reproduce is extremely appealing

>>715073096
That's how you know it is still king. If it was irrelevant there wouldn't be weekly threads seething about it 20+ years later.

>>715071305 (OP)
>San andreas
>Halo 2
>Metroid Prime 2
>Sly cooper 2
>snake eater

These were all better games in 04. I didn't know anyone who played this shit back in the day. Unless you were a PC fat then sure you probably think its a masterpiece but lets be honest here. PC had fuck all back in the day.

>>715071305 (OP)
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>715071305 (OP)
You can stop being a faggot or download MMOD, either option fixes the issue you're having.

>>715071305 (OP)
Crysis is genuinely better than it but nobody is ready for this conversation

>>715071305 (OP)
you are schizophrenic

>>715074003
Chronicles of riddick fucks hl2's mom and sister and makes hl2 pay the child support

>>715071305 (OP)
Half life 1 was better, half life 2 took the talking breaks of Hl1 and turned them into the entire game. It only really gets good once you get somewhat swarmed in nova prospekt

>>715071932
>vehicle sections
Everytime I want replay HL2 I remember those and immediately lose any urge to install it again.

>>715073565
This.

>>715071305 (OP)
It is one of the best games of all time.

>>715076620
Still not as good as its precursor.

>>715073565
Then why is there no half assed port to any console past the 360?
only steam users are going around shitting their pants every time any one less then sucks its dick off

yet no one ever actually gives reasons its any fucking good

it almost feels like beetle "fans" who only listened to 2 albums throwing a fit any time some one says they dont give a shit about the beetles. they're more in love with being part of a group with "refined taste", when in reality they are the most plebeian bores on earth
except the beetles have lasting merit
hl2 didnt actually do anything new, it hardly did anything better

so why is a game with good presentation and mid and lackluster everything else held in such high regards?
nobody answers that because they dont even like hl2, its just some lame ass circle jerk group

defend any of the shit gameplay, you fucking cant, because theres nothing to say

>>715076676
it's better

>>715076694
defend hl1's shit gameplay and boring levels

>>715076698
How. The gravity gun? The vehicles? The shitty squad management? The ass antlion part?

Halo combat evolved is still the best single player FPS of all time

I never thought about it but I think you're right, OP. For today's standards, the game is trash, even then I never really found the appeal and just figured it wasn't for me

>>715076786
Watch them defend this and tell you "you're just...le baaad" because you're using the shotgun wrong cause obviously it's supposed to not work; while stubbornly shooting at armored combine with the smg in hl2 from 50 feet away and blaming the game for having bullet sponge enemies. Ignoring the HL1 soldiers are way tankier and dont react to shit. At least HL2 has ragdolls to make the gunplay more entertaining than that.

>>715076786
there was more fps level design in that 5 second clip then the entirety of hl2
hl1 was a better shooter. the levels we way more built for engagements
hl2 is just combine stating in the middle of no where in a bland ass city or feild

>>715077194
NO. HL2 kinda fucking sucked, and im tired of being surrounded by fags who can't accept me thinking that.

>>715077071
No, HL2 actually sets up varied and creative encounter designs. Think of the turret defense section. HL1 is just moving through repetitive environments shooting soldiers

>>715071305 (OP)
people like the world and world building what could've been with the Beta stuff.
HL2 is definitely the highest highs and lowest lows of the series with some absolutely stellar design and world building but followed by some bad levels and a combat system that's in desperate need of an overhaul
It sucks too because there's a lot potential but the execution wasn't as good as HL1
I love the game to death though and Highway 17 always gives me a lot of comfy vibes, I replay it every year

>>715077595
HL2 gameplay just sucks, it's just cover based slop with hitscan enemies for 90% of the game, you might as well be playing Call of duty

>>715077726
>it's just cover based slop with hitscan enemies for 90% of the game
its more of a weird in between. I modded the enemies to have higher damage almost on par with the player and its makes it 100x better to play

>>715076810
Yea, the Gravity Gun is still immensely fun to use to this day and always provides you with options, it rewards you for being aware of your enviroment. When you get to the end of the game it lets you go fully wild with it and its the most fun you can have in a shooter.
>the vehicles
They're fine. Once you get to Episode 2 they've learned exactly how to use and structure vehicle segments, to the point where Episode 2 is genuinely the best part of the overall package and it has a shit ton of vehicle usage. Ironically, Episode 1 is the worst of it and somehow manages to be completely on foot.
>the shitty squad management
Its not really well fleshed out but its never an issue that holds the game back? It's more like a mecahnic that you just kind of ignore. You don't really need to care about it and the one time they "force" you to play with it (in episode 1) its all so braindead easy anyway, the hardest part being that sometimes you get rushed by Shotgun Combine while you protect civvies/resistance members.
>the ass antlion part
There's not a single ass antlion part in HL2.

