What went so horribly wrong?

It didn't feel as fun to play as the first, despite the gameplay being "better". Clunky as 1 was at times, it did make you feel like a space marine. 2 made you feel like a regular grunt too much.

>>715164636
>It didn't feel as fun to play as the first, despite the gameplay being "better"

>>715164513 (OP)
Helldivers 2 was simply better and the market was too competitive to the point where Space Marine 2 was just flushed out like other FOMO games

>>715164513 (OP)
I wouldn't say "horribly wrong". Good overall execution, decent visuals, but the amount of content is downright pathetic. PvE is repetitive and boring, PvP is an equally mindless grindfest with no endpoint. The campaign is shorter than a boomer's temper in a Walmart line. Things get stale very fast.
Also, it is optimized like shit, had a really rocky launch and requires you to be online even for singleplayer.

>>715164513 (OP)
This game was defended so hard becasue it was Warhammer thats it

>>715164513 (OP)
Setting
>1 year since release
>already out of steam

>>715164513 (OP)
>Make a Warhammer game
>The first enemy faction are Nids, who have zero character unless you delve into the psychic aspect of them (Which SM2 vehemently avoids)
>The second are Thousand Sons, who specifically only have character 1/10 times due to ALL IS DUST LMAO. Even then they had to shove in Renegade Guard just to act as roster filler because TSons can't really ally Daemons in now.
>Campaign is literally just a glorified ad for Ultramarines and to wank Titus as the new invincible face of 40k
>Even then, major bosses like the Hive Tyrant and Heldrake are relegated to Operations, probably because the devs were rushing to get the campaign done
It's literally just made so GW can have people not familiar with 40k ohh and ahh over Muhrines. Same as Secret Level. There's no actual depth to any part of it aside from visuals.

>>715164513 (OP)
High price, low amount of content.

>>715165154
why does /v/ glaze warhammer so much?

>>715164513 (OP)
>slow as shit
>3 hits to kill a small nid
>micro stutter to emulate "hit feeling"
40k is washed up

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing. It's a superb game. Why don't you say what you didn't like about it and I'll tell you why that makes you gay.

>>715165154
This game would have gotten panned so hard if Warhammer wankers werent defending it hardcore muh space marines muh gore muh muh plastic toys

What a fucking shit fanbase

Why is /v/ so agasint Warhammer in general now? Is this a troon raid thread? I understand hating Games Workshop for ruining the IP but how can you hate Warhammer? Its pure kino when GW didnt ruin it

>>715166050
Contrarian. They'll shit on someone chainsawing someone in half then praise horsegirls running in a track.

If it's gay they pretend to like it, if it's cool they pretend to hate it.

>>715165946
this was my issue too. Everything felt like a sponge

>>715166050
Can I just say Warhammer is overrated edgeslop praised by chuds who try to tell me 40k is bad now since muh liberals but they will still defend it no matter what

>>715165691
>TSons can't really ally Daemons in now.
Why not?

>>715164513 (OP)
gameplay has no staying power, it is good but nothing you play for a long time

>>715166215
Edgy shit will always be cool.

>>715166128
That just means shitskins & gooks (all 3rd worlders) have flooded the website. But, I already knew that soooo

>>715166268
Yeah, look at the demographics from 2010 or so compared to now. A bunch of sissy boys on here now.

>>715166363
>>715166268
>WARHAMMER IS FOR MANLY MEN WHO LOVE TRUMP HAHAHAHA I LOVE SPENDING $909239292 ON PLASTIC TOYS AND JACKING OFF TO LORE!!!

>>715166430
You dragged politics into it. You're so gay. Warhammer is just cool. Chainswords are cool. Terminators are cool. Orks are cool.

End of story.

The combat and balance is fucking awful.

Its a horde game with ZERO ability to actually manage or control a horde. inb4 skill issue, it has nothing to do with that. The weapons are all weak, the melee is clunky and unresponsive, the "parry" is unrewarding and the window is weird and inconsistent. I fucking loved the first game even though it also was very flawed, but SM2 has some of the lest rewarding combat Ive ever played.

