Thread 715121208

Is this game actually good? Is it worth getting on my Steam Deck? What are the best mods?

>>715121208 (OP)
No. No. None.

>>715121307
Seething

>>715121208 (OP)
>mid
>works well on SD
>coomer shit

>>715121208 (OP)
I played the demo. That was enough to tell me the game is mediocre, and the only reason it is popular is because of ass.
If you replace the protag with a male, the game would have flopped.

Pretty sure it’s just gooners gooning
Gameplay seems to be secondary if anything

>>715121442
Yup the demo was a severe disappointment for me as well
The combat was clunky as f

>>715121208 (OP)
the gameplay is better than nier
play the demo, that's why there's a fucking demo
did you know there's a demo that lets you play the game before you decide to buy it? what a fucking concept never been done before

>>715121208 (OP)
yes it's fun

>>715121208 (OP)
I just beat it for the first time, loved it. Combat is really expressive and as brief as the plot is I found it pretty engaging. If this is how clean their first action game is I can't wait to see the sequel, some extra depth this could end up being a big hitter. Really enjoyed the tone/music of the game start to finish as well.
Only real complaints is that some of the open world stuff dragged on a bit since its a lot of desert and the common enemy encounters became way to trivial almost instantly. But the boss encounters were always good and I haven't even gotten to hard mode yet.

>>715121363
Go to bed

Is NG+ worth it? Does putting it on Hard make the game too annoying if I had to retry the last 2 bosses multiple times on Normal?

It's a Sekiro/Jedi Survivor like. It's not as refined as Sekiro but it's more polished than Jedi Survivor. Pretty fun

>>715123667
>plot is engaging

... wut? It's just a more convoluted take on R.U.R. Aside from the stylistic inspirations from the likes of The Matrix, etc then really it doesn't bring too much to the table.

it's a genuinely great game, don't listen to seething trannies. the combat is great. the demo doesn't do the game a favor at all, it gets so much better a few hours in. the music is 10/10
not sure about the steam deck though I played it on a high end pc

>>715126606
There's no benefit (besides fun, if you're into that) for doing it on hard.

>>715121208 (OP)
Have you tried the demo?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3564860/Stellar_Blade_Demo/

>>715126606
yes because of all the outfit variations and you carry everything over so it goes fast
ng+ hard mode isnt really harder than your first run on normal, it's actually easier since you know how to play even if the bosses have more hp

>>715126757
>this is actually shit if you compare it to every book and movie ever created
>oh and it's also similar to nier and other games too
You must be fun to be around.

The gameplay is fine, but I kept waiting for a standout boss and it just never came. Everything else except for the coomer shit is hot garbage, especially the story and dialog.

>>715126965
I didn't say it was shit. I'm saying the plot is unoriginal and rather predictable. There's other things going for it, like the gameplay, exploration, and music. Learn to reading comprehension.

>>715121208 (OP)
It's a bad real game. It's a decent gooner game. You can get mods to make the gameplay slightly more fun but overall it's just mid. You can get 60 fps on a steamdeck LCD surprisingly. Buy it if you want to goon and for no other reasons.

>>715127104
The voice actors who did the English lines seem to have done one take only and said roll with it.

>>715126965
He's right. There is no depth to the plot at all. It's extremely predictable and you get it within the first 20 minutes of the game. Also there is never any dramatic tension. Events just happen and the characters don't care or do anything. Any time it brings up an idea, it then quickly just leaves that idea to rot like the loli sidekicks dead gf. There is nothing there for the plot.

As for the combat, it's quite possibly the worst part. It's one of the worst combat systems in terms of design, and shit like the instant kill shoot them now sequences are cancer.

>>715127456
There are a shitload of translation errors in the English lines. 90% of the misconceptions about the story probably come from that.

>>715127456
The Japanese voice acting is just as bland. Eve never shows emotion even when shes "furious."

>>715127576
>shit like the instant kill shoot them now sequences are cancer
sounds like someone has bad aim
just use the Welcome-Back pump if you can't get those

>>715121208 (OP)
depends on who you ask
normal people?
its dogshit
rightoid incel timmies?
best game ever made

>>715121208 (OP)
There's a demo out so you can try and run it on the deck.
Don't know about mods though since I'm a console peasant.

>>715121208 (OP)
not really

>>715127671
Something in a game being beatable doesn't make the game well designed retard. I beat the video game. It's not less shit because I did.

>>715128031
Did you really play all the way through a shit game?

>>715128031
sounds like someone's having a melty that they wasted all their slugs trying to break the monster's armor and didn't have any to shoot the yellow circles

>>715127576
What was the plot of the game?

>>715128140
Dude is probably a game journo with his shitty gaming skill.
He probably will like the game more if the game had function where the game skips all of the combat.

>>715128131
Eve had a nice ass and I kept staring.

>>715128196
Humans made AI and then tried to kill it, so the AI made artificial humans and began to kill all the humans. In response the humans turned themselves into next stage of evolution monsters and the AI and humans are fighting until Eve takes the dick of the last man on earth and becomes a real girl

>>715128313
Considering the combat was terrible probably. Even worse I played it directly after NG2 Black, which for any problems it has, is vastly superior to Stellar Blade. It even has superior goon material, because the girls have actual asses and their faces don't look as weird as Eves. In short just buy Ninja Gaiden instead.

>>715128196
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R.#Plot

>>715128403
so a literal ripoff of Nier

>>715128625
Have you seen this play performed before?

>>715128403
Raphael (Adam) made Mother Sphere. He used her to kill off most of the humans with machines (those machines you see walking around, the faggot turret bots and the baton twirlers). Raphael then stuck all the remaining humans underground to turn them into Naytibas. Mother Sphere then started the EVE Protocol (Adam and Eve do you understand the reference) which was intended to merge Raphael (the Elder Naytiba) with the most advanced version of Mother Sphere's androids, allowing him to finally transition to a woman like he wanted for the last thousand years.

