IF YOU'VE PIRATED ANY NINTENDO GAMES, WE WILL FIND YOU AND PERMANENTLY END YOU!

OH FUCK
The site I downloaded from got siezed
I'm totally fucked, aren't I?

>an estimated loss of $170 million
>TL Note: We multiplied download totals by MSRP and assumed that everyone would've bought the games if the site didn't exist

WHO ARE YOU QUOTING FAGGOT

170 / 3.2 = $53.13

They're claiming each download causes a loss of $53

>>715228227 (OP)
>Have thing
>People make copy of your thing for their personal use. Your thing is still intact
>AAAAAAAHHHHHH MY WOULD-BE MONEY! THIS IS ROBBERY!

Reminder that the FBI is an arm of the capitalist state that exists to protect profits and to keep workers in line. That's why they will shut down piracy sites while letting rich pedophiles off free.
Reminder that you are fed pro-FBI propaganda all around you. Silence of the Lambs. X-Files. Twin Peaks. Deadly Premonition. Alan Wake 2.

>>715228227 (OP)
how do they know the download #s?

new games aren't even worth pirating these days

>>715228734
this is so dumb. I gave up buying switch games after TotK was such a disappointment. I did not stop pirating them though. it wasn't a lost sale, it was just me playing the game

>>715230195
I do wonder how much money is lost from people pirating when they genuinely would have bought if the torrent didn't exist, compared to how much is made because someone who wasn't going to buy changed their mind after pirating. I've definitely pirated a few games and then ended up buying them to add to my Steam library.

>>715228227 (OP)
Looks like all the places I download Nintendo games are still fine

>>715228227 (OP)
Too late tendies, I've already downloaded every worthwhile Switch game

>>715230490
>>715228734
It’s flat out delusional to think piracy has 0 impact on software sales. No, not every pirate is a lost sale, obviously, but if people have the option to get a game for free or pay $70, a lot of people are going to pick free and yes there’s a chance they would have been willing to pay for it if there was no other option

>>715228227 (OP)
lol the fbi wont arrest pedophiles but will arrest tendie pirares

MAGA

>>715228227 (OP)
>fastforward 40 years
>the Īgurumaru, Nintendo's private aircraft carrier, enters the bay of San Francisco

>>715228227 (OP)
>$170 million loss
Good luck proving that on a court.

>>715228227 (OP)
>

>>715230703
wrong. I want to play a lot of PC games with denuvo. I have not and will not buy them. either they get cracked or they get sold for $5 max which is barely a sale.

>>715230703
Every genuine study shows that piracy actually increases sales in the long run.

>>715228227 (OP)
Why do they assume that people pirating would buy the games? Only a small percentage of those are potential buyers

>>715230846
If Nintendo became irl Arasaka I would not be surprised whatsoever.

>>715230828
that's the reason that 5 torrent search engines are still up so far

>>715230969
>Why do they assume
Stupid question. They do what they're lobbied to.

Nintendo ninjas? No, Nintendo spooks.

>>715230906
wrong [personal anectode]
Okay dude
>>715230965
Then why would corporations not do that and get more money you fucking retard? Are you people seriously this delusional?

>>715231094
Because then they don't have total control, as demonstrated by Video Games "Europe"'s reply to the Stop Destroying Games initiative.

>>715231094
>why do corporations engage in short-sighted behavior that screws over the population
Truly it is a mystery.

Just admit that piracy is theft and that it damages the copyright owners. It is both unlawful and unethical. Stop coping.

I want to be clear about my libertarian views.

Copying a product is not stealing.

>>715231208
>Play music
>Genius musician like Mozart hear your music, remember it, write it down, then play it. He didn't claim he own it or made it.
>AAAAAAAHHHH THIS IS LITERALLY THEFT!

>>715230703
it has a positive impact, i would never have gotten into gaming if not for pirating

>>715231215
not paying your barber is still a crime

oy vey this thread is dangerously antisemitic

>>715231215
make a book, game, song, movie, drawing, 3d model, etc. to sell and then tell me if you're okay with it being copied without giving you a cent

>>715231183
>>715231195
>You don’t get it man, if the company just lets you download their game for free with no obstacles it’ll actually make them more money
>I dunno, that doesn’t make sense
>YOU DONT GET IT MAN! THE CORPORATIONS JUST LIKE WANT CONTROL AND LIKE THEYRE STUPID! IF THEY JUST LET EVERYONE DOWNLOAD THEIR GAMES FOR FREE THEY WOULD MAKE SO MUCH MORE MONEY
Okay

>>715231215
it's called theft of services, look it up

>>715231394
Why would I pay a barber for buzzing my own hair?

>>715230965
Sources: *

>>715230703
>Piracy has an impact on sales
>My source? I made it up. I did my own research. I believe in alternative facts. Nintendo told me in a dream.
fuck off

What sites were affected?

>>715231394
The service my barber offers is not information i can copy. It's a service.
If someone copies your idea because you're too stupid to keep it for yourself it's not my problem, you can't invent a can opener and then pretent i can't make a better one.
>>715231443
i am

>>715228227 (OP)
Ending piracy will actually kill gaming
Without piracy I wouldn't have gotten addicted to this trash hobby and would have had a life.

>>715231446
>>715231504
You get paid for these posts?

Make more fucking demos
How's that?

>>715231608
you have never made anything of your own in your entire life

>>715231560
>a game that usually costs $70 having an easily accessible identical version of it that costs $0 will not impact sales whatsoever
Are
You
Retarded?

>>715230703
Piracy will always be a service issue. I've purchased games I could've pirated purely for ease of updates and shit like that. The FBI post is still fucking retarded for exactly the reason the guy you're replying to stated. I'd be willing a majority of those 3.2 million downloads were never going to give Nintendo money in the first place.

>>715230906
>I didn't
>so nobody did
Based retard.

>>715231776
You do realize that Nintendo pirates usually don't even have the hardware right?
How and why do you believe that emulation fag's would pay for these games?

>>715231748
You just can't find any argument that is not personal attacks, because you're a midwit. Prove me your invention is worth a monopoly that kills any further development.

