Very dated nowadays. Jak 1 and Sly 1 hold up better.

yep

>>715315079 (OP)
why video game tribalism

Pretty much

Definitely. The series didn't get good until RaC 2, which was excellent. RaC one is all neat ideas but none of it really lands.

>>715315079 (OP)
The lack of strafe forces the player to have the strategize about which weapon to use for each encounter. It adds an element of puzzle-solving to the combat that all the sequels lack. Strafing ruined this series.

>Ratchet 1 is the best
>Spyro 1 is the best
>Crash 1 is the best
I keep seeing these contrarians takes on /v/ when no one thought this back in the day

>>715315397
>10 hour game
>Very long
Game journos really do hate their jobs.

>>715315397
>Lack of inspiration works against fun factor
What the fuck is he talking about?

the first game is the best in the series

Ratchet 1 has got the best looking levels of the R&C trilogy.
This isn't an opinion, they literally put more effort into the backgrounds than in the sequels. In 2 and 3 there's a lotta levels where you can clearly see the horizon line and skybox meet, but in the first game that stuff is usually well covered by miles of extra detail.
Only thing outdated is the controls. The weapon variety is still fun.

>>715315079 (OP)
Ratchet 1 and Deadlocked are the best ones.

Sorry, Ratchet 1 has too much soul.

>>715315817
Art design in the 2nd game is better though. It has a soulful isolation that hits just right.

Ratchet 1 hasn't aged at all. People keep bitching about the lack of strafe but all strafing did was turn the combat into mindless strafe-jump spam for the rest of the series. In 1 thanks to the limited mobility you have to bring the right weapon for the job. And of course people who try using the Blaster all game end up eating shit. No other game in the series has you consider your arsenal like that beyond "what haven't I leveled up yet"?

Just another example of people thinking anything not """"""modernized"""""" is bad.

>Hey! You're thay robot guy, right?
>Actually I build robots. I myself am not actually a robot guy, per se
>nerd
Metropolis always feels great on a playthrough. If anyone thinks the game lacks inspiration must hate fun in general. The 1st has the best atmosphere, music, level design, and puzzles. The humor and controls may have improved (arguably) but every following game lost soul bit by bit. Deadlocked was like a shot in the arm before they started trying to fuck the corpse, and this coming from someone who enjoys the future saga despite the ridiculous plots and lame jokes.
>Rift apart
The franchise was better off dying with the lackluster movie and horrible "remake", and it really should've ended at Crack in Time (maybe Into the Nexus) before that. Hell, Deadlocked would've been a great ending.

>>715316783
>atmosphere, music, level design, and puzzles
I like all of these in 1 except the music (I know it suits the theme but I hate record scratching shit), but all are definitely better in 2 and 3.

The main problems with 1 are that the combat is clunky, the weapons are unsatisfying, and that the story makes Ratchet seem like a gormless cunt for no good reason.

>>715315079 (OP)
Nope, it's still a timeless classic, just replayed it earlier this year, and was surprised how well the combat holds up. The lack of strafing is not a limitation, it's a design choice. The game was never designed around strafing, and you actually have to get up close to enemies and weave in attacks, and the combat is much more challenging, frantic, and close-quarters as a result. Level design, humor, soundtrack, atmosphere, writing, pacing, weapon designs, combat, and difficulty curve are all top notch.

>>715315698
I just played Spyro for the first time in my life (I'm 36) and it's only likeable if you're the kind of autist to speedrun shit. Spyro 2 fixed every specific complaint I had with the first one like they read my mind.

>>715315397
>unlikable main character
asshole ratchet is entertaining

>>715316996
>The main problems with 1 are that the combat is clunky
Please... shut the fuck up.

Focusing more on action gameplay over shooter gameplay does not make it "clunky".

>Ratchet seem like a gormless cunt for no good reason.
He got pulled into the role as a savior of the galaxy that he never wanted, and Clank nearly got him killed due to his naivety. But "no good reason".... right...

All Ratchet and Clank games are good but 1 wins in the soul deptarment.

>>715316996
>UYA has better level design
>when its mainly corridors and multi-player levels
I love the game but 1 clearly has better levels. GC levels aren't bad, they just become pretty linear by the end (guessing due to time constraints like all games in this series).
The combat being clunky and the weapons being how they are are actually something I enjoy. It adds variety and like others have said, makes you think through things more than just blast with the biggest gun. And Ratchet had every reason to be a cunt.
>little robot crashes on his planet
>gets in wrangler in some save the universe mission
>nearly gets him killed by his childhood hero and neither saw it coming despite the signs
It makes sense, but I chalk a lot of it up to Ratchet being young and a loner up to that point.

