Stop playing competitive slop and play coop shooters

What ones?

For example?
Tbqh I'd rather play an rpg instead

>>715190697 (OP)
Ghost Recon any gud?

>>715190794
If you take the time to get used to no hud yes

>>715190697 (OP)
is this delta force?

>>715190697 (OP)
>coop
>shooters
I don't have enough free time to waste on shooterslop. There's only enough time in my life for one multiplayer game, and it's Monster Hunter.

>>715190792
That's fair honestly, RPGs at least make you feel like you're progressing instead of grinding the same map for cosmetics. But if you ever wanna try something brain-off with a buddy, Deep Rock Galactic is peak comfy coop. Blow up bugs, chug beer, yell "rock and stone." No PvP sweatlords, just dwarves and explosions.

>>715190792
the ones i've been enjoying the most, but keep in mind i play with friends so its not the same as public lobbies, pick your poison:
>Helldivers 2 (not FPS but still a nice horde shooter)
>Deep Rock Galactic
>Ready or Not
>L4D2
>Killing Floor 2
>Serious Sam games in chronological order
>Half-Life games using Sven Coop and Garry's Mod coop mod for HL2
>Postal 2 using Nick's Coop and Postal 4 coop beta branch
>Halo bungie triology thru Master Chief Collection
>Space Marine 2
>Ultrakill with multiplayer mod

>>715190794
Some people enjoy it but if you've ever played TPP you'll find the whole thing weakly uncreative and very straightforward. It gets boring really fast because it's terribly repetitive

>>715191071
>>715190794
It could have been an amazing game and the map is gorgeous. Literally a few hundred lines of enemy scripting imo could have elevated this game considerably. If you larp a bit and turn off all the hud bullshit(cant quite turn it all off, the audio cues f.e) and put it on the hardest diff where any dude can actually kill you its decent openworld with a little bit more realism than say fargoy, especially when you have like 30 guys you can let loose. Do the skill upgrade missions first and take your time to enjoy the map and move like you would for real. Dont be a stealth faggot, the most fun can be had with overwhelming fire and manpower. You can shell the shit out of people and you have an fpv drone iwth explosives which is a gamechanger. I wish the map was even bigger but the scale is much better than other open world games and is appreciated.

It astounds me that so much effort can be made by so many people and then the actual mechanics are always severely underdeveloped. I think im going to wrtie a gay blogpost about wildglands and how i would make it better and why violence is often the answer

>>715196778
>severely underdeveloped
Welcome to Ubisoft. A lot of their games have a stroke of geniality hidden underneath and are often conceptually great but they are virtually always underdeveloped and ultimately shallow.

>>715191764
Abhorrent taste.

>>715190697 (OP)
I play Insurgency Sandstorm but lately it's getting to me how humans in general are just fucking stupid.
For the first 500+ ranks, I tried to cope telling myself that it's just new players being new but no. People in general are really fucking stupid.
They have goldfish memory. No object permanence. They can't hit a moving target beyond 5m. And the most godforsaken behavior that I'm thinking comes from playing other shooters: running around with a grenade like it's your primary weapon. Like you can shoot with it if an enemy appears in front of you.
There's a shit ton more I can bring up, mostly regarding basic situational awareness but this topic makes me depressed because I'm stuck in this world of stupid people anyway.

>>715190697 (OP)
Problem with coop shooters is you are inherently fucked if your team is bad
At least with shit like call of doody you can get some neat kill streaks and win the match

I do like to play Payday 2 on my own, offline with mods and bots to make it more enjoyable

Coop shooting online is utterly shit

>>715190697 (OP)
No such thing, every shooter wants to be the next big esport.

>>715190697 (OP)
Tarkovchads are both at the same time

>>715197531
>playing that garbage after the whole 2 fiddy dollaroos debacle
I see you don't have any self respect.

>>715196778
GRW and BP are pretty much standout examples of how Ubisoft can't ever feel the need to commit to anything that would uproot the open world formula. The mechanics, the basics, the design- everything is there for a tactical stealth ops shooter, but most of your time is driving around cramped rural roads and empty regions if you don't take a chopper, then you crouch and prone and shoot some dudes for stealth or pop a guy loud and see the rest of the area funnel in through a chokepoint, rinse and repeat.

The devs clearly WANT to keep doing what Advanced Warfighter / Future Soldier did with tactical gameplay but dumbed it down so much that your AI companions just run around and auto-shoot when sync shots aren't used, and tactics boil down to basically "it's Far Cry but you die really fast at the high difficulties" so it doesn't get enough to diversify itself besides gun autism and pseudo-tactical shit. Like it has cool bursts and then you realize it's incredibly vapid. And meanwhile all the controls and mechanics are so unrefined that it feels like a AA shooter that happened to get the patented Ubisoft Open World™ with nothing to really show for it but the usual checklists. Fucking Division has better shooting and movement controls. And if you do it without friends, nothing feels interesting or cohesive.

