The dark fantasy aesthetic unequivocally peaked with Fromsoftware

No

It already peaked with Berserk 30 years prior

>>715071542 (OP)
If only his bossfight scales with less Anime move bullshit

>>715071735
I'm convinced that at one point From will drop run out of classic Miura Berserk to steal and will reach out for the boat arc and make a cringe pirate themed game.

Wrong.

>>715071542 (OP)
I replayed it to get to the DLC and have soulsfatigue after beating Morgott. The last half of the game is utter dogshit.

>>715071542 (OP)
shadow tower abyss brutally mogs everything that came after it for that aesthetic, let alone moving outside of FROM's catalogue

>>715071542 (OP)
It peaked 40 years ago anon

>>715071542 (OP)
Soulless overdesigned trash.

>>715073439
Beating Morgott and finishing Leyndell is indeed pretty much exactly when the game stops being good and devolves into an unfun slog with shit balance.

>>715071542 (OP)
It's true. A lot can be critiqued but the art, setting, and atmosphere are unmatched.

>>715074602
Is the DLC any good? I'm at the Haligtree just to get leveled up and I really can't be arsed if it's just more of the same.

>>715071542 (OP)
That's not very dark, his hammer is literally glowing.

>>715074673
>setting and atmosphere
I'm honestly getting pretty fucking tired of the whole "the world is fucked after half a dozen apocalypses, everything's in ruins, and everyone's a shambling zombie"-setting, and the general atmosphere of "it's so bleak oh god, everyone important is a rabid animal, and everyone you meet is going to die or go insane". That shit had run its course after they used it for the third time in DS2, but they just kept doing the same fucking thing.

>>715071829
Fromsoft making a pirate theme game would be beyond kino I can already imagine the literally who english voice actors dropping cryptic zanzibart lines regarding ancient sea customs

>>715071542 (OP)
>dark fantasy
>he says, posting a giant glowing golden city in front of a giant golden glowing tree, with a guy wielding a giant golden glowing hammer
Retard. Dark Souls was never "dark"

Wow great fucking thread, retard. Can't wait for 500 replies arguing that THEIR version of what """"""dark fantasy"""""" looks like/should look like is THE correct and bestest one. Nigger.

>>715071829
>>715075018
Wuchang is already gonna be pirate Soulslike kino. Fromsoft hasn't been the best maker of Soulslikes since 2017. They were beaten at their own game a long time ago

>>715074840
It's a mixed fucking bag. Shadow Keep is one of the better dungeons in the game, the side dungeons are by and large better, Bayle is probably the only dragon fight that isn't more annoying than difficult, and the DLC has some of the most fun and interesting weapons in the entire game (that come in way too late, because the game is basically over by the time you get some of them). On the other hand, enemy variety is pretty poor and a lot of them seem designed to be obnoxious more than anything else, the overworld has some great verticality to it, but it's also barren as all fuck, exploring is even less worth it than in the base game, and several chunks of it are pretty much entirely pointless. I've played it twice, and the second time only because I played seamless with a buddy, otherwise I would've just cheated in the DLC weapons at the start and not bother with it again.

>>715074840
Fuck no. It's a beautiful looking dlc but that's it LOL

>>715075220
No one is playing poochang shill

>>715075220
They're the best as long as they keep characters customizable. this is shit SO FEW FUCKING SOULS LIKES GET
I DON'T WANT TO PLAY A PRESET CHARACTER I WANT TO PLAY MY OWN FUCKING DUDE, I DON'T CARE HOW LITTLE ROLEPLAYING THERE IS I DON'T CARE IF THERE'S A HELMET COVERING THE FACE I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ALL I WANT IS TO MAKE MY OWN CHARACTER, NAME THAT CHARACTER, AND PLAY THEM IN A THIRD PERSON ACTION RPG. NIGHTREIGN GETS A PASS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SINGLE PLAYER RPG AND PRESET CHARACTERS WORK BETTER FOR THE TYPE OF GAME THEY'RE MAKING, NOT FOR THESE OTHER FUCKING GAMES THOUGH

>>715074840
The story and context it provides for main game is kino.

