Thread 715269954

Today i learned theres a popular mod which requires 600GB to install.

>>715269954 (OP)
storage is cheap

>>715269954 (OP)
Any thoughts on "LoreRim" besides the space issue?

>>715269954 (OP)
Qrd? I have never heard of this before

>>715270731
>>715270821
probably the best modlist i've used.

All the others have too much shit that feels out of place etc whereas Lorerim focused more on stability/keeping it lore friendly with its additions. The main issue you'll have will be fully dependent on if you like Requiem. If you don't, the only other modlists worthwhile are:
>the basic ones that just install all of the mandatory mods to save you time
>making your own

Lorerim suited me for one reason. I'm finally able to play Skyrim instead of spending days modding it only to run into a conflict mid playthrough and just end up dropping it entirely. Also, Requiem is kino

>>715269954 (OP)
That's not even the biggest one around
>>715270731
It uses Requiem and a bunch of survival mods so the early levels are retardedly hard, you need to be like level 25+ just to survive bleak falls barrow

>>715269954 (OP)
>40 gb page file
I wish computers weren't made for lobotomized retarded fucking faggots.

I wanna download Lorerim but I need to buy a new SSD. Seems a bit too much though and I already like my current mod list as is

WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT IF YOU'RE STILL JUST PLAYING SKYRIM IN THE END HOLY SHIT
the same garbage quests and fundamental game feel, the same world and dungeons
you can only put so much makeup on it, it's not something like Mount and Blade with a ton of replayability
I just don't get it

>>715272475
>YOU'RE STILL JUST PLAYING SKYRIM
its literally completely different game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aopc64iVehU

>>715270731
The goal of modding is to get as many to work together as you can.
These modpacks are just epeen measuring sticks.
There is no artistic vision or game play tweaks behind it. It is simply more is better because it is more.

Nobody even plays these things. At the absolute max 1/10th of 1% of the entire Skyrim player base is currently using one.
That is is everyone is playing the same one.

>>715269954 (OP)
That's not a mod that's just a billion mods packaged.

is lorerim+booba possible or is it a nightmare to edit

>>715272728
no, that's still just skyrim with souls combat stapled on

>>715272728
if you add stolen dark souls animations to skyrim and it still would play like skyrim

>>715272728
holy dogshit

>>715269954 (OP)
Domain takes like 1.3tb with the downloads.

>>715271135
Requiem is pure autism, just like Frostfall
>no dude it's so immersive, i get to instantly die to some random mummified nords until I'm level 30! and then arbitrarily some enemies are much much weaker so i instantly steamroll them if i don't find the area early in the game!
>bro I walked around outside for 5 minutes and now I'm dying of hypothermia even though i can conjure flames with my hands at any time i want, isn't this fun??
Autistic tedium, fuck off

>>715273643
Shitty taste in games explains the popularity of mods.

>>715273281
fromsoft recycles all their animation in every game and yet ds1play completely different than ds2 and one is beloved and other is putrid garbage

>>715269954 (OP)
Tempus Maledictum is better

>>715273930
outside of fighting games it's impossible to market the quality of the hitboxes, they are good but just aren't mentioned at all in marketing material and are one of the reasons people like these games

>>715272728
May try it if I can add other mods and it's not DS parryslop faggotry, want to throw in that gore mod and a fuckton of magic mods, love me some extensive magic.
>Void magic
>Anti-magic
>Storm magic
>Extra magic shouts
And so on.

>>715271195
>struggling at bleakfalls at 25+
Literal skill issue.

Can be done at 15 with most builds and recommended is actually 20 (recommended factoring in the biggest noobs)

>>715274489
>builds
lol zoomer

>>715273643
>dying to draugrs
>ever
Lmfao.

Just say you've not used it. Draugyrs are free as fuck, the only issue is their shouts. You should be clearing draugyr crypts (that don't include Dragon Priests) before level 10.

No matter how many mods you install it still is base Skyrim with shitty Skyrim story with absolutely no roleplaying potential whatsoever, so who cares really?

There's nothing gayer than survival mods or shitty mods that claim to be "lore friendly" and then have you wear warm clothing as a Nord, when it's canon they literally run around half naked in the coldest areas of Skyrim and had 100% frost resistance in Morrowind because for them Skyrim is like Florida.

>>715270731
All these mods that add third person """souls""" combat somehow manage to be more jank than vanilla, they make the game feel like some shitty third worlder's Unity game on F95. And the actual dungeons are not designed for it at all so you get constant fucky shit whenever there's slopes/stairs or narrow hallways. Terrible.