Interestingly, the new siege mode has brought every flaw of this game to the surface. Seeing a player getting swarmed by multiple raveners, a lictor, with a zoanthrope pelting them is hilarious because their only option it to run away and occasionally pepper an enemy when they have managed to get a little bit of distance on it. There is no tool or strategy for them to actually deal with this enemies, they have to run, it takes fucking forever, its horrible.

My little human veteran from Darktide could murder Titus with a fucking shovel. Thats a game that knew how to make a horde game and make the player actually want to fucking be there.

>>715164513 (OP)
retard devs still think drip feeding content keeps people engaged, in a market already so over saturated with alternative multiplayer games

no one sees "wow what an amazing length of support this game has coming in the future" they see "wow this shit got no content and im finished already, onto the next game"

>>715164513 (OP)
Honestly, its still better than d*rktide, and is a pretty fun PvE game when playing the nids. The problems are mainly that chaos is shit to fight and the game was rushed and clearly needed another year of dev time. PvP is basically tacked on, siege is terrible because its just one map and you can't turn chaos off. A third game is already confirmed confirmed, so maybe it will be better. /v/ won't talk about it though, because /v/ warhammer threads are filled with outcast /tg/ spergs that just want to larp as/fuck Eldar.

>>715166552
The parry is extremely rewarding what are you talking about? On my class I get a free execution from in every so often, and gunstrike gives me armour.

I think you might just suck.

>>715166496
Old warhammer is cool. Nuhammer sucks, especially after the last novels

The game has no cover system and that's a big cool feature but they still overtuned ranged enemies like crazy so everyone just stands awkwardly behind scenery like they've been caught publicly masturbating while the sniper takes on the ranged attacks only enemies like zoanthropes.

>>715166814
I don't care about books I'll never read. In SM2 I can chainsword nerds into chunks. The gameplay is aggressive and fluid. Who the fuck cares if some dude I've never heard of wrote a bad book?

>>715164513 (OP)
My PC can't run it

>Power Fantasy
>Dying to shit you were supposed to parry from offscreen
>The big guns running out of ammo waaay too fast
Friend of mine said horde mode is good but I just usually accept what the opposite of he says as truth and it works out.

>>715166050
>Why is /v/ so agasint Warhammer in general now?
>implying it's /v/
>Is this a troon raid thread?
Yeah. Has been for a while now. Mentally ill eunuchs really hate Warhammer for some reason.

>>715166986
Too masculine I guess. They probably complained about the Gears being too jacked back in the day too.

>>715166050
>but how can you hate Warhammer?
By being heterosexual with functionning sex drives

>>715166750
>doesnt argue any other point except parry feels good

Nice to know even the games fan just accept that the combat is fucking awful.

>>715167052
>Too masculine I guess.
>all protagonists in 40k genetically engineered eunuchs

What a disappointing piece of shit unfinished hunk of fucking garbage this shit was. Anyone defending or claiming this game is good is a 40K faggot fanboy of the highest degree, it’s McDonald’s Sekiro but fucking worse somehow. Terrible guns, terrible melee, loading screen out the ass, shit optimization, retarded mission/game design, grindy as fuck with no substance, and a community that of course eats up whatever half assed slop the “devs” add.

Nothing? It's a single player first and foremost, and it was very well received for a warhammer game
all the tacked on multiplayer content is just a nice-to-have
Everyone who was interested in it played it and moved on

>>715167116
The games comba this utter SHIT. That anon is a fucking retard that basedfaces IRL at parry “mechanics”. The classes are terribly designed dogshit, it’s why they’re constantly reworking shit like perks, because the “devs” themselves can’t be fucked to play their own game.

>>715167116
Crowd control is going to vary based on your class and weapon. Different weapons have different cleave values. Your retard ass probably used a grey weapon with no cleave then cried about CC. I don't struggle with it as a rule.

Watch decent players play then come back to me. I didn't respond to the rest because it's mostly subjective stuff about your feeling which I don't care about.

