Thread 715105056

Discuss action games with super deep combat like DMC, Bayonetta and Ninja Gaiden, and their clones

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Threadly reminder: if you're a true fan of the action genre you will buy Ninja Gaiden 4, even if you don't like the direction it took or don't even like Ninja Gaiden at all.

Not buying NG4 is a win for rollslop.

>>715105403
True fans will not be buying ninja gaiden 4. Only casual niggerfaggots think NG4 looks good.

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>>715105403
I have never played any of the Ninja Gaiden games. Why would I start playing them with NG4?

NG 4 looks great.

>>715105403
I pre-ordered deluxe

Reminder: NGB > DMC3 > NG2 > DMC4 > Bayo1 > Bayo2 > NG3 > DMC5 > Bayo3

>>715105562
NG4 has new protagonist. Figure that's you're in.

>>715105575
when is that supposed to release?

>>715105056 (OP)
>Discuss action games with super deep combat like DMC
hm... something wrong here...

>>715105620
the most secondary opinion ever

>>715105678
Oh so it's kinda like DMC4? Is it also newcomer-friendly just like that game?

>>715105056 (OP)
I really like action games with more tactic combat about learning patterns and strafing around the enemy like dark souls

>>715106078
>newcomer-friendly
No clue. Releases soon at least.

>>715106164
nioh chuds won

>>715106164
>strafing
Play Onimusha Warlords

>>715105543
>>715105925
>>715106078
Why people bother posting DMC on these threads when the franchise is the genre's chewing toy?
Anons would rather discuss Soleil's titles or even Souls titles over that franchise.

>>715106438
>chew toy
Don't agree. I think it's because the series has been discussed to death since it's baby first action game. There's more out there.

>>715106438
filtered

>>715105575
Is every attack a fucking cutscene?

>>715106650
You can't be filtered by a game where the enemies don't fight back.

>>715106438
its a cool franchise

>>715106830
good morning saar

The problem with most DMC movies is that they refuse to move, it's not really about them being unwilling to attack they just suck at moving and each entry the player gets better and better movement tools.

Someone post that chart listing all the action game releases between 2015 and 2025 and the upcoming action games.

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>>715107124
I know this is a bait chart but there is no way DMC2 is better than anything else on that chart (besides Remember Me).

Remember Me was boring dogshit but if it released today people would pretend it is a masterpiece out of contrarianims (and the MC's fat ass).

>>715107124
2014 tier list

>>715107342
Wasn't remember me's gameplay gimmick just having customizable combo routes?

>>715107442
Yes

>>715107389
Thanks.
It's pretty interesting because in comparison there are way fewer Soulslikes, with some years not even having Soulslikes at all

2015: Lord of the Fallen
2016: Dark Souls 3
2017: Nioh, The Surge
2018: Nothing
2019: Sekiro, Code Vein, The Surge 2
2020: Hellpoint, Nioh 2
2021: Nothing
2022: Elden Ring
2023: Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen reboot
2024: Shadow of the Erdtree
2025: AI Limit, Nightreign
Upcoming: Duskblood

In comparison action games are a vastly more successful genre which outnumbers Soulslikes 3 to 1.

>>715107882
But no one buys or plays these games. So doesn't mattter.

>>715106553
>There's more out there
Yes there are but DMC is still king.

>>715107882
You can even scratch off the Nioh games; they are pretty much their own thing.

>>715105620
That's honestly about right, I haven't played Bayo 3 though so I can't comment on that.

>>715107981
If no one did they wouldn't keep being made In fact action games are going through a golden age in the same vein as the original Playstation 2 / Xbox / Gamecube era golden age.

Soulslikes are the ones no one actually buys and plays; they're chasing a trend without realizing that normalfags only buy From games and nothing more and that's why the genre started slowing down so heavily during the past two years.

>>715105403
As a true fan of NG I will not be buying this trash.
1 and 2 were good games, 3 was absolute dogtier trash, 4 is trying to be cute with the "new protagonist" shtick replacing the old which I don't like.
Oh also this is my revenge for Ryuu being gay and no way fagging this.
His series should die, but for good this time.

I will expose myself here and ask what you guys think of this idea i've been sitting on for awhile. The basic gameplay premise is similar to god hand. Tank controls, right stick for dodge, and customizable moveset.

Face buttons are your attacks. Unlike God Hand, there are no universal attacks so neutral attack, forward attack, and back attack are all open for moves, potentially even back>forward inputs if I really wanted to give the players as many moves as possible.

Square is where you can put your combo attacks but every input can have up to 3 "combos" attached to it and the special property of these moves is that the recovery is cancellable into other attacks, which makes chaining the combo attack itself faster than normal but also allows you to seamlessly chain into other non-square attacks faster as well.
X attacks have no special properties
Triangle attacks are where you can place special modifiers on attacks. i.e. attack is 25% faster but deals 50% less damage, ability to charge the attack for extra damage, attack gains armor properties but has uncancellable recovery if it whiffs.
O is exclusively for throw moves. I've thought about it a lot but there's a lot of variety you can add to throws. i.e. you have normal throws which enemies can break out of, especially if used too much but are very strong. Hit throws that have to connect with an unblocked enemy to do anything but can't be broken out of, throws that exist to combo into for damaging enders.

I also thought it would be cool to have special attacks mapped to R1+face button that of course can be swapped out and work kind of like streets of rage 4 where they cost health to use but can be regained by hitting enemies.

I was just wondering if this layout sounds appealing or if it's over complicated or what.

>>715109131
Why bother posting this shit when you're too lazy to do anything?

>>715105403
If you're a true NG fan you will be actively telling people NOT to buy NG4 and in fact shill Ragebound, which is actually really fun and has 10x more soul.

>>715109340
Ragebound is woke

>>715109131
> if it's over complicated
No input layout is over complicated. If it is fun people will learn it mo matter what.

>>715109340
>Ragebound
Stop with the revisionist. Everyone besides the true NG fans were excited for this announcement. The rest were losing their shit in disappointment.

Transformers Devastation was Platinums last great game

>>715110837
Nier Automata was Platinum's last great game*

Mork:
>Imagine a pvp combat system based on analog sticks. Like if dark souls had PvP
This guy didn't play invasions?

>>715108067
No, they're Soulslikes

>no no a dark souls fighting game would be more about spacing and playing around hitboxes
Dark souls pvp is what you're describing, mork

>>715109131
>right stick for dodge
Does dodging work exactly as it does in God Hand?

>>715108276
Action games are more shallow than ever.