>>715272475
>>715275074
the thing is most people trapped in the modding loop never actually bother doing a full, genuine playthrough of skyrim and so never realize the futility of it
i got trapped in the loop until i committed to "a dragonborna fate" with a bunch of extra stuff on top, armors, body slide etc.
did most of the content basically (even though things got boring quick)
and i realized it was more engaging making a hypothetical good game, rather than actually experiencing the end product

>>715275074
>no roleplaying potential
how many 14 year old singleplayer games still have 25k+ people playing it on steam daily?

>make sure you have anniversary edition
yeah im good

>>715273643
This. I went down the autism path for a while then I realized todd was right. If it doesn't work properly cut it, if it wastes your time - cut it. Skyrim is most enjoyable as an immersive power fantasy.

>>715275503
>the actual dungeons are not designed for it
thank you holy shit
these showcases always do it in a forest or open plain, but 90% of the games encounters, ai, and level design are not compatible with this style of gameplay at ALL
even something as innocuous as precision gets annoying because the game likes to connect dungeon segments with narrow hallways

>>715275503
>>715272905
this. The only good reason to use mods is for nsfw/SOME quest/followers. Even then it loses its appeal after some time somewhat because you realize that it's impeding the original feel and vision of the game. The overhaul shit is so cringe and out of place.

>>715275503
>casting flame spells does nothing to warm you up
survival is a non issue in tamriel when you can conjure fire at will and eat infinite fish, survival mods are just mental in general.

>>715275627
a lot of flies eat shit, that doesn't mean it's good

>>715275908
I think the temperature part is fine so you get an excuse to use different armor sets rather than your default 100% of the time
Food and sleep is objectively cancer

>>715275931
>moving goalposts
great to know we have mr knows best, please share with us list of games we are allowed to like

>>715273930
that's a bit harsh, I wouldn't call ds1 putrid garbage...

>>715269954 (OP)
The people who still play Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim don't play anything else and therefore don't need their harddrive space
This is perfectly fine for those people.

>>715275823
>precision gets annoying
Precision is shit, honestly. I breaks a lot of shit that isnt very noticeable like dragon riding. Then it fucks the weapon balance completely. Greatsword are king, daggers can't even hit unless you extend the hitbox which invalidates the whole point of the mod.

The only good combat mods are the ones that make every die faster including the player, so you get through it faster. Slapping a bandit leader for 5 minutes will never be fun.

>>715276352
just because a ton of retards still play skyrim doesnt mean it has roleplaying potential
there, i explained the metaphor to your dumb ass

>>715276282
I like sleep to level up. Gives me an excuse to use as tavern and deal with drunken rapists.

>>715276282
food can be implemented well if it also grants buffs/effects (and not just +2.5% stamina Regen or whatever), and it gives a reason to visit inns/cook past roleplaying
sleep is good too when its tied to leveling up, and it's also another reason to go to inns, or buy travel supplies
plus it's nice taking a breather in dungeons with found bedrolls

>>715269954 (OP)
>600 GB
I mod skyrim only for the rape mods. Everything else is optional.

>watch a video on LoreRim
>dude talks about buzzwords like "Dark Souls" and "gotta git gud"
All i needed to know it's shit. What is it with Skyrim mod trannies and turning the game into some shitty frankenstein monster of Korean MMO x Soulsslop with janky dodges and rolling?

>>715276656
I mean, it’s a better indicator than your opinion, which has zero arguments or evidence beyond you just disliking the game.

>>715276625
the problem I had with precision is there's no comprehensive animation mod for it that isn't meant to be used with dark souls shit
the Skyrim animations are not designed for real hitboxes, nor is the character controller in general

>make everything die faster
eh these are always a crapshoot because of how retarded scaling gets, it's never fun to die in one shot from an arrow out of nowhere, and then at that point you're just cheesing ai to not die immediately

>>715276962
You already have a reason to go to inns, to meet people and quest givers since nearly everyone's schedules take them there at some point
The food and sleep is busywork that isn't necessary

>>715272728
>soulslop combat with 500 gb of shitty graphics mods on top
You're right, it's a completely different game and vanilla Skyrim is lightyears ahead of what you just showed us

>>715277130
it's not an opinion I'm stating a fact
the amount of people playing Skyrim is no indication of its roleplaying potential or really anything specific other than "people play Skyrim still"

>>715277256
>busywork that isn't necessary
by this metric having to talk to NPCs to get quests is busywork
shit having to walk to the objectives is busywork
it sounds like you want less of a roleplaying game and more of a hack and slash

>>715277374
>a fact

>>715272728
That ENB is garbage. It makes the game look like a Korean MMO.

