>don't play subversive demoralizing modern western slop
>don't play predatory gachas for a fake gf
>have hobbies outside of gaming

Genuinely, if you follow these three rules, your life will be better.

so what am i supposed to play?

>>715167875 (OP)
play nortubel

Can confirm. My life is great because I’m not a faggot that plays modern “games” and gachatrash. Playing these are the equivalent of self harm

>>715167957
anything that doesn't fall into those 2 categories

>>715168101
like?

>>715167957
>>715168174
There are a billion games that don't fall into those categories, what do you mean? You can even play games with cute girls, just don't play ones where you gamble for them.

>>715167957
You’re fucking retarded for asking since you think those 2 choices are the only options in gaming

Post on 4chan and cry about trannies instead

So, why are you here again?

>>715168174
any game made before 2010

>>715168221
>>715168227
>>715168279
yeah so what games then?

>>715168361
I don't think you're going to accept any answer, anon.

>>715168482
answer

>>715167875 (OP)
I am still trying to understand how was the thing in the left approved. Hell, even T people don't like it because it makes them look bad being a massive hypocrite and annoying brat.

>>715168538
I already did and you didn't accept it. Why would I think you'd accept any other answer?

If I didn't spend 30000 hours on video games I would probably be a drug addict.

>>715168631
name the game

>>715168615
You're going to have a talk with HR later for questioning The Professor.

>>715167875 (OP)
It's a bigger waste of time to indulge in conservative politics. It molds you into a bitter cranky white guy who can't interact with normal people.

All of the "woke stuff" that you complain about was already done in live action TV shows and movies for decades, and you look like a socially stunted tool for whining about DEI.

>>715168361
minecraft

>>715167875 (OP)
True that.

>>715168927
i'm unironically playing that right now.

>>715168831
>was already done in live action TV shows and movies for decades
and it should have never been accepted because it soon expanded
>and you look like a socially stunted tool for whining about DEI
"Sure, it sucks that they're only hiring and promoting black women now when I do all the work, but at least I won't look socially stunted for supporting it."

>>715167875 (OP)
Sex with Taash

>>715168759
You're an adult, aren't you? Why do you need others to think for you, anon? I don't know what you enjoy. I already said that it can be anything outside of those two categories. That was your answer.

>>715168831
I like how you couldn't find any fault with the OP to shitpost about so you had to bring up conservative politics appropos of nothing.

>>715169089

>>715167957
>so what am i supposed to play?
Pool or bowling though :3

>>715167875 (OP)
>have hobbies outside of gaming
What is a hobby? Is passively consuming media even a real hobby?

>>715169067
>and it should have never been accepted because it soon expanded
Your coworkers have actual serious issues to worry about like raising kids and paying rent, only right-wing NEETs have enough free time to be deeply obsessed with hating minorities online.
>"Sure, it sucks that they're only hiring and promoting black women now when I do all the work, but at least I won't look socially stunted for supporting it."
Literally an imaginary scenario that you made up to get angry at. In reality your coworkers are just chill people who live their lives to the fullest by attending music concerts, going to Disney World, or binging netflix shows.

Wasting your time on fake non-issues like white genocide and DEI videogames based on FOTM shit from grifters is just sad. I wasted 10 years of my life being an angry anti-SJW/woke retard and didn't realize how much I was missing out until I did a 180. A lot of these ecelebs fade in irrelevancy like Andrew Anglin and Milo Yiannopolis.

>>715169684
>Your coworkers have actual serious issues to worry about like raising kids and paying rent
They also constantly complain about all the woke shit they see on the TV and online to me.

>>715169094
>I like how you couldn't find any fault with the OP to shitpost about so you had to bring up conservative politics appropos of nothing.
The fault is being obsessed with right-wing politics. I have been in his position before and have rejected media for being woke, but I wasn't productive at all. I just replaced it with right-wing bullshit that made me angry 24/7.

Your peers are more left-leaning than you are. They don't have time to get mad at black women in videogames because they've already seen minorities existing in other mediums with zero issue.

>>715169859
Are you a plumber or something?

>>715169684
>>715168831
Didn't read but so true. All of the greatest minds of our generation are anti-conservatives. Leftists are known for being stable and happy.

>>715169875
>The fault is being obsessed with right-wing politics.

Stopped reading there.

So you, then? Seeing as you're the one who brought up right-wing politics to begin with?

>>715167875 (OP)
>I HATE VIDEO GAMES AND YOU SHOULD TOO!!!

>>715167957
How about a real sport you lardo

>>715169951
>Are you a [functional and important job that won't be replaced by AI unlike most office jobs that I consider to be more worthy for some reason]

>>715170186
Reading comprehension.