>>715315698
I like Spyro 1 for the atmosphere, but 2 and 3 are just more fun to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjSH7psJXuU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q57LeVABGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8q0tO2kAZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxal2bK9EHk

>>715315079 (OP)
He Fucks Rivet

>playing RA
>get to the Rivet and question if I still want to play
>push on, get to the fucking annoying spider hacker
>push on, get to the fucking annoying Gary the monk (aka plumbers son because fuck you)
>push on still, get to the fucking annoying piss-colored female clank
Idk anons, it's just so fucking cringe. Emperor Nefarious just makes it even worse.

>>715317335
1 has the same style of gameplay, it's just worse at it. The movement doesn't work properly and the weapons are poor at working with the movement.
>He got pulled into the role as a savior of the galaxy that he never wanted
Oh yes because an important part of the hero's journey is complaining about the whole thing for 90% of the game. That character issue should've been overcome 2 or 3 planets in so that we can see more of Ratchet's personality shine.
>>715317550
Linearity is fine if the art direction is good (it is) and if it suits the story, which it does in 3 because Ratchet is part of a taskforce to go in on a specific military operation. In 1 he's bumming around looking for someone and in 2 he's lost in a foreign galaxy so it works thematically to have more open levels there.

>>715317319
Certainly better than whatever the fuck they were doing with the movie/moviegame

>>715315079 (OP)
Sly 1 is the worst of the trilogy by far.

>>715315698
>>715317572
Spyro 1 is my favourite for the amazing subtle worldbuilding, architecture, and dreamy atmosphere. 2 and 3 are great games but they're more explicit in what they do, with many more characters than stick around and a different society in every level rather than the dragon society.

>>715318163
LOMBAX TIDDIES

>>715318396
Idk, the theme of two space cops/detectives running and running down hallway-like areas nearly every planet seems hamfisted and a lame excuse. I hate hating on the games since I know so much more was planned for all of them and they did what they could in the time they had, but the fact that the only planets that feel like you actually explore are Nefarious' base (not even a planet), Daxx (mostly linear still), and the Obani Moons is depressing for our last adventure in Solana. Even Metropolis was linear in the first one and was made 10x as linear (and short) in this one.

I enjoyed Disruptor and the PS1 Spyro games more

>>715318396
Also, an unforgivable sin is no grind rails in UYA. They focused too much on shoving Qwark into the story with his fucking arcade games.

The only thing that is outdated is the gunplay. Everything else holds up EXTREMELY well. Playing it as a platformer with guns instead of a shooter with platforming makes it so much more enjoyable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kID6owNLmyQ
R&C soundtrack sure is something else.

I wish I could play Ratchet and Clank 1 with UYA's control scheme

>>715319616
>The only thing that is outdated is the gunplay
NO IT FUCKING ISN'T

>>715318396
>1 has the same style of gameplay, it's just worse at it.
No, it doesn't, you fucking moron. Strafing and weapon upgrades fundamentally change the core mechanics.

Each weapon has a specific niche, including the wrench (which is near useless in later games), and are far better balanced because you don't have to constantly keep every weapon fully upgraded to be viable. The game takes place at much closer range, where Ratchet's position and direction in real space actually matter and you must dodge enemies and try to weave attacks in between.

Compare that to the later games where you can just safely pick off enemies from a distance while strafing to avoid all attacks. There is a reason Ratchet 1 is the only game that had any semblance of challenge. Ratchet 1 feels closer to DMC or NG, except with a focus on more ranged attacks, while the sequels clearly put the focus on just showing off weapon effects rather than actually creating challenging encounters to overcome.

>Oh yes because an important part of the hero's journey is complaining about the whole thing for 90% of the game.
Oh shut the fuck up you retarded faggot. Not every narrative has to adhere exactly to the strict formulaic template, and it's not even anywhere near 90%, they are mad at each other for less than a quarter of the game.

Ratchet has a rocky relationship with Clank because they are strangers, he starts to warm up to him, before Clank keeps stringing him along and almost gets him killed, before they finally find common ground, overcome their differences, and become friends.

>>715315079 (OP)
I replayed it recently and had a great time. Sequels play much better, still.

>>715319996
Nah, that'd break too much. GC's control scheme would work perfectly though. Literally just an option for strafing that isn't Clank's hover would go a long way.

>>715320040
For most of the game I would agree, but the time of Veldin 2 I abuse the fuck outta of the visibomb launcher cause I don't wanna deal with the Blarg commandos.

>>715319616
It's an action game with guns. Compared to something like DMC1, Ratchet 1 controls like a fucking dream.

You can instantly tell anyone who calls Ratchet 1 "clunky" is a retarded zoomer who has never played any action prior to 2010 in their life. Action games used to actually have a strong focus on positioning and movement over lock-ons and magnetized attacks.

I love how everyone conveniently forgets that Captain Quark was trans when they praise the PS2 trilogy

>>715315698
Crash 2 > crash 1 > crash 3

>>715320239
Nigga, even the developers think the first game needed something more control wise and had to rush to make the clank hover feature for the semblance of a strafe control.