>>715277523
No yeah, talking to NPCs with different things to say is totally the same thing as ritualistically taking a menu break to down a cheese wheel, every single day.

>>715277562
please, demonstrate how player count alone is representative of skyrims roleplay potential

>>715277818
npcs with the same voices and idle chatter, giving the same radiant quests/fetch quests
also yes no shit if you just stock 100 cheese wheels to do the bare minimum it's going to be stupid

>>715278185
>npcs with the same voices and idle chatter, giving the same radiant quests/fetch quests
Now who's the one downplaying the experience? Maybe YOU'd prefer the hack and slash to roleplaying, cockgobbler.

>>715277885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)

The actual fact is there are 25k+ players playing this singleplayer game daily 14 years after release while you have 0 arguments supporting your claim besides your feelings.

>>715275074
>no roleplaying potential
Uhm, no? You have a choice of whether to engage in a quest or questline or no.
Recently i decided to roll a vanilla char on skyrim AE. I am lvl 80, barely did any quests and am just running around mining ore, transmuting iron to gold, making jewelery, making potions and stuff because i own a farm and i have no intention whatsoever to do anything beyond that. My char is a happy farmer.

715278561
holy shit you're retarded, no more (You)s for (You)

I think that the ultra hyper high res texture part of Skyrim modding is outta control.

>>715278486
my nigga you fail to see your hypocrisy
if youre willing to engage with the cardboard npcs on that level then you're capable of engaging with a hunger mechanic past eating raw ingredients

>>715270731
i use GTS. lorerim looked autistic in a bad way.

>>715276985
Because they cannot mod souls games. Trust me on this, if Elden Ring was moddable, they would mod it and abandon skyrim altogether. Same with Cabatoody and Barffield and Fallout 4 - if those two could be modded, all those sluts and tactikewl gunzz would disappear. Some people just use Skyrim and Fallout 4 as vectors - they dont give a shit about those games and what they can actually do with them.

>>715273643
Cloaks are cool tho

>>715279076
you dont understand i need EVERY texture to be 4k regardless of texel density or model size
if i cant count the wrinkles on every npcs asshole i cant immerse myself

>>715269954 (OP)
How much of this is oversized textures and models with too many polygons?

>>715269954 (OP)
>>make sure to have a 40gb pagefile
*turns off pagefile*
*laughs in 64gb ram*

>>715272475
Isn't there a mod that uses AI to make the NPCs dynamically respond to dialogue? That alone changes the game in a huge way. I might reinstall Skyrim just to give it a shot.

>>715280093
its novel and funny but doesn't really change anything "in a huge way", especially since the ai voices are still kinda rough and have a hard time emoting
it is an interesting tech demo though, commoner NPC chatter is always one of the first things to stick out like a sore thumb in rpgs

>>715272728
oh look another youtuber to download an opinion from.

>YOU MUST PLAY THIS MOD PACK!!!!!
curate your own mods or dont play them at all. if its too hard to figure out how you want to tailor the game then modding isnt for you and you are part of the crowd whos making it worse.

>>715272728
>skipping to a random part of the video
>"btw you can't manually reload saves during gameplay because the modlist breaks somehow"
>"also this isn't the modlist fault, this is your fault"
Yeah, it's the player's fault for downloading a 600GB modlist.
And respawn mods are stupid, they never take scripted dungeon events into consideration.

>>715269954 (OP)
None of the graphics and souls combat matters. What matters are cooking (actual food with actual normal effects and not generic "restores 1 pt of health"), crafting (lockpicks, torches, arrows, jars, silverware, jewelery, clothing, etc), alchemy (extra effects and ingredients), enchanting (no restrictions and more effects), no level-scaling, proper hand-placed loot, variety of loot that is both lore-friendly and one that appeared in previous games, quest options (so you can kill that high elf retard in college of winterhold and thus dont have to deal with that stupid "crisis", or you can kill Maven Blackbriar and her whole family and thus shit on thieves guild, or kill Ulfric or Tulius the first time you meet them and thus make Civil War end right there and then), more spells and better magic, and better perks (or even better - attributes and skill and no perks - just like in Morrowind).

If that mod list doesnt do those above - its shit, plain and simple. Also
>modlist
How much of a fucking subhuman degenerate do you need to be to want that? You go download mods you like, learn what-is-what regarding modding, mod installation and troubleshooting, and then make your own stuff and play the game. Fucking braindead zoombies.

>>715279090
NPCs have things to say to me. Their own problems, however shallow. It is nowhere near comparable to having fucking lunch.
I have lunch every day. You know what I don't do every day? Go to rural locations for mercenary work. Grope the tavern wenches. Decapitate a bandit lord with a zweihander.