>>715128746
It's not remotely similar to Nier.

>>715128493
Why do you find the combat bad? And if you say it's soulslop then your opinion is discarded.

>>715128403
Humans did make the AI, but they didn't try to kill it at first. The AI made artificial humans then turned on humanity, then humans tried to kill it. The rest is mostly correct except that's only one of the endings. But that's a lot of the background of the plot. The actual plot just follows EVE and her journey through the game to discover the truth of the world around her.

>>715128493
I've been in the Action Threads before. Ninja Gaiden isn't very good.

>>715121208 (OP)
Good? No. Serviceable? Sure. The only reason you should pay for it is because it's impossible to pirate for the foreseeable future

>>715121208 (OP)
Why are you asking 4chan? This is like going into an insane asylum to ask their opinions on astrologists? Go to YouTube or the game reviews

>>715128746
What's NieR: Automata plot? I assume you meant Automata cause Nier isn't popular yet has the better story.

>>715121208 (OP)
It's Dollar Store Nier Automata story with Dollar Store Sekiro gameplay stapled to it. Neither halves are as good as what they're ripping off, but the end result isn't bad

Should've been a Nikke game honestly

>>715129140
not the same as this one, that's for sure
oh look they have... robots!?!?! that's literally nier automata?!

>>715128967
The problem with the combat is that it feels extremely unresponsive, because the way animation canceling works (or doesn't work) in the game. It greatly buffs parries, and makes the game primarily centered around those, with the exceptions of attacks you have to put the square peg in the square hole for. Combine this with a complete lack of variety such as in weapons, styles, or anything, and Eve's very limited amount of attacks that all blend together and serve the same function, and it leads to a clunky feeling boring system. It would be an improvement if it was "soulslop" because it isn't trying to be that at all. It's trying to be an action game, and doing a very poor job of it. As I said, I had literally just played NG2B, and if you play both it's night and day how good the characters in that control compared to Stellar Blade. I also have been doing the Jet Stream Sam DLC again, and once again, Stellar Blade feels horrible in comparison. There is no bias nor nostalgia either. I'm replaying the games right now within the last month. If I did go off memory though, there are a multitude of other games that compeltely mog it. Even something more basic like Onimusha Dawn of Dreams.

>>715129076
And I've actually played action games, and Stellar Blade is not a very good one.

>>715129172
>Should've been a Nikke game honestly

This actually. It's kind of upsetting because Nikke proves the devs know how to write an interesting story with fun characters, but for some reason chose not to do that this time around.

>>715129172
How is the plot remotely similar to nier automata?
Also I am really surprised how nobody mentions the Christian themes in the game.

>>715129365
>wow we named everything hebrew shit so deep

It's because they are almost entirely irrelevant.

>>715129365
It's a dollar store version, which means it borrows the superficial themes, aesthetics and ideas but stops before getting into the actual interesting stuff Automata has to offer. Which is well enough, since it's evident the writers wouldn't be able to measure up to Yokotaro anyways. The problem is that it replaces Automata's deeper themes of humanity, identity, grief and sacrifice with...nothing, basically.

>>715129325
Have you been in the Action Threads?

>>715128818
No, it doesn't get many recent productions. I did however check out the script from the local library out of pure curiosity since it lays the foundation for much of contemporary science fiction like Blade Runner.

>>715129365
Wow a korean game has random biblical/hebrew names sprinkled in? Stop the presses lmao

Nowadays if you're playing a game and read the word 'qliphoth' or 'sephirah', chances are it's some korean nonsense

>>715129624
No and I don't care about them.

>>715129276
How does Eve have very limited moves when she has 3 pages of attack moves that each have their own utility. Funny you mention MGR when MGR has extremely limited movesets even for an action game. Eve has lights and heavies each with their own mixups, 4 beta skills with upgrades you get later on NG+, burst skills, 2-3 different counters for both parrying and evading, 4 different contextual defense systems.
For fuck's sake sekiro literally only has the basic light and heavy, a single parry button, and just very niche ninja tools.
Never mind what MGR has.

The only sin I have with SB's combat is the lack of animation cancelling because it forces you to commit to attacks and punishes overly aggressive behavior because some bosses can decide to hyperarmor through your attacks.

>>715129676
>Japan no longer does this as much
>Instead, for whatever fucking reason, everything is now Irish

I mean I guess japs always liked small asses.

>>715129676
I have also noticed that trend kek, they sure love their kabbalah mythos. Also a ton of medieval alchemy namedrops

>>715129354
A lot of the same ideas exist in Stellar Blade as they do in NIKKE. But NIKKE uses a lot of unvoiced text cutscenes with still images in bit sized servings to tell its stories.

>>715129354
From what the director said they didn't have the time.
They developed the combat system first then developed the story and ran out of time

>>715129701
You don't spend time in a thread that's dedicated to talking about action games, even though you are a player of action games, and instead choose to spend your time in a thread about a game you think is not a good action game?

>>715130034
That makes sense. Well let's hope the success of this game allows them to make a better sequel then

>>715129671
How much of modern science fiction derives from that play?

>>715129746
Eve literally has one weapon, Raiden has 4, and he has more sub weapons. I already mentioned how contextual defense works. All of Eve's tools, like different parries and counters all fundamentally do the same thing. MGR also has two characters. Raiden is far more responsive than Eve, movement is better, handling multiple enemies is better, and it's parrying works far better. The first thing you show in your webm slowed down is a person mashing parry when they shouldn't have to because of how the game is designed. And Sekiro, while simple and not my favorite action game, is just all around better designed than Stellar Blade in every way.