What all of you fail to understand is that you're biased by poverty/resent
You only believe piracy is correct because stealing benefits you, the same way BLM rioters believe looting is justice, their brains just convinced themselves that they're victims fighting against oppressors to justify being criminals
This is the biggest filter separating high trust societies/walled gardens living in harmony from ghettos that will never know peace. Only a truly righteous person can have a biased view on what's right or wrong without basing their world view on whatever benefits them

>>715231327
Is that little bit of masterpiece theater supposed to be an argument? Try communicating like an adult next time.

>>715230965
Incorrect.

Most studies have shown that it's basically impossible to measure the precise impact or make generalized statements because there are so many factors at play. And factors can reach from increasing to decreasing sales, and that HIGHLY depends on the medium. The often quoted EU study that "disproves piracy has a negative impact" is exactly that. It kind of proves that everyone using that study as evidence has never actually read it (you should it's actually quite interesting).

Music piracy is the most likely to increase income, but game piracy is more likely to decrease sales. For games it depends if they have DLC, multiplayer components, etc. or not. Additionally music makes most money off of concerts or merch, while gaming only has that as a side gig. Sales are main income.

Additionally their can be a negative impact in one creation of an author, but the next one will have an increased one as more people now buy that one. Problem is if the original negative impact is too high, then there may never BE a followup to actually be able to exploit the bigger fanbase now.

Pure Singleplayer games will most likely result in a reduction of sales, while components that require some sort of online verification (like multiplayer) will massively reduce that negative impact of piracy.

Another factor is original price, the more expensive the original the less likely people are to buy it after pirating it, or will only buy it on a STEEP discount years later... which is still money lost because you never paid the money that you SHOULD have paid by the time you consumed the media.

The large amount of factors at play means that it's very much something you need to look at at a case by case basis, but can never make a generalized statement over it. Can it have a negative impact? Yes. Can it have a neutral impact? Also yes. Can it have a positive impact? Yes, yet again. You can never say for sure.

>>715228227 (OP)
What website?

>>715232034
>this is exactly like blm niggers destroying businesses
Shitty bait from the sharty.

>>715232013
You didn't make your own game.

If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't theft.

>>715232240
it's called a service

>>715232285
Tell me, how does one steal a service?

>>715232180
Entertainment should be made out of passion.

FBI is going after video games now? I thought they only cared to stop stuff like online drug trafficking and cp.
Video games and stuff like movies always seemed kind of low effort and copyright holders would just limply tell sites to stop giving out their products.
Crazy what's going on these days

/v/ doesn't play video games, clearly there is no piracy here.

>>715230195
If there wasn't a way to copy shit, 3/4 of those people would have bought(ed) the games so let's not argue like disingenuous twatwaffles and pretend company wouldn't see a single $.

>>715232034
note I don't actually pirate anything and haven't since ~2005
there's a huge difference between stealing from dogshit AA and AAA devs and indies
just like how I don't give a shit if every f500 goes bankrupt because they all intentionally created this 'low trust' to pump their margins
high trust is for your kind only

>>715228227 (OP)
>marketplaces
Excuse me? These morons.

>>715231208
You speak as if I give a shit if piracy is ethical or not.

>>715231562
some switch website and reskin of said website that did ps4 "games" and child porn allegedly

>>715232315
people still need money to live

You faggots are either extremely new or have the memory of a goldfish. And i'm a zoomer... why are you guys surprised FBI goes after bing bing wahoo?

>>715232308
by not paying for it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft_of_services

>>715231208
Said copyright owners are even less ethical than the pirates by the way.

>>715232546
Then make something worth buying before someone else makes it better, NIGGER.

>>715231562
A bunch of ones I have never heard of until today.

>>715232595
No anon, tell me. Don't just link to a phrase you are parroting. Explain it to me.

>>715232548
BECAUSE NINTENDO IS BAD AND THEY'RE ALSO BAD BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD A SWITCH 2 AND THEY'RE ALSO BAD BECAUSE I CAN'T HOMEBREW IT FOR FREE GAMES ANYMORE

>>715228227 (OP)
Anyone who pirate Nintendo games deserves a death penalty desu

>>715232546
They can do shit in their off time as a hobby. Freely published passion projects made purely to entertain others is better than the mtx filled hellscape gaming is now.

>>715228403
nah usually just distributers get fucked

>>715232034
>You only believe piracy is correct because stealing benefits you
No, I believe piracy is correct because it harms jews

>>715228227 (OP)
So is this what they've been up too instead of looking for the Epstein files?

>>715232285
Paying Pedro to mow my grass is a service. Going to the store and buying a product is not a service. No mater what the jews try to tell you. Pedo can't come and "unmow" my grass whenever he wants to after he is done.

>>715232674
Who the fuck buys nintendo? When i got a switch lite i felt so cucked out from everything included their retrogame """""Service"""""" where i must pay to play something a 20 years old emulator can get me. I gave it back after a month.

>>715232667
sorry buddy but if you don't understand such simple concepts I can't help you

>>715232840
I would have given you a few more (you's) if you atleast tried.

>>715228403
yes, they're gonna rape you in the ass
it's over

>>715230271
well, yeah

>>715232698
fact
anyone playing nintendo slop should die

>>715232819
no but he can sue your ass if you didn't pay him for doing it in the first place

>>715230703
Piracy has no impact on software sales. The vast majority of sales that companies are interested in are made on impulse in reaction to advertising, needing at most a mild deterrent and a good service. If there exists a large audience of pirates, then those pirates were never going to buy anything anyway and were never considered as part of the potential audience.
After the launch advertising window closes piracy can only contribute to the sales of a good product via word of mouth.
The lack of real advertising capability of piracy makes it a complete non-issue unless the service is so bad that it starts driving people to search for better alternatives, which is also why every failed industry always complains about piracy.
>>715231094
>Then why would corporations not do that and get more money you fucking retard? Are you people seriously this delusional?
Because it appeases the shareholders and there is massive pro-copyright marketing being pushed by various lobbies and interest groups. A failed company can blame piracy for their lack of sales really easily and propose a potential fix that doesn't require radical restructuring, only shittier DRM and treating their paying customers like subhuman criminals.
>>715231446
An official free release could be advertised, which would make it the more lucrative impulse purchase service.
Aside from that, companies still provide free weekends and massive sales for their property and there are a number of old games that are released or bundled for free for that very reason.
>>715231394
>>715231452
Publishers do not provide service to pirates. Publishers are the only ones engaged in theft of service (see:Bethesda).
>>715232087
>Problem is if the original negative impact is too high, then there may never BE a followup to actually be able to exploit the bigger fanbase now.
The problem is that there is simply no correlation between buying a game and the continued development of games of that type.