>>715169684
>only right-wing NEETs have enough free time to be deeply obsessed with hating minorities online.
Buddy, I get my 8 hours a day in no problem. Any less is a skill issue.

>>715167875 (OP)
I don't play predatory gacha nor do I feel I'm getting any social engagement out of them. I play regular gacha.
>but they're all
You are going off of stereotypes you heard fourth-hand a decade ago. It's not all Hoyoverse garbage.

>>715169684
>your coworkers are just chill people who live their lives to the fullest by attending music concerts, going to Disney World, or binging netflix shows.
incredibly corporate writing style. do you work in advertising mayhaps?

>>715168229
*ridicule

>>715170417
>>but they're all
Correct. All gachas are made with the goal of catching whales. There are no exceptions.

>I HATE VIDEO GAMES SO I POST ON THE VIDEO GAME BOARD
Go away

>>715170417
what's a good f2p friendly gacha? i quit fire emblem heroes years ago because of the constant power creep

>>715170592
Reading comprehension.

>>715167957
>>715168174
>>715168361
What sorts of games do you like? Like what genres? I was playing modded L4D2 the other day if you enjoy horde shooters because there's a shitton of community content at this point that you can really stretch the game in a lot of directions.

>>715170543
All video games are made with the goal of profit. Gacha is no exception, unless it's freeware.

>>715168789
Wrong game, the "professor" was from concord.

>>715167875 (OP)
Subliminal subversion doesn't exist. You can only subvert those seeking subversion.

>>715170638
No retard. You are just telling people

>LOOK LOOK I DON'T PLAY EITHER GAME LOOK HOW BASED I AM
Go away. /v/ is already dogshit. If you genuinely don't like video games anymore fine. But go fucking elsewhere like reddit.

>>715170665
people make free games all the time

>>715170812
I did not deny that.

>>715170665
Not all games equally strive as strongly to milk every dime possible out of their players, to just say "all games want profit" is a dishonest simplification. The guy who made Stardew Valley has been giving away free updates for many years at this point that he could have monetized, where other people at the helm would take such content and make it into paid DLC, for example.

>>715170665
Not all games are made with the goal of exploiting whales. All gachas are. Ignoring that fact and stating that all practices where making a profit is the goal are the same is incredibly disingenuous and you know it.

>>715170859
>>715170860
#Notallgames

>>715167875 (OP)
Quick, think of us playing a better game.

>>715170753
Reading comprehension.

>>715170613
True F2P friendly? Arknights. If you have your heart set on a specific unit it can suck, but that's the extent of it.
Limbus Company is an honorable mention. Getting an individual unit is easy, grinding for many sucks without the battlepass. But it's $12 for like 8-9 months.

>>715167875 (OP)
I don't take advice from anyone who calls video games subversive and demoralizing seriously lol. Who is weak willed enough to be demoralized by video games?

>>715170859
>>715170860
You are believing fake stereotypes about gacha. There's plenty of gacha games where whales don't get any advantage no matter how much money they put in. Conversely, I can think of dozens of paid games that have so much DLC that it's genuinely predatory

>>715170928
Correct.

>>715170940
Get some.

>>715168174
Factorio

>>715171003
>There's plenty of gacha games where whales don't get any advantage no matter how much money they put in.

Name some. Name gachas where whales spend exorbitant amounts of money and there's zero incentive for them to do so.

>>715170990
realist post ITT, OP is a fag

>>715171040
You should, I agree.

>>715171164
>NO U
I think we're done here.

>>715170990
based ally

>>715171130
>>715170990
Samefagging is kinda cringe.

>>715171190

>>715171003
If Stardew was a gacha then you'd be rolling for seeds and people would be defending how generous the events are for pity rolls on waifu garden helpers for the higher-end stardew valley fair events. You might have found your one shitty gacha that barely survives because it doesn't twist your ballsack quite as hard to get you to put real money into it, but the genre as a whole is fucked in that respect and you'll cycle between pretending that "plenty" of games aren't trying to milk you and justifying how they just have to make every dime they can off gambling addicts.
>but but but other genres also monetize in predatory ways
100% but not nearly as badly as gacha on the whole. Other genres having issues doesn't mean your favorite genre doesn't.

>>715171253
Not a samefag, if you think video games are demoralizing you're a retard.

>>715171190
Yep. You were done the second you failed the reading comprehension test.

>give free product.
>incentivize consumers of product to pay money
Oh, the horror.

