Thread 715330463

PATAPON 1+2 REPLAY was released on steam several days ago

is this a good game

for patapon 2,
What should I build? There's so many options I'm kind of lost.

>Rhythm boss run game
You unwashed niggers will play literally ANYTHING lmfao.

>>715331137
sorry for your shit taste

>>715330940
They're classic psp games
It's universally known patapon 2 is more forgiving with the timing window but 1 is still fun in its own way if you're up for a challenge of your rythmic sense.

>>715330463 (OP)
When is 3 coming out

>>715332106
2011

do I get this game on steam or switch 2? seems like it would be a good portable game, since it was made for psp.. I don't have a steam deck though, but cheevos are nice and I like having things on PC for legacy reasons,, but actually playing it seems like it'd be better in handheld since that's what it was designed for

>>715330463 (OP)
Ratapan also looks good but I am already spent on the summer sale.
I think the next one is around the TGS.
>pirate it dumb ass
You don't understand I genuinely want to support these guys, I would also like Loco Roco on Steam.

>>715332575
>switch 2
lol

>>715334202
yes, switch 2.

>>715334429
Did you own a PSP / Vita?

>>715334505
no

>>715335079
>>715334429
>not owning the goat console

>>715335776
he already said he owns a switch 2, anon

>>715330463 (OP)
FEEEEEEEVAAAAAAAH

ZUN TAKA TAN

>>715330463 (OP)
Well, are you having fun with it?

>>715330463 (OP)
Did it sell well?

>>715330463 (OP)
I just checked the ps store. Why didn't you nogs buy it?

>>715331137
This.
I have never had a Ouija board in my house, and I NEVER WILL. There are just some things you should never mess with.

>>715330463 (OP)
if you didnt have pata pata pata pon stuck in your head for weeks after playing these games, you are not real gamer

BANA BANA BANANYA

>>715332280
>patapon 3 came out in 2011
just fucking kill me lads I want to go back

>there's an actual non-zero chance of both Gravity Rush games coming to PC and Switch 2
holy fuck

>>715336360
you'd have to be a retard to think that
The PSP was the goat console though

>>715342016
Vita is literally a better PSP

no input lag I hope?

>>715342174
technically better but the ecosystem ended up being so much worse
i wish it had done better which might've happened if sony had been less jewish
vita means life

Pata pata pata pon and Pon pon pata pon should have all had the same first ~2 beats, pata or pon doesn't matter.

The scenario where you waste a command by attacking nothing in front of a freshly destroyed wall/freshly killed unit or start walking into an almost destroyed/killed one because the animation ends a little bit INTO the end command is comically common

Pata pata pata pon and Pon pon pata pon should have all had the same first ~2 beats, pata or pon doesn't matter

The scenario where you waste a command by attacking nothing in front of a freshly destroyed wall/freshly killed unit or start walking into an almost destroyed/killed one because the animation ends a little bit INTO the new command is comically common

>>715341379
Easy money. Sony is in need of it after Concord colossal flop and Marathon looking to do the same.

>>715330463 (OP)
>no ultrawide support
>compressed audio
>latency still not fixed
damn...

Is Patapon 1's input issue only in Replay or was it like this in the PSP version as well?

>>715342458
Keeping the rhythm is more important than wasting commands

>>715341379
Here's hoping. Sony are going to need something to promote the film, and god knows they're not going to want to do it themselves.

>>715342763
Ports of it would do well on the Switch 2 and PC. BandaiNamco might be willing do it if Paparon and Everyone’s Golf do well enough.

>>715342492
>Easy money.
Hah. Sony isn't about easy money, they're about touting some more bullshit no one wants as "easy money"

>>715330463 (OP)
>WAHHHH WHY DOESNT SONY BRING BACK THESE CLASSICS FROM MY CHILDHOOD?? EVERYONE WANTS THEM
Kek

>>715330463 (OP)
Stealth release? I never heard it was going to be ported.

>>715330463 (OP)
>old game
>no release on GOG
welp, torrent it is
why developers don't want my money?

>>715344952
You just weren't paying attention, it was announced at the last Direct if I remember right.

>>715343296
To be fair, i think if these ports do well, you'll be seeing a lot of the forgotten IPs getting the same treatment and it could be a very consistent thing.

>>715340602
>released immediately after the steam sale
>no launch discount
I doubt it.

