Thread 715103197

>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T FORCE DEVS TO SUPPORT GAMES FOREVER!
>what? you just want to be able to run dedicated servers in private without relying on continued support of a publisher?
>AIIIIIIIIEEEEEE *short circuits*

Why do corpocuck shills meltdown when we ask for basic private servers?

>>715103197 (OP)
You'd have to be arguing like an extremely dishonest, disingenuous shill to imply that modern game development is at all similar to game dev of 20 years ago. What was easily feasible to do then is way more complicated now. It's not really that hard to grasp honestly if you just think about it for more than two seconds.

>>715103524
Speaking of extremely dishonest

>>715103524
>What was easily feasible to do then is way more complicated now.
skill issue, post your code

>>715103524
No anon speaking "make dedicated servers" into existence is easy and has zero cost associated with it :)

>>715103524
>bloo bloo bloo it's too hard :'(
sounds like they shouldn't be in the business of making netplay video games if they can't pull basic server software off hint: they can, they just don't want you in control of your experience

>>715103827
Why yhe fuck should I give a single fuck about the cost? Devs will get paid more and jews will cry. Sounds great.

>>715104060
you're right the development cost doesn't effect consumers in the slightest

>>715103197 (OP)
>>AIIIIIIIIEEEEEE *short circuits*
Actually their usual response is to ignore you and then post the same argument you just debunked in the next thread where they have a clean slate for their bad-faith shitposting. There's no accountability on this board; if you lose an argument then you just come back later and try again.

>>715103197 (OP)
Because they won't be able to sold that much with minimum changes in their products.

>>715103524
>extremely dishonest, disingenuous
Sums up the entire Video Game Europe lobby.

>>715103524
Abiotic Factor is an indie game that is still in development. If indie devs can do it then so should AAA games.

>>715104129
It doesn't, publishers and storefronts don't need an excuse to charge more so we don't need a reason to pay more

>>715103197 (OP)
>Why do corpocuck shills meltdown when we ask for basic private servers?
BECAUSE THEY'RE LAZY AND USE THE SAME INFRA FROM 2002 FOR THEIR NEWER GAMES
BUT BECAUSE THEY THINK "OPEN SOURCE MEANS LESS SECURITY" THEY'RE SCARED SHITLESS OF EVERYONE SEEING THEIR SPAGHETTI CODE DOGSHIT

>>715103524
>is way more complicated now
funny thing, mr extremely dishonest faglord

>>715104129
It doesn't.
Publishers charge more because they want to make more money for their shareholders, not because games are too expensive or some other bullshit excuse.

>>715104597
>>715104801
You guys should really take econ 101 before advocating for any legislation

>>715104887
I have a finance degree, 90% of business majors are sociopaths and 99.99% of MBAs are psychopaths, if you believe this bullshit about game dev costs being prohibitively expensive you are either retarded or a shill.
Either trim the fat and get rid of redundant roles or fuck off and admit that you need line to go up forever, this stupid bullshit about games costing too much only works on the financially illiterate.

>>715103524
The entire campaign is dishonest. Any mention of the externalities and you get called a shill

>>715103197 (OP)
>brink dedicated server
Holy throw back. Could we get a /v/ Brink server up and running?

>>715103524
>https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual//dedicated-server.html
>https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/setting-up-dedicated-servers-in-unreal-engine
>https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/export/exporting_for_dedicated_servers.html
AAAAAAHHH, IT BURNS IT BURNS, THIS BLACK MAGIC IS TOO MUCH FOR ME AAAWW SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

These days I don't pay for any online game that doesn't have dedicated community server support.
If your game is a live service game then you'd better be offering that shit for free.

>>715103524
It's not "more complicated" now. You just have your entire team made up of jeets faking expertise in UE5 and diversity hires that have difficulty pushing pencils. All due to ousting the actual talent at these studios for having "wrong think".

>>715105451
Based. Even if the only thing SKG achieves is forcing new games to label themselves with expiry dates, it'd be that much better for me as a costumer.

>>715103524
FPBP
Why don't SKG faggots realize they are asking for something impossible. The audacity for asking for a end of life plan, when an end of life is an end of life, the game is done, move on.

>>715103524
Is there something stopping them from making it less complicated?
I figured with how idiot proof Unreal is things would be far less complicated

>>715103524
>You'd have to be arguing like an extremely dishonest, disingenuous shill to imply that modern game development is at all similar to game dev of 20 years ago
you are 100% correct
because the tools we have now should make this 1000x easier