I really hope either Ubisoft shitting the bed makes them revisit proper mission structure and design again in their games, or they just lose the IP to someone that will do it. Open world design sucked for MGSV, it sucked for Ghost Recon, and it still isn't really conductive to tactical shooter design when the entire point of tactical design is the intricacy of mission layouts and enemy positions.

>>715190794
Wildlands and Breakpoint are both fine. Breakpoint with mods surpasses Wildlands though. Lots of good shit released in the last couple of years from the modding community, especially if you're a CoD fanboy.

>>715199121
NTA but do an more mods make it bearable with the AI? Maybe give the player actual useful tools to use stealth?

>>715190794
requires ubisoft app
cracked version has no multiplayer

>>715190697 (OP)
Hello, based department ?
Another coop chad for you.

>>715197613
You're not a true believer.

>>715199234
Maybe the Spartan Mod. Although this mod makes the game more challenging by making it harder to use stealth and makes enemies detect and spot you farther. Doesn't exactly make enemies smarter, if that's what you want.

>>715200489
FYI that mod is just adjustable. You can set the enemies how you want.

How good is the stealth in Breakpoint, actually if I want to do it solo?

I'm not expecting anything like MGS V with mods but even something like Future Soldier was pretty neat with the drone helpin you spot things

>>715201191
It's way better than mgsv dude but jewbisoft made it always online

>>715201191
Basically it's the same between Wildlands and Breakpoint with some adjustments (ie, fixing things so enemies actually have to call in for alerts, versus one dude spots you and the entire area instantly knows where you are). You go in at day on a high difficulty, and they'll quickly spot you standing up so you need to crouch, stay low, avoid sightlines and use something like the drone and binoculars judiciously. Brush and plant life provide camo to navigate with, etc. Going in at night has always-accessible NVGs, enemy detection range is reduced, you can shoot out lights to keep the advantage. Beyond that, it's Ubisoft stealth detection: they have the awareness circle appear, sound cues, and if you get away from it they don't really have much depth beyond that and investigating, or going on caution at seeing dead bodies. You can move the bodies in Breakpoint, can't in Wildlands last I remember.
Like MGSV, there really isn't a solid indicator of how hidden you really are, unlike MGSV there isn't really a gear camo system since your clothing is entirely cosmetic. The stealth is important and functions, but you're not really getting guard sweeps in typical factors, more like enemies going around to check on suspicious spots, and in Breakpoint drones trying to one-up you to call in a cavalry or shoot your ass.

>>715190784
>what ones
No ESLs in coop, please.

>>715199598
I guess you could say I'm not a true fan.

>>715202072
>>715201424
I might give Wildlands another try since I don't own Bbreakpoint yet

>>715190794
Are these games playable solo? I just like fucking around by myself or with AI
Kind of want to scratch that itch MGSV gave me

>>715190794
I think it depends.
I would say it's mixed, and only really recommend if you haven't re-played TPP already or you are looking for something else that has that open world taticool shooter and don't mind some of the 2015 ubisoft's gameplay( Pretty much far cry 3-4 gameplay loops)

I could go on and on about this game but if you are going to play, just do what
>>715196778
mentioned, and turn off the bots.

>>715204706
Yeah, you can 100% solo them. Wildlands gives you a team by default that you can disable, while Breakpoint starts you solo but you can enable the teammates. Ironically both titles needed the remove/add option patched in, respectively. The games don't really do anything narratively to accommodate for much of this at all either since your protag Nomad is the focus, so you're not missing anything there. But co-op DOES let you and some buddies either take on missions together or fuck off to split the workload on the map individually.

>>715205287
Can you customize the teammates? I could imagine it would be fun to tweak their loadouts towards whatever your strategy is

>>715190697 (OP)
>friendslop
The pussy is afraid of competition, kek

>>715197613
This. I walked away and never looked back. Was the biggest reveal that the game is a scam and will never hit its "vision." Game only ran worse and worse over time

>>715202195
ESL genre. All of the best games in the genre for the last 15 years or so have been made by euros.

>>715207564
>this nigga has no friends
Sad.

>>715207237
Visually but not loadouts, unfortunately. You also don't really have much to do for them, there's basic orders like engagement or using Sync Shots so they take out targets in a row / simultaneously with you, but they'll otherwise just wander around you, take cover, auto-mark nearby enemies they spot, and then shoot shit. Wildlands was so designed around co-op play that they were basically a filler with Sync Shot attached, and turning them off means that's an entire pointless skill to ignore; Breakpoint wasn't designed for them in the first place, so they just sorta "exist" to do the same thing.

>>715207932
many such cases

>>715190794
It's the perfect example of wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. The open world is massive but it's also extremely repetitive and littered with copy and pasted assets. There's so many towns with the same buildings that have been copy and pasted over and over again that at times it feels like the entire towns have been copy and pasted

>>715207237
In Wildlands you could only change their appearance. In Breakpoint you can choose what guns they'll use but they'll also have a "backup" gun that you can't remove or change but you do have the option to make it invisible so it only looks like their carrying around one weapon

>Reveal trailer makes it seem like you can tackle missions multiple ways and how you complete them will effect future missions
>None of that appears in the game and you progress through the story fairly linearly
Everyone always talks about Watch Dogs but this is the probably the worst example of misleading marketing by Ubisoft
https://youtu.be/WdJub3Kz2wI?si=tAagohPedj0evRPd

>>715208671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVG65kt61c
You ever seen this? Completely different from the game that eventually came out.
Ubisoft likes making "gameplay teasers" that are basically just linear cutscenes making it look like you hypothetically have freedom.