>>715171253
Agreed

>>715171097
>>715171295
>UHH ALL GACHA BAD
>BUT MY SLOP GOOD

Nothing upsets /v/ more than being told that they shouldn't consume the slop.

>>715171361
>>715171419
Samefagging is kinda cringe.

>>715171405
Post nose.

>>715171442
Can you fucking read, retard? I said that other genres have their own issues as well and many are also predatory with monetization. But gachas are worse on the whole for that and not even other gacha players will believe you when you lie and say the genre isn't.

>>715171369
>No u

>>715171442
Slop is bad yes. I don't consume slop so I don't know where you got the second line from lol.

>>715171612
Weren't you running away?

>>715171591
So how come MMOs get away with it then? They're the original gacha games with people spending thousands of dollars

>Inb4 they don't count

>>715171659
You consume slop and you don't even know it. At least I admit it.

>>715171670
>So how come MMOs get away with it then?
What do you mean "get away with it"? Blizzard is constantly shit on for being a bunch of kikes who monetized the game to hell and back.

>>715171567
Hang on a second, I'm grabbing my camera.

>>715171295
Yeah your assumptions for how gacha works are still wrong. Whales are paying exorbitant money to eliminate the 0.2% chance that they didn't play enough to max a banner out, not just to keep up with all the released shit.
>it's trying to milk you dry!!!
The amount of content they release that is perfectly normal and enjoyable gameplay without any rolling or paying required does not match your description. I haven't rolled in most of a year in one.

>>715171747
Nah. I know slop from non-slop and I don't consume the former. It's pretty easy actually.

>>715171802
And WoW still has millions of players. MMOS were also the first video games to have MTX. Literally everything bad about microtransactions started with them

>>715167875 (OP)
>>don't play subversive demoralizing modern western slop
>>don't play predatory gachas for a fake gf
>>have hobbies outside of gaming
it's not like you have a choice then

>>715169875
go back

>>715171880
You're a slop eater. All video games are inherently slop. They are made to be slop. The only difference is again. I know it and you don't. I pick the slop I want.

>>715171864
None of what you said is a counter to the fact that gachas are made to exploit whales.

>>715171891
I still don't see your point. Gachas also make tons of money on their predatory practices. Everyone is getting away with it.

>>715171978
Typing in short, declarative sentences doesn't make you s more convincing.

>>715168174
arcanoid, pong, peggle

Why haven't the slop-eaters been able to counter any points?

>>715172017
>Everyone is getting away with it.
Not true. Plenty of gachas die because they got greedy. You assume all gacha games are as popular as Hoyoshit but the truth most of them barely last a year, "whales" don't really exist outside of a handful of gachas

>>715171670
What the fuck do you even mean by "get away with it" anon? Do you mean they find success? Because they're doing badly at this point while gachas are doing a lot better, they were just more popular in their heyday. Or do you mean that people give them a pass? Because people don't. Many MMOs incorporate gacha-style mechanics with weapon upgrading systems and get a lot of shit for that.

>>715171864
>your assumptions for how gachas work are wrong
My assumptions are
>gachas will try to incentivize you to spend real-world money on it and reward you for doing so
>the genre is more egregious about incentivizing real-world money spending than any other, and the only others that come close do so by incorporating gacha-style mechanics themselves
Tell me which assumption is wrong and why.

>>715172091
>you s
good morning saar

Kek, gacha tards are having a meltdown, and there's a lot of Buyer’s Stockholm Syndrome in this thread. OP is correct

So OP only made this thread to feel superior right?

>>715172289
>OP is correct
Samefagging is cringe op.

>>715172017
Then I don't understand what's supposed to be innately bad about it. If it doesn't affect how you play it you're not mentally ill, what's the problem? Are games responsible for their players walking in with gambling addictions?
>but they exploit you to make you develop one
Skill issue, I guess.

>Heh I don't play any video games
Okay? So...what's the point of this thread? You want a cookie?

>>715167875 (OP)
Is this OP some kind of twitter aggregate? A leftist meme?

>>715167957
Games with engaging mechanics that actually draw you in and keep your brain busy, rather than something to do casually as a way to wind down.
Your best bet if anything is to avoid anything AAA from the past 10 years. The biggest budget games nowadays are exceptionally good at wasting your time.

>>715172526
It's less than 50 words, anon.

>>715170001
that's why you have to keep searching the social media history of every developer for thoughtcrime before you'll buy a game, amirite?

>>715168361
I've been playing Doom 64 recently and it's very satisfying. The map design can get annoying though.
If you somehow haven't played OG Doom yet, go do that you absolute fool.