>>715075161
>NOOOO, WORDS CAN'T HAVE MEANING, STOP BEING SEMANTIC

>>715074954
I've seen ER referred to as "King's Field 9" in several different circles. Some people really just can't let go of a story once they figure out a good one, see Avellone and TORMENT.

>>715074840
It is the best and worst parts of the game put together.

>>715075425
It's an extremely broad idea (fantasy but...... MORE darker. NOT for kids, mkay? serious stuff) that doesn't actually help you better appreciate or compare any given works. It's just masturbation.
I've seen faggots in some other thread compare Witcher and Dark Souls according to which one is "better" at doing "dark fantasy".

>>715075142
Dark doesn't literally mean black.

>>715075142
>DARK fantasy literally means fantasy without light sources
this anon is so based and correct

>>715074954
>it's so bleak oh god, everyone important is a rabid animal, and everyone you meet is going to die or go insane".
i dont really get that feeling from elden ring. some of us still remember our home, bathed in rays of gold.

>>715076004
A lot of fantasy readers are also metal fans, hope that clears everything up for those unaware.

>>715071542 (OP)
>The dark fantasy aesthetic unequivocally peaked with Fromsoftware
>posts high fantasy

>>715076004
>>715076231
>>715076432
>OMG OMG OMG SO HECKIN DARK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT OUT OF A DARK FANTASY GAME

>>715071542 (OP)
From are the only ones who even attempt it, so it'shit like they have any competition

>>715076695
>guy who's only seen boss baby meme
Now is where you say you were "merely pretending". Go ahead, argue that Legend(of Zelda) isn't dark fantasy, let me laugh at you.

>>715076695
What if the fairy gets raped and decapitated (in either order)? That would be dark as fvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvck.... darkest fantasy there has ever been.........

>>715071735
>>715071829
From includes one on the nose nod to Berserk in a DLC for a PS3 game 15 fucking years ago and you stupid faggots act like it's the basis of everything they've ever made.

>>715076794
Legend absolutely is not dark fantasy, it's the most classic straightforward post-Tolkien fantasy ever. Hell, it's closer to a pre-Tolkien children's fairytale than anything else. Next are you gonna tell me that fucking LOTR is dark fantasy?

>>715075275
>>715075398
>>715075951
>>715075319
Thanks lads. It being reminiscent of post-Leyndell in scale (mountaintops, snowfields) put me off but if the story and aesthetics are good I'll push through it. That's what I play for really.

On another note, I don't know what it is, but I genuinely can't enjoy beating a boss by attrition any more. If I fail three times I quit and come back later.

>>715076967
Okay retard lmao

>>715076962
>15 fucking years ago
Anon... Elden Ring has a Berserk reference every 5 seconds

>>715076967
Tell me more about the plot in the thread about aesthetics, you dribbling buffoon

>>715075018
It's unironically happening. They always do this crap where the out of place character is the hint for their next game and this time Raider is just a Pirate with a backstory about Piracy that's totally disconnected from anything in Elden Ring proper.

>>715071973
I always liked diablos aesthetic, too bad Diablo gameplay is barely a step above cookie clicker

>>715074602
The mountaintops overworld being kind of lame does not make the whole last third of the game bad. Also the balance is fine, you're just shit.
>>715074840
It's fantastic. Except for one blatantly broken boss who's guarding almost nothing.

>>715077197
you know i never thought about it but every person i know that loves diablo loves cookie clicker, that's a fucked up correlation

>>715077140
Nightreign's plot is also CLEARLY a fucking template for Duskbloods already as it is. I wouldn't be suprised if Duskbloods IS the pirate game secretly.

>Nightreigns timeline is fucked, everything is happening at the same time, the nightfarers literally emerged from the coffins in the basement
>Duskbloods is literally centered around time-travelling vampires

Im tired of fromslop just being about a single guy with a big weapon i-framing through attacks, give me 3 weak mimics i can customize so i can play dragon's dogma instead

>>715077312
>the balance is fine, you're just shit
You can't possibly say that Fire Giant and Godskin Duo are balanced. You're allowed to admit when shit things are shit bro, Miyazaki isn't gonna send an assassin to kill you

>>715076967
>this isn't "dark" enough for anon
Do you even understand what's being discussed? This isn't an arbitrary discussion over whatever schizo headcanon definition of "dark" you've cobbled together with your 4 braincells. It's a fact, an established genre, sorry it blisters your booty for whatever reason.

