Times when the fanbase won

>>715218297 (OP)
Can i get RUNDOWN

>>715218663
NTR shit.

>>715218663
>some waifufag nigga buys new installment of some dating vn
>turns out one of the guys has slept with someone already before meeting you
>whatever still date her
>turns out she still won’t let go of her ex
>angry otakus everywhere

>>715218981
shit

>>715218663
>studio called ELF essentially creates the dating sim genre
>ELF has always had a tendency to make used goods heroines and NTR shit (YU-NO is full of NTR, Dokyuusei has implied NTR, failure routes in their games often had heroine you were pursuing choosing another man, etc.)
>the development of otaku subculture in the 90s moves away from love triangles and drama, newer eroge mostly absent of used goods
>ELF announces successor to one of their classic games
>otaku expects the main childhood heroine will be the designated pure heroine
>marketing indicates this will be the case
>she isn't
>she is your childhood friend but has a doctor boyfriend
>there's even a scene (pic related) where you the player watch from the bushes as she gets fingered by her boyfriend
>her plotline involves you becoming her boyfriend after she breaks up
The outrage wasn't about you, the player, being cucked. It's that you're expected to accept a two-timing slut as a good romantic option in a dating sim. Most of the normalfags who say "what's the big deal?" never play dating sims besides those which exist to mock the entire concept, like Class of '09. Normalfags like all narcissists hate feeling left out of the popular thing, and thus try to get past the gates built to keep them out while simultaneously mocking whatever they're trying to invade for how stupid it is at the same time.

Unlike what /a/ says, ELF didn't go bankrupt. But they did mostly switch over to making NTR games. They made Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei, among the kamige of NTR games. But across the genre you saw the entire concept of used goods/NTR plotlines die out after this game.

>>715218297 (OP)
Still The Best

>>715219098
>some waifufag nigga buys new installment of some dating vn
>>turns out one of the guys has slept with someone already before meeting you
Well that seems like an over reaction--
>>whatever still date her
>>turns out she still won’t let go of her ex
>>angry otakus everywhere
I take back what i said lol, completely valid. Dont cuck the fucking player

>>715219098
>being a cuck is okay
?

>>715225187
Most broads have been in relationships already i bet

>>715226016
>broads
what are you from 1950s Brooklyn?

>>715226016
in america sure. but i bet 90's japan was different.

Ok this is the thread to talk about Eternum. This was fucking spectacular.
But it isn't finished.
Amazing story.
Amazing characters.
Amazing soundtrack. Looked up one song, only had like 45k plays and comments are all from people who read Eternum. 'CASSINELLO – I’d Rather Stay on Earth'
I was hesitant about the graphics at first but they seem to improve over time or you get used to them. The presentation and some sound effects give me UAB vibes, would surprise me if it's not the same guy involved.

>>715224965
>>715225187
I don't see the issue. VN players are already cucks who receive sexual gratification from watching pixel fictional males plow their pixel fictional gfs on a screen. The narrative should complement this.

Is this some kind of self-denial meltdown?

>>715226132
not him but we need to bring back broad. its funny

>>715223293
Wait so the plot is that you're dating a girl who has had a boyfriend before and also you spy on her getting fingered by her current boyfriend?
How the fuck do they make that make sense?

>>715226907
Last 20 years already did. We need to bring back narrow.

I never understand why these people buy cuckge from cuckdevs and then pikachu face when it has cuckshit

>>715226556
>google play
mobile game/port kys

>>715226759
strawman, post instantly disregarded

>>715227450
It's a free VN sperg. It has about 10 places to download it free.

based samurai

>>715218981
japs used to be men and would get violent and angry when they were cheated on instead of getting aroused

>>715227820
>SHIT IS FREE WHY AREN'T YOU EATING IT?!?!?!

>>715227073
jej

>>715227979
This but americans.

>>715218297 (OP)
Didnt win and elf continued to make games for many years, ntr too

>>715227027
Nothing about that is confusing. Life and fantasy dating sims are comolicated.

>>715229280
>company forced to pump out short NTRslop to stay on life support and then eventually die
>this is winning
lol

>>715223293
>Yeah bro, she's got a boyfriend already but you're SUPPOSED to still try and be with her
I'm annoyed this happens in real life like if a girl's in a relationship already, she's off the menu, story's over. I don't get dudes who think "eh I'll convince her to cheat" like you're the reason most women turn into lesbos or hate men, because you couldn't spend 4 minutes walking to a sex toy shop to buy a cheap onahole instead you just need to ruin someone's relationship for a smidgen of pussy.