>>715172251
>the genre
First of all, that one. Gacha isn't a genre.
>more egregious about incentivizing real-world money spending than any other
And this one. I lived through eras of freemium where you were flashed pop-ups to spend money every few minutes like a science and where the only real way to access like a third of the game was to shell out.

>>715172646
50 words too many

>>715172810
Wrong on both accounts. Gacha is absolutely a genre at this point because you have so little active engagement with the game itself. The defining point of it is its monetization. You'll tell you me you try-hard at your particular gacha and it's some skill-intensive affair for you but we both know that's not the norm.

>>715173167
>Gacha is absolutely a genre at this point
Wrong, lmao gacha can't be a genre because there's nothing that's unique about it at all, any game can have "gacha"

>engagement
If that's the only factor then I guess idle clickers are gacha too

>>715173167
Your argument is founded on a hyperbole. There's no gacha where the point is not to engage with the game and it's primarily gambling.

>>715172350
You’re having a panic attack from the meltdown you're starting to sound delusional. Take a deep breath and play a better game, blud. Go play tetr.io to start with

>>715173382
There's nothing unique about gacha gameplay, the only thing unique about these games is the dogshit monetization and how heavily they lean into it.
>I guess idle clickers are gacha too
You do about as much active gameplay in a lot of these log-in-daily gachas on a daily basis as you do in idle clickers.

>>715173535
There are many many gacha where the point is to get players hooked and progressively make gameplay into quick daily streamlined farming that you don't really need to actively think about in any real capacity and you are encouraged to engage with the cash shop to speed up the tedium(through gambling). That is most of them. You cannot deny this and be anything but dishonest or delusional.

>>715173841
I can absolutely believe there are some gacha like this, but the idea that this is a gameplay idea overriding the actual gameplay is asinine. Or that it's the norm. If you find a gacha where people brag about how little they have to play, that's on the players and not the game.

>>715174394
>"Some"
You mean gacha where the gameplay eventually lulls into dailies that are mundane-to-mindless to complete and serve to highlight the grind that comes with not paying to encourage you to spend real-world dollars? Sure thing bud.

>>715167875 (OP)
>Subversive
At the very least anti-woke people are admitting to being basic bitches these days.

>>715174852
In no gacha I've seen can dailies be paved over with money. Even people who pay do their dailies. You REALLY want to stick to arguing without knowing anything about gacha, huh?

>>715170001
How short are all these "men"

>>715170383
>Frogfag

>>715169089
aight bend over wyte boi

>>715175221
I never said paved over, retard. I said that they serve to highlight the grind and encourage you to spend money-dollars to help with that grind where people are otherwise forced to "save up" for events. It sounds more like you're just really hoping that I don't know about gachas, unfortunate for you. And I'm sure people who pay are invested enough to be doing the dailies as well.

>have hobbies outside of gaming
such as?

>>715167875 (OP)
I get addicted to gacha slop easily, hard to break away but I'm gonna try to quit them again. I had a lot of fun with fantasy life i, that game was addicting as hell though I still wish for Dark Cloud 3. I think what doesn't help is gachashit is talked about everywhere among weebs and I'm into jrpgs and lolis so I come about this stuff all the time no matter where I go. It's probably mostly people from SEA too, as a burger I shouldn't play these games. I played Ayesha and got the rest of Dusk series to get through and I have to replay SMT 5 as I did the original route and not vengeance yet. We should seriously ban SEA and maybe indians as well, maybe chinks cause they're probably paid to shill chinese gacha though SEA does it for free.

>>715175698
>they serve to highlight the grind and encourage you to spend money-dollars to help with that grind
I guess I can see this? Even if none of the things you accrue from regular play are the things you can buy.
>where people are otherwise forced to "save up" for events
Okay, what the actual FUCK are you talking about? Saving up for events sounds like you're talking about pull currency, I only see gacha give out pull currency as compensation for maintenance/issues and along with new content. That's not something dailies interact with meaningfully.
Also, why did you put "save up" in quotes? Do you think it's manipulative to expect players to do it?

>>715167875 (OP)
>>have hobbies outside of gaming
I can't afford this

>>715168174
I don't know, don't be a faggot with shit tastes? This seems to be a YOU problem.

>>715167875 (OP)
>>don't play subversive demoralizing modern western slop
easy done
>>don't play predatory gachas for a fake gf
done
>>have hobbies outside of gaming
this is a bit of a stretch

>plays gacha instead
lol

>>715167875 (OP)
at least gavha have cut girls I mean I don't play gacha but I at least appreciate the designs

>>715167875 (OP)
Who aproved the new designs for the qunari? They look like humans with horns now

>>715170001
one of these is not like the others