>>715230545
The only honest study not done by big publishers actually showed more sales. Since more people playing the game = more people talking about it. Pirate don't pay for games when they no longer have the option to pirate. They just pirate other things or do something else

>>715228403
This is about online marketplaces where you can buy illegal copies
But I guess the word "buy" is now being twisted to include free products

>>715230490
What make you think you deserve playing non-F2P games for free, moron?

How do you resell a service? Isn't the concept ethereal?

>main site is still up
>shady cancer-filled backup is seized
based

>>715228403
They almost never go after the people who downloaded it unless they are hosting a ton of it or selling said copies. If you just use it usually you’ll be fine with at most an angry letter from your ISP in the mail

>>715232595
Pirates are not stealing a service unless they actually use the official services provided by the publisher or storefront that would require payment.
>But the development
That is entirely paid for by the publisher and an official purchase of software does not pay for the development of a game. If that were necessary, then a used game would still be a "theft of services", possibly even buying a game at full price would be a "theft of services" if the money doesn't go towards development.

>>715230557
>Looks like all the places I download Nintendo games are still fine

Prove it

>>715230703
it's also delusional to think all downloads are lost sales, there is also precedent where piracy has lead to increased sales of game.

Deus Ex Human Revolution would have flopped without it.

>>715228227 (OP)
Doesn't the FBI have better shit to be doing?

>>715230703
I often buy games I pirated and enjoyed,
but I've never enjoyed a game so much I'm willing to throw $70 at it
they can bring down their prices any time

>>715233459
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/games/

>>715233459
Literally just check the bin. All the main sites are still up

>>715233221
what does that have to do with anything posted in this thread? retarded tendie
whether I """"""""""deserve"""""""" to play them or not does not affect the sales figures

>>715228227 (OP)
That $170m could have funded a dozen games, or half of a Playstation exclusive

>>715230703
anecdotally, when my steam game was posted on a pirate website i saw a spike in sales. hard to predict the long term consequences of course
also multiple people told me that they pirated my game. all of them children from europe or south america who would never have bought the game to begin with

>>715233519
The sole purposes of the FBI is to protect those in power and to secure their own funding

>>715233549

>>715231452
>pirate game
>add a single mod
>it's no longer their game
lmao

>>715233575
Illegally obtained copies of games affect sales figures, you absolute shitbrain.

>>715233519
They currently only have desk agents left after their last attempt to radicalize a local gardening club collided with an identical attempt made by the ATF and CIA, consuming a large chunk of their workforce in a fireball of fertilizer.

>>715228227 (OP)
Wage theft is the majority of all theft. The bosses of the largest publishers have likely stolen way more than the pirates they're complaining about. Their complaints and those of their government lapdogs ring hollow. They can join every mayor and governor that ever tried to end graffiti and prostitution in their futile quests.

I always download multiple copies to steal more money from developers

>>715231504
Its pretty well know
https://www.engadget.com/2017-09-22-eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact.html
https://boingboing.net/2010/10/22/author-4chan-bootleg.html

>>715230703
The industry is making more money than it ever has. All other media industries combined can't begin to touch how much money video games make. Piracy doesn't do jack shit.

>>715233774
>Illegally obtained copies of games affect sales figures
Proof? I wasn't going to buy it anyway so prove that it was a lost sale without saying
>but nintendo

>>715230195
Cool
>Copies your final dissertation

>>715234242
Thanks for the peer review.
Can you do some replication studies too?

>>715233909
>download 10000 copies
>company is now bankrupt
No need to thank me just doing my part

>>715234639
If you copy them locally too, you can get more copies even faster!

>industry leaders know that piracy doesn't impact sales (and supposedly benefits sales in the long term), given their suppression of studies that show this lack of impact
>yet they continue spending money and political capital to fight something they know doesn't harm them
?

Last game I pirated was Metro Exodus, and that was after I got it for free on epic but
>epic
so I downloaded it instead.
Got softlocked pretty far into the game with no way to way to rewind and no way to update the game and chapter select would have set me back like 8 hours so I dropped it and never played it again.

>>715235367
You think 'industry leaders' know or care about the people who buy their products? lmao, bet you think nintendo's your friend too.

>>715235742
we're assuming they care about their wallets first and foremost
why would they fight so vehemntly against something that they know doesn't actually harm them?
unless we're arguing that they're irrational agents and are basically the real life equivalent of disney villains

>>715235904
Why would they fund games like Concord and Anthem, that cost them tens of millions and flop terribly?
It's almost as if they don't know what the fuck they're doing and base their decisions on whatever the retards at the top decide on a whim. If they had done legitimate studies that prove piracy harms them, they would be screaming it from the rooftops and sending copies to every lawmaker and senator in every country that cares about IP laws.

>>715235367
when you realize that these people are evil things start to make a lot more sense
they dont mind losing money as long as it makes people suffer

its now time to horde switch games for emulation

what are the must haves?

Stellar Blade wonnered again
Don't @ me nerds

>>715228403
>the one time I don't use a vpn the site gets seized
fuck my fat gay retard life. hopefully it's just a pissed letter from spectrum. only isp in the area besides satellite shit.

>>715236647
These are enough for me.

>>715237151
yeah i got all those thanks

>>715230828
Tendie pirates are pedos though, they even have discords and the gay flags in them.