>>715110837
Ahem

>>715106825
was black your last ninja gaiden game?

>>715111357
Probably but I have the idea of replacing the back dodge with a hop that goes over lows like Sifu and holding R1+dodge will give you something similar to god hands backflip, as in something that has more i-frames and covers a longer distance, but can be used in any direction.

>>715111376
This. The further they've strayed away from beat em up design the worse they've become.

>>715105491
Oh NO it doesn't have explosions every .5 seconds.

daily schizophrenic thread

>>715111415
actually rescind my statement. Bayonetta Origins was great. My only issue was that that Bayo herself should've have more moves instead of piling everything onto Cheshire.

>>715107882
this isn't a complete list though. off the top of my head wo long, bloodborne, and crab souls are missing and nioh 3 is upcoming. I imagine there's others since I don't really pay close attention to souls

>>715105575
Guys the enemies looks too aggressive. Where is my breathing room?

Godhand pussies. Sinply Godhand.

>>715111979
>My only issue was that that Bayo herself should've have more moves instead of piling everything onto Cheshire.
The irony is that Viola falls into a similar issue except Viola is in an actual full on action game

>>715111979
Wait this shit has actual combat?? I thought it was purely a puzzle game.

its amazing how fighting games and rts games survived despite everything and this genre is barely alive

>>715112436
It's not really amazing. A PvP game requires interaction with a real person and it's a constantly evolving game for the player. Progress is more rewarding.

Getting good at an action game doesn't really mean anything.

>>715105056 (OP)
>Super deep combat

So DMC thread?

>>715112436
Same thing with stealth. It got absorbed into other games. Like GTA, RDR, Far Cry, Last of Us, Ghost of Tsushima, Ass Creed, BamHam and so on. Why make a dedicated stealth game when you can get your stealth elsewhere already? Same with action, it got absorbed up by a lot of those same games and franchises. Souls is a big part of it too. Everyone thinks its the combat that made Souls so successful so all the Soulslikes try to copy the combat. It all gets diluted down so a lot of publishers won't see a gap in the market for a dedicated action game.

>>715112436
Fighting games only survive off of devs trying desperately to reinvent the genre.

>>715112818
>trying desperately to reinvent the genre.
Except they aren't, are you stupid?

>>715112779
Character Action and stealth peaked too early. It's telling that all the best games in both genres can be played solely on PS2

>>715112431
it gets like that in the end game
The final boss actually goes into a proper full bayonetta battle

>>715112436
There is one fighting game on the market right now that is thriving, everything else is either rapidly spiraling towards death or not really relevant enough to be considered alive.

>>715113151
Thief and DMC5 aren't on PS2.

>>715113460
guilty geear strive sold 3 millions
thats amazing

>>715113690
but at what cost?

>>715113460
Wrong. Fighting games are bigger than they've ever been. People have been saying the genre has been dying for over 10 years, every game but street fighter is dead, etc. Except they're still getting new games and updates and the playerbase is larger and larger.

It's still small in comparison to everything else but again it's always been like that.

>>715105620
>Bayo above Godhand
KEEEEEEKKKKKERRRRROOOOO

Also NG2 may be worse game, but it is still better action game then NGB.

>>715112431
>purely a puzzle game.
Who told you that?

>>715113729
fuck off
you did not buy xrd at full price

>>715106040
the most tertiary opinion ever

>>715111415
This game was better than bayonetta 3, it should have sold 1 million while 3 flopped instead

>>715113847
but i'm playing it now...

>>715113469
>DMC5

lmaoooooo

Ninja gaiden is the peak

>>715114048
lol

>>715113995
>but i'm playing it now...
meh
you did not buy it at full price when it counted
now go and play with the beadman weirdo

>>715114231
>now go and play with the beadman weirdo
happily so!

I just played this game. What did I think about it?

>>715114294
sick freaks

>>715114413
you are describing strive players

>>715112436
>rts
>survived

>>715114314
Mork said it was ok so I guess that's what you think

>>715114314
You thought you wanted to buy NG4 >>715105403

>>715114565
reverse the negroes

>>715105575
So after rewatching the clip at a lower speed I think blocking works in the same way for Ryu as it does for Yakumo. Probably a good thing all in all. And I guess Ryu's strings wil lbe more effective at guardbreaking the enemies.

>>715114534
no am describing guilty gear fans in general

>>715114806
I can't disagree with that

>>715114598
there are new age of empires 2 expansions and there are over 10000 players everyday

>>715114941
That's one game. Same as SF6 vs fightans as a genre

>>715107124
>MGR in S
lol
lmao

>>715107124
>>715107342
Is remember me a CUHRAZY game? I always thought it was a walking sim/steqlth game.

>>715105056 (OP)
>never got a yuyu hakusho stylish action game
why even live

>>715115284
starcraft 2 is still alive

>>715113759
10 years ago we had SF, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive. Now we have SF, Tekken (which had its worst release maybe ever and will hopefully be dead within a year), and then a bunch of 2D anime games with a few hundred players each.

Excuse me, but WHY IN THE FUCK is there no update for Bayonetta 3 on the Shitch 2? I've been waiting for it to be on literally any platform that didnt make it look like dogshit, and the only thing missing is the ability to toggle the resolution myself. FUCK

>>715115791
>Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive
yeah i take guilty gear and fighterz over these games any day of the week

I got stranger of paradise in the sale, and the action is good but everything around it has aids. More random dogshit to pick up and sift through than borderlands, all so that I can make a build with +2.3% scrotum distension. Skill trees and job levels in a game where I'M meant to be the one getting better. Also fuck the cutscenes, just because I can skip them doesn't mean I should deal with multiple back to back ones and the associated 80gb file size.
Anyway does this shit get better? I'm at the end of my 2 hour "demo" period and I'm thinking I might just refund it and try Ninja Gaiden instead. I have a hard copy of black waiting to be played right there.

>>715116006
I'm sorry to hear that, hope your condition improves.

>>715115525
It's a game that consist on three segments:
- Assassins' Creed style platforming
- Action game segments that play like an extremely, extremely simplified God Hand
- Memory manipulation segments, that played like an extremely, extremely simplified form of Ghost Trick's puzzles.

It's one of those games that not even modern "good is bad bad is good" revisionist contrarianism have been unable to rehabilitate.

>>715116125
People pretend to like SoP due to the CHAOS memes. So take a guess.

>>715116125
>Skill trees and job levels in a game where I'M meant to be the one getting better
Who told you that? It's a Final Fantasy game. It's all about builds and party compositions. The only difference is this one is also an action game so there's execution requirements along with your job/skill/item setup.

