there's literally nothing to do in this game

>>715080147 (OP)
I realized that when I saw the massive community events on YouTube you can tell the pros are genuinely autistic

It's a ''make your own fun'' type of game you'll likely not enjoy without some degree of autism
The people with 500+ hours in this game all do autistic self-imposed challenges like collecting every piece of garbage in the game or whatever

>>715080520
>Make your own fun
>Get bitten
>Lose

>Play it safe by only staying in your self-sufficient base, and don't have fun.
>Don't get bitten
>Win!

Game design issue.

>>715080147 (OP)
>look up videos on this game
>its all retired runescape players that were attracted to the game because the skills are so ducking tedious to level they feel right at home
Grim

>>715080907
Having played many hours of zomboid, I am starting to realize that it might not be the greatest designed game.
There is far too much grind for a permadeath game where you can always be killed in one hit.

>>715080727
>Get bitten
>No reason to do anything since I'm dead
>Can't recover my shit unless I actually die
>Stand still and do nothing while I wait to die

The infection mechanics are terrible. A lot of people in these threads say to play with infection turned off, but haven't tried it. It's probably better since you can get more severe injuries without dying, which means you actually have to engage with the medical system.

>>715082634
I just go into a frenzy, mindlessly killing every zombie I see until I am overwhelemed and die after getting bitten. It's kinda therapeutic in a way.

>>715080147 (OP)
>there's literally nothing to do in this game
If you have to ask this to yourself you're just not into sandbox. It's about survival.

>>715083373
based green bar watcher

>>715083482
I like watching the green bar go up and imagining that it is my characters cock and the green stuff is the cum slowly filling it.

>>715080520
spbp

>>715083482
You don't need to be into every single genre. I don't think you like survival games.

>>715080147 (OP)
This is the only game that bored me to tears even when playing with a friend. Perhaps it's just not my thing but there was a lot of waiting and doing nothing that I didn't enjoy.

>>715080147 (OP)
you can grind skills for hundreds of hours just so you can make something that you could have looted on the 3rd day

It's a great game, but after a while it does get repetivive.

Mods are a great way to refresh things, currently i'm playing the "Project France" mod, which is pretty gr8. Though again, when i get everything, it will get stale.

>>715080147 (OP)
It's a sandbox. What you do is survive zombies and see how long you can go.

>>715083771
i do like survival games, just not ones set in the fucking 90's. i dont need to craft pottery and stone axes anymore. focus on the zombies/npcs
>>715080520
>It's a ''make your own fun'' type of game
it's not thoughbeit. it's a game like rimworld where the game is meant to give you random/procgenned events and stories to drive your reaction. but the devs just didn't put that stuff in for 13 years

>>715080727
What about the part till you get to the stage of a ''self sufficient base'' retard.

>>715084169
Lmao whatever nerd. You really came up with that answer? I bet you googled that shit.

>>715082634
I played with infection on but the mortality off so you just get real sick after a bite
it more or less lays you out for a few days which I find to be a decent tradeoff for not having to go through the tedium of basically restarting because the game rolled the haha you die injury

>>715080147 (OP)
>no steam cloud

Such a huge blunder

Post your "must have" mods.

>>715083373
>survive

but why? what's waiting for me at the end?

>>715080520
>It's a ''make your own fun'' type of game
It does a bad job at this compared to other games. The problem is that all of the good stuff that the game has to offer happens in the first 2-3 weeks of the game. Past that and you realize that the game is very hollow.

>>715087759
>It does a bad job at this compared to other games.
Let me guess, you need theme park tier open world games like Betheshit games?

>>715080147 (OP)
>set XP modifier to x50
>flood map with modded areas, often overlapping and warping into each other rendering them inaccessible
>download as many item packs as possible, as lorebreaking as possible
>download mods to make zombies more varied and have more abilities
ah... yep. it's gaming time

>>715087819
No you gay retard. Mount & Blade is one example that does the sandbox experience far better than Zomboid. Dwarf fortress is another. Both of those games allow the player to do what they want and don't truly have an end goal in mind yet the experience is far more enjoyable. Zomboid has nothing to offer the play past 2-3 weeks. The game is shallow and the retarded devs in charge of the game keep on forcing dogshit grinding in the game while making every other aspect of the game worse.