>>715228227 (OP)
>$170M / 3.2M = $50
lmao, they're implying if those things weren't downloaded they would have been bought instead 100% of the time at the original price.
at the very most I can buy that maybe 5% would have resulted in purchases and that's optimistic.
that would be $8 million dollars which is probably less than that whole operation cost tax payers.

meanwhile pedophiles like the people involved with Epstein are walking free.

>>715230828
it's MIGA get with the times

>>715228227 (OP)
Good.

>>715228227 (OP)
publishers should get comfortable with people owning their games
can't pirate a license :^ )

>>715228227 (OP)
If I'm pirating your games I wasn't gonna buy them in the first place. There is no "loss".

>>715230859
This is the guy that calls everybody "Eric"

>>715231776
It's been proven it doesn't, but if you rather believe in conspiracy theories you do you.
Also the "free identical version" is not on the steam store only poor neets will find it.
The top things that influence piracy is shit overpriced games, just make better games and no one will pirate.

pirates are the digital nigger
simple as

>>715230703
>head dev of Starsector contemplates getting a second job to pay for development costs
>a certain black jew makes a YouTube video on the game
>said black jew also hands out his CD key
>millions of people can now play the game for $0
>official game site gets so much site traffic it crashes
>twice
>the vast majority of the new site visitors end up buying the game
>dev makes so much money he never has to work again
Despite over a million people being given the option to obtain a good game FOR FREE, a large majority of them ended up buying the game anyway because they liked what they saw.
Defeating piracy is super fucking easy. Just make a good product at a reasonable price. Literally that easy. People naturally want to financially support people that make things they like.

>>715238580
And let's not forget Doom became a mega hit, largely in part they gave away the entire first third of the game away for free. And it was a PHYSICAL floppy disc, so even better than free, you played it at their expense.

>>715238580
>Just make a good product at a reasonable price
cool it with the antisemitism

>>715228227 (OP)
The FBI can't stop illegal immigrants and niggers committing crimes, but they can stop tendies from download Ocarina of Time?

Refusing to give your money to corporations should be punished by death and the seizure of all of your assets.

>>715230271
>Muh capitalism
Yeah, I'm sure things would be SOOOO much better under communist bureocracy. Idiot.

>>715237626
>MIGA
>Let's Israel get bombed to shit by Iran so he can obliterate their Nuclear Facilities
Uh-huh.....

Tendies on Twitter actually celebrated this, astonishingly, because they twisted this to becoming an own against the Steam Deck. They're as mindbrokenly vengeful against the Deck as the tendies here are against Playstation.

>>715228227 (OP)
>pirated, muh piracy, etc
stop trying to force that buzzword

>>715237151
>4 zelda games and they're all bad ones
lmao

>>715239104
illegal immigrants, niggers and stopping piracy all benefit the same group

>>715239550
Well yeah, it's zelda

>>715239250
I think society would be better off if we produced things for use rather than for profit.

>>715239297
Retard. Israel started the incident so Trump would have an excuse. He does anything they tell him.

>>715239250
Unironically. We need to send rualoid chuds back to the mines, but they need to be doing it for the benefit of society rather than oil jews.

>>715240036
>He does anything they tell him
Are we at war with Iran like Israel wants?

>>715240117
You know Communism was invented by a Jew, right?

>>715240262
And he called out the jew for worshipping money as a god.

>>715240286
>He still can't see the grift
So sad...

>>715240315
Where are the Epstein files then?

>>715240228
You're right anon. It's completely resolved and Iran will never do anything to the US due to his actions bombing a country for Jews. Use some foresight, cuckservative.

>>715240339
What does that have anything to do with what we're talking about right now anon?

>>715231394
False equivalence. I owe a barber that would have given me a caesar 0 if I get someone else to do it for free.
Piracy is getting someone to copy the original product, or service.
Your example applies when someone downloaded wii games directly from Nintendo servers.

>>715240379
You argue for a system that is run by pedophiles for the benefit of pedophiles that defends pedophiles even when it's obvious all of them are pedophiles, yet you say others are falling for a grift.

>>715228734
OY VEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY HOW DARE YOU GOY. ANTI-SEMITE! our estimates are quite conservative. you've cost us over 6000 gorillion dollars!

>>715240370
Stop seething and answer the question. You were freaking out that we would go to war with Iran 3 weeks ago. Are we at war with Iran, yes or no?

(You) are next

LONG LIVE PALWORLD

>>715240418
I'm arguing AGAINST a system that's far stupider than anything we have right now. Corruption in the government happens due to Bureocratic power growing too large. Tell me then, how adding MORE BUREOCRACY is going to fix that problem, dumbass.

Think before you speak.

>>715240553
You're arguing for a system run by rich jewish pedophiles. You can cope about that any way you want, but that's the system you are telling everyone we should like.
Even nazis understand the root cause of the problem.

>>715240547
>Bleeds money
>Reuses to fix save deleting bug on PS5
It's already dead, Jim.

>>715240553
you're right, leave it to the corpos who can force whatever terms they like and sue you off the face of the earth if you look at them funny, and exist solely to milk every last drop off you, the consumer. I'm sure things will totally work out

>>715240638
>You're arguing for
Where am I arguing FOR anything idiot?
>Nazis
You mean the people who fought a war to stop the spread of Communism?

>>715240686
The only reason corpos have so much power is because the bureocracy has their back and pays them money to make up for profit losses they'd get for pushing their agendas through government contracts and such.

We haven't had proper Capitalism since the FED was created (by Jews). Buying into the Jewish lie and adopting Communism is LITERALLY what they want you to do.

>>715240842
By arguing against people who correctly identify capitalism as jewish, pedophilic, and destructive.

>>715240948
I'm arguing AGAINST idiots who GENUINELY believe Communism is a better option.

>>715240842
>You mean the people who fought a war to stop the spread of Communism?
Why would that matter? They were against jewish capitalism. That is what matters, not what replaces it. Nazis were still socialist. They believed the core axiom that you contribute what you can, and society will reward you with what you deserve.

>>715240997
And yet you only seethe when people attack capitalism. It is telling.

>>715241018
I know this song and dance all too well. Every time some post starts bitching about Capitalism, there's some Commie behind it trying to gaslight people into thinking Communism is a good idea.