>>715167195
Lol just say your pc is shit.

>>715167052
>They probably complained about the Gears being too jacked back in the day too.
>they
Back then it was fat bluehair tumblrinas. But tumblr sjw "movement" was sunk by GG, and trannies were brought in instead.
Honestly, I find the whole thing flattering. Every day, thousands of these creatures get out of bed and dedicate hours upon hours of their lives to shilling here, only to be mocked and laughed at. For months on end, 4chan is the sole occupant of their thoughts, their raison d'etre, their validation. Scraggly soiboys, ugly whales, dickchoppers and other dregs of humanity dedicate huge chunks of their lives to trying to disrupt us and the only thing they have managed to do is provide us with entertainment. All their frothing rage, coordinated shitposts, all the time and effort sunk into us have yielded no results.
Knowing there are people out there whom the very fact of me and a bunch of other dudes simply having discussions on some forum sends into paroxysms of rage keeps me sleeping like a baby.

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing. Its a fun single player game, with some added multiplayer if you're really starved for more. It was never meant to compete with the likes of darktide and helldivers

>>715167296
>It's a single player first and foremost
It's designed as a coop game. If you pick single player you get coop with bots. And I know someone is going to say the first game had friendly NPCs too, but they weren't there half the time and they weren't trying to be substitute humans when they were.

>>715165806
Because it's the 2nd best scifi setting ever made.

>>715167372
I have 3 classes maxed out, which was as much of this games shit combat as I could handle. Im not confused about cleave values or anything else. Im not confused that the perks are borderline useless on most classes. However, the fact you're implying that only weapons with high cleave are viable is just a tacit admission that you also agree the combat is poorly balanced.

>I don't struggle with it as a rule.
You don't even have the confidence to say you don't struggle with it without a caveat lol.

Watching decent players is not required, I have no doubt there are people with low IQ and a lot of patience that are perfectly willing to band their head against this games god awful implementation of everything (except customization, which they did autistically well and should have used some of that effort in designing their combat).

The game is objectively poorly balanced and janky, this is common sentiment. The fact you can even muster the fucks required to argue shows you pretty much agree. bro loves the game so much he cant even bother to give his own subjective opinion on how it isn't shit. All he can do is say he find the parry rewarding (it isnt).

It has a gameplay style I can only describe as artificial, constraining, and shoe-horned in. I haven't played in months, but I had >100 hours and did most of the content. Most of the weapons are either anemic or unusable with about 1% being good (aka broken) and thus required unless you want to sandbag. GRinding for unlocks is also anti-fun because the only reward is playing more of the same slop. Customization was pretty cool though, and the pvp was fun in a throwback kind of way.

>>715166232
Allying rules are finnicky as fuck now if you aren't an Imperium faction.
Basically for every non-basic Daemon you take, you need to take a full squad of that God's associated basic Daemons, so you're looking at a >100p tax of a unit that doesn't get any special faction rules to run a bigger creature that also doesn't benefit from faction rules.
So for instance to ally in the Lord of Change from the Campaign, the Tsons would need a squad of either Blue or Pink Horrors, which are 125p and 140p respectively. Then the Lord of Change himself is 260p. So you need to run ~400p of your army (a fifth of an average 2000p army) which doesn't benefit from faction bonuses or be targetted by Stratagems.
The only way around this is to play a SINGLE subfaction which overrides those rules because it's a designated 'Play Tsons with Daemons' detachment.
It's still pretty clear though that the 40k team doesn't want to shill for Daemons, since every Daemon that isn't Vashtorr is actually a Fantasy/AoS kit and thus doesn't count as a sale for 40k. Daemons aren't even getting a codex this edition, likely for that reason.

>>715164513 (OP)
For me it was the lack of content and what was there was far too long for MP. I want shorter engagements and more variety.

>>715168239
I said the game is superb further up. Everyone struggles sometimes or the game would be too easy. You should watch someone who isn't ass to understand how awful you are. I use a weapon with almost no cleave because I like fencing weapons. You misuse the word objective, the word you meant was subjective.

