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crts suck

crt rules

That clarity is pointless when it's still limited by only showing 60 images a second

>>715237673 (OP)
Boomer GODS!

>>715239361
That makes absolutely no sense.

if you need a zoomed in photo to tell the difference it's not worth it

looks fine on my lcd

>>715239623
Same. Is OP trolling?

>>715237673 (OP)
What the hell is that pattern on the crt? It looks noting like a phosphor grid more like a overlayed cloth pattern.

>>715239661
PC CRTs and CRT TVs were different

>>715237673 (OP)
That's what backlight strobing technology on LCDs is still trying to solve. Nvidia's pulsar modules being the latest technology. But considering most of this board shills for OLED monitors they're stuck with shitty blackframe insertion. Maybe simulating the beams on CRTs might work out for oleds, but they need to get to 480hz for that to be just enough. Probably 1000hz is the more realistic point.

>>715239656
Take a photo of your screen not a screenahot

>>715239826
Except you can see individual phosphor cells in your examples while in OP it looks like cloth stitching pattern.

>>715239826
CRTs don't look like that. That's just a filter and a bad one

>>715239979
>>715239942
>CRTs don't look like that

>>715239938
???

>>715239521
Having instant strobing response times means fuck all when you're only seeing new images every 16ms
That instant response time is wasted and not perceptible, it'll still look like shit to a screen nut because it's 60hz

>>715240106
NOOOOO THIS DOESN'T FIT MY NARRATIVE

>>715240223
>Having instant strobing response times means fuck all when you're only seeing new images every 16ms
Easy to fix

>>715240505
>Activate Windows

>>715237673 (OP)
H-hayai!

>>715240505
even best case scenario you're still not getting 240hz of an entry level oled and you have to crush your resolution to absolute shit

>>715239361
CRTs can go above 60Hz you stupid zoomie. I've played at 85 all the time and you can go as high as 100 on some depending on resolution.

>>715237673 (OP)
where do I even get a crt these days anyway, I gave my last one away like 3 house-moves ago

>>715237673 (OP)
backwards

I use oled.

>>715241694
>colorshift and burnin within one year

>>715241606
read the post above yours

>>715241807
Copium, seethe lcd cuck. *sips drink and spits it at you*

>motion blur in front of the space ship
OP... are you a time traveler?

>>715237673 (OP)
>>715239623
>>715239656
>>715239361
>>715240106
>>715241694

Better to use the map version. If you can't read the text on the map your display is inferior to CRT

https://www.testufo.com/testufo.com#photo=toronto-map.png&pps=1440

>have to buy a new monitor
>have fuck all clue what to get
Jesus chirst, why is this shit so needlessly complicated. Is the burn in really that much of a risk still?

>>715242138
yes. Get a mini led

>>715242138
no, it's not
just take the basic precautions, set your screen timeout low, lower the screen brightness and get some proper light blockage for your gaming room with some dark curtains
oled in the wild burns in because it's old and it shows the same picture for hours at max brightness
if you're still worried get some 240hz fast ips, that's second best

>>715242287
If I have to babysit my monitor I don't want it.

>>715242505
>babysit
it takes 10 seconds to change the screen timeout permanently
it takes 10 seconds to lower the brightness permanently
it takes at most 10 minutes to install the curtains

>>715242287
windows screen timeout is a bit sketchy. Once came home and saw my oled was on and probably had been for over 10 hours just showing my desktop. Checked it with a fullscreen solid color and yea there was a lot of small burn in. The screen refresh thing cleaned it up for the most part thankfully and the burn in that is left is hard to notice.

>>715241694
VRR flicker makes OLED crap for gsync or freesync. Response times are good if you get a decent panel but they're bad for variable refresh rate adaptive sync because of an inherent flaw in the technology.