We can all agree collectively that the PS2 quadrilogy is the peak of the franchise, right?

>>715320462
the PS2 line up is so peak I have no fucking idea what people mean when they claim Crack in Time is the peak of the franchise. Personally, I liked Nexus more than CiT.

>>715315079 (OP)
I think you may be right anon. Even back then I remember how much of a massive improvement going commando was mechanically speaking. 1 however was conceptually better IMO with the world design and the weapon choices saving the game from obscurity.

>>715320281
retard

>>715320368
Those same "developers" are now embarrassed of their work on the R&C series and think the games and their humor were immature. Who gives a fuck about their opinions now? Cliffy B made a testosterine filled dudebro shooter then later turned into a cuck. Aonoma made one of the greatest games of all time in Majora's Mask, but felt embarrassed of it and considered it a failure.

They made a finished product that was greater than the sum of its parts. There was a perfect storm of passion, talent, and design decisions that made a masterpiece, regardless whether the developers can see or acknowledge that, now or in the future.

>>715320227
This is what I usually do, but last time I only blew up some and just used the devastator to save time. The visibomb is a life saver on Orxon though.
>>715320368
Eh, it's fine the way it is and even if the devs wanted it differently, it makes the gameplay better.
>>715320281
>superhero uses a disguise
>does this again in CiT
Qwark was shown to be a psychopathic idiot by this point. It fits.

>>715315079 (OP)
Ratchet 1 is still the best and most well-rounded game in the series. Every sequel just started vomiting out dozens of pointless guns that all feel the same. There's no real reason to use most of them, and the level design actually got worse, not better. They turned from semi-open exploratory maps into dumb arena corridors.
Jak 1 is literally just a mario 64 knockoff with dogshit backtracking. The only redeeming thing is that the island aesthetic is kinda cozy, but that’s it. It’s shallow as hell otherwise.
Sly is baby-tier. The whole series feels like it's made for toddlers. And the thing that pisses me off the most? You can’t invert the camera. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make left stick camera go right? Are Americans just brain-dead or something?

>>715320994
>Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make left stick camera go right? Are Americans just brain-dead or something?
Eh, I'll say that I can't do "normal" controls in a third person game anymore, it fucks with my head too much. Inverted while in first person perspective can go fuck itself.

>>715320921
>Angela? Is that your name? Ratchet was calling you something quite different
>What do you like to do for fun?
>Yeah she always seemed so innocent, well except for that one video...
>Allow me to demonstrate!
But yeah, im sure whatever "jokes" are in Spiderman 2 were hilarious like those.

>>715321114
Brainwashed retard.

>>715321386
Come on man, how is it brainwashed? I have a preference in third person games to use inverted controls both x and y because it feels natural to me, who the fuck are you to say that I'm a retard for it?

>>715315397
At this point, I'm convinced that games journalists are a subspecies of the Homo Sapiens.

>Game makes a slightly more edgy spinoff and is chasing trends according to the developers themselves
>Still manages to be a great experience
How did insomniac do it?

>>715320994
>Ratchet 1 is still the best and most well-rounded game in the series.

I agree. Even as a kid I did not enjoy any Ratchet game except for the first one. It was brilliant and every enemy should die in two wrench hits.

>>715320281
A man dressing up and pretending to be a woman was considered a joke. Especially when someone would fall for it.

>>715320281
Do... do zoomers not realize that crossdressing used to be a JOKE?

>>715320072
You're genuinely fucking brain damaged if you think RaC 1 is anything like DMC. Holy shit you might be the stupidest poster I've ever seen on this shitty board.
And Ratchet only stops being a cunt once he learns Drek's plan for Veldin which is towards the end of the game.

>>715320462
Obviously

>>715321665
Because they kept it full of jokes, especially from the announcer duo.
They didn't go full retard with edginess like Jak 2 did.

>>715315079 (OP)
I think it holds up really well, I like the platforming. The gradual deemphasis of movement in favour of gunplay with every entry hurt the series a bit, by the time gladiator came out there's a saminess to the gameplay that isn't ideal

>>715322151
Jak 2 was still full of jokes.
Nigga, your memory's horrible.

>>715320994
>Jak 1 is literally just a mario 64 knockoff with dogshit backtracking
What? Its a fully open interconnected world and I don't remember any backtracking.