If that's not the case, the feel free to reply to my original post with what your "better alternative is" >>715239250 rather spending all this time defending Communism like you've done so far.

>>715241018
A society that was Ethically united, and had closed borders.

You killed all chances at that when you imported millions of niggers and Arabs into the western world. There's a reason Japan is top tier. 97% Japanese.

>>715241123
Why do you keep saying I'm for communism right after I said I want to see capitalism disappear, and brought nazis up as a prime example of doing just that?
I'm starting to think you're probably a kvetching jew. You got exposed for all your shilling from the 4chan hack.
People are waking up to your tricks.

>>715241205
>better just give up and let jews rule over us. It's over. Let's go home boys, good times are behind us they can NEVER come back.

>>715241373
If you think adoption socialism with open borders and millions of niggers in your nation then you are the commie Jew faggot. Nazis weren't SOCIALIST. They were NATIONALIST SOCIALIST. Socialism doesn't work unless the nation is closed, homogeneous, and has a strong sense of national and cultural identity.

Before we can even begin to THINK of doing anything like that, need to find a way to expell all non-whites from your nation. Otherwise, you'll be paying taxes to support the swarms of subhumans that populate your nation. Congratulations moron.

You're not gonna gaslight me against what I already know to be true.

Nationalism Socialism isn't the same brand of Socialism you leftists preach, you commie retard.

>>715240036
so much so that he didn't start a war

>>715240454
it was hilarious to see all the "YOU'LL GET DRAFTED" fear-mongering

>>715241564
Why are you trying to steer the conversation away from capitalism, kike?
You are so desperate to associate anyone who hates capitalism as being some left wing blue haired lunatic, even though the societies that were most free of jewish rule would be identified as socialist today.

>>715241713
Yep, there it is.

Gaslighting commie kike faggot. Go get fucked by a pack of niggers.

>>715241758
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking kike. Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Singapore under dictatorial rule, and many more are all examples of what can be achieved when you do not allow yourself to be a slave to jewish capital.
You aren't fooling anyone anymore.

>>715230703
>yes there’s a chance they would have been willing to pay for it if there was no other option
the same logic works the other way around, it isn't a given that piracy effects sales in a meaningful way

>>715230703
They don't sell pokemon emerald anymore retarde

>>715228227 (OP)
This is apparently more important and worst national threat compared to human trafficking,epstein case,pedo cults and drug trafficking LOL. this world is a fucking joke.

>>715241821
>Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, Singapore under dictatorial rule, and many more are all examples of what can be achieved when you do not allow yourself to be a slave to jewish capital.

I thought they were examples of what can be achieved when you do not allow things like morality, ethics or human rights to hold you back from seizing the power that you've convinced yourself you're entitled to possess, because you're ego tripping so hard that you genuinely believe that you and you alone should be allowed to decide the country's future, and by extension, the world's future, and anyone who dares to stand in your way is just an obstacle to be removed, and that being a dictator ultimately revolves around the endless pursuit of more power for power's sake and the freedom to indulge in violence and cruelty without the fear of consequences. But that sounds like crazy talk, right?

>>715242106
Capitalism is what happens when you have no morality, ethics, and human rights. Where you can trade humans as slaves, force people to work 21 days on and have 1 day off, have people die in machines and only be forced to improve working conditions because of government pressure.
When you jewish capitalists are unrestrained you commit the worst atrocities in modern history. Look at the American medical industry for a prime example of this.
I would sooner trust an outright communist with doing what is moral than a jew/capitalist. The jew/captialist will only do what's right when it is the cheapest option.

The only game I ever pirated is Factorio because fuck a dev who won't put his shit on sale

>>715242251
>tumblr opinion

>>715242251
Look, the thing is, no matter what system you build, you are always going to be dealing with wannabe dictator cunts who won't be happy unless they're King Shit of Turd Mountain, and it only takes one of those cunts to ruin even the most well-intentioned of systems. It happened to capitalism, it happened to communism, it happens to every system. That kind of shit is built into the human psyche. Everyone has that monkey in the brain who wants to be the alpha male of the tribe and have all of the bananas and girl monkeys to himself. You can't make a perfect system unless you basically tear down the entire human psyche and rebuild it from scratch, and good luck with that.

>>715242379
Tumblr advocated for removing jewish influence?
No wonder why (((Yahoo))) killed it

fuck ziggers but based russians will keep this shit running. theres nothing the muttmerican glowies can do to spoil the fun

>>715230195
>I’m entitled to a free copy of the thing you bought
No you’re not entitled to a product or service just because other people pay for it to exist, you’re like the subhumans who don’t pay for a subway ticket and jump over the turnstiles.

>>715242425
Dictators are always preferable to jewish capitalism. Even feudalism would be better than capitalism. In fact it was better, it was the most stable system of civilization for over 1000 years.

>>715242276
its the only game actually worth the money. consider the price to hours played you have in the game. dev deserves it imo

>>715228227 (OP)
>marketplace
>free games
What are they implying here?

>>715228227 (OP)
>americans and their "freedom"

>>715232820
>Who the fuck buys nintendo?
150 million people at least, next stupid question.

>>715242514
>Dictators are always preferable to jewish capitalism.

What you're really saying is "Dictators are preferable if they're aligned with my interests." Isn't the "jewish capitalism" you're talking about just another form of dictatorship? Isn't that exactly what you're scared the jews are doing, creating a new world order where they reign with an iron fist? If that's true, then all you're really doing is choosing one dictator over another.

>>715242628
*taps sign*

>is a highly developed mixed economy with state-ownership in strategic areas in your path
why hasnt america embraced real freedom and democracy?

>>715242746
Jews are cosmopolitan oligarchs. They concentrate wealth in their jewish cities and collude to make sure the greater portion of the wealth ends up in their cabal.
A dictatorship has centralized power in a leader with a clear vision, one who sets the tone for society. How to think, how to act, to inspire, to give something to believe in.
That is why people voted Trump, but instead of being a true leader he capitulated. Look at the Epstein files and how they were handled.