>>715242587
Why do you lower brightness? On my LG max brightness already feels very low compared to my previous monitors. Genuinely curious btw

>>715242972
because it makes burn in more likely obviously
a darker screen in a darker room is the same as a bright screen in a bright room

>>715242138
I cannot verify whether burn in is still a problem on OLEDs. But what i can tell you that if you use a monitor with Gsync you will eventually run into a scenario where you'll notice VRR flicker. /v/ never speaks about it because there are marketing departments posting on here trying to push people towards buying OLED monitors without mentioning such a fatal flaw, that is not present on LCDs or even the FALD equivalents in Mini LEDs.
Consolefags don't notice it because they're blind.

>>715243617
VRR flicker is reason enough to stay away from OLEDs. Anyone who buys an OLED is just a paying beta tester.

>>715242138
my monitors were supposedly prone to burn in (but not oled), i've been using them for 10 years, very minor burns around the edges that are barely noticeable and go away as the monitor warms up for the day

my desktop background is solid color -> black, i have no desktop icons, every piece of software i run i use a dark theme, and my taskbar i run auto-hidden then use translucent taskbar on top to remove the final pixel

takes a few minutes to set up a new pc like that, but it def works in my experience at least, my previous monitors before these were burned to fuck because i had all these bright desktop backgrounds i'd leave them idling on for hours

>>715243617
Damn, i had no clue this is a thing. Maybe im better of just getting an ips, feels like oled comes with too many cons, despite the amazing look

>>715243617
>vrr
just run it at max or change the refresh manually who cares

>>715242906
thankfully i dont ever use those, so i can just enjoy the benefits of my absolutely gorgeous display thats infinitely more convenient than any CRT ever was in its prime, and use BFI for any older games

>>715244508
The only benefit of oled is the contrast but to take full advantage of that you need a "perfect" room. If you are in a normal room were you can't or don't want to do light control all the time, and oled makes no sense. you just get a less bright display that costs more for no reason.

>>715242138
I'm in the same boat, I've already decided to get a ips 1440p panel. No idea what model is any good though.

>>715244592
>don't use a feature you paid for
The endless amount of free shilling the oled manufacturer's get. It is quite something to see.

>>715244763
and also the high refresh rates with response times better than even fast TNs that are capped at 500hz without ghosting
>165hz is wasted on non oled, they just can't pull off the response times

>>715244763
christ, what a retarded post. you've never owned an OLED display clearly, it doesn't take a "perfect" room, it maybe just takes having some blinds
>>715244508
you probably are better off getting an IPS if the only research you were ever doing was what people are saying in /v/ threads, don't waste your parents money on something expensive that you cant even bother to do any reading about

>>715244870
>>715243924
>>715244763
>>715244870
same stupid faggot whos obsessed with VRR
if your computer cant run games at consistent framerates then you should probably focus on that before spending ~$500 on a monitor, fucking christ

>>715244870
>>don't use a feature you paid for
you mean the big hertz numbers? you paid for that moreso than having some gay setting
just cap framerates to 60 or 120 if you're so bothered

>>715244871
very few games run stable at 500fps, even 240fps i a hard no for most relevant games.
Id rather just get a bright LCD with good strobing features like an ULMB2 monitor and enjoy perfect motion at 60 and 120fps.

>>715244956
>>715244960
again why do you defend oled companies like its a console war? You really don't mind buying a broken product do you.

>>715245039
that's your call of course but you're talking about a difference in motion so insignificant that 99% of people will never be able to even tell. if you're autistic enough to the point where you need "perfect" motion that badly you probably have something actually wrong with your eyes

>>715245121
why do you deflect to some vague idea of "defending oled companies" instead of just engaging with the point? please actually neck yourself, people like you are so insufferable

>>715244508
>Damn, i had no clue this is a thing
And that's a real problem because we have a lot of 'professional' reviewers online who have never acknowledged it, it's easier to go unnoticed for the tv focused section because they're more multipurpose than gaming. Rtings is the only one who put out a video on it, and i think even they downplay the severity of the issue. But at least they started including a testing bench for it on their site. But what's more important is that there are PC hardware enthusiast channels that never mention it in reviews, don't have any test benches or anything. It's like it doesn't exist if you were to look at any popular channel. Hardware Unboxed/Monitors unboxed has never done a video on it and I'm sure he helped move many monitors with his shilling considering he did with all of those OLED burn in test videos (the shameless motherfucker wears OLED t shirts in videos)