>>715315698
people back in the day can be wrong, and in fact they often are about lots of topics

>>715321665
it's tied with going commando for me
I genuinely love everything about it, the galaxy, ratchet's armor design, the vehicles, seeing your score go up and everyone slowly respecting you, it being somewhat of a challenge on exterminator
also your combat bots are the best characters, ride or die kinda niggas

>>715322151
Jak 2 didnt go full edgy, in fact the humor in it is better than R&C, same with 3

>>715318257
RA just isn't a great R&C overall
>Weapons are forgettable and Insomniac relies too hard on bloating up the weapon pool by just copy-pasting too many old weapons instead of making the loadout be made of new ones
>Enemy variety is very bad with how often the nuNefarious enemies and that juggernaut miniboss are reused. Even the super rushed R&C3 has better enemy variety
>Clank sections suck, but I think they're always bad except for ACiT
>Music's forgettable, but that goes for the majority of the future games overall
>Nothing notably different gameplay-wise about Rivet, making her just a glorified model swap
The only real reason to play RA is just because you want to fuck Rivet, it's pretty low tier for me overall

>>715318551
Chill broham. Sly 1 is a top 10 platformer, 2 and 3 are better mechanically speaking but are worse level design wise.

>>715321665
They still kept the game true to the spirit of what makes R&C and used the opportunity of a new direction to experiment with a different gameplay style that's focused more on nothing but shooting

>>715321665
>How did insomniac do it?
1 through 3 increasingly put more focus on shooting over platforming, and Deadlocked dropped nearly all pretenses of keeping RC1s platformer to fully commit to the action.

I'm a day or two away from finishing a replay of the Sly trilogy. Should I go for replaying Ratchet or Jak next?

>>715322718
>worse level design wise.
Nigga what? Theyre better on all fronts. And Sly 1 is already a masterpiece

>>715319871
I always liked how R&C 1 OST had an "other worldly" flare to it. It elevates the already excellent atmosphere of the planets to a new level

>>715322979
I guess it depends what you want. A mostly solid throughline of gameplay ideas or constant jumps in core identity? R&C for the former, J&D for the latter.

>>715322979
Ratchet. I found Jak kind of boring. Also, your thoughts on Sly?

I've played both Jak & Daxter and Ratchet & Clank but I've never played Sly Cooper. It always looked gay as fuck to me.

>>715315397
i hate stupid dirty niggles

>>715322979
If you're in the mood for platforming then Jak
If you're in the mood for action then Ratchet

>>715320462
Easily. I would even go as far and say they were arguably the best platformers in the entirely of the 6th gen. What was the competition? Jak had to make a pivot mid series and ended up pleasing nobody, sly was good but ratchet did better sales wise and the other platformers like ty the tasmanian and crash fell flat

>>715323180
>It always looked gay as fuck to me.
Impossible for a franchise that has Carmelita Fox in it.

>>715323382
Figured you'd say as much. Fucking furry.

>>715323180
Ah yes Sly Cooper the gay game
For homosexuals

>>715323463
>Sly 4

>>715323463
>Furries are faggots
Yes. Almost exclusively.

>>715317060
Based.

>>715323551
>

>>715316501
>you have to bring the right weapon for the job.

>>715322007
>You're genuinely fucking brain damaged if you think RaC 1 is anything like DMC
That's probably why you struggled so much and found it clunky, you dumbfuck retard. You tried to play it like a shooter.

It's blatantly obvious you're a stupid fucking zoomer whose never played any PS2 era action games though. Just stick to your moviegames next time subhuman

Sly > Jak >>> Ratchet.

>>715323842
Why the dislike of Ratchet?

>>715323053
1 was much easier to 100% than I remembered. The bottles didn't take much looking to find and in almost every level I picked them up naturally on the first pass. Fuck all the mini game levels.
2 felt a little rushed, I've always thought there should have been more done with Neyla as a criminal before her becoming Clock-la.
3 is peak for me. As numerous as the mini games are they're all enjoyable and I like how each character plays distinctly. Biggest complaint is that the 3D is pointless.

>>715322684
Agree with everything. I was watching the trailer when it "premiered" and I remember getting disappointed immediately the minute I saw her. Everything was looking alright to me up until that point, and I was hyped after no new game in years. I knew I'd hate her character.
>>715321665
By having two heroes actually deep in shit and fighting for their lives instead of just the galaxy. And by actually having one of their friends get hurt by getting shot. Its sad they never showed Big Al in the Future saga with his new body. They mention him in Tools and he has a few commercials in CiT so it's lame they couldn't put him somewhere considering how important he became.

>>715323453
By 2030 everybody will be a furry just like today everybody is a weeb. Your kind will go extinct along with the boomers.

>>715323842
Sly had the best voice acting and sound design out the big 3. Amazing how much of difference that can make to the game experience

>>715326080
The bass notes when sneaking around will always live in my head.

>>715315698
No one actually thinks Crash 1 is better than Crash 2

>>715315817
Music was best there too. Weapons were cool but some are just eh like the visibomb
>>715316091
I prefer 2 to 1 just barely but I don't know if I'd say 2's art design is better. I just like the mix of exploration and combat 2 has, weak endgame balance and all

>>715317572
2 is my favorite of the spyro trilogy, love the environment and levels and actually like the minigames
1 has a unique feel from the relative lack of npcs, kinda lonely in a somber way while still being colorful and happy
3 is pretty eh to me

>>715324143
It's just kinda there. I enjoyed the platforming more in the other games and the shooting in TPS games. They're competent games, but nothing I'd be interested in revisiting unlike the first Sly game which is pretty good.