You're retarded, this is common sentiment.

>>715168917
Only problem here is that everything is tied to faction keywords. You didn't really lose anything by bringing alternate troops. They were just different infantry, not a break in the mtg-style synergy keyword system.

Demons never should have been their own army anyway though.

>>715164513 (OP)
>>715164513 (OP)
MP most people didn't care for. And if devs wanted to put such emphasis on it, maybe they should've more effort into said content. You could tell co-op missions were just shit cut from the main campaign.

>>715169372
It's one of those things where AoS legitimately handles it better by just mixing the Mortals and Daemons for each God together.
Lately though it's felt like GW has really pushed to remove the 'mystical' aspects of 40k in favor of harder science.

>>715166215
>edgeslop
nobody from an outside perspective actually sees it as edgy, meds and HRT now

>>715164513 (OP)
They should not have made ultramarines the focus for operations while you're color schemed like Optimus prime. Should have been death watch ops and take you to different worlds with different enemy races. We need more variety, more gametypes and more marines on screen so you actually feel like a squad in a suicide mission. 3 players seem so minimal for a wargame where you see hundreds of these fuckers. They should have made a more grandeur multiplayer like battlefront 2, with scenarios, ai and players pouring on the screen. I want to be in a drop pod and land on enemies, I want to be in a predator tank, I want to be in a titan (or its guns), I want to be in a dreadnought and wreak havoc. It's not farfetched to do a similar points system where you are rewarded for your efforts in the same match. I wonder what Warhammer would be like if dice was let loose on it without being chained by EA bullshit.

>>715164513 (OP)
it was fun but
>story i meh at best
>Orks from first game were more fun to fight and kill than tyranids
>most of the range weapon is just different variants of bolter
>melee combat isn't ''meaty'' enough
>thousand sons should got better introduction
>we go in to necrons ruins but we don't fight necrons
>campaign is made with co-op in mind and the AI is retarded

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing, the game was fun and pretty cool. If I want a multiplayer game I'll play Helldivers 2.
99% of the playerbase / views of the game were from the campaign, not for the MP or whatever else there was.
If they really wanted to focus on the MP, then only having 3 maps and ~3 gamemodes wasn't a good starting point

>>715170418
>>Orks from first game were more fun to fight and kill than tyranids
Why is that?
t. guy who wants to play 2 eventually

>>715164513 (OP)
copied other games instead of trying something original that actually fit 40k Space Marines.
would have preferred if it had no dodge button or a very limited dodge button and was designed around tanking the hits or using other gameplay elements to counter hits
Also the wokeness really takes you out. Ultramarines used to be almost 99% white but now 2/3 of the team has to be "diverse"
Also all IG characters have to be ugly girlbosses now.
Super Cringe

>>715166814
have you looked at the GW Plus shorts?
99% of those are about girlbosses or minorities, with white men being exclusively sidelined to weaklings or bad guys who get bearen up / rescued by said strong wyman or minorites.

>>715166050
>Its pure kino when GW didnt ruin it
but we are discussing new ruined GW Warhammer prodcuts? I don't understand what you are complaining about.

>>715170475
The game was loading screens and elevators mixed with Press R3 to le heckin epic awesome! Garbage gameplay. Shit game, shit taste.

>>715170535
The overall enemy design is just outright bad and Chaos utterly sucks to fight against as a whole, Tyranids are better to fight but unfortunately you’re still playing SM2 at the end of the day.

>>715168917
That's disheartening to read

>>715169329
>superb

The absolute fucking standards of 40k fags Jesus Christ, the game is bland dogshit dude, you enjoying said dogshit publicly is sad.

Tried too hard to turn it into generic parryslop when it just needed to be God of War (PS2) with a gun

>>715164513 (OP)
I watched a no commentary playthrough and the game looked boring as fudge

>>715166642
Darktide shits on this fucking game any day of the week even with Fatsharks retardation.

People were spoiled by the depth and breadth of WH40k Rogue Trader. A short FPS campaign just wasn't enough.