>>715245039
>perfect motion
>at 60 and 120 fps
it's not perfect because the framerates are low
response times are completely irrelevant beyond refresh rate compliance

>>715245208
samefag schizo melting down that nobody gives a fuck about this very miniscule problem lmfao
the
>(the shameless motherfucker wears OLED t shirts in videos)
the seethe in this statement alone is so genuinely hilarious, wtf has the internet done to peoples brains where an "oled t-shirt" manages to piss someone off

>>715245198
you are defending a purchase you regret but because it was so expensive you come here and evangelize in order to ease the pain.

>>715241694
on a phone sure
not on a monitor yet though. i don't trust myself and the tech for that

>>715245414
>deflecting again
whats your origin story anon? did your ex leave and take your OLED or some shit? what causes this much anger at the brand? it cant be healthy

>>715245414
>expensive
$1k for something that will last you at least half a decade that you use every single day is expensive?

>>715245227
hitting 1ms pixel visibility time at the chosen framerate is the most important thing a monitor can do.

>>715245383
It's a real problem that should have a disclaimer and testing scenario for reviews of OLED monitors. If you don't think it should be talked about then you're covering up a flawed product. It's more unacceptable that it's not happening for gaming monitors rather than it is with TVs.

>>715245552
1k for a broken product. The marketing business truly won.

>>715245565
>It's a real problem
it's really not and thats why no one gives a fuck about it enough to even mention it in reviews
the consumer sentiment would rapidly shift like it did on plasma if it was a real problem, but, it hasn't, people still very much want oleds, in spite of 1% of users that are kind of annoyed about it

>>715244881
NTA. I have an OLED. I bought it the other day because I liked the idea of high contrast. I had no idea you needed a pitch black room. I literally do have blinds in my room, there is no room that has ever existed in the last 100 years that does not have curtains or blinds. Light still gets through, enough light to ambiently illuminate the room and I can see my whole face and the wall behind me all day until around 9pm. I'll enjoy it more in the winter I guess. Your crippled eyesight does not make it less of a problem for normal people.

>>715245737
>NTA
yeah, sure
>I have an OLED
doubt it
>I had no idea you needed a pitch black room.
you dont
>and I can see my whole face and the wall behind me all day until around 9pm.
no, you cant, because you probably dont have an oled at all. post a picture of it and state the brand if you do.

>>715245737
Had the same issue with my LG C2 OLED TV. It was not very usable, especially in the summer months having to wait for sundown to get the full effect. And no I don't want to turn my living room into a dark cave every time I want to watch TV. Now I am back to a mini led TV and that thing can hit 1600nits full screen with ease. the C2 for reference struggle to hit 160nits full screen and only got dimer with age.

>>715245737
>>715245908
>>715245208
>still the same exact fag writing fan fiction
seriously wtf causes this kind of mental illness? what could happen to someone for them to seethe this hard over a type of fucking panel technology that's going to be replaced a decade from now anyways?

>>715245724
>it's really not and thats why no one gives a fuck about it
Until they inevitably notice it that is. But that's when the buyers remorse subtly starts to kick in, so they just ask the zealouts on /r/OLED about what to do with their monitor and they kindly inform them to turn off Gsync. Despite the fact that the monitor that was sold to them was listed as gsync compatible. People fall into the trap, don't know what to do and accept defeat.

>>715245835
>all of what you said is untrue because i said so
Fair enough. How about you post a picture of your eyes first to prove you don't use glasses then I'll post all that stuff. If you don't have 20/20 vision then your opinion is not valid in this discussion.

>>715246272
yeah thats what i thought, you absolutely dont have an OLED lmao. no one will take your retarded opinion seriously.