>>715115791
SC and DoA were never that popular and MK is exactly the same. Nobody took MK seriously it's always been a joke to people that took the genre seriously.
Guilty Gear is unfortunately popular and we've always had a bunch of other smaller titles get released that weren't popular in the anime space and SNK of course.

Shut the fuck up nigger. You don't know anything. You can talk about how modern FGs are trash but the genre isn't dying. Again if it was truly dying it would've died many many years ago

I'm sick and tired of fighting game fans invading threads about other genres.
People won't play your games because they're inherently inaccessible, no matter how much you claim otherwise.

>>715116125
Ninja Gaiden Black is a genre defining game, play it right now

>>715116125
>Loot
Just equip whatever gives the most defense/damage for a fresh playthrough. Any other perks aren't worth it.
There's no real issue with the skill trees or jobs, not really sure what you're complaining about?
Skip cutscenes if you don't like them, did someone really need to point that out to you?

>>715116525
Taking fighting games "seriously" is for retards and the way you place importance on a fighting game based on how seriously the community treats it is a dead giveaway that you are an even bigger retard. I don't like MK and the fact that nobody takes it seriously is a redeeming feature in my eyes just because it makes retards like you seethe.

>>715116674
If it was genre defining there would've been NG clones but there are quite literally none except the samurai jack game which is literally made by some of the same devs but it's ultimately still worse than actual NG.

>>715116735
Why do people believe that "just equip the gear with the bigger numbers" automatically solve the issue of a game having RNG loot in the first place?
It's like claiming that it's okay to have HIV because you only need to take your retrovirals every day.

>>715116125
There is an optimize equipment and auto-dismantle for a reason. Job levels do not exclude you from also getting better at the game unless you are so bad at the game not even they could help you. The fact you bitch about skippable cutscenes of all things yet didn't mention anything regarding the actual combat mechanics like Chain Cancel means that yes, it gets substantially better. But can you?

>>715117095
A first playthrough is not balanced around you optimizing your gear and the game has a pretty steady progression of gear. Optimizing gear to have the absolute best balance of damage/defense and stats and stuff won't do you any favors because you will very quickly find gear in the next few levels that trump your "optimized" gear purely with raw stats being higher. The game is not going to be incredibly easier or harder because of good or bad RNG drops.

Also I forgot SoP makes it even easier because there is just an "optimize" gear button lol, so there's very little reason to care about it unless you're so autistic the act of pressing a button to pick up gear a few dozen times per level triggers you or something.

>>715116792
>Taking fighting games "seriously"
you dont even like fighting games
shut the fuck up

>>715117095
Because you fundamentally don't understand the system and have shown that you don't want to even try to learn it at its most basic level, so they tell you to do it because it might shut you up long enough to learn the rest of the game and maybe notice how it actually works by then. The first playthrough of these games are designed to not require any precise gear management whatsoever to focus on the core combat mechanics, it offers minimal benefit for equipping specific gear along with little to no reward for mindless grinding. The gear is for finetuning and customizing your playstyle later on.

>install coat mod
>game becomes 10x better
https://www.nexusmods.com/metalgearrisingrevengeance/mods/969?tab=posts

>>715116792
>and the fact that nobody takes it seriously is a redeeming feature in my eyes just because it makes retards like you seethe.
What the fuck are you talking about. Where in my post did I imply i'm seething at MK. My only point with MK is that it has the same success as it ever has and that pointing that "back then we had MK" as if MK is irrelevant now is retarded. I pointed out that it was never taken seriously because whatever retard was saying made it seem like MK no longer matters, when it never mattered except to casuals and they're still releasing MK anyways so

>>715117841
The back of an action game character can seriously change a lot.

>>715117367
That's more or less what I expected, like I said the action is good but you can't tell at the start how much it's going to lean into any aspect, and when I have other games on hand that just don't have skinner box loot just makes those stick out more.
Also yeah the cutscenes aren't bad on their own just more indicative that the game might have modern sony aids. Doesn't help that back to back ones have me loading, skipping then waiting to load the next then skipping that too. That or the fact everyone was saying its cool because jack doesn't give a shit about fantasy tropes, but then the plot starts and it's regular fantasy filler.
For what it's worth I liked dissidia a lot, I think it is just the random loot on EVERY enemy making me expect its going to waste my time.

>>715116674
DMC3 is not only the originator of the genre it's still the peak.

>>715117684
I love fighting games, just none released in the past 5+ years. Notice I never said that fighting games are dead, but I sure wish they were with the fucking shit we have now.

>>715118795
>but I sure wish they were with the fucking shit we have now.
keep crying bitch

>>715116792
>Taking fighting games "seriously" is for retards
If you don't take fighting games seriously then you wouldn't care about the genre being "dead" especially when plenty of FGs still come out. The only people that bitch about the genre dying are people that actually care about playing it competitively.

Without nostalgia goggles DmC, DMC5 and Bayonetta 1 are the only good games around here

>>715110973
gameplay is absolute shit.

>>715119148
It's mindless but fun. It's way better than all recent action games

>>715118475
I don't know what you mean by not being able to tell how much it'll lean into aspects, the first level gives you several weapons, abilities and mechanics to play with and presents the variety the job system will allow, the game keeps adding more and more in that regard. I will at least say that the game does go much heavier on the cutscenes at the start to convey the setting and the initial plot, but there is still enough that seems off to add an air of mystique to what is going on particularly if you're familiar with Final Fantasy already. They ease off after the second main mission. The amount of loot doesn't mean anything because of how the systems surrounding it work, stop letting your preconceived notions twist you. Regardless of how much they drop you can still dump it immediately due to auto-dismantle etc., what it does is let you progress quickly without needing to look through gear at all.

>>715119148
It’s not shit but it’s not nearly as good as other action games which is why some of us are confused as to why it’s included in the conversation other than platinum

People here shit on souls combat all day long but somehow Nier Automata’s combat is good enough?