>>715207932
Of course I do, but instead of just beating a harmless horde of AI, we prefer to compete against other human players. There are a lot of party vs. party games out there ;)

>>715209197
I wish there was a good recap of what the hell happened with future soldier, its like it had a reboot midway through development to bring it down in tech and in a different direction. Meanwhile the Wii and other cheaper systems got the original intended future soldier world

>>715190697 (OP)
>Guys, we're just like le heckin' e3 ubisoft larpers.

>>715190697 (OP)
>coop shooters

What are some good coop shooters? Ive been wanting to try Squad, Enlisted and even Vietnam Rising storm 2, but I have no one to play with. I just stick with Battlefield 3 and squad up with whoever (old fag)

>>715209354
Almost guaranteed what you see in that video was a tech demo purely made to build up hype. Not enough budget to make an entire game like that. Basic TPS is all they can make.
Then the investors made them switch up the vibe to make it more generic because that's what sells best. That's what I would guess.

>Playing as a nearly perfect recreation of Big Boss, even unlocked the knife stealth kills
>Pic semi related. Not my character. It's also for ants yes.
>Whole backup team also consists of recreations of legendary video game protagonists
>Sam Fisher
>Duke Nukem
>Lara Croft
>Right down to the cigars
>Roaming around Columbia collecting weird lore files and experimenting with different tactics against the cartel as an even more autistic version of the Avengers
>Never have to pay for shitcoins to unlock crates if you play all the different modes

>Go online
>Other players will play as different versions of Snake, Sam, and Duke all the time
>Sometimes players have rare custom skins or unlocks liks active camo backpacks and shit
>Co-Op is great fun enough but even PvP can get wild if you commit to stealth takedowns and enemy humiliation

>Even has a horde mode for autists like me who don't mind grinding for shitcoins

>Earning shitcoins offline is possible because a lot of the earning is handle by the game itself then is greenlit by a server
>A single connection updates your permissions, proving they can make all of it work offline later down the line

Ghost Recon Wildlands is one of the best games of the past 20 years, even if you are alone.
When Ubisoft kills the servers I am going to be fucking furious. They better not lock out crate content.

>>715190697 (OP)
Im playing coop hunting

>>715209987
I made a big boss type character in MonWorl too.
I don't remember what the current gear is but it's not what I have in this picture. World isn't my most recent hunter anyway. I like it but something is off for me.

>>715209982
>Roaming around Columbia
IT'S BOLIVIA GET IT RIGHT

>>715209982
what is this horde mode you're talking about? does it actually reward prestige coins?
i haven't played in years

>>715209982
Pics now

>>715190794
Not really

>>715197531
Tarkov is dogshit

>>715211656
the singleplayer fork of tarkov with fika (coop) and other mods is breddy fun howeverthoughbeit

>>715210549
lol woops

>>715210798
Guerrilla Mode. You get points for every wave that lets you get gear and abilities. You get some shitcoins every 5 waves, more shitcoins if you play with a character in Tier 1 but avoid leveling up past the point you can no longer play on baby difficulty because you need to for solo Guerrilla mode.
Making a new character just for Tier 1 Casual mode Guerilla grinding is one of the more efficient solo shitcoin methods.

>>715211058
I have been trying since I first posted and it keeps failing.
There's a storm in my state and is everything is slow as fuck right now.
I AM TRYING GODDAMNIT

>>715211058
So I can't get anything over 1MB to upload OR download so there's basically no way to even compress what I have to overcome the slow speed. This is bullshit because getting the circular sunglasses for Lara Croft took me fucking forever farming crates and I would like to at least prove I did it.

You can make Duke with default unlocked gear if you want to try it yourself. Sam's sneaking suit is unlocked with a hard as fuck sidequest that has Jeremy Ironside cameo incase you didn't know. It also references Solid Snake at the end.

>>715212396
>if you play with a character in Tier 1 but avoid leveling up past the point you can no longer play on baby difficulty because you need to for solo Guerrilla mode.
>Making a new character just for Tier 1 Casual mode Guerilla grinding is one of the more efficient solo shitcoin methods.
elaborate please.

>>715213563
I believe you
I still want to see it because it sounds amazing

>>715190697 (OP)
Does this count? I just started it because is on Gamepass. Gunplay is pretty fun but holy shit there is so much walking. How do I become faster?

>>715197286
exactly. 9 times out of 10 you're grouped with mouth-breathing retards that have so much adhd that they're can't focus on the game because they're also watching something else on their 2nd&3rd monitor which results in failure everytime. This led me to stop playing games like payday2 10 years ago and I haven't played co-op shooters since. If it was that bad then I can't imagine what it's like today with zoomers and they're drooling lessers known as gen alpha.