Thread 715175923

Discuss Papaya.

how is the port
i saw people saying the music is still bitcrushed
is there a reason to buy this instead of just emulating or pirating it on my irl psp

>>715175923 (OP)
>i saw people saying the music is still bitcrushed
It's the same as PSP
>is there a reason to buy this
Switch has local multiplayer for 2
Otherwise, it's just personal preference

>>715176613
meant for >>715176019

>>715175923 (OP)
It feels completely random whether or not my beats are perfect on the Switch version. Is this the input lag I keep hearing about?
If so it's kinda wacky how hard it is to port over properly

Time to wait for the patches then
See ya in a year, maybe never

>>715177863
1 is just very strict, 2's ease of perfects can be adjusted iirc

Friendly reminder the games are set to easy by default which heavily nerfs the damage enemies do and increases drop rates of materials across the board.

Whatever happened to the fan remake? They made a whole engine that was supposed to be 90% complete then the shifted to discord and I lost interest.

Patatroon

>>715178494
>1 is just very strict
Is it? Been giving it a go and while not completely lenient you can get away with some inaccuracies in the timing

>>715178940
Patapon 1 was strict in the timing for activating Fever but keeping fever up was pretty lenient.
Patapon 2 made it significantly easier to get "perfect" hits to activate fever however.

>>715176613
is the switch version on a proper physical cartridge

>>715179341
Yes, but you might have to import it

>>715175923 (OP)
>on like the third Zigoton mission
>marching over to pick up my reward for beating a batch of them
>suddenly horses
welp, guess I've got some grinding to do

why is Sony porting so many old games now? Any hope we will get a wipeout pc port? I am still made they shafted the studio.

>>715179634
I'm really enjoying hard mode so far, it might not be how the game was intended to be played but I'm loving the feeling of just barely being able to get through each mission

>>715176019
The audio is pretty fuckin bad

Also why is the game locked at 30fps? Any kind of trickery to fix it?

>>715181678
its 60fps for me so must be on your end

Finally tried the Ratatan demo today
I actually kinda like the new core gameplay, it feels quite chaotic, but it certainly has a higher skill ceiling and I think it's a nice compromise between clearly being a spiritual successor, but still being its own thing

That being said, I really dislike the art direction. Patapon looked cool, elegant and aesthetic in its simplicity. Ratatan feels very overdesigned and visually loud in comparison. Also, while obviously being a kid friendly game, Patapon had some edge and cool factor to it, it was after all a game about an army of murderous tribals on a fanatical war pilgrimage facing against monsters, horrors and armies of hostile civilisations. Ratatan is just way too cutesy and happy and kawaii for my taste. Same goes for the music.

Also not a big fan of going the roguelike route, this shit is everywhere these days and while it can be enjoyable, I much prefer hand crafted content and planned, steady progression rather than gambler tier dopamine drops from lucky runs

Thanks for reading my random ass review

>>715181534
What are the differences? Even more strict timing requirements? Increased hp/dmg on enemies?

>>715178820
Ratatan? It's still under development, although they've recently delayed the final release. You can find a beta/demo up on steam.

>>715183019
it seems to increase/decrease the damage you take and deal, while also lowering the drop rate of items.

>>715183293
>while also lowering the drop rate of items.
>even more fucking grinding to have a cool army
Hell no

>>715182839
>Ratatan is just way too cutesy and happy and kawaii for my taste
Same thought here, yeah. And the roguelite thing means it's gonna be pretty hard for it to have a proper story.

>>715181534
>the feeling of just barely being able to get through each mission
That's part of the reason why I like the armies in 1 and 2. 3 has its difficulty spikes, but you don't get that same feeling of accomplishment when its just four guys.

>>715181345
>why is Sony porting so many old games now?
Bamco's asking if they can port old series/games and Sony gave them the ok for...some reason.
>Any hope we will get a wipeout pc port? I am still made they shafted the studio.
If Freedom Wars can get ported, Wipeout could. There might be music rights issues, though. Also unrelated, but 2048 is still one of the greatest intro cinematics to any game.

so what's with the whole input delay thing?
if it's consistent can't you just get used to it?