>>715071542 (OP)
Not quite.

>>715076969
It's more of the same but denser. Definitely has it's moments.
>I genuinely can't enjoy beating a boss by attrition any more
I summon people if I feel like it's not worth the trouble. Did it for the final boss in DLC.
Also make sure to summon a certain NPC archer for a certain dragon fight. It makes it far cooler.

>>715077312
Pretty much everything after Lendeyll is a boss rush but with a huge filler right beforehand, its a massive slog

>Fire Giant
>Faram Azula (dragon, beastman, dragon, beastman...)
>Godskin Duo
>Maliketh
>Gideon
>Godfrey
>Marika
>Elden Beast

That doesn't even take into consideration the entire secret Mountaintops, the Haligtree, etc. Its a massive fucking slog to get ONE thing needed for your build after Lendeyll

The aesthetic died after DeS, came back in bloodborne, and then died again in everything after. There are very brief moments where elden ring achieves aesthetic but they're far and few.

Elden Ring is high fantasy, not dark fantasy
Dark Souls is dark fantasy

>>715077378
Duskblood is gonna be Dane's game somehow.

>>715077856
Japan Studio were the ones that made these games truly excel. All the bamco games pale in comparison except DS1

>>715076969
>On another note, I don't know what it is, but I genuinely can't enjoy beating a boss by attrition any more
It's a bit hard to explain, but I found that in ER especially the mask had completely fallen. By "mask" I mean the mindset that a player adopts with a game like this, where they get immersed, and accept the world and the monsters therein as what they are, without thinking about it too hard.

In Elden Ring, the attempts to make enemies harder, in very specific ways intended to trip up and challenge Souls veterans (above all the prevalence of roll catches, and the ridiculous delays on attacks), and just generally play into the Fromsoft reputation of the games being difficult and punishing, are so transparent, that I was constantly made aware that I'm playing a video game. Every time an enemy holds an attack for a duration well beyond any natural rhythm, I was ripped out of the game and reminded that now I, as the character, am not fighting a monster, or a corrupted knight, but the enemy designer who's trying to fuck with me, the player. Every time I saw an item out in the open, I came to expect a nearby ambush, because it happened so often and with such regularity, that this was again the level designer trying to trip up the player. Every time I saw an enemy with its back turned through a doorway, or a chest or item at the far end of a room, I knew that more likely than not an enemy would be tucked away in the dead angle next to the door, scripted to combo or grab me should I take the bait. The way they made encounters, enemies, and bosses difficult tipped beyond what I could accept as natural behaviors based on the type of monster or the level layout, and into blatantly the game designers trying to take a cheap death off me.

So that kind of soured a lot of the game for me once I noticed these patterns, including difficult bosses. I didn't feel like the character trying to overcome a monster, I felt like the player trying to overcome the designer.

>>715077856
don't pretend that fromsoftware is some high art and hasn't always just been dungeons and cathedrals with zombies in them

>>715071829
Sekiro, but Pirate, would be absolute Fromsoft kino

>>715077910
I mean if the idea is 'pulling in warriors from different timelines/dimensions' technically its all possible. Like theres clearly dinosaur communion magic in the victorian era and steampunk shit.

>>715077856
I found Bloodborne to be very ugly, vaseline covering every surface.

Duskblood is The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen by Alan Moore but battle extraction royale shooter RPG or w/e.

>>715077964
For me, its that every boss/enemy attacks now flips them across the entire fucking arena. It literally doesnt not work in the open world, they start tripping on the fucking geometry and getting stuck in trees.

The black blade guarding Gurranq is borderline fucking unplayable because the entire fight takes place on a slope that cancels all his attacks.