Nier’s combat is third person shooter with button mashing

Man that reminds me, are the Dissidia games actually any good? I've heard people gas the PSP ones up but i'm not a final fantasy guy much

>>715119490
auto-aim third person shooter with button mashing***

>>715119510
012 is really good if you treat it as a single player action rpg

>>715119510
It's good but it's extremely low budget

>>715119773
can you give more details, I dont know much about the game itself, especially the combat

>>715120023
Why does he sound like he has brown skin

>>715119510
They're all good, the PSP games are designed far more for single player with having a lot of content and RPG mechanics, but the core combat is very enjoyable and the characters have a lot of variety to them. NT focuses significantly more on the multiplayer and does have a free version but I doubt there are many people online, it was done dirty in too many ways to count. Back to the PSP games, Duodecim is the sequel but it has basically everything from the first game included.
>>715120016
They're full 3D movement arena fighters, the PSP games are 1v1, Duodecim is 1v1 with an assist system, while NT is 3v3 as standard. They have a pretty unique damage system where you have two types of attacks, HP attacks which do actual damage based on Bravery, and Brave attacks which increase said Bravery by lowering the opponent's. That opens up a variety of strategies and mindgames based on what you prioritize. Beyond that you would be better just watching footage or trying it out.

>>715121268
If it doesn't have a sword it's not in this genre

Where did Astral Chain go wrong?

What is the worst yt video about this genre out there? Don't say Mork, I know it gets far worse than him.

>>715123807
Impossible to find because there are dozens to hundreds of 3rd worlders making videos about these games with horrible broken english

>>715123949
Ok, then narrow it down to people with good english.

>>715123337
Switch exclusive.

>>715125331
It's on PC too

>>715123337
Nintendo retarded price points.

>>715118550
NG was released before DMC3 thoughever

>>715125479
back the fuck off

>DMC
>ninja gaiden
>astral chain
>metal gear rising
>bayonetta
>transformers devastation
>hifi rush
>nier automata
>assault spy
>urban reign
>lost soul aside
>GOW 1-3
>god hand
>sifu
>crymachina
>dantes inferno
>granblue fantasy relink
>onechanbara
>sifu
Upcoming titles

>spirit x strike
>mightreya
>hifi rush 2
>lost soul aside
>morbid metal
>ninja gaiden 4

If there's no Mission Results then it's not a real Character Action game. Mashing combos is not what defines the genre.

>>715125975
Forgot Nioh

>>715126259
It's souls cancer

>>715126335
Reddit moment

>>715126507
Reddit loves shart souls

>>715126561
Most Soulsdrones hate Nioh because they suck at it

>>715126121
Neither does result screens. What's your point?

>>715113690
yeah, amazing how such a bad game can sell so much

>>715126693
Rising Zan & DMC1 both have Mission Results. Onimusha is a regular ole brainlet hack n slash

>>715126693
>Neither does result screens.
Onimusha has end of game result screens
DMC1 has mission scoring and obviously style meter to measure score mid-battle
NG1 has a scoring system too (although not a good one)

oof...your argument isn't looking very solid bud

>>715126703
you dont even like guilty gear
shut the fuck up

>>715126830
Onimusha and DMC1 are not in the genre.

>>715126950
Okay shitter. Explain in great detail why not?

>>715126974
No 3-hit swordmaster air combo

>>715126974
Literally everyone with a brain says so.

>>715126830
If end game results count because of Onimusha then MGS1 & Resident Evil 1 would be applicable. Except DMC has no end game result.

>>715127086
>air combo
Why am I not surprised? Juggles don't make for a good JAVs. We despise punching bags.
>>715127118
>Literally everyone
Literal who?

>>715127612
resident evil is an action game yes

>>715126830
>end of game result screens
Kingdom Hearts is officially joining the team

ALttP is my favorite action game

>>715128263
It's a point & click adventure

Is RE4 Cuhrayzee?
Yes

Is the Bayonetta pc port good? I had to refund some games from the steam sale because I didnt like them and was looking for something else and Bayonetta is one of the few games on my wishlist thats still on sale

>>715129349
RE4 chapters don't score you. 5 does.

>>715129579
yeah, it's fine mostly

>>715129579
Bayonetta PC is basically the definitive version

Imagine thinking your epic at combos and all that really ever mattered was running through the levels real fast ahahahHahahahHahhahahHahhahahahHahahhah roflcopter

>>715107124
>MGR that high

nice bait

Next thread we can just reform to a Sonic general.

>>715105056 (OP)
Doctor. Turn off my cringe inhibitors.

>>715105403
Two posts. All it took was two posts for one of you retards to bring up Soulslikes and start bitching. You might as well just move your not-general to /vg/ and brand it /fssg/ - Fromsoft seethe general, because that's the only reason these threads exist.

>>715134924
????????????????????

>>715105056 (OP)
do God of War clones count? this one is pretty good. glad to see a cancelled game finally get released.

>>715107124
Funny how Vanilla NG3 is that high...
If anything, games like MadWorld and Anarchy Reigns are less trivial than Hayashi's heaping pile of shit

>>715135613
yeah of course, we are starving for games here

Code Name Mission Results

>>715137639
Trophy/Medal Mission Results

>>715105767
October 21 2025

>>715123337
Platinum needs work so they'll probably make a sequel in the next 5 years

soulslop would be good if it had perfect dodges, soul time, dodge offset, and weapon switch attacks from nioh

>>715131405
>>715133928
>>715135513
>>715137639
>>715138883
>>715142668
Keep these up anon. Liking the dedication

Did they fix it yet? https://youtu.be/pMhem6M5gWc

>>715142891
nah, there are a couple of mods you should install to fix some things, but overall it's pretty broken still. Idk why dmc fans are so lazy considering how popular it is, NG is much smaller yet modder autismos put way more effort into fixing games

>>715138061
cool, cause when it comes to action games, God of War clones are my favorite. was gonna replay Heavenly Sword at some point. still salty it never got a sequel.

>>715107124
Dmc is not that bad

I wish fighting games weren't dogshit rn

would mork like neo twewy?

>>715144457
Who?

>>715145007
our guy

>>715147316
itagaki? idk, probably not

>>715145007
Mork. You know, the guy who posted that 12 paragraph analysis on mobility options in Astral Chain and then vanished for six months. Legend says he's still optimizing his Bayonetta 2 P-Rank routes.

>>715106164
>strafing around the enemy like dark souls
No More Heroes?

>>715105056 (OP)
Ghost of yotei mogs all of these games

>>715129579
PC > One > PS4/One > 360 > Switch > Wii U

I think Yakumo's gameplay will be better than Ryu's.

>>715151234
>mobility options in Astral Chain
No such thing happened

>>715105403
I hope it will be good and that yakhomo will be a cool character.
But I expect the game to be bad and yakhomo will still be a shit gay character, sadly.
They should just redesign him or get rid of this failure of a character who is supposed to replace Ryu.

>general again
kys

>>715137639
To be fair, with a little tweaking RE6 could easily be a sequel/successor to God Hand.