>>715079627
>There's not a single ass antlion part in HL2.
I'll take this back, maybe you mean Episode 1's antlions. They're kinda shit.

>>715079627
>Its not really well fleshed out but its never an issue that holds the game back?
to this day im always getting stuck on NPC's in hallways
wouldn't be so bad if you could kill them outside of ordering them to walk into landmines
>When you get to the end of the game it lets you go fully wild with it and its the most fun you can have in a shooter.
that part would've been a lot better if they gave you your other weapons as well, little replay variety imo, let me go through all the combine at 200 health with only my crowbar or something dumb

>play HL2 in 2025
>it's more fun than 99% of AAA releases from the last 10 years
tho desu the same is true for any 6/10 release from the 00s as well

I liked it
I still play mods for it
cope, seethe and dilate

>>715079875
>to this day im always getting stuck on NPC's in hallways
Maybe I haven't replayed the game enough and I'm lucky but I've never had the issue. I've had them be somewhat unresponsive if I've needed health or something though.
The way I've always seen the Gravity gun in the citadel is releasing the locks from it and giving you something entirely broken. As good as the Gravity gun is outside of the Citadel, you spend a lot of time in the streets with more conventional weapons, the Gravity gun around the middle of the game becomes a puzzle solver because you're joined up with the resistance and have more ammo and a wider variety of guns. That last level is essentially flipping the rug over to clean it like you have for years but never flipping it back over just because you think it suddenly looks better on the other side.

Episode 1 I totally understand the complaints for, opening is strong and then completely goes downhill with focus on HL2's weakest areas.

>>715079627
>not as single ass antlion part
Ha, good joke.

>>715071305 (OP)
it was a mix of tech, being a sequel to half life, being the first main title for steam that would then take off as we all know. this all wowed people to dick ride a mediocre game
>>715076786
why are you just standing there, do you only have one arm ? can you only use the mouse OR the keyboard lmaooo

>>715071305 (OP)
It's the modern PCfags' first moviegame (which are okay and good when Valve makes them). It's a complete slog to actually play nowadays thanks to all the forced cutscenes.

>>715073047
What type of fag thinking is that?

>>715080932
>That last level is essentially flipping the rug over to clean it like you have for years but never flipping it back over just because you think it suddenly looks better on the other side.
yeah maybe its due to replaying it too much. Wish someone would make a version of Hl2 that refreshes it for long time fans. People say Mmod does that but it really doesn't add a whole lot and some of that mod's design is highly questionable

>>715071305 (OP)
i love the aesthetic of hl2 and the world & setting
shame the writing is literal flaming dogshit tho

>>715081430
>Forced cutscenes
sv_cheats 1
noclip

>>715071305 (OP)
It's not even a controversial take to say HL1 is better. Memes and barrels aside, HL1 is just a better all around game and was almost as revolutionary upon it's release. I really like HL2, but HL1 is still one of the best games I've ever played.

>>715081430
>moviegame
I don't think anyone knows what that means anymore.

>>715081430
>It's a complete slog to actually play nowadays thanks to all the forced cutscenes.
Hl2 has more cutscenes than modern games?

>>715076694
maybe because it's a 20 year old game that run on every single computer probably even chromebooks supplied by schools. There's no need for new console ports when it can be played on anything that can be called a computer, phones included

>>715071305 (OP)
HL>HL:A>HL2:E2>HL:OF>HL2>HL:BS>HL2:E1

>>715081613
You have a bad game if you have to disable parts of it to find any fun.
>>715081772
>I don't think anyone knows what that means anymore.
Luckily, I do. A game that forces the player through walk n talk sections where nothing is going on (something HL2 does) is absolutely a moviegame.

>>715073047
just be born 10 years after it released

>>715081816
Worse, it has unskippable cutscenes where you're forced to hold W. Thanks for the "gameplay," Valve.

>>715081908
I guess Halo 2 is a moviegame since it has all those fucking elevators, platforms and setpieces with nothing going on.

>>715081816
Many modern games have skippable cut scenes so kinda.
> Is it as bad stuff like NuGoW or Last of Us?
Again, kinda. Black Mesa East is basically a forced 10 minute cutscene followed by a forced 5 minute tutorial.