And that sin you mention is the number one most important thing for an action game. It greatly shifts emphasis to Eve not being someone who attacks, but instead is far more reactive because of the dangers of overcomitting. Contrast that to Ninja Gaiden, which has extremely active and dangerous enemies, but the solution is never to just stand there as Ryu, that's actually the fastest way to die in the game.

>>715129676
How many many Korean games have you played to notice this pattern?

I bought it last year on Ps5, played it for a few days and didn't touch it until last week. I'm having fun but it's not as good as other action games. I don't really like how parries work in this game and dodge seems to only work when it feels like it. Quests are kinda dull and boring and most rewards are pretty lame. It's a solid 7/10. Eve's a cutie at least.

>>715129746
The hitboxes are the best of any game on the planet, and it's not even close. Soulsfags have invisible dangerzones and the webms they post are fucking atrocious.
Unfortunately, the actual combat is too punishing and fast-paced to let you use those hitbox dodges effectively. Just look at your webm, they were all accidental and she even tries to block immediately afterwards.

>>715130094
Because 8 years ago, when I used to frequent /v/ far more than I do now, back when homosexuals refused to call things "character action games" because it sounds extremely gay, all the threads ever were was people arguing that Devil May Cry was a terrible game, Ninja Gaiden was the best game ever, and could Bayonetta kill Dante.

Considering you retards call them character actoin games now, I can only assume the threads are even worse now than the past, and I have no reason to join them. I joined this thread because OP asked if they should buy this game I've played and gave my opinion.

>>715130334
So, you don't like the community of people that talk about action games on /v/?

>>715130269
The reason why souls games have more punishing hitboxes is because in souls there are multiple ways to make yourself invincible, so are expected to use them to mitigate damage, in most scenarios not simply step out of the way.

>>715121208 (OP)
it's a bog standard modern console action game
if you've played any of them you know what this one plays like, except this one has tits and ass
admittedly, that does make it more bearable
>>715129172
>should've been a Nikke game
fucking this

>>715129565
And the nier automata comparisons is also interely irrelevant as well because the plot has not similar at all.
>The problem is that it replaces Automata's deeper themes of humanity, identity, grief and sacrifice with...nothing, basically
Because again it's not tying to do any of that. The story, or what they are trying to do, is to show Christians undergoing crises of faith, especially when desperate pleas for divine guidance are met with silence and universal apathy. The basic gist of nier automata was machines thinking humans were as gods. Stellar Blade is about man creating God then God decides to destroy man.
>>715129676
The references are actually pretty neat if you dig deeper.
>I know why the developers added the twist to Adam's true origins and identity as Raphael Marks. Because you see, according to the Bible, Raphael (whose name comes from the Hebrew phrase "God is healed") is the one of the archangels who has the ability to disguise himself as a human (like in the near end of the game) and is revered as the patronage of healing and protection of travelers (much like how he saved and healed Eve for the purpose of merging with her and healing the world that was destroyed by his own Naytiba plague)

>And also according to Jewish Kabbalistic astrology, Raphael is commonly associated with the sun and also associated with the man who is part of the tetramorph, which is the four arrangement of symbolic elements representing the four legendary creatures envisioned by the Prophet Eziekel (which is in parallel with the Prophet Orcal who requires the Alpha Cores to locate all the four Alpha Naytibas throughout the game).

>This constant symbolism of fours can be easily represented by the name of Adam's transport ship ("Tetrapod") and explains the fact why you needed four Alpha cores to create one Master core in order to open up the Naytiba's main nest (and why you need all four Hyper Cells to wake up all the androids in the cradle of Xion)

>>715130538
I don't like /v/ at all.

>>715129746
That looks pretty nice and it's great that the hitboxes are accurate, but you ain't pulling stuff like that on purpose.

>>715129276
You may not like the way Stellar Blade plays, but you don't seem to accurately describe it.

>>715130661
does anyone

>>715130661
And yet you're here. Hypothetically speaking, if there were a NG2 Black thread up, would you go to it?

>>715130661
Lol why are you here then you cuck.

>>715130674
That's why the game forces you to commit to attacks in the first place because the hitboxes are fucking clean. You know how Eve does a sommersault with the triple heavy combo? That's a free evade if you can time it right. Isnt the main criticsim being that all the moves serve no purpose than to do damage?

looks very good probably the best game you've ever played

>>715130212
>All of Eve's tools, like different parries and counters all fundamentally do the same thing.
Well when you boil it down like that, you can apply the same logic to most defense mechanics in action games.
Still there are key differences.
>Parrying
The safest form of defense in SB, it can deflect nearly all attacks. Cannot defens against ranged attacks and it puts you in place
>Dodge
It has no iframes, but it moves you and repositions you. Used for avoiding ranged attacks.
>Blink
Repositions Eve behind the enemy and stuns the enemy, allowing you punish the enemy
>Repulse
Kicks the enemy away from you, stuns them, and exposes a yellow weak point that massively increases gun damage damage on the target

Meanwhile in most action games, defense mechanics mostly boil down to press button to not get hit. Besides this is not an arpg, you cant expect every move to have some sort debuff or buff.

>>715130795
If a person made a thread saying "I have a steam deck and am considering getting NG2B, is it worth it? What mods does it have" I would enter the thread and say "Yes. It also has mods to make it more like the original, but I controversially think blacks design is better than the original NG2, as someone who played it on on Master Ninja"

>>715131201
Also as mentioned. You can hate how the game plays or flows, but it is what it is. Personally I love it. If you find it slow, that's what the various gears are for. You can equip 2 speed gears and go full sanic. If not the game has dozens of combat mods on nexus that do all sorts of tweaks like animation cancelling, moveset replacers, or being able to parry and dodge at the same time.

>>715131269
I mean, in general, would you want there to be a NG2B thread up so you could discuss it since you seem to really enjoy that game? Like a thread solely dedicated to NG2B.