This game is the kino package:
>campaign
>coop mode
>some pvp

Play it for a while, move on


That’s the point of this game.
It’s like an old school 360 type release.
The only reason someone has a problem with this is related to “toxic masculinity” or some shit, which…lol. Lmao, even.

>>715171504
this is bait

>>715167372
>PC is shit

Worthless nigger can’t even argue against every other point that was made. Thank god you’re rotting your time away on Slop Marine, it tells me everything I need to know about the way you smell.

Don't mind me, being the best 40k game
No it's not that one, that's called Deathwing

>>715164513 (OP)
Same as the first Space Marine, it's only fun if you play it on the harder difficulties. Otherwise the repetitive nature of the game really starts to seep in. As far as what the game did wrong:

-Execution attacks make you invincible for the duration of the animation. That means the most optimal way of playing is to spam execution attacks as soon as any enemy in your vicinity becomes vulnerable, which means you'll be seeing the same animations again and again. This is in contrast with the first game, where execution attacks made you vulnerable so you had to use them sparsely in rare opportunities as a way to recoup health
-The devil trigger thing is too weak and charges to slowly. In the first game it was powerful and could be used frequently, so it was the primary mechanic you'd lean on to recover health and engage in melee with large groups of enemies.
-Tyranids are just inherently less appealing than orcs(even though they're really well executed in the game), and chaos is kind of lame to fight overall. Having Tyranids + Orcs would have been the way to go, but I guess the writers feel like they need Chaos for the story or something
-Having access to just one main weapon+one sidearm is kind of lame. They should have either kept four weapon slots or made it so you could have any combination of two weapons and not be forced to always have one sidearm
-The game has this weird issue for me on PC where sometimes the textures won't load. Doesn't seem to be contingent on the load or anything, sometimes there's a lot of action going on and the textures will behave fine and other times it's just Titus in a tiny room and the textures take forever to load in

Anyways that's my two cents. I do think the game is a lot better than it's given credit for since most people will play it in the lower difficulties and you really need to bump it up for the gameplay to be engaging

>>715164513 (OP)
It's fine. Standard shooter that you play, move on and forget in a month.

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing you just dont like being an astartes against impossible odds. This games problem is more the fact everyone who is still playing it is awful at it
>>715164892
>the game that thought being a top down shooter was too hard for investors so they changed their genre so retards would flock to it is better
Shut the fuck up & kys

>>715171615
You just call shit terrible with no further description. You get what you give.
>>715171357
Enjoying things takes balls, bitching doesn't.

>>715171768
>I'm a big man for liking slop
How low is your IQ?

>>715171571
Campaign is bland, Co Op is shit due to the game design, and the PvP is an afterthought.

>old school 360 type of release

Retarded excuse for a poorly designed game priced at $70 + live service shit. There’s barely any masculinity in it with how gay the characters are, find a better scapegoat.

>>715171825
Tell me 3 games you like then if you're not a pussy.

Recently I enjoyed Stranger of Paradise, SM2, and Enders Magnolia. I have no problem saying that because I know I have fantastic taste.

>>715164513 (OP)
parryslop

>>715171958
>BUHHH BUHHHH PUSSY BITCH ASS NIGGA
I'm not playing around with you, anon, I'm just informing you that you're obviously a dummy.

>>715171768
Here you go, you illiterate disingenuous pussy
>>715167195

Keep sucking on those dicks, utter loser

>>715165071
>The campaign is shorter than a boomer's temper in a Walmart line
Thats heckin short! Up voting this got a chuckle out of me fine sir!

>>715172025
You just use negative adjective then noun. You don't explain yourself at all. Terrible opinion, terrible brain, terrible anon, awful gaylord.

>>715172024
Because you're a coward. You call something bad but won't say what you think is good. The only explanation is cowardice. Naming 3 games would have been less keystrokes.