>>715081992
>it has unskippable cutscenes where you're forced to hold W
No it doesn't, you can literally just wait it out

>>715082150
No you can't, you have to ""play"" Red Letter Day and Black Mesa East by doing random busy work.

>>715082150
The entire intro of the game is just holding W until you meet Alyx.

>>715082364
you press W the entire game

>>715082059
I didn't like Halo 1 and never played any of the others, so that could be accurate. I don't know.

>>715071305 (OP)
The Combine is one of my all time favorite vidya factions.
But yeah I don't like it as much when replaying it, it kinda just feels like a pile of annoying sections

>>715071305 (OP)
It’s cool but the environments are so stark and ugly and the talking scenes are pointless.

>>715082364
NTA but at least you do mild exploring in the intro and it gets you settled into the world.

Red Letter Day and Black Mesa East or inexcusable though. They are always a slog, put you in a small space and seemingly go on forever as you're forced to listen people you never met before quip at each other.

>>715071305 (OP)
>Does HL2 deserve to get its dick sucked to its day?
Why are there so many ESLs here now?

>>715085568
Smarphones have become accessible to even the poorest thirdies.

>>715082443
And little else, exactly.

>>715071305 (OP)
I've always said HL1 is way better

>>715074526
based

>>715076813
this but Halo 2

>>715076694
>let me tell you why your opinions are wrong
Lel. No. I just like the game is all. It's fun.

>>715071305 (OP)
Zoomer here, played for the first time this year. It's a 7 out of 10. Not bad, but it has too many annoying puzzles and gimmicks to be above that. Fear (2005) mogs it.

>>715081295
>why are you just standing there
Why is the grunt?

Can you faggots spend 5 minutes without of thinking of sucking dicks?

>>715071305 (OP)
Nobody actually likes Half-Soi 2, it's just an "ironic" meme to pretend to like a slow generic hallway shooter set in a gray slav city with gay unskippable cutscenes wasting the player's time with a generic "aliens invade Earth" story.

>>715089423
>Fear (2005) mogs it
FEAR mogs most games. Master class in not wearing out your welcome.
Only weak part is the ghosts at the end being kind of lame.
HL2 actually has a lot of similarities to FEAR in its combat AI, but the combine's health and damage is too low to let it shine. Another anon mentioned modding it to help it out in that regard.
Really, maybe all it needs is a newly balanced difficult level.
I like HL2 though. It works best when the levels reward exploration imo. They should've went with a more open environment. But chalk that up to be a testers being retarded. Probably why the enemy health is nerfed too.

>>715089839
Stop responding to your own thread, it's weird.

>>715073709
Look mom, I posted it again!

>>715090589
Posted facts? Nothing wrong with that anon

>>715071305 (OP)
I love HL1 & 2, but compared to some other games the whole setting just kinda feels depressing and it can make the game offputting.
Everyone makes fun of brownwashed console shooters, but it feels like PC sure had its share of desolate feeling atmospheres.

>>715071305 (OP)
>Does HL2 deserve to get its dick sucked to its day?
Yes

Yeah I recently replayed both HLs and while HL2's forced "cutscenes" especially at the start aged worse, I think there's just a really great sense of pacing and progression to the games.

Replaying it with mmod and better combat encounter mods just elevate it further. Gravity gun is STILL kino qnd I would love to its modern rendition on a n engine that can handle even more physics shit.

It's still fun and pretty.

I look at it like some sort of legacy game. HL was the true classic but HL2 certainly has it's merits. The problem is that so many games have copied HL's ideas ad nauseum so I can relate to anyone playing it now for the first time and judging it as "nothing special". But in it's time these physics based silly puzzles, driving/boating sections etc etc where all brand spanking fresh. The engine itself was a lot of fun to mess around with (no other reason Gmod was born), so it's the kinda game you have to judge in the spirit of the time of release. I still think they are worth playing if you are a younger anon that goes in with the right expections. The game is still interesting enough to hold it's own in current year. There's also something to be said for the episodes, which really are significantly better than the base game. Really focused, thightly knit experiences on those. And Alyx is a masterclass on how to write female support characters. Holds her own, both in gameplay and story but she's not without faults or weaknesses. Her little breakdowns and damsel in distress moments tend to make most players care for her.

HL doesn't have this "nothing special" problem, it still holds up incredibly well and hasn't really been outdone by any other FPS. Making it the true classic HL without a doubt.

>>715071305 (OP)
You had to be there

alf thread

>>715071305 (OP)
Not everything needs to be gacha slop, you ADHD zoomer.