>>715345214
>you'll be seeing a lot of the forgotten IPs getting the same treatment
You people really have this romantic view of things that I wish I could get back

>>715344529
on one hand, i kinda wanna play it again.
on the other hand, i did. while waiting for ratatan i replayed through 1/2/3 and now suddenly this game came out of left field.

>>715345574
I don't think it's romanticising at all. Not a single person on this planet thought Patapon or Freedom Wars were coming back, and yet here we are.

>please pay for our slightly modified roms!
No thanks.

>>715344529
This is why you don't believe people when they say that PC is always the lead platform. This is out on Playstation and Switch, too.

>>715345741
The same treatment being they are charging money for no extra content, decades after release. They've dropped the "Edition" tag because at this point they are literally selling games they know are free for anyone with a smart phone.
I suppose I should say it's sad that you will all be happy to buy the same game 10 times instead of demand a new game from any of those IPs.

>>715344529
More than Concord and this actually made money for Sony without spending any money. Bandai Namco did that. Also take a look who’s the top seller at Nintendo eshop JP.

>>715346032
>More than Concord
Well jeez I guess every game under the sun is a best-seller

>Patapon 1
>Worm boss.
>Kills everyone instantly.
Is this a "get good" situation or am I expected to grind up several thousand dollars to get my good units. Should I just skip to Patapon 2?

>>715346173
Both.

>>715346173
>Should I get good
>Or just quit and move on
Zoomers really do be like this

>>715346116
Like I said this is easy money for Sony. They’re putting their games everywhere including their old ass PSP games. At this point any money is better than losing money like Concord did.

Any issues with the PC port? or playing the switch port on switch 2?

>>715346246
>So desperate to fit in that he just speedreads posts for buzzwords to reply with more buzzwords.

>>715346173
Patapon is a game that expects you to go back, grind a bit and upgrade your units if you don't get things right the first try.

>>715346173
are you upgrading your units?
Dumb question I know, but the game never tells you how, so on my replay recently I completely forgot to do it halfway through

>>715346375
So desperate to fit in you complain that you don't have any good units and are being killed by a boss. A boss that you have apparently not attempted to grind at all to try and defeat. Then the other idea is to not defeat the boss, simply quit the game completely and move onto 2 as if this situation is a 1 problem.
Where are the buzzwords?

>>715346173
You're supposed to go back to older levels to farm materials and then also farm the various minigames each time you do a level. Certain minigames give you free materials while clearing levels give you materials + the occasional weapon or armor piece drop. You don't need to farm a lot, but you need to run a level like 3 or 4 times + minigames before a story stage typically, and you should be running bosses (With saving in between each boss fight) until the boss becomes way too hard to kill or stagger. Staggering the boss is very important as it forces item drops and you can only do that by doing a bunch of damage quickly. Bosses also increase in stats every time you beat them.

Just tried pirating Replay and it seems actually a bit better than the PPSSPP version. I've had my doubt with all the input lag posting but seems I must consoom, gentlemen

>>715330463 (OP)
just finished Patapon 1. they replaced the end credits cinematic with a bunch of screenshots, what the FUCK.

>>715346642
With these kinds of things there's never a reason to consoom
>B-b-but they might make more
No, they won't make more, they are making a quick buck, just pirate for the nice grafix

>>715342505
>ultrawide
meme

so any chance for a mod to add HQ music or is that the kinda thing only the devs could've done

>>715346032
>Also take a look who’s the top seller at Nintendo eshop JP.
>Dave the Diver dropped to 11 despite the discount
>Patapon has yet to leave 1
>above Tamagotchi which is doing really well
God I hope this rerelease surprises everyone

>>715347847
>is that the kinda thing only the devs could've done
This one.
The ost cds are clean but they're not dynamic. There's probably clean rips that Sony threw out when they closed Studio Japan.

>>715346173
Don't listen to anyone, get full squads of basic patapons, don't use rain miracle but you probably know that already, use chaka chaka when he does something funny.
If you're talking about the 2nd worm boss then you can wait until you get a cook later in the game and make it much easier by using soups.
The whole game can be beaten with normal patapons, soups and good drumming.
For this battle, your army should look kinda like picrel.
Grinding is of course an option and will make things much easier.

>>715348990
>For this battle, your army should look kinda like picrel.
That's about 3x as many dudes as I had when I got to that part.

>>715349125
Yeah but you probably had the colorful ones which are better in the long run.