>>715105403
I still can't get over the design of the new character, how the hell did they think it was okay?
This is crazy to me.

>>715105403
Here's you're new main Ninja Gaiden's character, bro.
He's going to replace Ryu, enjoy.
He look like a kid in PJ's, fucking stupid motherfuckers.

>>715155594
same way the fanboys think Noro is a good character

>>715155839
I mean, I'll take a brand new character, from an entirely different clan as Ryu, over "Ryu, but a soulless ginger".

>>715156197
Just look at the fucking picture, just look at it and tell me that this shit is normal, tell me that this is a good choice for Ryu's replacement.
Look at it.

>>715156307
no such thing as good replacement
make a different franchise if you want to replace your main character

>>715156307
Yeah, he is stylish.

>>715105403
No thanks, I'll pre order nioh 3

>>715119589
bro just say you play on easy because proper difficulties make your clitty get sore and you can't focus while your boyfriend's taking your bussy to pound town, you don't have to pretend like you actually have taste or a nuanced take

>>715156603
I would agree with this.
But seeing this fucking soulless faggot of a character with the fucking title Ninja Gaiden 4 is making my blood boil.

>>715156642
You are either a kid or a faggot, or a fucking retarded wymyn who likes anime and MANGA!!!
Fucking shit, I hate this character.

>>715156836
I dunno, enlighten me. Show me the reasons why Yakumo is bad besides "Muh Ryu".
Because right now, you have zero arguments beside this, and maybe differing tastes.

>>715107882
Well if the action game chart is gonna include literal who indie games and games that are only tangentially related to the genre, it's only fair to do the same for soulslikes
2015: Lord of the Fallen, Bloodborne
2016: Dark Souls 3, Salt and Sanctuary
2017: Nioh, The Surge
2018: Ashen, Darksiders 3, Sinner: Sacrifice for Redemption, Death's Gambit
2019: Sekiro, Code Vein, The Surge 2, Blasphemous, Remnant: From the Ashes, Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
2020: Hellpoint, Nioh 2, Mortal Shell, Demons' Souls Remake
2021: Nothing
2022: Elden Ring, Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin, Steelrising, Salt and Sacrifice, Thymesia
2023: Lies of P, Lords of the Fallen reboot, Wo Long Fallen Dynasty, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, Bleak Faith: Forsaken
2024: Shadow of the Erdtree, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade, Black Myth: Wukong, Enotria The Last Song
2025: AI Limit, Nightreign, Khazan: The First Berserker, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Lies of P expansion
Upcoming: Duskbloods, Nioh 3, Code Vein 2, Mortal Shell 2, Ballad of Antara, that bollywood pajeet game assuming it's real

>>715157008
Are you blind?
If you cannot see clearly what the problem is, then you definitely are one of the things I called you in my previous post.

New protagonists are fine if they put the work. And when I say put the work, I think "Brand New Characters that put bowl of fresh air into a story" and not "A diet version of the protag".
Some examples:
>Brand new characters :
>Rodimus Prime
>Raiden
>Wally West
>Diet version:
>Miles Morales
>Nero
>That red haired guy for the new 2D Ninja Gaiden
Lets see which category Yakumo belongs.

if yakino didn't exist they'd give all his epic gimmicks to Ryu and you guys would complain tenfold, so you better thank yakino for taking a hit from plat

>>715157751
So guys would complain regardless of anything. They complain for the sake of complaining, I don't think they are capable of reflexion at all.

>>715157317
>Lets see which category Yakumo belongs.
S"he" belongs in the shit category.

>>715157317
>"Brand New Characters that put bowl of fresh air into a story
go play a different game and stop ruining franchises retard

>>715114598
yes

>>715157317
>miles
>nero
holy shitpost

>>715158386
Or stop being a bitch? Japanese children were able to accept their characters getting replaced all of the damn time, from Jojo to Mazinger/Grendrizer/Forgotdizer or Gundam.
So why you, someone I assume is 18+, can't?

>>715135513
I'm joking bro

NG3 has the worst fiend ryu in the trilogy

>It's more braindead than alchemist

>It only has i-frames with no strategy

>Insta UT charge

How did he go from shuriken cancel to that ?

>>715158453
Nah, they have the same problem of being "legacy characters" in stories that have no business for those types.
Devil May Cry is something that should be directly linked to Dante, same with the Spider-man alter ego being linked with Peter Parker.
I include Viola in those "unrequited legacy characters type".

I still hold him in high esteem but you gotta admit it's a huge blow to his credibility for someone who pretends to be an authority on action games.

>>715161072
Mork bros....

>>715161072
It reminds me of when I was bad at baldr because I was a tryhard watching speedruns and didn't know how to parry. After I learned how to play I only die because I'm careless. But honestly they're the hardest enemies in the game along with the painters because they don't abuse i-frames and shit they'll parry and mix-up on you. Kinda cool design

>>715105056 (OP)
I have just been literally and figuratively gatekept from continuing my DMC 3 DMD SS rank run by Cerberus. I can't beat this piece of shit boss no damage. I swear this boss is poorly designed, that ice rain attack when he's enraged is just random, I can't even dodge it consistently with trickster. And having to do the rest of the level just to get hit by some random shit from Cerberus is trash. Should I settle with going for just S ranks. Doing this shit no damage is maddening.

>>715161072
how do people listen to him

>>715161336
His only tricky attack is Ice breath, which can also be parried. Man, I love that you can parry everything with a hitbox in this game. Better than that is possibly parrying grabs in Bayonetta. Unfortunately DMC barely uses parry in creative ways.

>>715161072
idk who this is and idc about ecelebs, maybe this is you shilling yourself, but dark souls is actually a pretty poor analog for typical action games because action games promote experimentation with all mechanics to deal with any given challenge, while dark souls is explicitly against this design
in dark souls, you are largely meant to run 1 or 2 weapons, upgrade those weapons, and have a very narrow stat range that heavily limits what options you have in any given scenario

if you take dark souls and remove all levelups/upgrades, like there's a mod for elden ring that does, i think, inherently, the average action game player (someone that really plays them regularly, not someone that plays once and moves on) becomes much more well versed than a typical player, the typical player in that example will still just use the one best weapon while the typical action game player will experiment with dozens of weapons/spells/etc.

>>715161614
Dark souls without ugprades is tryhard shit. ER lets you go without upgrades but that's by design. The game only scales on your level in the Boletaria palace (not bothering to google the name of the stage), outside of that you can go anywhere. That's why samurai has become so OP it has the best frame data and stats.

