Does Skyrim qualify as an immersive sim?

no, there is a singular solution to every problem

>>715192029
damn, had no idea BG3 is an immersive sin :o

>>715191753 (OP)
On the "get immersed in the world" side of things? If modded, yeah. People get extremely autistic and do 200 hour roleplayed hardcore survival playthroughs that put RDR2 to shame, with slice of life qualities like sitting around and eating and fishing and whatnot. On the "objectives have multiple solutions" side of things ? >>715192029

>>715192203 Both are rpgs not a immersive sim you faggot I'll be blunt there are no immersive sims.

>>715191753 (OP)
>immersive sim
as real as the term feminine penis

>>715191753 (OP)
immersive sims aren't even immersive sims
it's a retarded label applied to the wrong games

>>715192203
Actually yeah, BG3 is immersive-sim CRPG hybrid.
Immersive-sim is not a genre, its a game design philosophy.
You can have stealth immersive-sim, horror immersive-sim or RPG immersive-sim.

>>715192751
>i dont know what this thing is, therefore it does not exist.

No, it's fucking not. What the hell are you even talking about. It's open world slop with extremely simplistic, child-friendly "rpg mechanics". Fuck off.

>>715192545
it's called a shenis, bigot

>>715191753 (OP)
No.

>>715192992
thief, system shock, and deus ex basically defined the genre and they don't model any aspect anywhere close enough to be called a simulation and they're no more immersive than the average video game
it's a shit labeling

>>715193390
Ultima Underworld

>>715192443
This
I have AIs running around im game, doing a vigilant of stendar playthrough

I have a mod that adds several factions that try and conquer the map. I can also conquer the map with my team. We go back in forth in the war, trying to push each other out.

The role-playing scenario is the power vacuum caused by the civil war. So far the AIs are doing a pretty good job!

>>715191753 (OP)
I walk on the table and toss their food around

>>715191753 (OP)
>immersive sim
>shitties UI possible
>the only "immersion" is an optional chore

Immersive sims let you choose between various options, Skyrim just lets you choose every option.

>>715194721
Can you name the mods?

>>715192203
not first person

>>715191753 (OP)
With thousands of mods, Skyrim is the best RPG of all time.

>>715192203
BG3 does actually have a lot of imsim elements like using the environment to cause a chain of events and shit, it's not a real imsim but it has a lot more to it than Skyrim does.

>>715192443
The people who get immersed in Skyrim can get immersed in a puddle in the street. Being retarded and/or on drugs is cheating

>stealth and combat
>you can throw bottles
>lockpicking
It meets all the criteria

>>715196492
But it's not even an RPG.

>>715196425
Yeah, the ai mod is CHIM, you'll need a strong system to run it, or using open router + vast.ai combo with really good results. (This costs money but its seriously cheap, maybe .50 an hour?)
The ai can control npcs and is totally aware of surrounding, quests, you. The ai can talk with other ai characters in full dialogue. It has come a long way in the past two years.

I have full on quests thay are completely made up and independent of mods or the base game.

The factions mod is organic factions with the extensions sub mod that adds pic related to the faction list.
It is HARD in the beginning, so best to avoid them, however they take more territory, but when they kill each other it helps you.

I also use the fort takeovers framework for a conquest system

>>715197457
>With thousands of mods

>>715197457
I haven't touched the main quest in years. It is strictly role-playing, and yes with aroun 1000 hand picked mods, it is, and nothing comes close.

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>>715198239
Skyrim Souls (which makes it so that using menus and activities like reading don't pause time) is a literal gamechanger. It's incredible how much it not only improves roleplaying, but also just simple gameplay systems. For example, lockpicking is actually tense now because there's actually time pressure to being found out.

>>715200181
Oh yeah, I've got that too with the immersive animations thing that adds the misc animations. Let me know if youre gonna do the AI mod. Its kinda pain in the ass to get going but it's worth it. I think its better than mantella. I tried thay one for fo4, in that, it felt like I was playing chatgpt. In CHIM it actually feels like a character.

You can do any follower too, just rip their voice files and upload it to clone, and youre good to go! Lol the voice actors were bitching about it a while ago

>>715197584
Processor or GPU?
GPU I'll be fine since I've a 4090
CPU I've only got a 19-12th gen

>>715191753 (OP)
Sure, unless you disagree then no.
Does it matter either way?

>>715201524
Same but a 4070. I've got the 12 gb, I can run it, but the response takes about 45 seconds to cone through. Using vast ai to generate voices, its about 1-2 seconds.

Im currently collecting parts to build a second PC just to run it, thats my next project

>>715201524
Both, during the install you can direct certain things on the gpu or the cpu. I dont remember which ones off the top of my head

>>715191753 (OP)
>Does Skyrim qualify as an immersive sim?
>Magic
>Flying Dragons
>And Bipedal Furries
Yep totally immersive

>>715192443
Is it really immersive if you're the only one who can starve?

>>715202219
With mods, npcs have to eat too and they can die. You can even make them shit

>>715193390
I don't disagree that the name is misleading, but so are RPG's, as literally any game could be considered an RPG if you take it literally.

But every one (who's normal) knows what an RPG is.
What would you consider a better name for Thief/DeusEx, Systemshock or Arx like games to be?

>>715191753 (OP)
Yes. All who disagree will incur Todd’s wrath

>>715202584
i don't remember any mod doing that beside the obvious fetish ones

>>715203784
Its one of those gag mods, bit the shit doesn't disappear so after a while, every city turns into an india simulator

>>715204027
Man i thought the AI handle those, would be fun if i can rp as besieger to a bandit fort and watch them gradually go feral.