>>715131201
>Well when you boil it down like that, you can apply the same logic to most defense mechanics in action games.

No.

First off your reply doesn't even address the actual parries and counters in the game. Blink and repulse are irrelevant. They are square peg square hole mechanics.

Parry itself is what initiates counters. In hyper mode or whatever you want to call it you get a new parry/counter combo. Those are separate skills off the skill tree. In most action games your defensive options do not do the same thing at all. Take Bayonetta. You can perfect dodge in Bayonetta which can be dodge offset, but you cannot dodge offset a parry. Also jumping has different positional consequences than dodging itself. Devil May Cry is another example. Trickster, Royal Guard, and Jumping all serve very different purposes for what Dante will be able to do next. In your example, you gave Eve's actual defensive tool that you are supposed to use 90% of the time, parrying, dodging which has a very specific purpose, and two mandatory defense mechanics if you want to guarantee not getting hit with the screen glows a certain color.

>>715131420
Like this one especially is really cool. Incorporates tachy mode's mostly ignored moveset and mixes it up with some of Scarlet's moves
https://www.nexusmods.com/stellarblade/mods/682?tab=images
https://youtu.be/R0tnEPg_Dxs?si=idusgYP94-BhxXv2

>>715121208 (OP)
If you care about more than fat robot asses, play Lies of P instead.

>>715131420
I did try some of the mods that "improve" the combat, and I think some are successful. That's not the game design itself though. It's like FF16. That game has pretty bad combat, but with the PC version and mods you can make the combat actually pretty good. That's not the game itself though, so when asked about the game unless asked I'm not going to bring it up.

>>715131732
>They are square peg square hole mechanics.
What does this mean? Isn't a parry just a Square Peg Square hole mechanic as well? Use Parry when you can Parry.

Also, why are you in a Stellar Blade thread talking about all these action games you've played instead of spending time in the Action Thread? You seem so knowledgeable about action games, yet avoid talking to other people who are also very knowledgeable about action games.

>>715132026
>What does this mean?
It means something is happening on the screen that you have to respond to with the correct solution to. In Devil May Cry, every attack that comes to you you can use any defensive mechanic you want to deal with it. If the enemies in Devil May Cry turned shiny purple, and got ready to punch you and your only response was to switch to Royal Guard and time the guard, that would also be a square hole square peg mechanic. The shitty DmC game was full of garbage like that.

>Why are you...

Because we are talking about game design. I already explained my opinion on the game to OP, and now people are asking me to justify my stance. I am doing so, while also providing examples to contextualize my statements. In other words its a discussion. If people didn't want to have it they would stop replying to me. If they did I would drop it. Otherwise that's the point of being on a image board. To talk about shit.

>>715131834
Well that is why OP was asking for mods wasnt he? Mods are still relevant to the thread. Also the webm I posted was from the demo, just using VR.
>>715131732
I think it depends on how you look at a game's design. DMC has I daresay clunky defense mechanics but it's there to allow you to attack more. However the caveat is that it's also completely optional. I beat nearly all DMCs without ever using trickster or royalguard because of how annoying it was to constantly shift stances just to access moves I wanted.
Meanwhile SB is a very defense oriented game and has little room for player expression as many action game players here prefer because the devs want you to solve problems a certain way. But in this way, the game is harder, for me, because I have to pay attention to what I and the enemy is doing at all times instead of just trying to combo an enemy to death. Granted you can do that in SB too and I unironically hate it. Enemies getting staggered with no way to fight back feels really cheap somehow. I think this is one thing the TN games did right where you and enemy is always in a brutal dance of death.

>>715132343
>It means something is happening on the screen that you have to respond to with the correct solution to
>boss attack turns blue
>blink
>interrupt with beta
>iframe with burst
>literally just dodge and run out of range and dash back in
I dunno about you but I see a few options present. that is unless you never left the demo.

>>715132482
>I think it depends on how you look at a game's design. DMC has I daresay clunky defense mechanics but it's there to allow you to attack more. However the caveat is that it's also completely optional. I beat nearly all DMCs without ever using trickster or royalguard because of how annoying it was to constantly shift stances just to access moves I wanted.

This is valid criticism. In order to make the game as free flow as it is, you need to be able to deal with every threat in the game by jumping. Unfortunately the series never really went in a more aggressive direction against that.

>Meanwhile SB is a very defense oriented...

The reason I bring up NG is because it's similar to this but it's just done better. Somebody brought up Sekiro as well, which also does it better. Stellar Blade is just clunky and feels awkward to control, and the systems don't seem to work together in a harmony that strikes a balance to elevate the game to being good. It's not the worst thing ever made, but I would be very disappointed if they didn't address this and try to improve it in Stellar Blade 2.

>>715132343
I get how the color-coded attacks are limited to only one response. But parries are limited as well. They're less limited than the yellow/blue/purple attacks, but they still have their holes they can fit into. You may as well say the parries are a Square Peg Square Hole mechanic as well.

>Because we are talking about game design. I already explained my opinion on the game to OP, and now people are asking me to justify my stance. I am doing so, while also providing examples to contextualize my statements. In other words its a discussion. If people didn't want to have it they would stop replying to me. If they did I would drop it. Otherwise that's the point of being on a image board. To talk about shit.
Yea, but I just keep wondering why you don't want to discuss games like Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, DMC, etc in the Action Thread where its purpose is to discuss those games. You seem to be very knowledgeable about those games and it seems like it would be a perfect fit for you there. So far, all you've suggested is you do not like their response to your thoughts on those games, which is odd. Cause wouldn't you want to test your knowledge of the games with other people who also have a lot of experience with those games? Don't you want to have discussions with people with advanced knowledge of the topics you're familiar with? Also, why haven't you answer my other question here >>715131579 You didn't respond to that post and continue that discussion.