>>715242517
death stranding is basically factorio

>>715230703
We're consumers and collectors. We love to spend money on shit just because. Piracy has been part of gaming as much as it has been part of anime and manga, yet all of these have been booming like crazy over the last three decades.

>>715242908
But the end result is the same, right? A small minority has all the wealth and power, and everyone else can go fuck themselves. You can dress it up in twenty dollar words, but it always boils down to the same thing: monkey wants all the bananas for himself.

>>715242996
No, in socialist societies you produce for the benefit of that society. In capitalism it is for the benefit of the few.
Nazis believed it should be for the benefit of the nation, while communists go a step further and believe it should be global.
Regardless of how far you wish to go, the fact remains that capitalism is fundamentally about giving rich people as much money as possible.

>>715243131
>in socialist societies you produce for the benefit of that society.

Yeah, that's the intention, but like I said, it only takes one power-hungry cunt to turn it into "you produce for the benefit of me". You're talking about how the system SHOULD work, but I'm talking about how the system DOES work.

>>715243256
And suffering a bad leader is still infinitely better than letting capitalism take over.
Look at every society before the 1800s.

>>715243354
See, you're being redundant again. You're still just saying that you'd rather live in one bad system than another bad system when they both boil down to the same shit: the people on top can do whatever they want and everyone else gets fucked. You're basically saying "the strong ruling over the weak is fine as long as the strong leave me alone," but you don't seem to realize that there's nothing stopping them from treating you as just another weakling to crush. Or you probably envision yourself as one of the strong ones crushing the weak, in which case, you have made two fundamental misunderstandings: you believe that the bars on the tiger cage are there to protect the tiger, and you believe that you are the tiger. You couldn't be more wrong.

if you want to see a functioning socialist society on a small level, you can just observe christian monestaries. entirely self sufficient and equal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZqfd-0smM

>>715244106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awKjusa-JFQ
This is what you want. This is what you advocate for.
People like you need to go to the mines to benefit the rest of society, rather than spread your harmful ideology.

>>715228734
>Numbers we made up
Typical governments

>>715243131
>No, in socialist societies you produce for the benefit of that society.
what happened to a laborer being entitled to the sweat of his labor, red?
>In capitalism it is for the benefit of the few.
indeed for the laborer himself.

>It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest.

>>715230828
Are you legit retarded?

another poor brown seethe thread

>>715230703
What was that band that put their album on a torrent site and told people to pirate it and donatr however muhc they wanted and ended up making more money on that album than their other albums?
If you make a good product people will be more than willing to financially support it.

>>715244149
The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't matter how good the system you propose sounds, if you don't take human nature into account, it's not going to last long without being corrupted. Say what you will about capitalism, and no, I won't claim that it's a great system, but it is still a system that accounts for human nature, which is why it has lasted so long. Capitalism doesn't pretend that humanity's innate desire for power and resources isn't there, it works with that desire. Meanwhile, every time someone tries to implement communism, they go "Step One, confiscate all the wealth, Step Two, trust whoever has all the wealth to redistribute it fairly, Step Three, oops they 'accidentally' redistributed all the wealth to themselves, Step Four, oops now everyone who complains is in a gulag, Step Five, oops everyone else is starving to death while the Supreme Leader feasts on steak and caviar". A system that expects people to not act selfishly is a system that is doomed to fail.

>>715228227 (OP)
Is it really so hard to understand that it is not losses, because most pirated games were never going to be a purchase?

>>715228227 (OP)
That's one good thing about running my router without a wifi password

>it’s not stealing because I wasn’t going to buy it anyway
sasuga nigger

>>715244509
All human civilization was people living together in small groups where everyone shared the burden by doing what they were capable of.
The system you glaze is entirely an invention of evil jews in order to compound their slice of the capital pie.
You don't care about human nature, if you did you would understand immediately why everyone who isn't a jew or controlled by the jew hates capitalism.

>>715244640
>it’s not stealing because I wasn’t going to buy it anyway
So someone giving you a gift means you stole it? Genius.

>>715233174
>This is about online marketplaces where you can buy illegal copies
No it isn't, retard. They were just regular piracy sites.
>As part of the actions announced today, the FBI has obtained authorization to seize the domain of multiple sites, to include nsw2u.com, nswdl.com, game-2u.com, bigngame.com, ps4pkg.com, ps4pkg.net, and mgnetu.com. These domains hosted and facilitated access to the pirated video games. Anyone visiting these sites will now view a seizure banner that notifies them the domain has been seized by federal authorities.

>>715244208
>red
Hitler and Mussolini were communists?
Just fucking yourself you disgusting fucking kike. I promise you when Iran gets their hands on you it will be MUCH more painful for you, so just end it now.

>>715228227 (OP)

Nice freedom.

Piracy is legal in russia, use russian domain .su, use russian server. No files will removed ever, period.

>it’s not stealing I stole it from you as a gift
sasuga nigger

>>715244829
>>it’s not stealing because I wasn’t going to buy it anyway
>Wasn't going to buy an item
>Gets gifted it
>"WOW YOU STOLE IT!!!!"

>YOU HECKING GAVE IT TO ME AS A GIFT BECAUSE…YOU JUST HECKING DID OKAYYYYY
sausage nigger

>>715244689
>All human civilization was people living together in small groups where everyone shared the burden by doing what they were capable of.

Yeah, and even back then there were selfish cunts to wanted to rule all they could see. Even back in prehistoric times there were cavemen who would gladly club the tribe chief over the head when no one's looking and feed his body to a sabertooth cat to be the new chief and have first dibs on the best meat and cavewoman booty. You're acting like the jews have a monopoly on being power-hungry scheming cunts when the truth is, they don't, that shit's inherent to the entire human race. Not even you are immune. I don't think you just hate the jews, you envy them too. You want to be everything that you say they are, you want the power you accuse them of having. You're just another angry caveman, dreaming of clubbing the chief so you can be the chief.

>>715232445
>bought(ed)
It's still just fucking bought you mouth breathing aspie
More to the point, you're suggesting we do away with copying, which the whole of the internet is effectively compromised of with or without privacy. Digging to give more power to the government and not realizing it again, retard?