Pon~

Please do NOT slander HARD mode.
>Easy
Very easy to enter fever (perhaps too easy). Hero patapon powers activated with one "perfect" timing command (not march)
>Normal
A step up for attaining fever but still easy enough for those new to Patapon. Hero patapon powers activated with one "perfect" timing command (not march)
>Hard
Same/slightly higher difficulty as the original when it comes to fever mode. Hero patapon powers require three "perfect" timings in a row.

It doesn't lower the drop rate of anything.

>>715184035
Accuracy is important to rhythm games since you're mostly relying on your own internal rhythm/metronome to be accurate. If you've never played a keysounded rhythm game like beatmania IIDX or something, it's hard to describe. Basically, a sound is made when the key is pressed. In a perfect world (namely actual arcade cabinets that are built for this sort of thing) the sound happens the nanosecond the input is registered.

Now, imagine if, when you pressed an input, the sound happed ~20-40ms later. That might not sound like a lot, but that is an absolutely fucking massive amount of time when it comes to rhythm games, especially keysounded ones where all the instruments happen later than you expect them to.

>>715184194
Seductive Papaya

>>715184826
She's going to show you a special ritual

>>715184035
you could, but it's not very comfy
it's like playing an FPS where the ping is so bad there's a 1 second delay

>>715184261
That's how "difficulty" for patapon 2 worked on psp, but the new setting introduced in the replay collection is completely different and completely unrelated to that. It doesn't touch fever timing at all.

>get fever
>instantly lose combo

I don’t remember it being this hard to keep rhythm

>>715186709
Yeah, entering fever strongly changes the music, so initially it's easy to lose the rhytm due to that

>>715175923 (OP)
Can’t wait to play it again after so long. Grew up playing it and was really into it to the point that I could play blind, psp fucked up and the screen didn’t work but I just about remembered how to still navigate the stage select and stages themselves

>>715185405
Source on this new difficulty change?

I want this game to sell well to encourage PlayStation to make more unique games like they used to, but I’m not really interested in patapon.

>>715188197
https://youtu.be/ZBnJeykJeY8?t=292

Just when you thought sony couldn't lose anymore exclusives.

>>715188213
>I want this game to sell well to encourage PlayStation to make more unique games like they used to
They're long gone from those days. It will be nothing but live service games and modern NaughtyDog garbage until they run out of money.

>>715182839
Didn't know this was a thing. Looks like the patapon remake stole their thunder and now they're holding off on their release.

>>715189695
Nah, remake or not they're still far from ready in terms of development.

>>715188287
I feel like this is much better (as in easier) than having a tougher drum timing
Also only damage done/taken changes. Nothing about drop rates

>>715189695
The demo's reception wasn't great either.

>>715190107
If you play the game yourself on easy or hard you can instantly notice that the drop rates are different because it either spams you with rare items (easy) or you barely get any items or kaching at all (hard).

Where is the torrent?

>>715188915
naughtyfins...

>>715181345
Bamco bought publishing rights to freedom wars, patapon and hotshots golf for these recent releases. If these do well then expect more since they're super cheap compared to making new games.

>>715188213
Nah only buy if you actually want it. Money goes to bamco and the licensing fees are being funneled into another concord-like game.

>>715190510
Man I hope mina no golf does well. I miss those games and do more for me than the latest mario golf provides. Birdie wing was cheap but fun as well

Any relevant change from the PS4 ports or I should skip?

There's no input delay btw. Can't believe Namco just outed so many scrubs

>>715175923 (OP)
are we... are we the bad guys...

>>715192948
maybe

>>715192558
It looks a bit nicer since it doesn't have the visual errors that version has
The new difficulty options can let you re-experience the games with some actual challenge.
But that's about it really

>>715192948
we're the dumb guys

>play on Hard
>tutorial Dodonga might 2 shot you (with Chaka Chaka)
I don't feel so good, hardbros.
Also beat timing is night and day between easy and hard.