>>715078183
dark souls 3 had the same problem, everything looks like its covered in grey mud
if it werent for that both games would look much better

>>715071542 (OP)
elden ring its the least dark fantasy from soft game even that faggot of op image said to fear the night and nothing happens at night besides his crappy cavalry minibosses

>>715073846
its the only fromsoft game that guns doesnt suck dick so my claymore giant dad build its viable for memes

>>715078265
nope, not remotely true faggot. PCfags memed on Bloodborne being "grey" and sickdark, then tried to pretend like DS3 wasn't EXACTLY the thing they were actively shitting on for 2 years. B-but it came out on PC, so its good.

>>715076695
>a mutant king who was locked in the sewers for his entire life by his own mother defending a cosmic space alien order that never accepted him to the death is not dark because he uses a glowing hammer

>>715077312
>Also the balance is fine, you're just shit
The balance is objectively shit, and I'll tell you why. Because if you play ER the way you would play any open world adventure game, you'll explore a lot. You'll probably clear out most areas up to that point, explore the underground, might even finish most of Ranni's quest, if not the entire thing, and so on. Leyndell itself is also very long and filled with bosses. Point is, by the time you kill Morgott, there's a very high chance you'll have hit the first, possibly even the second softcap on your relevant damage and survivability stats, and you'll have a fully upgraded weapon/catalyst or just shy of it. Your character at that point is pretty much scratching the ceiling of his relevant scaling, numbers-wise. Sure, maybe you're not at the final softcaps yet, but those last 10-15 points don't exactly make a world of difference anymore. For all intents and purposes, the player at that point has pretty much stopped making big leaps in terms of scaling.

But the game hasn't. The game keeps fucking scaling up for several areas afterwards. If you were a tanky character who could trade with enemies in Leyndell without stacking buffs, there's a good chance that the regular beast enemies or banished knights in Farum Azula will rip you apart like you're back in Stormveil at level 30. You stop scaling, the game doesn't. Yes, it's still beatable, obviously, but it's still objectively shit design. Numbers-wise, the balance just completely falls out of wack after Leyndell.

>>715078183
Heavy post processing fits the game IMO. Everything looks dreamy and fucked up, you can't quite make out faces. Everything outside of your immediate reach is blurred and distorted.
Bloodborne shouldn't be "crisp".

>>715077378
Revenant origin its literally a duskblood character with a factory reset brain and "i must kill chaos (nighlord)" new mindset cause let be honest that literaly who victorian man npc that beated her to death in human body isnt related to heolstor

Elden Ring is dark fantasy that is being masked by the Golden Order's high fantasy

>>715078492
I mean, none of that matters because he's still not a character. He's just as generic and meaningless a bossfight as every other boss in the game. Just a big rabid monster that's in your way.

>>715078585
kinda yes, shame it doesnt have a bloodborne nightmare twist

>>715077964
>does a bunch of complaining about his skill issues
>tries to make it the devs fault
when you're good at video games, immersion and performance are identical experiences. you're a dunning kreuger. you don't like delayed attack animations because they exploit (You)r weaknesses as a gamer. you're not as good at games as you think you are.

>>715076962
>Blaidd
>Guts Sword
>Miquella and Radahn

>>715078492
his brother was pure dark until dlc retcon he is more a shonen sidecharacter with retarded flippy moveset

>>715078718
Please read what I wrote again, carefully, using some thought to actually understand it beyond the classic kneejerk "git gud huehuehue" reaction of every Fromsoft-worshipping halfwit. I'm not complaining that it's difficult, I'm complaining that it's difficult in very transparent, repetitive, visibly artificial, and "videogamey" ways that shatter the suspension of disbelief, and the believability of the world and the enemies therein.

>>715078641
Morgott has the most fleshed out personality of any major boss in any Souls game.

>>715078873
yup the hardest boss staplemark its literally a bitch with lifesteal, 2hpbars anime moverollcatch and rot ( i draw the redline with lifesteal)

> have it writ upon thy meager grave, fell by morgott, the last king!

Why did he call himself Margit all that time

>>715078641
>tells you how character is a character
>"no it's not a character"
retard.