>>715244943
I stole it and then gave it to you as a gift, that means you stole it :)

>>715231394
i went to the barber, asked them to give me a nice cut, then next month i took my $20 hair kit and started copying their cut
i LITERALLY pirated my barber, fucking seethe

>I didn’t even want to steal it anyway :)
>steals it anyway
sasuga….nigger

>>715245018
Your barber isn't being paid for his work, you are literally pirating

>>715245064
>He plays games
>He plays games he pirated
Casual

>>715244731
>literal piracy sites
I'll care more about this shit when this mudslide obviously comes down for emulation next.

>>715245107
not only have i been pirating my barber on my own head for 2 years, i've even distributed my barber to other people for free
i'm literally killing the industry, devilish

>>715228227 (OP)
>Shuts it down after Switch 2 comes out and when nobody except poorfags in 3rd world countries cares

The absolute state of the FBI

>>715245221
Not only are you stealing, you giving free haircuts means the people who got the haircuts are also stealing from the barber... truly devilish

>>715244689
You mean monarchy?
lol, LMAO

>>715231394
>go to barber
>ended up with less hair
wtf, barber should pay me instead

Land of the free

>>715245387
>Walk into barber
>He takes your hair and your money

This is so fucked up

>>715228227 (OP)
gog-games and 1337x are still up, what exactly got taken down?

>>715229690
That's because you're averaging MSRP that varies between products.

>>715245472
A switch rom site

>>715232034
Piracy has far far more benefits for me for the sake of modification, preservation, and technical exploration than just saving money. I have the money to spend, but piracy provides options I literally cannot buy.

>>715228227 (OP)
>Download a rom of game
>Company loses money
>Set up download script and external hard drives to download game repeatedly
>Companies bank accounts drop to 0 and go bankrupt
>Format hard drive, repeat with different game
>Wipe out entire video game industry

>>715245706
Piracy allows me to buy gaming hardware. So really I'm still supporting the gaming industry. If I couldn't buy both the hardware and the software then I wouldn't have spent any money in the gaming industry at all. Nintendo is far better off having me spend $300 once than $0.

>>715244731
so this only affects tards who rely on ad infested DDL sites?

>>715245840
Infested with what? You mean to tell me there's viruses on my Switch?

>>715238580
Do you have any examples were already super popular aaa games benefited from piracy? How does nintendo make money from someone pirating botw?

>>715245913
Nintendo makes money from pirates buying the Switch unless they're selling them at a loss which I doubt

I pirate because I want to.
Sure, I can make an argument about how 80€ is 1 month's worth of frozen meat that I can put in my freezer, but that's just being smart with money.

>>715228403
As long as you didn't seed, you're good, you're not retarded enough to seed, are you?

>>715245953
I’ve only seen posts on here from people pirating it to play on an emulator and talk trash about the switch version. Doesn’t seem like that would boost sales very much.

>>715246019
I don't seed.

>>715232453
>note I don't actually pirate anything and haven't since ~2005
I call cap on that, there's no way you buy movies.

>>715230703
>It’s flat out delusional to think piracy has 0 impact on software sales.
Correct. Piracy actually BOOSTS sales, if the product is really good.

It's been proven time and time again.
>book creator
>make good books
>sell badly
>blame piracy
>do an experiment
>release next book for free as a digital copy
>sale for the same book literally triples
>wouldyoulookatthat.jpg
https://www.techdirt.com/2011/02/11/how-neil-gaiman-went-fearing-piracy-to-believing-its-incredibly-good-thing/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI

Also snowpiercer would have been forgotten if not for koreans illegally spreading the book and translating it, then figuring out that it's good and making an official movie out of it.
Modern industries fear piracy because the only requirement for this increase is that you need to make an actually good product.

>>715231094
They do though otherwise every game would be using Denigger. The ones that don't are blinded by greed and think the thousands of people that pirated their slop would actually pay money for it.

>>715232453
By the way adblockers ARE piracy, are you going to tell me you don't use adblockers either?

>>715228227 (OP)
FUCK DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING NOW

Not the first website FBI has taken down. Please calm down, faglords.

>>715246029
There's a lot more people who buy Switch and install Atmosphere (physical switch CFW) than people with $500 X3D cpus.

Just look at how many Github stars Atmosphere has compared to emulator projects like Sudachi or Citron.

>>715231947
not him but the world revolves around me and in t his case him too

>>715228227 (OP)
i don't need some moralfag reason to pirate
>see game
>download game
simple as, no need for mental gymnastics and whether it's triple a or indie

>>715245407
more like land of the REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>715232034
Everything is relative and all people are inherently selfish. Righteousness doesn't exist. I will pirate if I'm in the mood to, or buy if I'm in a different mood

>>715246549
FBI runs off taxes. Nintendo not selling games means FBI isn't getting paid. And this affects non-Americans way more than Americans, who typically are the self-righteous type who keeps saying piracy bad.

>>715228734
>assumed that everyone would've bought the games if the site didn't exist
I don't understand why this is brought up as some kind of silver bullet.
>You can't prove I would have bought it!
Then why did you go out of your way to commit copyright infringement to play it? I feel like the solution to not wanting to buy a game is just not playing the game.
>This complex combination of technology and audiovisual art that took years and dozens if not hundreds of people to create is not worth four twenty dollar bills
Then do not play it.

>>715246879
Whether or not piracy improves or reduces game sales is something neither side can prove or disprove. Because every game is different. Even considering consoles, you will definitely sell more consoles if your console can run pirated games, but it's hard to say if you can offset the hardware sales with lost sales on software. You can even say that being able to run pirated software opens you up (just the hardware) to many more markets, not just the primary ones like the US, EU, and several other first world countries.

>>715246106
>Piracy actually BOOSTS sales
The most retarded manchild cope. You know that's not why haters of Nintendo constantly say "HEY I CAN STEAL YOUR GAMES FOR FREE ;)" on every post, under every news, on every website and teach others how to steal as well

>>715228227 (OP)
If you pirate you're brown. You can't disprove this.