>>715281697
does your lunch give you buffs and take specific, maybe rare ingredients from the wilds or exotic locales

>>715282074
I'm buff enough, thanks. I didn't come to metagame buffs like I logged on to prepare for raid night like an MMO stooge.
My character does not share my taste buds so I get no reward from exotic foods, just a timer that says "oh, fun has to pause now!"

>>715282248
again my nigga... you fail to grasp the crux of the argument...
npcs going blah blah blah for your next Epic Hack N Slash Kill Quest and taking one minute to eat for buffs preparation for your Epic Quest are both sides on the same flavor coin
they both get in the way of your exhilarating Skyrim combat

>>715272728
>You can do anything you want!
>BTW if you save and load for any reason you break your playthrough entirely. Your fault btw

I just choose my own mods instead of getting packs. I don't like ENBs so I settle with community shaders and cathedral.

>>715282906
>playing skyrim for the combat
How long into the post chain did your posts shift from opinion to bait? Either way, never reply to me again. You are worse than a Skyrim NPC, you are a failed MMO reject who places importance on buffshit instead of interacting with a world and its people through ROLEPLAYING.

>>715283448
what is your obsession with mmos lmao
you realize skyrim has alchemy right?
do you just never interact with the games systems at all past "roleplaying" with the cardboard NPC and doing hecking epic decapitations on Bandit Lords
you can "roleplay" actually holding a conversation with these NPCs but you can't fathom eating for any reason other than "hunger bar go up"
you are such a retarded nigger

>>715283820
No, creating your epic build is not roleplaying. It is a puzzle piece you assembled that fits into the combat slot. If you have disinterest in interacting with the world in any way besides your own character stature you're not a fucking roleplayer. You're the karen dying her barbie doll's hair the same color as her own.

>>715284129
what the fuck are you even saying at this point?
no one has said anything about builds
what do barbie dolls have to do with any of this

>>715279286
You joke, but there are actually people who unironically think every texture needs to be 8K otherwise the immersion is ruined. Then they go cry when their potato rig implodes from loading 400GBs of sweaty peasant face wrinkles. Texel density? Optimization? Never heard of her. It's all about being able to see the individual fibers on a rat's butthole while blowing it up with 12 different ENBs layered like some grotesque visual parfait.

>>715284463
Every bit of your posts is about how food interacts better with the combat, through buffs. How would you describe this if not buildtism? You have no care for the world Skyrim at all. It's just a dollhouse for you. So why would I want to put up with your dogshit food timers impeding my own narrative experience?

what are some other packs that don't go to this extreme

>>715284631
bumping for this

>>715284627
holy shit I think you actually might be autistic
so ill put it bluntly
it's comical that you can't grasp the idea of hunger being more than a timer
one could be ROLEPLAYING THEIR CHARACTER EATING MEALS and it's made to be more than a timer by having it affect GAME MECHANICS

>>715285235
You don't give a shit about roleplaying. You've repeatedly downplayed the NPC's part in your experience. You have a doll that you parade around and feed, it's literally like a female child's pretend tea time with her stuffed animals.

>>715284623
its intoxicating once you realize you can make everything hi res if you want
but it's even better knowing that you really dont notice or give a shit about 90% of the games textures because it's either in motion or because you're only ever looking at characters that closely

>>715270731
Genuinely fucking boring, the only thing it has above all other list is that it’s stable and has traits
the requiem in this modpack feels casualized as fuck

>>715285373
why are you projecting your agp fantasies on here
anyways, you clearly have lost the plot and are fixated on "but you said the npcs are bad!!"
i hope they find a cure for your condition one day

>>715285731
You took an angle you couldn't defend as a roleplaying autist. Next time just say you like alarm clocks ringing out your feeding time, dog.

>>715285963
I don't understand your position. First you say you want to talk to NPCs, "however shallow" because they have their "their own problems" and "things to say". But when someone suggests an equally "shallow" method of roleplaying they want to play with Barbies and are MMO addicts? And they roleplay too much? Are you the aribiter of what's acceptable roleplay?

>>715277232
There was the one guy re-doing the first/third person animations around precision but he never finished and the greatsword set has fucked up hands.

>>715286715
>Greatsword animation mods are all twirly anime shit or give the character the fentanyl slouch
god dammit

>>715286715
Yea I had that for a bit but it was jankier than vanilla and affected difficulty too much
I wonder why people don't just edit the vanilla anims slightly

>>715286686
Yes, putting your figurine into a world only to do nothing with the latter is not roleplaying. I don't see how you could argue otherwise.