>>715318257
>Push on through the worst arena in the series with Zurkon Jr narrating (and you can only play as Rivet)
>Push on through the forced drama between girl ratchet and yellow clank
>Push on through the linear chase level that ends with Rivet flaunting her robot arm saying how it's ok to be broken or some gay shit
>Push on through Happy Together playing when Ratchet and Clank reunite in a really fucking weird scene
>Push on through the pirate shanty
Buddy it just gets worse

>>715318163
He Fucks Angela

>>715326265
Same, that and the clue bottle SFX are forever etched into my brain

>>715320281
I find 3 the weakest of the trilogy, not bad at all but the exploration and gadgets suffered and the multiplayer levels taking up single player was unfortunate
but 3 really was the funniest of the trilogy
qwark's crayon plans make me laugh every time

>>715320994
>jak 1 backtracking
you haven't played the game, there is literally 0 backtracking whatsoever
I've 100% the game in single sittings on multiple occasions, if you get everything in a level from the get go, you never have to go back ever

>>715326578
whatever happened to her?

Nefarious wank is getting old.

>>715326578
>Have a game with a female lombax, a pretty fun one at that.
>Make the future trilogy with the idea that Ratchet is the last of them
>Have a cheeky joke that she still exists in ACiT
I'm still mad.

>>715326578
He fucked Angela and then forgot about her within a year as he started fucking Sasha*

>>715326080
Never thought about this but even though I prefer R&C overall I can agree with this

>>715326796
The whole "Rachet is the last Lombax" thing was super weird

>>715326786
>>715326796
they wanted to go the wangsty hurr durr last of my kind route even while she already existed without trying to cover their ass with her in any which way
poor writing and a sign that kind of story was a bad call

>>715326785
Nah man, I clearly remember having to backtrack in Jak 1. There were definitely moments where you'd get a new power or need more orbs/cells, and you'd have to go back to earlier areas to collect stuff you missed or couldn't get before. It wasn’t constant, sure, but it was there and it was annoying as hell.

>>715315079 (OP)
Jak 1>Sly 1>Ratchet 1
Rachet 2>Sly 2>Jak 2
Sly 3>Jak 3>Ratchet 3

>>715326785
There's I think a power cell and/or some orbs in the valley between Rock Village and Volcanic Crater that you needed the yellow eco vents open from Snowy Mountain to get. That's about it for "forced" backtracking though.

>>715327178
You're misremembering or something
You don't get new powers in Jak 1 beyond access to previously sealed vents. You might backtrack in single level to access something or find a missed item but that's it, and I don't think that really counts as backtracking like how in spyro 2 for instance you have to come back with an upgrade to get an orb in the very first level
You don't have to go back to sandover village or misty island once you do all the stuff there, which you are always able to do on your first visit
>>715327370
oh fuck, you're right wasn't thinking about this one
pretty sure that's the only one though

>>715326796
>Nefarious wank is getting old.
I'm not sure why Insomniac attached themselves so hard to him, did R&C3 sell a ton more than 2 or 1?
He was a good villain in 3 and was used well in ACiT but then he gets spammed in everything else, even the crappy remake

>>715317487
I remembered liking R&C3 as a kid but I replayed them recently and it was far and away the weakest entry.

>>715327130
>Middle girl
What's her name again? I genuinely forget because of how little she shows up and how little chemistry she has with Ratchet
The only thing I remember is she's supposed to be his new gf

>>715327612
talwyn
she's mega forgotten since rivet showed up lol

>>715327734
>talwyn
Ah yea that was it thanks
Honestly, I don't think Rivet replaced anything. I legit do not remember any R&C fans talking about her or how much they like her
Before Rivet, the only girl I saw mentioned all the time was Angela and the odd Sashafag

>>715327582
Yeah, there's not many people now who would genuinely argue 3 is anything but the weakest of the original trilogy

>>715315079 (OP)
Ratchet 1 was an actual platformer
2-4 were third person shooters with shitty level design and tacked on level up systems
Anything after the PS2 sucks

>>715327543
Easy to fall back on is the way I see it now. Before him it was an OG villain and Qwark really.
>>715327130
>making talking the cutest
Should be Sasha.
>>715326572
Don't remind me. I should've muted the arena and forgot they included Happy Together. Fucking Wang Chung in Into the Nexus was alright, that was just lame.

>>715327959
Hey come on, 2 still had good level design even if weaker than 1.

>>715317487
>Comparing a singleplayer level to a multiplayer one
>Comparing 1 to 3, the most rushed game in the franchise that everyone always points out
Come the fuck on
Choosing 3 of all the possible games just makes it come across as 1 not being good because you had to pick the most rushed game
You could have easily compared it to 2

>>715315698
I liked the presentation of R&C 1 better than the rest of the future games, especially since it was so focused on platforming and exploration and using equipment/weapons to your advantage. The later games put less focus on exploration unlike the first and became more like a shoot'em up that you level your guns with.