>>715161614
I mean, Dark Soul is a ARPG. The RPG just so happen to be designed in a such a way that not "dedicating" yourself into a weapon punishes you.

>>715161854
removing upgrades/levelups in this context means balancing the entire game around not having them
please don't reply until you can parse english at a native speaker's level

I've been playing kh recom these days and 2nd Vexen is the first boss that is actually giving me trouble. I can dodge his freeze sleight but the needles one is still hard and the way I built my deck I don't have 0s
I know I could modify the deck but I got close multiple times and I want to beat it like this now. Fucker will wait to play cards but the microsecond I play an elixir he will find a way to card break it.

>>715161539
You mean ice rain? Where the ice shards falls on top of you? Because the ice breath where he freezes the ground is just free damage. I already tried RG and got decently far. His first phase is easy with RG because the ice rain falls in a single spot so you can jump and RG pretty consistently. In his second phase the ice rain keeps falling for longer and in random patterns that track your location so while I could still RG 80% of the time, I would ocassionally still get hit in the recovery by a single tiny delayed ice shard and while it's chip damage it means the SS is gone. It's a pretty shit boss to be honest. I lot of guides just cheese him with guns in the corner. I could do the same but what would be the point, it's not fun.

bump

The Ninja Saviours is a pretty fun bmup, normal difficulty playthrough is a bit whatever, but once you learn how to use your character and play it on hard it's pretty good

>>715165983
*Saviors

Give me genuine arguments for why NG2 Black is "bad" and you can't say because it's based on the Sigma version.

Remember that between OG 1 and Black, there were quite a lot of changes, including removal of certain things. Even if you hate sigma 2, it undoubtedly improved some aspects of the game. 2 Black is a culmination of changes between both games. Namely it keeps every good sigma change (i.e. removing some really bad encounters or bosses, improving bow and bow segments, adding some okay-ish bosses) while restoring original design of enemies health/damage + delimb rate for weapons (while nerfing ones that were too OP). Enemy count is a mix between sigma and NG2, mostly restoring cut encounters and less enemies is an actual improvement in certain areas that were way too lengthy for their own good while providing very little challenge.

>>715105056 (OP)
>ninja gaiden subreddit
>22k followers
>dark souls subreddit
>1m+

It's so fucking over

dmc dmc > dmc v

>>715166582
You are correct but NG2 cultists do not understand nuance.

>>715118550
Yet God of War is Playstations most iconic hack and slash series and more successful.

>>715161357
With their ears. What a weird question.

>>715166582
>tracking problems
>less enemies types compared to vanilla and smegma
>still no windmill and incendiary kunais
>still no bow ut
>IS ninjas still survive izuna drop
>lower enemy count encourage ut spam to afford upgrades
>ue5 slop graphics

>>715167291
pft. I said listen. Not hear.

>>715105403
No hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits no buy

Wake up in the morning feeling like P Diddy

>>715167321
>>still no bow ut
only retards want to stand in one place and wait until the bow charges so they could deal 10 damage with it
>>lower enemy count encourage ut spam to afford upgrades
yeah and the entirety of vanilla encourages UT spam to just play the game

>>715167571
Keep up the good fight

>>715167867
bow used to have on land ut retard and uts arent really needed to play the game, enemies arent sponges unlike in smegma

>>715167321
>>less enemies types compared to vanilla and smegma
Like what? I can guarantee if it was removed it wasn't a good enemy.
>>still no windmill and incendiary kunais
No one cares about windmill and incendiary was used for fights that were annoying
>>still no bow ut
Literally no one cares
>>IS ninjas still survive izuna drop
What's that NG2 nigger? you're complaining that something was made a bit...harder? you can't just easily kill one of the deadliest enemies? boo hoo bitch
>>lower enemy count encourage ut spam to afford upgrades
Higher enemy count encourages UT spam because that is by far the best strategy to clear groups of enemies. Are you retarded?

Stuck through chapter 9 on Mentor for vanilla 2, beat chapter 10 as well. God that fucking slowdown was atrocious. Elizabeth and whoever designed her can burn in hell together.

>>715168610
IS ninjas can survive Izunas in vanilla 2 as well. I think they only die guaranteed if they're delimbed, that said in Sigma they do have a lot of health and can take a hell of a beating.

>>715168118
more enemies + lower health + higher delimb rates = higher chance that your UT will kill a lot more enemies
less enemies + more health + lower delimb rates = lower chance that UT will kill multiple enemies

Higher health enemies encourages you to use more of your moveset but instead you bitch that the canned izuna drop string that everyone knows about and every weapon has and is known for being spammed doesn't kill certain enemies now. Really shows your priority.

>>715168641
>What if we made Alma but more aids

>>715168915
Anon enemies in NGS2 are dumber and less aggressive than in Vanilla. Have you ever played Vanilla?

>>715168118
>and uts arent really needed to play the game
on warrior maybe
>bow used to have on land ut
you still need to wait a bunch, it's not instant

>>715168641
>Elizabeth
Spam flying swallow. It that easy.

>>715168610
>gold vangelfs were a shit enemy bro!
>n-no cared about windmill shuriken
>n-no one cared about bow ut
> you can't just easily kill one of the deadliest enemies
you can just izuna him again. they are only deadly in crowds which are nerfed in smegma
>Higher enemy count encourages UT spam
if you are shit at the game sure
>>715168915
>Higher health enemies encourages you to use more of your moveset
this isnt dmc
>>715169287
people play without uts fine on master ninja . OLUT with the bow is instant btw. play the game.

>>715169731
>people play without uts fine on master ninja
after 3 MN playthroughs that is

Which CAG is the most fundies based, like a bmup?

>>715167571
Anon, your Seori?

>>715170993
This schizobot has been posting the same shit in every NG4/action game thread, ignore him

Reminder this is the father of this genre and the only person who was trying to keep it alive

>>715171479
so he's the reason we have slop like dmc5 and ninja gaiden 3?

>>715171479
hideki kamiya directed rising zan and abalaburn now? damn

>>715105403
i dont buy games that replace the main character
cry more shill

>>715105056 (OP)
>almost a year until nioh 3
I can't wait that long

>>715173227
Not a real action game soulstard

Itsuno knew everyone only cared about mashing in the void so he neutered the everloving sh*t out of the Mission Rankings. It's the only DMC without a Time Limit.