>>715132584
Also that seems to be something people forget. Betas are not only your damage dealer attacks but are your main source of creating windows of opportunity because they either cancel whatever an enemy is doing or it knocks them back. It allows you constantly keep attacking as you please. With beta recharge gears and exospine you can stunlock bosses really hard.

>>715121208 (OP)
It's alright. As an action game it's a solid 8/10.
Unless you/re horny, then it's fucking great 11/10.

>>715132584
>literally just dodge and run out of range and dash back in

Bad choice because your dash has an 8 second cooldown and you don't get a stagger.

>interrupt with beta
This is strictly sub optimal because you can do beta after blink and that is the correct option always. Also this doesn't work on some later multi-hit attacks the characters do in NG+ and at the end of the base difficulty.

>iframe with burst

Still strictly sub optimal. There is no reason not to do this after the enemy gains poise after you get your free stagger damage. The only reason you wouldn't just blink is a misinput.

>>715132707
Honestly I feel like it only feels awkward and clunky because of the transistion and reset to neutral animations. SB suffers a lot from this where there are downtimes where you and the enemy just stare at each other. It ruins the pacing of the fight. If both Eve and Enemy were aggressive and attacking nonstop, I can see the rhythm game mechanics being really fun. Like playing O2jam or dance dance revolution but its an action game and youre tapping several buttons every second just to keep up.

>>715132995
>If both Eve and Enemy were aggressive and attacking nonstop, I can see the rhythm game mechanics being really fun
What about this? >>715130679

>>715132748
> But parries are limited as well. They're less limited than the yellow/blue/purple attacks, but they still have their holes they can fit into. You may as well say the parries are a Square Peg Square Hole mechanic as well.

Because that would be disingenuous. Technically, Eve never has to attack. She can just sit there and just parry until she wins as long as she does all the other QTE's correctly. But parrying or not parrying attacks is one of the only parts of the games combat that is remotely "free," in that it's not always optimal to just parry, because Eve literally can't do that if you want to actually attack. The color coded attacks are designed to have one optimal solution to the problem you should always take no matter what state you are in prior.

>Why don't you want to join a general thread

As I said I don't like those kinds of threads and they have never been good in over a decade using 4chan. They always become reductionist circle jerks.

>>715133091
>As I said I don't like those kinds of threads and they have never been good in over a decade using 4chan. They always become reductionist circle jerks.

What is a reductionist circle jerk?

>>715121208 (OP)
It's just boring and bland, just like every game that's super popular with chinks
If you are ever baffled as to why some seemingly milquetoast entry is shilled to high heavens, it's because of chinks

>>715121208 (OP)
it's nier automata without le heckin deep story and actual gameplay

>>715132995
If Eve was more responsive in general, even if nothing else was changed I do think it would just immediately feel like a better game. There are even some mods that do that to a degree for certain things, and they do just make it feel better. The obvious "good" step would be making that more responsive and less animation locked Eve, but also making the enemies "compatible" with that so the game doesn't become super easy.

>>715133161
Katawa Shojo generals on /vg/

>>715133091
You always want to parry when you can parry in Stellar Blade. There's no downside to it. You could just stand there and parry, but you can also attack and parry. The parry can only be done in certain circumstances. Square Peg in Square Hole. It's more varied than Blink and Repulse, but Yellow is just dodges which is just another form of parrying, really.

>>715132884
>have multiple options
>one of them is most optimal
color me surprised

>>715133292
Could you explain what a reductionist circle jerk is in relation to the Action Thread general?

>>715133216
Honestly a simply solution would be to rework charge and just turn it into a generic stinger with no cooldown. Stingers are great in action games because they serve as on demand gap closers as well as combat fillers to start up or restart failed combos.
While were at it, just add launchers as well. They can even give Eve aerial finishers and if they want to add more qtes. This is one game where I dont mind qtes because half the enjoyment is oggling Eve.

>>715133442
What do you think about this webm? >>715130679

>>715133345
>Yellow is just dodges which is just another form of parrying, really
Its actually a lot harder because not only does dodge start super late, its not as instantaneous as parrying. I almost never pull it off because of how tricky dodging is in this game. There no iframes at all so you only ever use it reposition or move around quickly.

>>715133442
Yeah I can't understand why they put it on a 8 second cooldown.

>This is one game where I dont mind qtes because half the enjoyment is oggling Eve.

Only reason I beat the game. I honestly wish more of the QTE's had more gooner shots than they did.

>>715133549
Parrying and dodging negate attacks. They take what would be damaging to the player and turn it around on the enemy. They are different in from, but produce the same function. Blink and Repulse are very specific variations of that mechanic. All four fit into a similar role. So, to me, they're all quite the same in purpose.

In form, they're different. How they feel to the player and how they look are not the same. And the variety used in different permutations often tricks players into imputing the wrong Square into the wrong Hole.

But as far as how the dodges work compared to parrying, yea. You don't want them to feel the same. And yea, it's not the same as other games. Why would you want all games to parry/dodge the same. Wouldn't you want some variety in the experience. What matters is how the whole experience works and if the separate parts together produce an experience that's fun. That will come down to preferences a lot of the time.

>>715133091
>>715132343
>>715131732
I still cannot get over how someone thinks to themselves, "Yea, I play a lot of [genre] games, but I don't want to hang out in [genre] games thread. Instead, I'll go to [bad example of genre] game and share my thoughts there.

>>715133782
Parry just reduces the incoming damage, not negates it.

>>715134065
>finish playing game
>want to talk about it
>see thread about game
it's not a difficult concept to grasp

>>715136110
I think it's very odd. The person thinks very highly of the game. Often comparing it to other games. In fact, most of the posts spend more time talking about other games than the game they just finished. You'd think they would just want to go talk about the games they liked rather than the game they didn't like.

Would you want to spend your time talking about games you don't like over games you do like?