>>715346173
It's mostly git gud
Time your beats more perfectly and adapt to the current situation with the boss

>>715346246
He should watch his favorite streamer speedrun this before trooning out himself

>>715347847
i mean it's possible with ai shit now
https://files.catbox.moe/iq8pk0.m4a
https://files.catbox.moe/0q5zgs.m4a

>>715344529
I want to buy the game, but it's kinda expensive for two psp games old enough to go to high school, and then there's the issues with audio compression and input lag. I'm waiting until the devs sort things out before buying.

>>715332280
Time…

>>715351642
It's ridden with artifacts, though. Gonna take another couple years probably.

bros, what are the odds of a locoroco rerelease...

>can't triangle optimize because of gay ass dlc equipment the game drops into your inventory for no reason
AAAAAAAAAA

>>715352718
>for no reason
What, did they add new content? The only outside content Patapon 1 and 2 had was the demo spear in 1 and helmet in 2. 2 also had the carryover data obviously. 3 was when they had DLC.

>>715346434
Nta but you can upgrade? Kinda stuck in the same spot

Anybody imported their save file from ppsspp to the steam version, if so how

>>715355191
Stop being stupid, go to school

>>715354965
You can dismiss patapons you don't want and replace them with rarepons

>>715355539
Your post isn't very helpful
I owned it on the psp before emulating it

>>715355836
Oh, well importing PSP saves to steam is much easier than ppsspp saves

>>715355661
I don’t even know what those are yet

Great game, but beware it's a Japanese game means they won't give extended support and the game will have all sorts of wacky problems. Also, the console version will be better than the PC version. The Japanese, even the indie devs, don't understand how the PC ecosystem works. I love Japanese games, but they're mostly hard buys.

>>715356096
Get ready to learn minigames buddy

>>715356360
You copy+pasted this from a reddit post, don't lie.

>>715356560
I wanted to make a venting thread about Japanese games. But I got lazy and posted my opinion in this thread. Japanese games in general are great, but they have problems with support and they just don't know the PC business. Which is ironic since they pioneered patches, public response and whatnot during the pre-internet days, and even in the early internet years. But after that they unlearned idk why.

>>715356096
Rarepons are just patapons you make with rare materials, they have various buffs and debuffs like like more defense or speed.
You can refer to >>715349485 for what they do.
Also it's not important this early but make sure to do a desert hunting mission with a rain miracle, you'll spawn a snail and it'll drop a unique item.

>>715355941
my psp died

>>715330940
No.
It's a very rare instance in which the games have charm, personality and are quite original, yet the games themselves just aren't very good, quickly turning into pseudo grinding/puzzle games.
Lots of people say they love the games. Yet barely anyone has finished them because they turn into brutal slogfests.

So in a strange way, are they good? No. Are they worth playing? Yes.

>>715357236
Only you say this because you're projecting and never finish games

retards be like "I love timing based mechanics like parries!!!!" then shit their pants trying to play something like this that takes actual skill

CHAKA CHAKA PATA PON

>>715344529
I get some of you are brown and retarded, but why would this game ever have a high ccu? This is a remaster of an old psp game. The fact it has many reviews and about a 3k peak is good. On pc alone its probably done like 40-50k sales

>>715352315
1 and 2 had a PS4 port release. They might do a port of that just like Papaton did.

>>715352315
pretty high now, all things considered

>>715332106
third installment keeps getting cucked by publishers. i don't think we'll get a remastered.

>>715341379
2's map sucks, couldn't be arsed finishing the story due to it.

>>715362596
it's okay to be different and wrong

Just skip this and buy Ratatan, it releases in like 10 days
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2949320/Ratatan/

>>715330463 (OP)
Is it worth getting this when I have a PSP right next to me?
I can even plug it into my PC to display the video on screen?
Also it runs fine on PPSSPP

>>715362807
I was mildly interested in this until I found out it was a roguelike

Can we cut the shit for a minute?
When these got remastered on PS4, people whined about “input lag.”
When 1+2 released, same whining.
What the FUCK are people talking about?
I’ve beaten 1-3 on PSP (original hardware), 1 and 2 on PS4, started the 3 port on PS5, and have beaten 1 on the Replay collection.
There is no input lag. I can maintain fever and get perfect hits very consistently after learning a song.
Are people just not aware this is a rhythm game? Do they get miffed and not understand the 4/8 timing?
Literally where are these complaints coming from? Even 1, which has stricter timing, is still pretty lenient compared to stuff like DJmax.
The only difficulty in these games comes from item drops, grinding, and gearing out your squads.
How on earth are people filtered THIS hard?