>>715171479
>hasn't directed a game in over a decade
thank you for your service, Kamiya-sensei

>>715174097
>intricate precise complicated combos
>mashing

Go away zoomer

>>715174382
...Anonymous
07/11/25(Fri)11:52:24 No.715174382
>>715174097 (You) #
>intricate precise complicated combos
>mashing

Go away zoomer

>>715174382
I get free SSS for doing launcher -> swordmaster string -> jc -> weapon swap -> swordmaster string -> repeat

>>715173404
I'll continue to mention it, feel free to cry more or something

>>715173227
cute art!

>>715173227
Just play Nioh 2, Nioh 3 just looks like it's gonna be the same exact game but shittier

Waiting for a new NG 4 clip to drop and playing some NGS2 in the meanwhile. Fiend dogs might be overhated.

>>715173227
Nioh is soulsshit garbage.
If you want to play a proper Ninja Gaiden spiritual successor you can play pic related.

>>715176221
dogs are never overhated. doesn't matter the game or genre

>>715173227
From the alpha i'm glad its so far out, felt very rough

>>715105056 (OP)
call me filtered but grab attacks actively hurt this game
every other attack type has multiple ways to respond but grabs?
just dodge lmaoooo it doesnt help that they usually have dogshit hitboxes and crazy tracking, whenever one comes out it just slows combat down
why even have burst counters when you CANNOT use them on ALL grabs?
its just stupid, they suck

I'm glad I will be enjoying ng4 because I'm not a faggot who cries over small changes

Looks better without a million explosions all over the screen

>>715178023
>because i'm a shill
congratulations i guess

>>715178158
Enjoy iframing 200 explosions

>>715178023
>Looks better without a million explosions all over the screen
Says the crying faggot

>>715177804
they do suck and i really don't understand why grab attacks always need retarded hitboxes in every game, but i feel like they impact they had on the quality of the game is near zero

>>715178224
I'm going to enjoy the whole series while you cry

>>715169731
>>gold vangelfs were a shit enemy bro!
Yes? Who the fuck would argue otherwise?

>>715178374
Are you done crying about the incendiary shurikens then

>>715178432
Name one thing wrong with them. Having high damage is not a real problem by the way.

>>715177804
>wtf the game has something that reduces my options sometimes? IT"S SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Glad you're not in charge of designing any video games.

>>715178023
>over small changes
Remember when everyone hated Nero in DMC4 because he was seen as a replacement to Dante and Dante himself got shafted for most of the game?

Yet retards like you think we should eat up NG4 even though it completely sidelines Ryu for a new character that does not play like Ryu being the most basic of basics along with adding tons of other slop mechanics to the game that makes it NOT ninja gaiden. Ryu likely only has a single weapon and we're likely not getting any additional characters (something the series has kept adding and improving with each entry).

>>715179374
New guy is still better than soulslop 90764897

>>715175743
I already have plenty of time in 2. 3 looks like it has potential to be as good.

>>715176475
Don't care

>>715177804
Unironically either dodge or use a yokai core that transforns your whole body

>>715179746
>it's okay if you turn gold into piss, it's still better than shit!

>>715105056 (OP)
Whoever designed the final boss for NG3RE should be jailed

>>715179374
>new character that does not play like Ryu
>literally has the same core abilities as Ryu

>>715180497
This but for every NG boss

>>715180497
The Raped.

>>715176475
Hi, Mork

>>715180494
>noooo it's not the same exact thing as 20 years ago its piss

>>715178023
oh no no no no

>>715180662
>moves the goalpost about the core NG abilities both characters have like GT, FS, OTs, ID, essence, UTs, wall attacks and so on
>acts like you couldnt start charging attacks far away from the enemies in the previous games

>>715180962
Mork would never post something without adding his signature 'haha' at the end of it

>>715116125
Nioh 1/2 and SoP have a great combat system, but everything else is absolute dogshit.

>>715181256
You 4trannies hate everything that isn't slop so that means it's a good game

>>715116125
There's lots of loot because there's some 35 jobs in the game and it's balanced to allow you to switch to any and be able to have your pick of affinities for any other job. Early game when you're levelling up I'd just stick to auto optimize whenever you swap jobs. If you don't like it I'd just refund.
>ngb
That's fine too. Can't go wrong with anything team ninja

Got no more heroes 1&2 during the steam sale but wanted the third game for Xbox. My expectations are pretty low. Everyone says the first game is the best

>>715181582
Wrong. Nioh has strong visuals and character designs. SoP has fantastic RPG systems that compliment the combat quite well. All of their games have great boss design.

>>715181324
Yeah haha

>>715181836
Yea, sure.
Enjoy you're gay game with your shitty new little gay character.
Environments look like shit, they have nothing to do with Ninja Gaiden's easthetic, the gameplay look half baked, the animations look weightless and the characters shown so far look like absolute shit.
But I'm sure it will be great and certainly will meat the expectations of the modern audience, no doubt about it.

So basically action game fans won't be buying Ninja Gaiden 4?

Can’t believe I paid $20 for this piece of shit game

>>715182213
Unironically team ninja make better bosses now than pre nioh

>>715182417
Could've got Astlibra instead.

>>715176475
this game is horrendous, and this cover art is even worse, which is fucked up because they had a decent one for the soundtrack
stupid retards

>>715182417
hey i liked that game! its a fun god of war clone with alot of charm.

>>715182417
It's almost as if unreleased games were unreleased for a reason.

>>715182417
it's better than dmc virgin and wanted dread

>>715181256
Got a blowjob by a woman who looks like her a long time ago. She had a boyfriend but I fell in love with her because she swallowed my jizz and slobbered all over my cock and never called me again. Kinda glad she didn’t want me desu. What a whore

>>715181324
does he really post here...?

>>715182526
My thoughts. Decent game. I actually enjoyed it more than the god of war 3 “remaster”

>>715182687
Nice

could you design a pvp game with godhand type combat?

I think absolver tried but something about it felt too.. slow? no juggle as well, and the defensive options werent snappy

>>715183104
yeah, I could

>>715183104
Doa exists

>>715182845
i actually played God of War 3 for the first time through the remaster. what was changed? as someone who never played the original(didnt have a PS3 back in the day), the remaster was fun for me.

it's... too hot to play computer...

>>715183346
dead or alive??

tfw there will never be another action game combat animation/control system like the way Guts controls in Falcon of the Millennium on PS2.