I played hl2 for the first time this year and I thought it was pretty boring compared to the first game, the lack of enemy variety and fun quake-like level design from hl1 were severely missing, also the writing was corny as fuck

>>715073565
yeah forreal. call me gay but this is still my favorite game of all time. play it once a year, every year.

>>715071305 (OP)
>but theres not much to it other then how its presented
I might not like HL2's gameplay but the story is fucking great. One of the few games where there seems to be something much bigger going on that's only hinted at
I suspect the reason hl2 ep3 never happened was that they could never write a satisfying ending. The combine is lovecraftian cosmic horror that the games barely show. Eli was right. epistle 3's ending is lame, a dyson sphere is the least the universe has to worry about

>>715074526
delete this post anon
the people can't know that crysis was the future of immersive fps and that piracy doomed the genre

>>715076786
>standing still in direct line of sight of a hitscan enemy
>call it shit gameplay
nearly had me anon 2/10, next tiem make a webm that looks like you're trying

>>715071305 (OP)
It has Atmosphere. But other than that it's just a butchered Beta: cool enemies cut, maps cut, physgun circumcised to a gravity gun, the world logic thrown to the trash.
And as a bonus the detalisation of the world is shit, it's always some empty boring cuboids with some physics trash inside. The first HL had WAY better maps.

>>715096292
He's taking about bullet sponge enemies. Him dying is irrelevant.

My theory on why people are turning on HL2 is because they never delivered a HL3. The kind of game HL1 innovated on is now unfamiliar to newer players, so going back to it feels fresh. But for HL2 we still haven't moved on from that era of shooter so it feels like nothing new to players these days. Had HL3 come out and successfully pushed shooters in a different direction, players might look at HL2 the same way they look like HL1 today.

>>715100197
no one is turning on HL2 except a handful of contrarian neckbeards on /v/

>>715100870
Those count as people.

>>715100197
>My theory on why people are turning on HL2
It was never good, no one played this shit back in the day when games like snake eater, metroid, pokemon, gta etc were out. PC fats seem to forget that pc was niche compared to consoles and handhelds back then. Simply put. The only people who praised this was pc fats who were starved of good games

>>715071305 (OP)
Degenerate game. Don'√ mention it.

>>715071305 (OP)
>Does HL2 deserve to get its dick sucked to its day?
Yes but only because of the story and technical feats for it's time, that's it.
>linear, combat is basic, puzzles are boring
Correct.
>So why tf do people still circle jerk the game? was it even that good when it came out?
Because the worldbuilding is great. Let me rephrase it in terms your generation understand. HL2 has hella aura and was goated for 2004.

>>715071452
>gave me nausea and motion sickness
no, you are just fucked in the head lmao

People forget that Half-Life 2 was just a tech demo for CS:S, L4D, Portal and TF2. The only reason it was made was because of this. All the story is was to compensate how barebones is.

HL2 was a good game for the time but, just like Halo 2 the design decisions and gameplay systems would become commonplace in the industry over the next 10 years. This ubiquity of copies reflects poorly on the original if you forget that the originals practically invented the modern shooters.

It's great but it's not quite the phenom that the first one was. It was a technical marvel but in the long run it only ended up influencing the industry in superficial ways like everyone needing to put a "gravity gun" in their game for a while whereas the influence of Half-Life 1 is still felt everywhere today.

>>715071305 (OP)
yeah the Beatles suck so much why was everyone into them? It's just a few dudes singing with a guitar or two and some drums literally everyone fucking does that nowadays

is dw fucking terminator still making these threads? fuck me man, I've died and come back to life twice since he's been doing this. I literally have organs newer than this shit, that's how long he's been doing it. You lost, sperg. Half life 2 is a fun 2004 shooter and 15 years of weekly melties won't change that.

>>715105821
they were shilled extremely hard by jewish corps

>>715105912
yeah but the point was that they set a trend for the next sixty years

>>715106137
the whole point of this area was to stock up on supplies and find the rocket launcher. There was a really dumb puzzle and an ambush

>>715071305 (OP)
Source Engine was a mistake
This engine held back so much progress

>>715106557
>Source Engine was a mistake
Yeah, GoldSrc was waaay better.

>>715071305 (OP)
it's overrated and overhated

>>715106557
The Source Engine ran really well and the only limiting factor I ever noticed was that it was the small map sizes. 64 players on a very stable map is pretty good though.

everyone wants this unreal dogshit now but nobody wants Planetside scale

>>715106557

True but only because Valve never bothered to expand in the 2010s to worknon Source 2 earlier