>>715078978
>You shitty tarnished tarnishing my playground with a tree mommy that shunned me meanwhile i talk in faggy shakespearean im a cursed furry and nobody loves me

>>715078978
Does any of it matter? You could still replace him in his fight with a rabid dog that charges you, and it would change absolutely nothing. Bosses in these games aren't characters, they're fights. Any personality these games attempt to staple to them doesn't change a thing when the presentation is consistently "enter arena -> WE MUST FIGHT NOW REEEEEE".

>>715079014
People can't know he's an Omen. That is why he's called the 'veiled monarch'.
So when he goes out to assassinate Tarnished in the larger world, he adopts the Margit name as a disguise.

>>715079014
he is a mental ilness tranny like his mother and father

>>715079145
>skips all cutscene and lore and wonders why everything is just a rabid dog

>if character is in a conflict with you then it's not a character. NPC must have an attached gwent minigame or characterization does not exist
This website is AIDS

>>715078440
i dont even understand what you are trying to say, go outside weirdo

>>715079173
what people? the blind guys that DOOTs? zombie soldiers? treeknight golems? his not nazghul cavalry?

>>715076969
beating a boss like that can be meaningful when a game has a dozen bosses but not when it as 170 or whatever

>>715071542 (OP)
>Guy whose only exposure to dark fantasy is souls

>>715079173
Why the fuck does he put on a disguise when the entire world is populated by zombies and only half a dozen retards vaguely trying to reach the Erdtree would even know or care? Who is he doing this for? Is he afraid of the far-reaching political blowback when the hollows shambling through Leyndell hear that Morgott was out there shanking dudes?

>>715079173
I mean they could have just looked at him and see the horns

>>715079145
You could say that about literally any game.
Why do people have this double standard where they expect FromSoft video games to somehow not still be videogames?
I'm sorry that Elden Ring didn't transcend its medium for you, but it is still a game the same as any else.

>>715079272
Oh I'm sorry, did I miss the part where you can engage in dialogue with these characters, maybe ally yourself with them after finding some common ground? Did I miss the many interesting roleplaying opportunities with these sane individuals who have their own layered motivations, deep backstories, and complex set of morals? Or will they always charge me like a rabid dog the second I set foot into the arena?

>>715079346
Yes.
>>715079397
Yes, that all would bother him and his soldiers would likely turn on him and try to hunt him down.
>>715079407
No one sees him. His appearance is a mystery.

>>715079547
yup the only good fromsot chracter enemy its genshin the ashnia glock grampa since you can do that

>>715079431
>Why do people have this double standard where they expect FromSoft video games to somehow not still be videogames?
I don't actually have these standards, I just like to mock the Fromdrone audience who keep trying to tell me that the worldbuilding is actually super deep and poignant, bro, and these bosses are actually these tragic characters weighed down by their shakespearean human flaws and it's all so meaningful, dude! Yeah, sure, Fromsoft can write vague background information about a setting with the best of them, but acting like any of that shit matters in the games is just ridiculous, considering how linear they are, and how they will always invariably unfold the exact same. Knowing about Morgott's childhood trauma and secret nobility of spirit doesn't change a thing, and it doesn't fucking mean a thing when he acts like the same rabid dog as every other boss.

>>715079761
The vast majority of story driven games are full of unavoidable boss fights.
You could say this about Bioshock, Deus Ex, The Witcher, TLOU, BG3, etc.
Having a substantial and worthwhile plot or backstory to the world doesn't have any bearing on any or most major boss fights being avoidable or not.

>>715079547
His morals are that you are a worm who doesn't deserve a throne (in your case because you are genuinely brain damaged). Why would he want to talk with you? I would also probably try to crack your skull open if I was him.

>>715071973
Based

>>715080283
its a shame wow armor doesnt follow this style just retarded giant pauldrons

>>715078527
Its also really annoying for the pacing. The whole time you´ve had one simple goal: Reach Lleyndell and the Erdtree. Then there´s couple fucking sticks on the way and the game goes "ohh yeah go chase a mcguffin lmao", has you wander through massive zone that´s mostly empty. It feels like extremely forced padding for no good reason just when the game has reached its climax.

>>715078527
Bro just level your Vigor or git gud lmao

>>715077964
This is why I feel like Sekiro was the natural progression of the genre's systems rather than ER's weird attempt at artificial difficulty.