>every game has had cut content
>Qwark wasn't the real villain of GC, it was actually Fizzwidget
>UYA was supposed to have the Florana Demolition Derby on top of an actual Metroplis and most likely an Aridia redo
>Deadlocked had you rescuing Hydra Girl on Shaar (snow planet) and then Clank near the end (presumably from the Ghost Station, heighening the stakes even more)
>Tools was supposed to be like 4-5 planets longer with at least 5 ship battles
It sucks. This series deserved so much better, but I am happy with what we had till the remake. Spin offs not inlcuded.

>>715326578
>Devs were talking about female Lombax designs for Rivet
>They ALL acted like a female Lombax never existed and so couldn't decide if Rivet needed a tail.
>Didn't remember until fans called them out.
Do the devs not even play their games?

>blocks you're path

>>715329576
>Max out shield charge on Damosel
>Never have a problem
Of course, doesn't stop their ANNOYING AS FUCK SOUND

>>715328234
>it was rushed
Okay but OP's statement was that 1 aged horribly, when they can't be the case if its the nicest look game in the trilogy.
Controls? Yeah, a little outdated. Presentation? Not at all.

>>715320816
1-2 is a straight improvement
2-3 is less so
1-2 turns hoverboard races into hoverbike races. 3 cuts racing
2 adds space combat. 3 removes it

>>715315397
>>715315079 (OP)


The first game is a parody of heroes of videogames and movies ("he´s the last remaining lombax in the universe"). Second one and Spin-offs are more serious

>>715331438
Nothing about the first game suggests he is the last lombax.

>here's that soulful fun game you ordered sir
Am I the only one who played this or what? Absolutely loved this as a kid, and to this day

>>715331438
nigga you're makin shit up

>>715331639
>and to this day
I played it about 18 months ago and loathed it. I could understand it being impressive on the psp, but idk how someone could enjoy it today outside of novelty.

>>715321665
Gladiator was fun with friends

>>715331639
Haven't played it since my psp stopped working something like 15 years ago. I remember liking it, but I preferred Secret Agent Clank.

>>715315079 (OP)
Ratchet 1 is still amazing.
Ratchet 2 is kinda bad. Every part of it feels unfinished from the story to the gameplay.

>>715315651
Strafing was in RaC, tho?

>>715329576
These niggas had no right being THAT tanky

>>715333439
>>715331639
SM and SAC were both good FOR PSP GAMES. They were dinky toys on the handheld. I'm soooo tired of hearing from poorfags that only ever experienced PS2 ports complain. This is like crying about AC formula front or SW battlefront rogue squadron.

>>715331639
It had some terribly atrocious minigame sequences but yeah it's a good game

>>715331639
>dad got me the psp3000 with this bad boy included
>psp shit the bed probably 10 years ago now
From what I remember it was pretty enjoyable. I went in knowing it was a handheld of the my favorite video game series so I was pleasantly impressed. Never got around to playing secret agent clank though. That psp also had my farthest ff8 save on it, damn.

>>715333865
Yeah once you get the hoverpack like 2/3rds into the game, and even then it sucks to actually use. I disagree that having the ability to strafe any time in the later games ruined the series though.

>Tools of Destruction just reused the glider, but now with zoning tech!
>Into the Nexus brings back the Levitator, but now its a backpack!
They really should've come up with cooler things for Clank in the future series. Especially since it was supposed to be the future.
>most likely just takes place a year after Dreadzone anyways

>>715315079 (OP)
it's still really fun to play though

>>715315397
>slight control niggles
What did he mean by this

>>715321665
I had fun with this game at release but replaying it on emulator today its really fucking shallow and boring. Its a coop game first and foremost and levels are like objective based shit.
The hordes of enemies just becomes mind numbing after a while.
Multiplayer was also not as good as 3.
I had fun on release cause i cooped it with my brother.

My problem with replaying the PS2 games is I just use my wrench for everything. I go in thinking "these enemies are easy and clearly chaff, I'll save my ammo for when it gets hard," and then I end up playing 80% of the game with the wrench because why use gun when you can throw wrench -> jump -> repeat

My brain is broken

>>715331438
>t. didn't play the game

>>715316783
100% This anon is right.

>>715316501
you can literally cheese 90% of the game with the wrench

>>715321665
>gladiator
>edgy

in what world is that game edgy?

>>715329576
reminder that they made that level in two days and didn't even bother play testing it.