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing, it was a very fun PvE game with some engaging PvP on the side. This is what an actual super soldier fantasy should be, a game with class diversity. Not whatever Halo is now, an example of what an actual failing super soldier fantasy game looks like. Space Marines completely shit on Spartans now

>>715168917
>TFW I'm a T.Sons/Birdfag
>TFW my LoC has largely existed to never be fielded due to hyper focus fire in some degree
>TFW I can't even field him or my mutlaith anymore

I hate this fucking game.

>>715172193
I can't believe you're actually this serious about the drivel that drips from your fingertips.

>>715172304
You're so scared it's hilarious. You won't name a single game you like.

>>715172193
Pffff what a retarded silly little nigger boy you are, can only deflect. A very expected response from your typical Slop Marine 2 fan, they’re own worst enemy and proud about it lmao

>>715172213
>Marines have a designated "Kill any target on the board within range of basic intercessors each round" army ability
>So you can't play big boss models into Marines
>Marines are also by far the most popular army
Shit sucks.

>>715171679
who is this goddess

>>715172304
Behold, the stalwart Saber dicksucker, whose one wish in life is to die with a World War z shaped dildo in his ass.

>name your favowite 3 gamez!
>bet you won’t *snort* that what I thought pussy!

Insane people this retarded breathe the same air we do.

>>715172456
Anon, I just don't take orders from retarded shitskins on the internet. You lost when you started calling people pussies and making demands like a nog.

>>715172693
>goddess

He has a cock and balls

>>715166948
the fact that you *can* run out of ammo in this game setting is retarded beyond belief anyway.

>>715164513 (OP)
the gameplay

>>715172553
Explain what you think deflect means. I'm saying your argument was shit then I'm directly attacking your character. Neither are deflecting.
>>715172750
Don't be a pussy and you won't get called one.
>>715172715
It shouldn't be so hard to name 3 games you like. You're either scared or you don't play them. Either way you're trash.

>>715167372
Why are there 'grey' weapons in the first place? People don't want to grind hours just so they can unlock a variant of ONE weapon so they can actually play the game. Grind of any kind ruins games and this one is particular is very bad about it.

>>715172950
>more PUSSY BITCH NIGGA ETC
I can smell the cocoa butter through the screen

>>715172786
Ok but what's her name

>>715172950
Get better material brown hands, the words you type are as stale as the games combat loop.

Also:
Darktide
Ninja Gaiden 2
SC Chaos Theory

Feel free to strawman and call those games shit so you can continue your embarrassing deflection campaign while you’re also totally not seething the entire time lol

>>715173237
Male Mcboy

>>715172204
>halo out of nowhere
lol

>>715173039
How soft are you that you can't handle being insulted on 4chan of all places. You would have fucking melted if you were on here in the old days.
>>715173027
That's a fair argument, but I'd argue you're being subjective because all of these games have that loot treadmill.

>>715173245
All three of those games are fantastic, but most critiques of SM2 also apply to Darktide which I personally consider a downgrade from Vermy 2 in most aspects. We all wish every game could have combat as good as NG2 but that's not the world we live in.

>>715164513 (OP)
It's a very simple game stretched out way more than it needed it to. At its core the game plays like classic Double A 2005 Hack and Slash that was more causual then your usual sweaty Nija Gaiden's or DMC's.

This is not a bad thing. In fact, it's what made it so great. The problem was them turning such a simple game into this weird halfway GaaS thing with updates and a timeline, expecting players to put upwards of hundreds of hours.

>>715173361
>How soft are you that you can't handle being insulted on 4chan of all places.
I'm literally sitting here smiling the whole time because you're a retard and I can casually & guiltlessly insult you, anon. The fact that you can't see this is part of why I'm making fun of you. I have no problem trading blows like this, I just think you're a low IQ nog who thinks he has a point when he doesn't, so I'm egging you on.

>>715173558
cuck

>>715172025
You are a retard, you are terrible, you are the biggest fag in the room right now. Big claps for you.
>Calling anon "disingenuous" while your single cell brain couldn't come up with actual valid arguments other than using the first objectives that immediately came to you.
I don't know, I might agree with you if you could tell people why the guns and melee are terrible, etc. You know, for example, 3 hits to kill a Gaunts like this anon here managed to do >>715165946, which I completely agree that being too much.