>>715136054
I think he means perfect parry but yeah. Whiffed parries or blocks reduce damage based on your current shields.

>>715121208 (OP)
I heard it has no replayability. True?

>>715121208 (OP)
story is bad
exploration is okay (the yellow paint is egregious)
music is good
combat is good
fan service is good

i'd recommend you get it on sale. try the demo at the very least.

>>715136335
Have you seen the OP?

>>715136370
No? The game wants you play up to NG++ because that's how outfits are distributed. You also only get your skill upgrades and better heals in NG+. And since the game has no manual save slots you need to play the game 2 or 3 times to get all endings and achivements.
Also the game has a boss challenge mode if you only want to fight bosses.

>>715136451
Yea, would you want to spend your time talking about a game you didn't like, filling your posts mostly with discussion of how other games play rather than the game the thread was made for? Would that be enjoyable to you to spend more time on a game you disliked instead of discussing games you did like? Did OP ever reply to anyone?

>>715136649
have you really never compared something to something else?

>>715136649
Yea, would you want to spend your time talking about a poster you didn't like, filling your posts mostly with discussion of how they post rather than the game the thread was made for? Would that be enjoyable to you to spend more time on a poster you don't understand instead of discussing games you did like?

i dont own a switch but i hate when people bring up the steam deck
NO ONE CARES THAT YOURE PLAYING ON ONE

>>715136967
Oh sure. But I don't go into threads of games I don't like to spend much of the thread discussing how that game pales in comparison to other games. Had I spent a few dozens hours on a game I disliked, which I wouldn't do because I hate playing games I don't like and wouldn't last more than a few hours, I would want to forget about it as soon as possible and move on with my life. In respect to video games, I prefer to spend time with the video games I do like and the discussions around them. The bad games, I just try to move on from quickly.

That's just me, but it makes sense. Imagine someone spending a lot of their time just talking about how bad a game or games are all the time instead of talking about the games they like. Those people do something I am calling "Hate Gaming".

>>715137146
I actually am in other threads talking about games I like, but I'm so intrigued at this point at this poster that doesn't like to spend time in the Action Game thread because they're "a reductionist circle jerk" yet likes to reduce action games to their elemental parts as part of their evaluation process. I am very interested in this person's opinions.

>>715137324
>I'm confused that everyone isn't exactly the same as me
Thought it was garden variety autism from the get go desu

>>715137324
To be fair, that person spent quite a lot of time talking about games they did like, you even said so yourself, it really seems like you're just attacking them because they have a different opinion to you

I dont understand. Is the OP even here anymore or is this a different anon talking?

If you played Nier Automata it's basically the exact same game, right down the music style even.

>>715137448
No, you're right. I shouldn't expect that. But how else would I discover how different people think without asking them about it?

>>715137529
Well, that's the thing. I haven't been asked my opinion about the game. I've only been wondering about why it is someone would spend their time in a thread of a game they didn't like talking about a bunch of other games they did like.

Is that what you would do? Go into a Palworld thread talking about how Palworld sucked compared to Pokemon? Or would you go into a Pokemon thread to talk about how much you liked Pokemon and maybe occasionally mentioned why Palworld sucked compared to it.

>>715121208 (OP)
The game is pretty mediocre. First I'll wait for the sequel of the Raven's story, only after that I'll buy it

>>715137826
>Music style
You have never made past the tutorial then because it's mostly metal, kpop and maybe county and blues for the desert areas.
https://youtu.be/XwG8P-eZBJ0?si=ZnIiV_9ZXsESikjo
https://youtu.be/xBARz0HOEnQ?si=TBxx51Uehl4iUv6N
https://youtu.be/lyoyGO2sBQQ?si=FwVLJvoMuTS_gMWB

>>715137913
How do you know its mediocre when you havent bought it? You cant pirate this game.

>>715137836
>Go in thread to say if someone should play game
>Say its combat sucks but its a good goon game
>somebody ask to elaborate and not use the word soulslop
>I do and use other games as references to illustrate my points
>You are now really confused why I would mention other games in a Stellar Blade game thread
>You are even more confused why I don't want to go to some random general thread

I don't see how this is confusing at all. You compare things to other things as a frame of reference and I am in a thread talking about Stellar Blade because I just played it and this is a board about video games to talk about video games.

>>715121208 (OP)
Gameplay was pretty solid for me, combat especially because it gives you a lot of options.

Lore is cool, imo, but the way the story is delivered is ass.

>>715138072
Also hypertube
https://youtu.be/-eLDzraETF0?si=DnXxQFo4JJ0IKVr9

>>715137836
No, you haven't been asked that, but instead you've spent ten posts taking about some anon that you'll never meet instead, Is that what you would do? Go into a Palworld thread talking about how some anon sucked compared at Pokemon? Or would you go into a Pokemon thread to talk about how much you liked some other anon and maybe occasionally mentioned why the OP of a Palworld thread sucked compared to him?

>>715138072
Also plenty of EDM
https://youtu.be/Wv3zUY2F8nM?si=Xg8B_8JyHsE_G4hi

>>715121208 (OP)
Eh get it on sale

anyone else think it's weird that eve's sword is called BLOOD EDGE and not... you know... the stellar blade?

>>715138159
Yea, but you clearly didn't like the game and decided to spend time in a thread about a game you didn't like rather than going to talk about games you did like, specifically the general about all the games you do like, but don't like to spend time in because they are "a reductionist circle jerk" even though you seem to like being reductionist yourself.

>>715138257
But I have met that anon. I'm talking with them right now. learning more about them with every reply. And if you really are so concerned about my concern about that anon, then I'm beginning to become concerned about your concern about my posting about how I'm concerned about that anon.

But if you would feel better if I instead started talking about Stellar Blade, would you like to join me in changing our discussion to the game?