Easily the best a huge sword has ever felt in a game, shame the rest of the game is designed kinda poorly. Long empty corridors, feels like ticketing between enemies is underdeveloped. The boss fights are cool though

Finally replayed DMC 3 on vard. I am so trash at the game, but goddamn I love it.
Also, shoulder buttons are the way

>>715183661
Not much “wrong” it. I just enjoy god of war 1 and 2 more. The psp god of war game is decent too

>>715184713
oh, both psp god of wars are great. im hoping that we do get a god of war collection on pc, and it includes all 6 original games. also yes i do also enjoy 2 more than 3, mostly for the art design. didnt like 1 at all.

>>715184848
The temple at the end of 1 got tiresome. God of war 2 is my favorite. How do you like the newer god of war games? I played god of war 2018 a few years ago but dropped the game halfway through. It wasn’t bad and I’m not even sure why I stopped playing

>>715161614
Souls is not really much of an action game to begin with, really. They are all designed mainly around the other aspects like level design, the bossfights are just the payoff for overcoming the rest. The combat itself is simplistic and relies heavily on the enemy design more than the player moveset, though obviously you can still do some funky stuff.
It's kinda the inverse of stuff like DMC. Makes me wish there were more games that focused on the same sort of level design and adventure game-like focus as Souls, but also had way more in-depth action game combat like DMC or Nioh.

>>715185173
2 is my favorite as well. i beat 2018. its.. boring. the game seems actively against me killing shit. feels alot more based on exploration and puzzle solving, which i wasnt a fan of. im about halfway through ragnarok and its defi9nitely alot better than 2018. feels more combat focused.

This is completely true.

>>715185919
Sorry bro, depth means long combos

>>715185919
This is the biggest reason why the souls games are good.

>>715186521
But none of that applies to souls? I got through elden without even touching the dogshit crafting system and most newfag players who never played it got through using mimic tear. As for older DS games just pick a weapon and learn to press circle at the right time. Only souls game that realistically applies to is nioh.

>>715184227
You just reminded me that I've always wanted to play this and never got around to it
How's the emulation and translation for it?

>>715186917
Literally all of that applies to souls. Every options is balanced and better at certain encounters, the game is entirely designed around adapting to things and using all the tools available to you. Less so as the series progressed, but it is undeniably true of everything before DS3. Most people being retarded and just using one weapon the entire time doesn't change the game balance, any more than somebody claiming DMC is a trash unbalanced game because you can just spam Stinger.

>>715187543
only ds2 is like this when you need to drop lock on use wide sweeping attacks against big crowds/double bosses

>>715187543
if none of the options are competing for the players attention because there's a clear winner for every encounter (mimic tear) then there's 0 real reason to consider other options. Less so for stuff like crafting in ER when actually getting ingredients is a cumbersome process that forces you to interact with the shitty open world and invest your time for minimal returns. It has options with 0 incentive to engage in any of the systems beyond the bare minimum. I can see people getting involved with all the other options on offer if they are REALLY into the game mechanically but what's on offer in souls is so surface level there's no real reason to go back after you beat it once to try other options. It's an adventure game series where you go sight seeing cool ruins

>>715185919
>Psuedo-feelgood r*dd*t uptoke to feel good about le mashing in a hallway
Live.
Love.
Laugh.

bump

>>715157317
New protags sidelining the original main character are always cringe

>>715183104
The main problem with that idea is that 1. you'd need a blocking system (it's not a problem in itself but god hand doesnt give the player a block to emphasize dodging) and 2. you would need actual movement otherwise it's mostly just two retards playing rock em sock em robots.

If you want "PvP god hand" play a real fighting game like Tekken. God Hand's systems don't have any unique systems to it that would lend itself to being a fun pvp game.

>>715185919
This basically says what i've felt about DMC for quite awhile. When the player gets good at style and weapon switching, you realize that your options actually get very narrow as you're only using the best and most useful attacks from each weapon.

>>715186521
Souls games aren't balanced. Even if you just talk about the balance of the individual weapons and armors there are a ton of best of class stuff no matter what you choose.
In Demons Souls the upgrade system actually balances weapons out more because weapons that have lower stats cost less upgrade mats so you balance damage with time spent since you'd have to grind to upgrade the best weapons to max

>>715185919
Stinger hoard-maxxing player attention.

Beep. Bop boopa doop-

* Beens r*dd*t signals 2 ur brain *

*Dial-up signals intensifies*

*Radio chatter cuts in* - AHHHHHHH you got a choot em in da head remember..........choot em...........aaaaaaaagggggghhh....*crackle*

20 years old a reefer smoker. Buy now and we'll ship 2 for FREE. Play me some reefers. Apartment 32.

J-action character that has 3 arms, uses a samurai sword and a revolver, with a specific focus on quick draw skills. Inspirations: Vergil (obviously), Johnny from Guilty Gear, No. 1 from Afro Samurai

Can't wait for Kamiya to finally be able to make DMC x Bayonetta in 2028

>>715191609
The stones to upgrade weapons are still crazy limited. It's a moot point because if you're actually engaging with the deep, skill expression part of dark souls/ER, the invasions, you are using cheat engine to give yourself an inventory of maxed shit to swap to for your stat spread.

>>715196397
I dont even know how to respond to such a retarded post

>>715184227
>>715187501
Seconding. I always wanted to play it, that and the Dreamcast game look like the only good 'serk games

>>715196614
>look like the only good 'serk games
Dragon's Dogma :)

>>715167321
IS ninjas don't die from full HP to just izuna drop in vanilla either.

>>715181324
No no. It's the ':-)'

>>715161072
I wanna see him fight that room where like a dozen soldier come after you in Lost Bastille.

>>715185417
>relies heavily on the enemy design more than the player moveset
Good

>>715197015
The regular ones do, only the Fiend ones don't.

>>715197774
I know but not quite the same thing I have in mind.

When are we getting Sifu 2 or a Sifu like?

>>715199824
What's there to even improve? Other than more length I guess

>>715194486
The whole Bayonetta fiasco was the funniest shit, and I talk as a yurifag.
I've always found the idea of """""subtext""""""" to be retarded.

>>715200412
shipping tards get what they deserve

>>715200412
>>715201379
Woolie shall never recover

Are we counting crimson desert or not? Sounds like the game has some crazy combo input scheme.

>>715201837
what the fuck is this AI slop

>>715201910
Are we counting crimson desert as an action game or a souly rolly polly? Unless you're talking about the graphics in which case yeah kinda does give the vibe.

>>715144062
play +r or xrd
whiny bitch

It's over

It's over

>>715202076
yeah, play against cpu on max difficulty since the game is completely fucking death, can't even get a match by going into a tranny discord

Is Stranger of Paradise Deluxe worth it? It's $24.

>>715206549
>on sale
Yes