I play dating VNs to experience something I can't in real life, why do they gotta keep reminding me girls are whores?
I can't even get into the ones where I am the bull, because it just keeps reinforcing that aspect and I'm betraying a fellow man to do so.

>>715229697
Used pussy at that

NTR is like any other fetish, Okay as long as it's not usedd as a cudgel against the player/viewer/(You) but many of the NTR works are more focused on the misery rather than the actual fetish and at that point i don't think anyone's having fun

Surpise NTR is absolute shit tho and deserves the scorn, guess that's wwhy many of the Jap works have the genre in bog fat bold letters in the cover

>>715230020
I can even get the Netorare/Netorase angle as long as it's expected and not dumped on you

But i find Netori completely shit, vile and honestly kinda gay
Rather than focusing on the relationship between (You) and a hot chick, it's a relationship beetweeen (You) and the used goods of another guy and the pleasure derived from ruining things for others

>>715229697
women overwhelmingly prefer men who are "taken"

>>715229697
A woman having a relationship already doesn't mean anything to you. It's bros before hos, not random strangers before hos.

>>715231004
it's common decency to not murder strangers, so why would you murder them mentally by stealing or attempting to steal their girlfriend?

>>715231070
Murder is a legal term for killing without justification. Killing strangers can easily be argued as justified.

>>715219098
How'd the fanbase win then? Did the writer sudoku?

>>715232198
based and violence-pilled

>>715232198
show a single time stealing someone's girlfriend was justified. in anime.

>>715233023
End of Evangelion.

>>715231004
I got catfished by a girl for a solid year who lived 30 hours away and when we finally met (she agreed to let me stay at her house) she admitted to having a boyfriend she "only just met a month ago". He lived in another country and so it was just her and I but the whole admission put me off trying anything with her and so it was an awkward night of just sleeping on the couch and leaving the following morning. Some times I think back to it and wonder if I should've convinced her to cheat but I also didn't want her to kick me out and go sleep in a bush somewhere since it was 11pm and every place was shut + no hotels. I'll never understand why she agreed to it in the first place, maybe last minute regrets? Maybe thought I was ugly irl? It's hard to trust women after something like that.

>>715218297 (OP)
Man, I remember when great men used to all think like this. Now theres all these fag cucks that like buying cuck games and female protagonists that fuck other fat guys. Japan certainly has fallen.

>>715218297 (OP)
sad

>>715218297 (OP)
base

>>715233023
Berserk

>>715223293
I dont care about dating sims but that was a nice post.

>>715231004
>bro's b4hos, have my potential wife
See no, bros need their own hos. We don't share holes because that's fucking gay.

>>715231004
Any woman who can be seduced out of a non-destructive relationship is the reddest flag known to man. It shows she has no loyalty and will do the exact same thing to you given the opportunity.

>>715223293
>failure routes in their games often had heroine you were pursuing choosing another man
yes. thats why its called a fail route. git gud.

>>715227318
>Advertise your new game as a pure love title(no used goods or sluts that can't get over their ex)
>This is a lie and it isn't a pure love title
Now for the extra parts
>Releases SAME DAY as Rance 6 advertised as NOT a pure love game
>isn't a pure love game
>sells massively since there was no false advertising
>people aren't pissed
>no angry letters
Face the facts faggot, don't lie and you don't get in shit

>>715223293
>The outrage wasn't about you, the player, being cucked. It's that you're expected to accept a two-timing slut as a good romantic option in a dating sim
>there are multiple options
>some bad some good
>get angry that you chose a bad girl
kek japanese are trully the chinese of 2000s.

>>715239802
>get angry that you chose a bad girl
It wasn't just any girl, it was the main heroine. Intentionally making her shit will obviously piss people off.

>>715229280
They were one of the biggest eroge studios in the '90s, making games like Words Worth ("your resistance makes my penis harder" horse meme game), YU-NO, and the first dating sims in Dokyuusei and Kakyuusei. By the '10s, they were making NTR games, before they shut down in 2015. This sure isn't a success story. You'll never meet a Kakyuusei defender who actually played it, or dating games at all.