>>715173558
This is the gayest post I've seen on here in a long time. Sounds like something a smug 16 year old would write. Now man up and answer the question like the other kind anon did. You can see now I'm not going to just shit on whatever you list.

>>715164513 (OP)
Too short, too few enemy types. Story felt rushed. The whole chaos arc was kinda ass too.

I still desire an Eldar game.

>>715164813
Not that Anon but is it so hard to imagine?
A game called firefighter 8 but the gameplay is just Elden ring, no fighting fires at all.
Would it be a fun firefighter game?

>>715173706
>DO WHAT I SAY RIGHT NOW!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No

>>715173558
Mind if I join to post reaction images to laugh at you as well because I think you have negative IQ and zero arguments?

>>715173850
>Mind if I join to post reaction images to laugh at you as well
N... no... it's okay...

>>715173797
I genuinely can't tell if you just don't play videogames or you're terrified to share your genuine opinions. I'm fairly sure you're a teen at this point though, or just irony poisoned.

>>715173914
Why are you crying? What's going on?

>>715174016
>I don't understand why you won't take orders from me. Is it because you're a child?

>>715174031
>Why are you crying
thinking about the emprah.....

>retards are STILL seething this game was a hit

>>715174149
Irony poisoning maybe. I don't care that you're trying to make me mad, but do it honestly. Call me a fag while arguing your game is better than my game. That's why this website was created.

Nothing, it's a great game. The ebb and flow of combat is great and when you get into the rhythm of combo > parrying > gunstrike > excute in a horde of enemies you feel invincible.
Chaos missions suck though. Fuck tzaangor spearmen. Can't wait for chaos spawn to be introduced so they'll spawn less often.

>>715174016
We've all been there anon. Go easy on the lil fella.
But to be honest, the main gameplay doesn't click with me for the following reasons:
>As someone else said: 3 hits to kill a Gaunts
>10+ bolter hits to the head of a Warrior to kill it
>Too many hit-stop
>Execution too long, like, it should be just one single quick lethal hit with more gores to signifies "executed" and no cinematic camera angle. It really takes me out of the gameplay flow.
>Melta weapons are too weak, I think, especially when the fluff says "Meltas are the premier anti-armour weapons", but it takes 5+ close range hits to enable execution on a Warrior
>Neurothrope shenanigans with the boys (multiple Warriors, barbed stranglers, lictor). It becomes a.. god forbids me for saying this, a rollslop, might be skill issues, I don't know.
>Sprinting Marine seems a little bit too slow.
And a whole bunch of other small details. The game really excels at its artistic visions, but it didn't deliver the "Space Marine experience" for me.

>>715174156
As you were, anon. As you were.

>good game
WHAT WENT AWRY, DEAR GENTLESIRS
>bad game
HOLY KVNO, BEST SLOPPA UNEXPOSED GEMWALDED EVER!11

>>715174381
Some people just enjoy bullying those who are lesser than them. That's what's happening here.

>>715174652
These are some good points, but I don't know how you make harder difficulties and keep the power fantasy. When I crank the difficulty I feel like I'm overcoming impossible odds. But if I play on a low difficulty I feel like I'm a gigamarine stomping on nids.

The executions used to bother me a lot too, but I find on higher difficulties it gives me a second to get my bearings safely, so I've come to appreciate them.

I would never argue the game is flawless, the 'thropes are really fucking annoying especially as a Bulwark main and it needs a lot of work for sure.

They gave modders free access so I'm interested to see what they come up with.

>>715172304
That's because election tourists/sock puppets like >715172304 and >715172715 don't play games: They're pic related and the reason this hellhole of a board is /vpol/ now. Notice how they literally ALWAYS fall back on the worn out and tired ol'
>(((juice)))
>brown people
>troon
cards since they have nothing else and don't know how to engage gamers nor subjects of vidya.

>>715175146
It's funny, because the actual tourists are the redditors who demand everything be a substantive argument and screech for rebuttals. This is a shit-flinging funposting website for chimpanzees.