>>715138901
You have some weird advanced form of autism and are insufferable to deal with. Avoiding weird autistic people like you is one of the main reasons to avoid those general threads, by the way.

>>715138819
That's because the stellar blade is Raven. Eve sword is blood edge because it use naytiba blood to recharge her beta energy. Meanwhile notice how Raven literally glitters during combat.

>>715139068
So, you're not a reductionist like those autists in the Action Game thread?

>>715139068
But your here anyway so you must like autistic people in general.

>>715139113
wtf... raven is literally my wife...

>>715138819
I honestly didn't know EVE's sword had a name. Is that in the Data Bank or something?

>>715139161
it's on the weapon cores. says it increases the damage of blood edge.

>>715139138
I thought autist were going to start posting pictures of Eve's ass if I stuck around, not interrogate me as to why I don't want to join their sekrit club.

>>715139113
>>715139147
edgy femcel wife...

>>715127650
>>715127590
>>715127456
Use korean Voice retards
Its great

>>715139438
word, this is my favorite part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgni8Q_seYQ&t=91s
i like the way she says 아무것도

>>715139363
goddamn this bitch looks hideous
nikke really gave her a glow up

>It's just like Nier Automata!
t. retard who never played Nier Automata

>>715139254
You should've just asked for pictures of EVE's ass instead of diverting discussion away into games you like that are fawned over by communities of autists you do not like. It helps avoid bring in autists like me when I see fans of those games discussing those games autistically like the people in the Action Thread.

I love my wife Eve.

>>715139692
You have autism and I don't care about your opinion on anything.

>>715121208 (OP)
Crack status?

>>715121208 (OP)
As some anons alredy said the story is really bad
But I had fun with the bosses and sidequest
I give the game a solid 6, fun game but nothing special

Did everyone enjoy the NIKKE collaboration? I sure did.

tachy eating my ass
eve sucking my balls
raven sucking my dick
lily sitting on my face

>>715123667
AI post.

>>715139783
I may have autism, but at least I can admit it. Besides, do you really care about the opinion of anyone in this thread that would disagree with your opinion?

I'm always skeptical of korean games because they all love that autorun stuff and the combat is just a nuclear bomb going off for a basic punch ability

>>715139859
>Lily sitting on my face
That depends if her butt is really big and curvy. The bigger the better.

>>715139923
Have you tried the demo?

>>715140003
we can mod it

>>715139857
It's awesome yeah. Thats really how you do a collab event.
https://youtu.be/HTmocsy5SKc?si=3NGEeieebogc5KqC
I love scarlet so much. She better come back in the sequel.

>>715138119
this is not a AAA product, 1-2 streams give a full picture of the game. Raven is the only character that remains interesting after the finale. The developers' decision would be stupid if they left her to rot and be forgotten.

>>715140089
i don't like that they didn't give her that goofy way of speaking like in nikke

>>715140238
She does sound like it in JP at least.
https://youtu.be/SEtCIlNo_pc?si=dkLr6ZdIuIvrFrSI

>>715140218
Raven MC with Iberis sidekick. Trust

>>715140428
i mean using goofy words like 'forsooth' and stuff

It's alright, combat is fun but only really in boss fights. Regular enemy fights are unbalanced and largely a time waster. The combat wasn't designed for group battles at all.
And time waster is how I can describe a lot of the game. You have worthless collectathon bullshit in an uninspired, empty open world with a checklist of side quests and random shingledingles. Enemies only exist to inconvenience you as you run around looking at sand and rusted pipes.
And the cutscenes, every little interaction is designed for maximum tedium and as if giving every mandatory interaction a little animation wasn't enough, there are multiple places where you can make Eve do some animation for no reason other than taking screenshots.

It's good in the linear sections like the demo, but as soon as you hit the open world it's dull and uninspired. Halfway through the game also loses all the cute puzzles and replaces them with shitty platforming. And when puzzles show up after that, it's always of the "find box and drag it for 45 seconds" kind.

What the fuck is that Scarlett fight?
Do I really need to avoid every single one of her attacks in the final phase or instantly die?
That's some fucking bullshit. The clunky ass dodge is not designed for fast combat.

Is NG+ worth it?
Do I need to replay al the sidequests again for that stupid Lilly meter?

>>715142691
there are a few new skills in ng+ plus you can replay it in hard mode for more challenge. you do have to refill the lily meter, but if you already did it once, why do it again? unless you are collecting outfits and need eidos 9.

>>715142421
You have to parry the final attack in the dance sequence otherwise its an ohko.

>>715142927
I did it once but apparently I got the wrong ending

>>715121208 (OP)
Reminder that Mother Sphere did nothing wrong

>>715143398
did you reject adam's offer?

>>715143430
Mother Sphere the qt

>>715121208 (OP)
>Is this game actually good?
Yeah it's actually way better and more expansive than I thought it would be.

>Is it worth getting on my Steam Deck?
Much harder to recommend for Deck in particular. It runs on a Steam Deck but if you really want to go beyond 30FPS you're going to get very, very mushy visuals and basically max heat / power consumption on the Deck. I tried setting it up for 30FPS with lower power consumption and heat (and sharper graphics) and while it works fine this way it felt nearly unplayable. A pretty big part of the combat system is hitting perfect parries or perfect dodges, I went into a boss time for the first time on my Deck at 30FPS and I kid you not I got like 5 attempts in and I don't think I hit a single perfect parry / dodge. It felt like I was pressing the buttons at the right time but nothing was happening.

I switched to my desktop PC where the game runs at 100+ FPS at 4k native (it's quite well optimized) and I beat the boss on my 1st try on this system. It's hard to recommend strictly for Deck gameplay, the Deck is a bit too slow and the gameplay REALLY suffers if you go down to 30FPS to get some decent battery life out of it.

>What are the best mods?
Haven't used any yet.