>>715328064
In Nexus it was used as a fun (albeit overused) joke
In RA it's supposed to be a feelgood scene and it's really out of place

>>715327892
>I don't think Rivet replaced anything
Rift fans seem to be the ones who never played the Future series whose fans never played the original four games
I'd say no-one's ever replaced anyone in the series, especially when continuity hasn't been a feature of it... more like a running gag, "He'll find his race someday" "You mean his family" "Huh? Who's keeping track anyway"

>>715337374
that gets you about as far as umbris before it gets impractical

>>715337561
>made that level in two days
that's why it's the best level in the game and I'm not even joking

>>715337091
Nah, you're brain is on Ratchet mode. That actually sounds kinda fun.
>>715337225
No, he did. Don't you get it? The real lombaxes were the friends we made along the way.
>>715337309
Thanks anon. I just love series and hate what they did to some of my favorite characters.
>>715337585
Agreed. A lot of stuff in the game feels out of place. Goes to show, time doesn't make a great game if you have retards at the helm.

>>715337696
That whole level oozes soul, and they didn't even finish it. It feels like one of the last soulful levels of the series really.

>>715335683
>defeat the arena owner
>set course for kerwan
>do odd jobs to get enough bolts to start making a bike to do deliveries to earn more bolts
>being a repairman doesn't pay anything
>ratchet says "Screw this" and jury rigs every machine he works on in ways people don't understand so he can collect the now redundant parts to turn into his bike
>2 weeks later
>emperor percival whatever invades
That's all I imagine happened.

2=1>Deadlocked>3 for me. I remember getting 3 on launch day and being really disappointed. Something just feels off with that game.

>>715335683
To be fair to the jetpack in Nexus, it is superior to the levitator in every way

>>715326572
>Push on through the worst arena in the series
Don't forget to get there you must walk through the no violence zone which is a girl's cocktail bar.
Which reminds me of the first no violence walking zone being a girl's nightclub.

I didn't get very far beyond this. Everything screamed "This is not made for you" and I pretended it's all a big joke and the game would start for real at the next planet.

>>715337843
>The real lombaxes were the friends we made along the way.
I wish I was a lombax

>>715337501
By the standards of the series up to that point it was a noticably edgier turn.
>Planet-hopping intergalactic space adventures
to
>Being held hostage and fighting for your life in a no-holds barred illegal combat sports

>>715338056
You forgot the pitstop at Aqautos, anon.

In what way?
Combat wise it is perfectly fine since every game after is piss easy strafing bullshit.
Platformer wise?
Best platforming in the series compared to mostly combat oriented sequels.
Level design wise?
Best levels in the series, with multiple routes practically on every planet unlike the extremely linear ps3 games and anything post 2.
Story wise?
Only one with an interesting Ratchet personality compared to the bland and boring ratchet we get in the sequels.

Ratchet 1 and spyro 1 are the best if you actually like what the series were about.

>>715321665
Stop thinking edgy = bad.
It has a hell of a lot more sauce than anything that came after it

>>715331639
It's definitely overhated. Especially when Secret Agent Clank, All 4 One and Full Frontal Assault exist. Plus it had the cool idea of mixing armour pieces which I wish they'd bring back. I know Rift Apart does but they could very easily drop the idea again. Also bring back weapon mods from Deadlocked.

GOAT

>>715322273
>>715322645
keep defending your shitty pretentious edgelord teenangst gta clone

>>715318257
It is a shitty game and has multiple sections where the fucking women characters talk over gameplay about their fucking feelings

>>715337696
it makes for an actual challenge, and fighting the leviathans is just cool
the glider part is fun
the snow wasteland is very beautiful, and getting crystals is useful
only thing I'm not to hot is the hypno robot part, you can tell that part was very rushed
and I was always annoyed by that one platform clearly intended for a boss that was never made
kept trying to access it

>>715345889
>"pretentious" and "teenagast gta" in the same sentence
Select your words more carefully nigga I don't think you know what you're saying.

>>715348463
i accept your concession

>>715348752
I accept your retardation.

I liked all 3 of them.

>>715321665
the game isnt even edgy, its standard ratchet and clank writing with more guns and less platforming

>>715327543
hes easily reusable, every other villain was killed off with the exception of qwark

>>715352654

no no see he looks angry on the cover which means the game is edgy

>>715321665
Deadlocked is so edgy they didn't give it an innuendo subtitle.

R&C1 is literally the best one

>>715331639
It was ok. I'd recommend the PS2 port over the PSP version.

>>715315079 (OP)
>dated
It's the best game in its series. You just want to strafe and watch things explode.

>>715345759
I didn't like Deadlocked. I want some platforming.

The first ratchetn feels like the missing link between Spyro and the later ratchets.
And its the best ratchet for it.

>>715355073
It really is
The cartoony ground pound from the first game that never returns is 110% spyro
Also I really miss the midair thruster pack boost that also doesn't reappear so the helipack and thruster pack can be merely cosmetic choices

>>715355073
it's also probably the only instance of american humor that i find actually funny

>>715355073
They "course corrected" Ratchet way too hard after the first game.