>>715330463 (OP)
Oh. Ok?

>>715362807
It was delayed due to a bad demo
I'm becoming worried this is going to be my personal MN9

>>715362860
Not really, I doubt the original devs get any money for it either.

>>715362998
>How on earth are people filtered THIS hard?
You never realize how bad people get filtered until you see them play it for the first time. Almost every IRL friend I have couldn't keep the beat.

>>715330463 (OP)
Issues caused by 60fps
>Seems like the developers didn't fix alot of the things that were dependent on the game running at 30fps. Here are just a few issues I've ran into.

>Tutorial text will go away 2 times faster, barely giving you time to read it. Examples of this are the little on-screen descriptions of new songs when you pick them up.

>Any fire breath attacks will deal damage twice as fast as they should, making the bosses that use them unreasonably difficult, even at lower levels. This is most apparent with Dokaknel.

>Megapon projectiles seem to be tied to the framerate, as they are much worse in Replay compared to the PSP original. They used to fly much farther, now they don't.

Hitting perfect beats in Patapon 1 is even more infuriatingly difficult now, since they increased the framerate but did not increase the amount of frames that count for a perfect beat.

>>715363731
I have a g-sync monitor and the game is still tearing screens out of the ass. What the fuck are they doing?

>>715363731
Many Such Cases
Anyone remember that one racing game where speed was tied to frame rate? Actually why?
Remember when Gearbox updated Risk of Rain 2 and tied EVERY mechanic in the game to frame rate? Why?

>>715363731
This reminds me of Valkyria Chronicles and how 60fps made enemy units shoot twice as fast dealing double damage.
Why do developers keep doing that?

>>715365014
>>715364059
>>715363965
They set the game to EASY by default, that's basically a confession from the developers that they didn’t balance it properly with 60fps

>>715362807
Nah, always hate these "spiritual succesors" that cling on old IPs ripping off everything they made the originals instead of making something original themselves.

>>715366582
Ironic cause that one is made by the original devs.

>>715366701
They aren't entitled to just make a clone without the original IP anon, Inafune being the same producer of megaman series didn't made mighty No9 not shit in the end.

>>715363731
What if you force it to 30 fps?

>>715362998
The ps4 ones were bad though. These are fine

>>715367260
Just tested it, the game's animations run in slow motion
It's over

>>715363731
Seems fine to me. It plays fine on the switch. Im always in fever mode in one

>>715362807
I played the demo and it was fucking awful, lost any hope I had for it.

>>715365014
The games were designed for consoles where they'd run at one set frame rate only so it wasn't a concern, it was just the easiest option. They never considered they'd be porting it to PC with various other frame rates 20 years down the line.
Of course the problem lies with the porting team not reworking these things in the process.

>>715336360
t.eric

>>715367495
because you are playing on easy

Patapons! To War!

YA HOI HOI

Has the game been cracked?
In the mood for a rhythm game but I spend way too much on the sale already

CRAPPA CRAPPA CRAPPA
BUM
DUMB CRAPPA DUMB CRAPPA DUMB CRAPPA SLOP

>>715372191
You can emulate it

>>715341280
>G*ra
She has a bf

>>715372191
russians did

>>715372191
Games run perfect on PPSSPP.
And you can get the third game too.

>>715344973
>gog
They aren’t releasing it there because you can’t make money on gog

>>715330463 (OP)
Why are people complaining about timing and audio issues? Is there something wrong with the port did they tie logic to frame rate?

>>715376235
skill issue

>>715376235
People are just bad at the game

Man, I hope we can get some mods for uncompressed audio, autosaving, skipping minigame intro dialogues, fixes for things that the port messed up, and everything.

>>715330463 (OP)
>fighting bosses with Kibapons to critmaxx
>notice that pieces of the crab and robot actually show cracks after enough staggers
huh, was that always a thing?

>ratapon gets annouced
>it's a roguelike
Gay

>>715377389
That was always a thing, same goes for the plant and worm.
It's the main way of getting additional rewards in Patapon 1, though you can only crack them after you kill them a few times.

>>715377594
>though you can only crack them after you kill them a few times.
Makes sense. I only started seeing it after lvl 3 and 4 on those bosses.
Either I just never got enough staggers because I only ever ran the basic 3 or just never noticed when I played it back on the PSP

>>715377389
>he only killed each boss once