>>715228227 (OP)
>3.2 million downloads
>170 million
So nearly every download was at full retail value?

>>715228227 (OP)
LEAVE MY BILLION DOLLAR INTERNATIONAL CORPORATION ALONE!!!

>>715247183
>The most retarded manchild cope.
Have fun providing proof against what's already been established, especially under my post if you're up for it. Don't worry, I'll wait.

>>715228227 (OP)
FBI can suck my greasy pirate balls
I shit on FBI
FBI is a massive pussy organization, too pussy to even talk about epstein
Fuck them, I will continue to sales the seas

>>715228227 (OP)
>Companies spend millions on denuvo
>Pirates are still coping that piracy doesnt impact sales

I guess they are wasting millions just for fun. Just admit that you are a dirty thief and move on

>>715230703
Literally every study says that's a bootlicker take. Piracy is ALWAYS a service issue. If Nintendo hates it so much, they should offer a good service. Or any real service at all instead of just constantly dicking their users.

Why does america love japan so much

>download ROM of an old game on abandoned hardware
>Nowhere official to buy it
>any purchase would be done through a reseller or secondhand from another owner
>no possible way for the original seller or distributor to ever receive a single penny from the purchase
>this is being counted as a "lost sale" likely at full market price

>>715246106
I believe it goes like this:

>games with low popularity+sales
Piracy boosts sales, because these kinds of games mostly lice and die based on if they get traction and piracy can give you that traction
>medium popularity+sales
Breaks even. Enough popularity that piracy isn't going to boost it
>large popularity+sales
Harms sales, but only in the most technical sense. Probably like 0.01% profit reduction. The more expensive the game is at this tier the more piracy harms it because very popular games will have people who want to play it no matter what, and if they can get it for free they'll prefer that

Realistically I think big companies go after piracy to protect their public image more than their profits

>>715244349
>If you make a good product people will be more than willing to financially support it
Stop lying. TECH CHANNELS gave out how to steal Nintendo games. It's not like we're seeing all this anti-Nintendo propaganda by paid shills and pirates because Nintendo is so loved.
This thief cult culture is so fucking retarded, no pirates in the past would say shit like this. They pirated to get shit for free and admitted it

>>715231094
Corporations hate money these days.
They don't make money from customers giving them money anymore which is why it seems like the last 14 years has been increasing hostility to gamers and worse and worse sales.
They sell the "Idea" to investors who then fluff it up with buzz words and purity shittesting the audiences so they can look better for the "Idea" they sell to other investors.

Making money as a business isn't what they modernly do anymore.

>>715247351
Okay go to all the youtube emulation channels and PC mustard race, and ask them, "hey all you who pirated everything, did you end up buying a Nintendo Switch and buy the best games you loved?"
You fat fuck know what they would say and you're not gonna do it because you know it's obvious

>>715228227 (OP)
So if we download enough games we can make such a huge loss that we could take down a company? So when I download 10x Mario Kart Nintendo is losing 10x69$?

>>715232034
I work in the videogame industry. I pirate and support pirating, because whether the games I work on sell one copy or ten million copies, I'll still be earning minimum wage and probably getting axed at the end of the project (twice already.)
"Supporting" by buying the ultra mega deluxe edition won't make anyone you see on the credits richer, except the shareholders.

When was it that anti-piracy fags moved in anyway? It feels like it's been too long. God I miss 4chan.

>>715247618
Sorry, I'm afraid there's a core misunderstanding about the "burden of proof" concept. You need to provide the evidence that backs up your claims.

With this mis out of the way, I'll patiently wait for your tangible evidence if you're up for a debate.

>>715232034
Oh cool, so you support the removal of games as a service then?

>>715247395
Both can be true. I can be a thief and devs are wasting money on a piece of shit software.

>>715228734
>>715229690
What about the estimated losses from Steam sales and used game sales?

>>715247351
I don't know what it is with all the corporate bootlickers popping up these days

>>715228227 (OP)
the nintendo ninjas are crawling from under my doors wtf??

>>715247769
All anti piracy fags are MAGA retards

>>715248384
anti piracy fags are both boomers and libtard faggots yes

>>715244731
lol so they only seized the domains not the actual servers? Can't these just come back up with a new domain like today

>>715242251
>would sooner trust an outright communist
Yup. There it is. Sooner or later these people always show their true colors. Every time you have some retard bitching about Capitalism, they're always a commie.

>>715231748
>nooo you can't contradict my strawman!!
Cute projection

>>715230545
The eu did a study that showed piracy actually improved sales but they tried to bury it for obvious reasons

>>715228403
Enjoy prison ass rape, piratecuck.

>>715228227 (OP)
If buying isn't owning then piracy isn't theft

>>715244731
>domain only
So these are Russian pirate sites or something?

>>715249946
This is cope and you know it you fucking nigger stealing theif

>>715247395
I will never buy a game with denuvo so they will not get my money even if I can't pirate it, that kind of fomo only works on retards

>>715250402
Deal with it saar

>>715250487
>theif has the gal to call anyone else brown
No white man would ever steal shit jamal

>>715230195
You would not copy a car

>>715247395
I don't buy games that use Denuvo, simple as.
Release games I'm interested in without Denuvo, and I give you my money.

>>715230703
>buy an apple tree
>plant it, tend to it, care for it
>eventually produces apples
>whycan'tiholdalltheseapples.jpg
>get some crates
>fill with excess apples
>put out front for anyone to take for free
>nearby multi-million/billion corporation to Government/FBI that I'm stealing sales away from them
>uses wealth and power I'll never have in 10 lifetimes to shut me down
>this is fine according to (You)
Fuck you.

>>715228227 (OP)
>literal pedo island visited by the worlds elites: I sleep
>romsite for downloading nintendo switch video games: REAL SHIT????

The FBI is a joke lmfao what the fuck, how can they think this is good optics

>>715230703
wrong.
the majority of people pirate games because they cannot afford them. they won't suddenly be able to afford them if they no longer have an option to pirate it.
piracy, if anything, has a positive impact on sales as it contributes to outreach. when more people are able to access and play a game, more people will hear about it, and those who can afford it will buy it.