>>715166050
>Is this a troon raid thread?
Yes, a lot of warhammer fansisters try to pretend their garbage was ever liked

>>715170950
>have you looked at the GW Plus shorts?
None watch this shit except of complete paypigs.

>>715174652
>>10+ bolter hits to the head of a Warrior to kill it
Fun fact; this is tabletop accurate.

>>715174981
DESU, removing the melee hitstops, shorten the execution, faster sprint (or add another layer of sprint that is faster, but limited steering), and reduce gaunts HP and most of my issues disappear.
Also nerf the Neurothropes ffs.. I'm tired of rolling around.

>>715175717
>Also nerf the Neurothropes ffs.. I'm tired of rolling around
The only time I had any trouble at all in the campaign was defending the big generator core from the waves of Gaunts and Thropes.
That shit sucked.

>>715171717
>>the game that thought being a top down shooter was too hard for investors so they changed their genre so retards would flock to it is better
But, the idea worked so what now?

>add's parry shit
>fucks with the perfect "kill shit for health" system

Why do games like classic Gears and Space Marine drive discord-trannies so mad?

>>715179996
They reek of test, which is a troon's nemesis.

>>715166050
40kfags can be as insufferable as bronies at their peak

>>715164513 (OP)
parryslop, retarded perk system ,enemies still bulletsponges with fully upgraded weapons, lot of rolling when a space marine its a big fridge, warhammers aoe feels worse than gravity hammer from halo 3 also jumpack class dragoon attacks cd, shield feels worse than my wife son of war, heavy its useless outside of melee and meta build

>>715164513 (OP)
Chaos faggots. They are gay and ruined the first campaign too. Leave them in pvp where they belong.

>>715166642
necrons gonna be bigger shit than chaos marines and leandros anal titus all the time

>>715166215
You'll never be a woman

>>715164513 (OP)
Didn't capture the true power of a s marine

>>715164513 (OP)
What do you mean? It was a success.

>>715170535
played first game they re motre funnier with their WAAAAAAAARGGGGH SPESH MARIN but got same issue as heavy elite units in sequel they got big hyperarmor when you re an hyperarmor marine and sequel gives you some parry breathes to do something besides dodging

>>715166215
sounds like you're just one of those people always looking to start a political argument over someone's taste in fiction

>>715170418
I disagree on the orkz. I have a lot of fun fighting the nids, but the thousand sons were quite possibly the worst chaos faction they could have picked.

Does this game continue the proud tradition from 1 where you have to fight Chaos niggers who you can only fight at range, then when you get them down to 25% health or so, they go into a stagger animation that you're supposed to punish with a melee attack for an instant kill, but you can't get within melee range cause of all the fucking marines shooting at you?
My favorite was one chaos marine going down for the stagger on a literally inaccessible catwalk

>>715184570
the terminators with missile launchers unblockable attack and bolter + swords and hellbrutes sucks

>>715184915
you can go full monkey melee at them unless its the one with a bolter and glowy curved sword that its the marauder shields of the game but it doesnt block your ranged attacks

>>715164513 (OP)
it's 40k, a franchise for cuckolds

>>715164513 (OP)
Nothing..? I guess my CPU not being able to run it comfortably is a negative but thats on me, not the game.

>>715186249
If they had a nid only siege option and a nid only rotation of operations, I'd probably still be playing the game daily.

The slav devs should just stick making Stalkerslop games

I wager Relic and even Creative Assembly would have made a better SM2

>>715164513 (OP)
for sales it seems nothing went wrong
for reality the gameplay is very weak and lacks replay value

>>715164513 (OP)
>99% of gameplay revolves around being a badass space marine taking on a tyranid army in melee combat
>all gameplay above easy difficulty consists of having to play like a pussy and dodgeroll 90% of the time

>>715164513 (OP)
>What went so horribly wrong?
Apparently nothing considering it's Very Positive on Steam and already had a sequel announced.
Wanna try again, troon?

>>715174149
>le clown xD
Ok, zoomer