>>715077558
BotNS doesn't really have an aesthetic since it's never had any adaptations in a visual medium.

>>715081493
>Then there´s couple fucking sticks on the way and the game goes "ohh yeah go chase a mcguffin lmao", has you wander through massive zone that´s mostly empty
What the fuck are you even referring to here?? Are you talking about finding the glintstone key to access Raya Lucaria? Acquiring the medallion halves for the Snowfield? I’m at a loss here.

>>715080074
Not the best examples there.

>>715079397
>hollows
I think Elden Ring is fucked up like Souls just for gameplay. In lore they are supposed to be functioning societies.

>>715082093
>2011+14
>still using the term artificial difficulty unironically

The one thing I hate about ER is that if you say No to Mellina you can't progress in the game. This infuriates me because there are different Finger Maidens in the game files you could use in case you rejected her offer.

>>715071542 (OP)
Morgott/Margit is unironically my favourite boss, his moveset flows so nicely for an early boss and the second fight builds on it.

>>715082591
Does that include any pictures?

>>715082591
>Finger Maidens in the game
Tell me moar plz

>>715077140
What kind retatded schizo take is this?

>>715082702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqaq6iZZ9Wg
Game had different finger maidens originally. The plot about Bernahl losing his finger maiden was not due to him burning her but the player doing it in a cut quest. That would trigger his invasion in Farum Azula.

>>715082561
I'll gladly switch to something better suited if anyone's willing to provide an example.

>>715077090

>>715082962
Should've left her in. First 2 lines of dialogue, already more character than Melina.
Or perhaps that's why she was canned, competition of some faggot dev's Donut Steel.

>>715078527
You're right that the balance is shit but you came to the wrong conclusion
Leyndell is the part where the balance is off, not Mountaintops. By the time you get there, you're so overpowered, it should be a cake walk. Most people don't learn Morgott's moveset, they just trade hits with him and he dies after a handful of attempts at most.
Once you get to Mountaintops, the game catches up to your stats and you have to actually pay attention to what you're doing again.

>>715080283
For me, its medium armor.

I love the divine warrior designs. Are they also "inspired" by Berserk?

>>715083765
First 2 lines of dialogue, already more character than Melina.
how. you are a mental case.

>>715084378
What's a hyperbole you autismo?

>>715082369
>Deafeat Morgott
>Door to enter Erdtree is blocked by "impassable brambles" or somesuch
>Hey yeah the only way to get through is this magical flame over at the Mountaintops which werent ever even referred to previously, no other solution fuck you :^)

>>715084551
People say insane shit like this all the time here and are 100% serious. The 'hyperbole' really wasn't visible.

>>715079431
This 100%. People bitch about ER or other Fromsoft games feeling too “videogamey” and taking you out of the experience. As a fan of these games though that’s what I really enjoy. They’re meant to be videogames first and foremost, not novels or movies or “immersive sims”. Fromsoft has had a really good formula for their games, delivering very satisfying gameplay, putting that at the forefront, while weaving a narrative that remains under the surface. People who only care about the gameplay aren’t forced to engage with it but those that do tend to enjoy it and find that it elevates the experience. For all the kvetching that /v/ does about gameplay over story, there sure seem to be a lot of anons more concerned with economic policies of The Lands Between and where everyone shits.

>>715084796
Ok, that's reasonable.

>>715071542 (OP)
Perhaps, but not with ER

>>715084651
>Hmm, wonder why a third of the entire map still isn’t visible yet. Who cares, I’m where the game told me to go so I should be able to beat the game right here and now
>What the fuck, what do you mean there’s more of the game left >:(
What do you want? Sorry you can’t roll a D20 and make a strength check to bash through the thorns with your big chungus STR build and skip Mountaintop of the Giants. There’s allusions to the giants, the significance of fire, and why even having visions of fire is an offense worthy of banishment. Sorry you skipped a bunch of dialogue and bum rushed through the game and had to spend a few extra days before you could cross it off your list of completed games.

>>715083961
Leyndell is screwed because it has to be balanced around the player going there after killing either Rennala or Radahn, who are bosses in entirely different tiers of power from one another.
Souls games have always had problems with that non-linearity, so it isn't that much of a shocker.