>>715354959
Deadlocked was different, sure. I still loved it.
Was the condensed weapon mayhem you got from GC and UYA.

>>715315397
>unlikable main character
I seriously cannot be the only one who didn't mind asshole ratchet. It's part of his arc

2 > Gladiator > 1 >>> 3
Love all of 'em, but 3 is by far the weakest
Understandable though given it was rushed to shit. Listening to the two devs and their LP was pretty eye opening.

>>715359849
You have to keep in mind the game was played by mostly 10 year olds, I also didn't like how "mean" he was back then

>>715321665
i always forget the edgy phase of gaming

>>715315698
>>Ratchet 1 is the best
>>Spyro 1 is the best
>>Crash 1 is the best
I thought this back then and still do now

>>715360130
>You have to keep in mind the game was played by mostly 10 year olds
I was 8 when I first played it

>>715360221
>removed this in the 2016 remake
A complete lack of soul

>>715315079 (OP)
What I never liked was how in the first game the galaxy is kinda gritty, all the weapons look bolted together and even the menus are CRTs. Go to a new galaxy in the next game and it's more sleek, shiny and corporate which makes sense.
Then you go back to the first galaxy in the third game and it feels a lot more like the second games galaxy than the firsts

>>715321665
Deadlocked is the best fucking game in the series and I'm tired of people pretending it's not.

Fuck you. Go play Deadlocked on Exterminator difficulty.

>>715315079 (OP)
I think they are all kino
:)

>>715315079 (OP)
Forget gameplay or anything else like that, which game has the best soundtrack?

>>715321665
because they still had normal colored hair people and white men in their team.

>>715360869
Imagine peaking this hard. You could pick up any of those games at random and have a good time. Even if your preferred one isn't the one you pick.

>>715315079 (OP)
>you now remember the Hologuise exists

>>715360959
OG is the Goat in that department.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8PWFPgnZ70&list=RDE8PWFPgnZ70

>>715360959
1 and 3. 3 wins by a narrow margin.

>>715361696
>because they still had normal colored hair people and white men in their team.
Yeah...

Im here once again to bitch about weapon progression in the Racket and Clank series. Change it up. Add new and unique weapons, you fucking hacks.

>>715360959
Objectively 1 but fuck I love the Obani Gemini theme in 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3zP2GTY1_Y

>>715360959
1, but 2 is is really good too

I love listening to this whilst running around the Museum in 2 (still the best one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlaGd4zYex4

>>715360959
1 and deadlocked are tied for #1

i recently replayed the r&c trilogy on emulator and i'd say 1 was my favorite overall. the music, atmosphere, and everything just come together perfectly. 2 was excellent, but just doesnt have the same feel. 3 is honestly kinda meh, and when i couldnt get the game to stop crashing about halfway through i just gave up trying to fix it. i think i actaully enjoyed deadlock more than 3.

>>715360959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGP3eS5Y0LE

>>715326578
Insomniac completely forget she existed
Even had a mild "oh shit" moment during ACiT when they remember her

the jak games are giga-garbage and could never hold a candle to r&c. never played the sly games thoever but desu they always looked like poopy penis to me kek

RaC2 > Sly2 > RaC3 > Jak1 > Sly3 > RaC1 > Sly1 > Jak3 > Jak2

I still wear my roboshack t-shirt every now and then

>>715326572
>The pirate shanty
oh dear god fuck you for making me remember that

>>715315397
>unlimited lives
Post arcade era games still having lives was funny phenomena

The Future games are good and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

>>715363323
>The Future games are shit and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
FIFY

>All the contrarians trying to pretend R&C1 is better than 2
It's all so tiresome, get a real personality.

>>715363323
Correct

>>715363537
I think they're both equally great for different reasons

>>715315698
Ratchet 2 is the best
Spyro 2 is the best
Crash 2 is the best
Sly 2 is the best
Jak 1 is the best

The sequels have it.

>>715363537
I'm sorry for having a personal preference. I'll do better next time.

>>715363323
Crack > Nexus > Tools >>> the rest of the PS3 games

>>715363658
>Spyro 2 is the best
lol

Bought this. What am I in for?

>>715363323
Eh, weaker than the PS2 games, but still serviceable.
Tho i hate how they turned the story into this you are "the chosen one" bullshit.

>>715363832
Some very good games.

>>715363832
Tons of visual bugs

>>715321665
by having the best guns
seeker mine, leviathan flail, harbinger... my betrothed

>>715364256

>>715364345
>mine launcher
>upgrade it to the level where it spawns another smaller mine after exploding, which spawns another mine after exploding
>put the minibomb modification on it
>spam the fire button and watch in awe as it brings the PS2 hardware to it's knees
The bouncer ain't got shit on this

They should have made a Ratchet racer or something. Maybe a space game. I fucking loved Jak X

>>715363658
>Jak 1 is the best
CORRECT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xufjHYipgsU