Even their most critically well received NTRge (pic related) is directly inspired by the Kakyuusei fallout. Like, look at this shit. The lead heroine is a dead ringer for the Kakyuusei slut. Except now she isn't just a childhood friend but a tomboy, too, and it's purely an NTR game. They also made a netori game and a couple of sequels, and that was it for ELF.

>>715219098
So, clair obscur, but with angry players instead of cucks.

god, I forgot this game exists... I think I came across this when I first started reading VN using Atlas?
>>715239770
Rance 6 is such an experience... sometime you just get your girl stolen and join enemy faction for no reason...

>>715232198
>Murder is a legal term for killing without justification. Killing strangers can easily be argued as justified.

>>715239941
oh ok yeah that was just trolling your paying customers
get pissed lmao

>>715240028
I'm sure most people only remember either Yu-No or Dokyusei... the rest is intentionally ignored when discussing them, heck even that time travel anime about working on eroge also ignore them.

>>715240071
That only happen with the trio of chads-nation. They seduce your female commanders who have low-love for Rance until an event triggers.

>>715240048
Strangely, I don't really recall seeing people cry about that.

>>715224387
i can't believe reddit did it...

>>715227979
>men
>get angry when a fictional woman cheats with a fictional man on a fictional man they daydream of being because they have no real chance of ever having any contact with a non-fictional woman

When Love Live collabed with Granblue Fantasy and didn't force the player to change to the female avatar, LL fans jumped ship hard and they lost 90% of their fans overnight

>>715240908
I wanted to say it's pathetic as fuck, but then again ""playing""" gacha is even more pathetic.
I also wanted to say it's based, because a lot of people stopped ""playing"" a gacha, but then again, you can bet they just started ""playing"" another.
There for, there's nothing for me to say.

For the moment.

>>715240908
Wasn't this one in particular from when that character's VA was revealed to have starred in porn back in the day

>>715241253
wasnt he angry cause they made a spin off on mobile? he acted like they were gonna abandon pc gaming all together.

>>715240028
Is there similar NTR works of your pic? i prefer the slow burn.

>>715241653
>Announce a new Diablo game at a PC centric event
>have been hyping it up as a big announcement at the event in all your marketing
>Diablo fans hyped for a new game after all this time
>It's a fucking phone game for the chinks
I'd be pissed too. They announced a fucking phone game at an event for PC gamers in the west when the game is made predominantly for the Chinese while leading on the fans into thinking it was a proper new title.

>>715240232
Some did. But the cuck force was too strong, specially during the heyday of it's hype.

>>715242139
all the big publishers made non-free full-price-upfront no-mtx games for mobile at the start, but everyone shat on it for being on mobile and not pc. pc gamers were so scared of losing their position that publishers were forced to cater to the freemium mobile crowd and went down the rabbithole that is mobile gaming of our timeline.
at least square enix, rockstar and capcom still do full price no mtx games.
nintendo tried it too but their investors told them to stop that after that mario run game.

>>715242147
I don't recall seeing people react to that in a positive manner either. Most seemed to simply not care.
Some like her, some don't, I've seen only a couple of people calling her "used goods", but not a single time someone saying that he likes her because she's "used goods".

>>715223293
You know it’s one thing if they were trying to subvert things by creating more realistic heroines with more realistic lives, but the fingering and watching from the bushes is just fetish shit

>>715231004
Love thy neighbour as thy self?

>>715231004
nigger mentality

>>715232331
>How'd the fanbase win then?
broke the cd

>>715226358
>but i bet 90's japan was different.
LMAOOOOO

>>715243565
voyeurism if you will

>>715223293
You are full of shit, there is no NTR in YU-NO.

USED
GOODS

>>715227318
Not a cuckge and not a cuck dev

>>715223293
>across the genre you saw the entire concept of used goods/NTR plotlines die out after this game
I see. The heroes we needed but didn't deserve.

>>715223293
>the dude even has a comically evil smile
They weren’t even trying to hide it under the guise of “this happens irl all the time!”
Just a blatant fuck you. I would be mad too.

>>715248221
I don't see it as a fetish scene myself but maybe he's thinking of that bit with Sayless.

>>715219098
How dare they depict w*m*n realistically, that's a crime against gamers everywhere.

>>715242418
She should've been cremated together with her dead husband, like in my home country of Bharat. Westerners lack all dignity and have no morality. Am Yisrael Chai and God bless you.

Otaku used to be so fucking based before the NTR disease took over.

>>715227318
>pikachu face