>>715087302
That's why the Draconic Tree Sentinel is there.

>>715079346
The soldiers in Elden Ring are literally the opposite of zombies.

>>715074051
Based.

>>715087573
He is harder than most of the area, so he really only walls twinks that eked through Liurnia, while anyone coming from beating Radahn is probably like level 70-80 and can just hammer through him. Even moreso if they cleared Dragonbarrow.
As a roadblock he really makes it more likely for the PC to be overpowered for the city, than the other way around.

>>715087595
Eh, yea and no. To the player they behave the same as hollowed soldiers from DS2 I think some might even be the same model, but within the lore they are conscious people who have allegiances. They’ve just been stuck in a world that’s been decaying since the shattering, forced to battle for thousands of years in an undying state on behalf of whatever shard bearer they’re loyal to. It’s a lot more hand-wavy compared to the logic of Dark Souls.

>>715082186
Aren't you able to visualize the descriptions in your head?

>>715084065
respectable

>>715082904
>not knowing
This is common knowledge.

>>715079346
Yes. His very existence is sacrilege. It's why he has an absolute meltdown in phase 2 when you push him to use the Omen bloodline powers. He despises himself almost as much as he hates (you).

>>715071735
>redditserk

Oh boy another thread where retards ruthlessly conflate the terms
>high fantasy
>low fantasy
>dark fantasy
>light fantasy
Very cool! Surely it's possible to communicate with all these subhumans who dont even know what the words they use mean

>>715071542 (OP)
I don't feel that FromSoft captures the feeling of Dark Fantasy at all, it's aesthetic is more apocalyptic. It shows worlds of pure devastation, hopelessness and no sense of community or humanity. There are no villages or towns, no peasants or kingdoms, it's just dead worlds filled with monsters to kill. To me it's all salt and no sugar, it lacks balance and gives me worlds not worth fighting for, not worth exploring, not worth experiencing. Just creative variations of rotting places full of death... I don't know how they got so popular.

Diablo I and II is a much better example of Dark Fantasy.

>>715084201
They look cool but the way they fight shows off everything wrong with recent Fromslop
5 trillion damage bullshit animation attacks
I learned to parry them to death out of spite but seriously nobody enjoys this and no you don't enjoy this either you contrarian nigger who reads this

>>715096708
charged colossal sword R2
charged colossal sword R2
charged colossal sword R2
not my problem

>>715076962
But anon... Berserk invented and owns the copyright on Dark Fantasy as a whole

>>715091242
>>715080283
>blizzard used to make kino armors
Jesus. I hate wow.

>>715078789
Radahn is Raoh from FOTNs. Miquella is Jesus. The great sword is just a huge stupid sword, which Berserk did not invent. Blaidd has thematic or character tie to Guts and no visual similarity other than that Gut's armor looks like a wolf and Blaidd is a literal dog.

>>715096708
That's not what he asked you idiot.

>>715077441
Fire giant is not only balanced, but outright easy. You are genuinely just fucking shit at the game. Godskin Duo was bullshit at launch, but only because their duel boss AI wasn't implemented correctly, not their stats. Now they're just a decent challenge. There is one shit boss still in the game and that's Gaius. Luckily he's almost totally optional. Super Radahn was also bullshit at launch, but after the nerf he's fine.
>>715077816
Mountaintops overworld is lame but it actually has a lot of the best dungeons. Also Farum Azula kicks ass.
>>715078527
>>715083961
You're both fucking retarded and terrible at the game. Just leveling vigor to a reasonable level and wearing armor and not wearing vulnerability talismans is enough to make sure it will always take at least 3 or 4 hits to kill you from anything short of placidusax's death beam. Any more investment in defense on top of that and you can just stroll through Farum Azula like it's undead burg. Mountaintops is even easier. No mandatory field bosses, almost no foliage or complicated terrain to slow down your horse enough to let enemies catch you. I think people manage to conflate Boralisis's retarded damage absorption with the states of the whole level, since he's the most conspicuous enemy there other than the castle sol soldier guy.