>>715246340
>>715246340
yeah that's what i thought, you absolutely do wear glasses and your vision is impaired which is why i'm right.

see how easy that is?

>>715245908
>LG C2 OLED TV
This was a particularly bad choice for you to lie about, because I actually specifically have this TV and it's downstairs next to a sliding door that the sun shines through for me all day, and I've never even once had any light-related issues in spite of that.

>>715245908
>160nits full screen
This is trolling right?

>>715246397
shouldve asked me for proof first, but since i asked first everyone agrees you have to post first, sorry :/

>>715237673 (OP)
I don't understand how fucking 50's technology can be faster than fucking 2020 technology.
Why the fuck can't they precisely replicate the way CRT's drew pixels across the screen with our supposed highly advanced technology???

>>715237673 (OP)
Who is this UFO guy and why does no one seem to be concerned about the aliens among us?

>>715246428
Obviously. This retard appears in every thread that mentions OLED in any capacity to sperg out about VRR flicker and brightness.

>>715246428
No, OLED's absolutely cannot get bright fullscreen or they will literally melt themselves.
All OLED's have extremely aggressive ABL and pretty much ruins HDR gaming.
Imagine you are staring at a bright light in the distance that's glowing at 1000 nits, then as you walk towards it and it fills more than 50% of your screen the entire thing dims to 200 nits, completely ruining your immersion.

>>715246481
I called you out first for being a speccy cripple so the onus is upon you to prove otherwise regardless of whether or not I asked you to.

>>715246415
brother, the TV does not get very bright it is a factually correct statement. If you need data look it up on rtings. It says 178nits Sustained 100% Window. That is not bright enough to be usable in a well lit living room. In the dark it was obviously fine.

>>715246428
You can go to RTINGS and pull up any OLED review and scroll to the peak brightness measurements to confirm it.

This alien nigga makes anons seethe because their $2000 monitors look worse than ancient technology

>>715246617
unfortunately i asked first + im white which means i get privilege in choosing who has to provide proof first, which is you. ;/

>>715246017
First of all your replies were to the wrong people. So if someone else is complaining about an OLED then it's likely their own story.
>seriously wtf causes this kind of mental illness?
Secondly, I just saved an anon money on something that i told him was going to be a problem and suddenly I'm schizophrenic? the reality is that what i mentioned is a marketers department nightmare and they cannot ever spin it, so it's best not to acknowledge it. It's best to pretend it's minuscule among gamers who care about the quality of the image on their screens. It's just shocking that it's coming from trusted reviewers online who popularized the oled shilling on /v/ in the first place. The Youtube tech tubers saying stuff like 'why buy an expensive graphics card or CPU if your monitor is not liek an OLED?' is what started this whole trend of getting people to beta test something that still needs to be ironed out. If it's even possible to iron it out that is.

>>715246428
>>715246564
LG C2 OLED is rated at around 180nits full screen brightness. It can reach 800 in a 10% window but ABL will kick in pretty fast

>>715237673 (OP)
the only crts that display a progressive image like that are edtv's with shitty input lag.

>>715246595
fucking hate ABL so much. Anyone know if it can easily be turned off? I know this will kill the display faster but I really don't care

>>715246920
ABL cannot be defeated, its hard coded into the panel

>>715242078

>>715247207
if this looks like a map to you anon I don't know what to say.

>>715242906
>inherent flaw in the technology.
qrd?

>>715240106
Conveniently not showing the pixel speed setting. Are you peddling still images of the UFO?

>>715237673 (OP)
now lets compare text readability

>>715247563
>qrd?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_ZMmMWi_yA

I will point out that I've experienced flicker in less drastic scenarios that Rtings presented here, fluctuations that were minor. But this will explain it in the most simple terms.

>>715237673 (OP)
Ok, fair enough point OP. My monitor is 32". Do you know how fuckhuge and heavy a 32" CRT monitor would be? No to mention that I'm not sure if a concave-curved CRT monitor is even possible.

Any ipsbros in here? Is the shit just dead?