Also the game has a demo, you can just try it out. That's what I did before I bought it. Your progress in the demo carries over to the full game, the demo is just the beginning of the game proper so there's no reason not to play it first.

>>715143498
yes
It's really retarded that you side with Lilly, but actually her meter didn't matter for it at all lmao

>>715143983
yea, the meter only matters for the accept ending.

>>715121208 (OP)
i played the demo and eve felt more like piloting a tank or a giant mech than dark souls or elden ring. i know she has a fat ass but women are supposedly supposed to be more agile and than men. i didn't mind it but the game ended up being way easier than either of those games. i would need to put it on max difficulty or get a hard mode mod to enjoy it more

>>715144107
They patched the hard mode to be accessible from the start.

>>715143551
My rightfully genocidal AI can't be this cute!
is that mod working any better by chance?

The combat (against bosses) is fantastic. It feels REALLY good using all your tools to just fuck with bosses and overcome their bullshit. The environments (besides the 2 desert areas) are generally nice looking and Eve looks good and has nice animations. The story is just kind of there and the characters are paper thin. The music bounces between grating and background noise. Overall I liked it, but the combat carries very hard.

>>715144223
How does it work with upgrades?

>>715126687
that's a pretty good way to out it

>>715144398
I assume NG+ equipment is still only in NG+, if that's what you mean.

>>715144382
>but the combat carries very hard.
>combat is all about parryslopping and dodgeslopping
>carrying it hard
Damn, we've reached a very low point.
Nioh 3 can't come out any sooner.

>>715145027
In the context of the game it is. Why do you fucka hate defense options so much? It reminds me of when people used to constantly bitch about witch time.

I predict that this thread will be necrobumped every time it reaches page 8 for the next four hours

>>715147225
Bump.

so is hard mode a ng+ thing? I am on my first run and I entered the spire after feeling that Demogorgon was a bit too easy to kill after raping him with beta and burst skills and I saw that I could rank it up to hard?
everything felt way way tankier and beating all the spire bosses and Raven felt like a struggle, mostly Raven with her 2 hit kills. So why was I able to rank it up to hard in the middle of my first run?

>>715150201
a shit meant Belial, not Demogorgon

>>715150201
Yeah. Hard mode initially only unlocked after beating NG.

Stellar Blade is a really decent game, I'd even say it's remarkably well done
Obviously not a masterpiece, but still competent enough

>>715132748
>Yea, but I just keep wondering why you don't want to discuss games like Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, DMC, etc in the Action Thread where its purpose is to discuss those games.
If you've been in these threads, you'd know it's all jerking off Ninja "loop these 3 invincible moves until all 30 enemies in this shoebox die and then proceed to next shoebox with 30 enemies" Gaiden 2 and denigrate anything else.

>>715121442
Same here, was pretty excited for a pc version, until i played the demo and changed my mind real quickly.

>>715130658
>Stellar Blade is about man creating God then God decides to destroy man.
That's not even remotely close to what Stellar Blade is about. Mother Sphere is following Raphael's plan.

Game started freezing after 10 minutes and causing my entire PC to blackout after working perfectly fine for 40 hours before that.
And it's the only game that does that.
Guess I'm not doing NG+.

>>715157427
Mine did that in Palworld because it's summer and it was overheating.

>>715157794
I ran furmark for 30 minutes straight and had no issues with heat.
It reached the same temps as SB.
Also my PSU is less than 6 months old so it can't be that.

>>715157915
That sucks. Hope your PC is doing ok.

>>715121208 (OP)
Would buy on 50% sale

If you are faggot or lesbo, you will hate it.

>>715157161
Yeah I'm sure Rapheal foresaw that the AI he created would realize that humans are obsolete compared to machines.

>>715121208 (OP)
buy a ps5 and experience true ecchi gaming

>>715162123
>true ending literally has Mother Sphere saying how she's doing everything for her father
Yeah, that was the whole fucking plan. Every ending confirms this.
>return to colony shows that MS could have wiped earth out on a whim, she doesn't say EVE Protocol has concluded
>cost of memories she states that EVE Protocol has concluded (Adam and Eve merged)
>making new memories she states that EVE Protocol has concluded (Adam and Eve merged)
Yes the omnipotent AI that has space structures that probably have more mass than the entire planet could only send a bunch of retarded androids down to earth to try and exterminate the remaining humans. That makes a lot of sense.

>>715121442
/thread
It's a case of Chinese gachafag plays the first real game of his life and thinks it's a masterpiece.

>>715163845
Nah I think it's a great game because it's the only game since MGR to have hype music. I guess Sonic Frontiers exist but nobody talks about that anymore.

>>715121208 (OP)
>Is this game actually good?
It's fine.
>Is it worth getting on my Steam Deck?
I don't care.
>What are the best mods?
You don't need any mods.

>>715161173
I watched lesbian vtubers playing it and they loved it.

>>715164708
Also before you say DMC5, Bury The Light doesn't actually play during Vergil's own boss fight despite every single video showing the fight with it playing. What a wasted opportunity.

>>715164895
>vtubers

>>715165374
Problem sir?

>>715121208 (OP)
depends on your definition of good
i like the game but it's not a must-play

>>715121208 (OP)
It's basically Nier Automata but the combat is actually good.

>>715161173
Why would a lesbo hate a game with a sexy female MC?

>>715161173
The game literally ends with yuri. Why would they hate it?

>>715121208 (OP)
It's essentially Nier with a subpar story but better gameplay if you don't enjoy hack and slash.

>>715167393
It's significantly worse than automata's combat.

/v/ doesn't like it because it is infested with trannies who endlessly seethe over this game and have done so since it came out last April.

>>715168958
No it's not. Troon

>>715121208 (OP)
I liked the story

Eve is married to...Maciej

>>715170831
Nowicki