>>715175923 (OP)
papaya...

https://files.catbox.moe/5ocn71.png
https://files.catbox.moe/nbx72l.png

>>715194381
I don't have an image of a patapon with a bulging eyeball but pretend I posted one

>>715192948
It always depends on the point of view.

>Patapon 2
>Yumipon hero
>Shubabasa mask
>Chiku
>Ancient bow
Yes sir it's bullet hell time.

>>715194381
Fucking lmao

>>715189695
they delayed the game because they received a good amount of criticism. its poop.

Can someone explain the input delay complaints?

>>715201130
Imagine you were playing a rhythm game where accuracy is important. You need to hit the input within milliseconds of the timing window.

Now imagine your inputs are delayed by a tenth of a second.

>>715201668
Is there actually input issues? I saw people online say it is due to bluetooth earphones having issues and needing to plug wired earphones in to the controller to get rid of the input delay. I also saw people say this issue is caused by the monitors.

>>715201130
I'm playing in handheld mode and I was able to muscle memory the beat. so I don't know wtf people are talking about

does patapon 1 ever actually explain how rarepons work or did they just expect you to google that shit

>>715202552
They expect you to try and use your rare materials and see what comes out. The game lets you savescum anyway.

>>715202552
It's not rocket science. Just keep track of the quality of the inputs and what stats a particular permahat gives you.

>>715201130
Two possibilities
>There is actually a slight delay that desyncs the beats even with calibration and makes the gameplay 10 times harder, however it seems to be really hardware dependant since many people also report having no lag whatsoever
>These are just genuine patapon newfags/people who only played 2 or 3 on normal complaining about experiencing 1 for the first time and blaming the port instead because the timings there are very strict
>People are playing with shit pads over bluetooth and get latency in a timing-centered game

wait... is pc port out?

>>715203226
it was out yesterday.

>>715202552
There's a loading screen tip that tells you each rarepon

>>715202000
There's delay everywhere, the controller, the monotors, the headphones. It's a simple fact of computing. The important part is making sure the delay between the visuals, the audio, and the input all sync up so you "Feel" like the timing is right, and that's significantly harder on a PC where there are a million combinations of parts someone can be using, vs a handheld where you know all the components exactly.
Most PC rhythm games fix this by giving a delay calibration option in the game itself. I heard this port was gonna have one, but was that actually true.

>>715202286
Patapon 1 is just really strict in comparison to most rhythm games. People are just missing and thinking it's a lag issue

the majority started with 2 back in the day and jumped to 1 when the remaster came out, not knowing its actually harder and now they're blaming it on the timing input.

Why wasn't Patapon 3 included in the Replay?

>>715206886
Because they would have to put as much work as they did for porting the first two games together, considering the need to convert the multiplayer handling to something steam and the switch can support.
It makes sense for them to release the first two first to test the waters, and only work on 3 if they sold well enough.

>>715206886
Too focused on online

>>715206886
wasn't that the worst one?

>>715207665
>>715207706
These two

>>715207706
For playing alone, it's the worst one.
For playing along with a friend or a brother, it's the absolute best one.

>>715207665
>>715207706
This shit cost €30, it should have the entire trilogy.

>>715175923 (OP)
Whats the timing for when i hit fever?

>>715210586
The same as always. Four beats after you've pressed the last button, then you press buttons for four beats. You've got to keep the beats going in your head at all times, even when the patapons aren't shouting them out loud.

>>715201130
manchildren are mad theyre bad at keeping time so they blame the game, not the player

>muh input lag
don't care, beat the game on hard mode

>>715214830
Based.
God, Gorl is still fucking kino.

Priestess correction needed...

>>715217924
I don't want to get horny for eyeballs

>>715175923 (OP)
Sex with eyeball monster?

What other abandoned Sony IPs need multiplataform remasters?

>>715219763
Soul Sacrifice
Ape Escape
Wild Arms
Jak
Battle Arena Toshinden

>>715219154
I seriously hope you guys don't do this

Patapon 1 is a lot shorter than I remember

>>715219763
Tokyo Jungle

>>715223285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RmQTYLD398

>>715219763
gravity rush