>>715088471
Not the same. You get to manage your own army, become a king. Zomboid is all about surviving of what little is left.

>>715087969
>Just mod the shit out of the game
>Now the game is enjoyable
I still don't understand how it takes the devs 11(still on going) years to add NPCs meanwhile some autistic guy from Russia was able to make dynamic NPCs in just a handful of months.

>>715080147 (OP)
They need to add dungeons like Military Labs for you to raid for cybernetics or something and add variant zombies and add stuff like climbing trees and cars so they can add more difficult zombies.

>>715088530
>Not the same. You get to manage your own army, become a king.
No shit the gameplay isn't exactly the same, one is a medieval sandbox rpg game while one is a glorified farming sim that pretends to be a zombie game. In Mount & Blade the end goal isn't to become a King, its one of the possible end goals you can do and you can do it multiple ways. One playthrough I was just a rich trade baron and bought towns and cities. One Playthrough I was a bandit, robbing merchants and raiding kingdoms if they didn't pay me enough gold. Throughout the playthroughs there was a good sense of progression that didn't feel like mindless grinding. Project zomboid on the other hand has no possible end goal in sight(both for the player and the devs) and there is not sense of progression other than watching a green bar fill up and hearing a little jingle when you level up. The devs in there infinite wisdom decided to make that part of the game even more annoying by reducing the exp gained to level, adding a cap to how much you can level up a skill from certain tasks or even out right removing the ability to level up from certain tasks. They also decided to make the combat system far worse than it already was so that fighting zombies is now a chore which is such an amazing idea for a so called "zombie" game.
>Zomboid is all about surviving of what little is left.
No Zomboid is about finding what useless shit you can collect to make your sims base a little cooler. The game's mechanics are very shallow and it becomes very clear once you get past the first 2-3 weeks of surviving.

>Make your own fun type of game
This game doesn't want you to have fun. It wants you to read books, grind skills, loot every thing, and never ever get bitten.

>>715089560
>dungeons
>cybernetics
>zombies
Not on this realistic pottery and flint knapping simulator, no no.

>>715088660
from what little I read of modder notes, it sounds like they themselves have been banging against the dev's spaghetti code to get any sort of NPCs working.

>>715089672
well then they should add enemy factions that send raids to hunt you down like in Dwarf fortress.

>>715080520
Will I like it? I have 100 hours in The Long Drive

>>715089918
No can do.
Go play with sticks in the woods instead.

>>715089672
It's funny that this post could apply to both zomboid and cdda nowadays.

>>715080520
>>715080727
You can disable the infection mechanic from bites, ya know.

>>715091443
Replied to the wrong person with the first one, meant to reply to the other guy bitching about bites.

>>715091443
>>715091542
You could stop being brown, ya know.

>>715080147 (OP)
> early access
> open world
> crafting

Why do people still fall for this shit? I played it once when the game was a 2D game and it was mid. Tried it again a couple months ago and it's so boring and retarded.

Pic rel is like zomboid but an actual game that's good.

>>715091779
I accept your concession.

>>715091918
Accept your trooncession.

bump

>>715080147 (OP)

it's 13+ years in development - LET. THAT. SINK. IN. 5 more years and it's a kid you raised all the way through high school.

>>715080520
>all do autistic self-imposed challenges like collecting every piece of garbage in the game or whatever

this, and then lurk the forums like insane people - never spending their free time on other better games - they are freaks

>>715080520
FPBP
The gameplay is incredibly simple (shove and stomp at absolute worst, and your killing efficiency only gets better the more you fight), there's no NPCs to give a shit about (laptop stolen again), and there's no genuinely interesting lore to *why* it is that this zombie infection/scenario is different from the many others.

For everyone with half a functioning brain, this game is interesting for 30-ish hours (immersion mostly, doing multiple starts after dying early), followed by it becoming one of those "last played in 2018" games at the bottom of your Steam library. There's nothing to challenge you, there's nothing you can learn, it's just the template for something that could be fun, but the devs are incompetent and lack any sort of vision/drive. Because when the goyim will make hundreds of Youtube videos regardless, why bother? Gamers are often cattle.