For me its picrel

>>715333087 (OP)
The Elite Series 2 is my daily driver. I actually recently got this one for retro games and I love it. Unfortunately had to also get the bluetooth adapter, but the controller is so good that it's worth the extra $20

>>715333087 (OP)
>>715335313
Also an 8bitdo Xbox user. They just werk. I am missing having a joystick for my PC. Any recs?

>>715333087 (OP)
this has one of the best d-pad's i've ever used.

>>715333087 (OP)

I recommend the vader 4.
Its nice.

>>715333087 (OP)
The only true next gen controller worth it's asking price.
Wish more devs utilized adaptive triggers.

>>715337138
>no hall effect
get that shit out of my face

>>715333087 (OP)
Works on PC too.

>Bought the chinese-made Ultimate 2C controller
>Doesn't work with Xbox Gamepass games
>Randomly pressing buttons I didn't press on Steam games
Should have never trust /v/ and buy Chinese product

A modded dualsense and an 8bitdo M30

DS5, I honestly try to play on controller if I can on pc for most AAA games

>>715337138
worst quality controller i had in my life

>>715333087 (OP)
Kingkong 3 pro

>>715337395
>no TMR
get that inaccurate shit out of my face

>>715337667
works on my machine

>>715333087 (OP)
I use a 3 button genesis controller for 2d games, and an xbox 360 controller for 3d games.

A lot of different controllers depending of the game. I have like at least 6 of them.

i still use a ps3 controller for everything.

I use multiple controllers depending on my mood. Last one i got was the Death Stranding Duelsense

>>715338432
Based. Same. With modern driver hacks it really does everything flawlessly. Just performed surgery on mine and swapped out some corroded parts. Good for another 2 decades. Feels so much better playing THPS3-4 with it than my XBONE controller or even my 8bitdo pro, same story with DMC3 and GT4.

for me, it's the 8bitdo ultimate 2 wireless

>>715333087 (OP)
I wish the pro 2 had 2.4g, bluetooth is slow and I feel like the usb-c port is going to be the failure point.

I like the Vader 4. 6 macro keys, swappable stick lengths, and you can twist those rings around the sticks to adjust tension. Microswitch face buttons are an acquired taste, I hated them at first now they're fine.
Only problem I have with it is that the software doesn't let me bind a button to two keyboard keys at once (eg. Ctrl+C) while gameSAAR can handle that just fine.

>>715335816
This.
I have never had a Ouija board in my house, and I NEVER WILL. There are just some things you should never mess with.

>>715333087 (OP)
i am leaning towards grabbing a cyclone 2

>>715338521
Based. What color is your controller?

>>715339715
Just my one classic black one survives. Used to have a cool silver one but it died ages ago.

>>715333087 (OP)
Razer Wolverine V2

ENTER
GAMESIR

who poor here

>>715333087 (OP)
Find perfect gamepad, i think, it's impossible: hardwired, button with colored letters, not paint, but imbedded plastic, xbox layout.

>>715333087 (OP)
>What controller does /v/ use?
got the 8bitdo ultimate wireless 2 and it's pretty good. 4 macro buttons is great. TMR is a meme that barely feels different from standard sticks but it's better than hall effect which feels worse than standard sticks. Still hate cross pads though, diagonals feel worse than any floating pad. Just use my modded saturn pad or custom stick for 2D games

>>715338521
ps3 controller feels shit in the hands and is built for midgets you fucking faggot ass snoy cuck, does jamal not give you enough of an allowance to afford a better controller?

>>715337667
That sounds like bullshit anon

>>715341985
>XBAWKS neanderthal coming in hot as always
My hand is 8.5 inches long. The difference between you ham-handed retards and me is that all you retards cram the controllers into the center of your palms instead of letting it rest in the natural cradle made by your tertiary digits. The compact design of the DS3 lets me do light, fast inputs across a wide range of genres, seamlessly swapping from analog to digital depending on the game's needs while you mush-mouthed chin sucking doughballs chant "Its gud tew play togethuh", controller firmly swamped by your retard grip as you clumsily navigate your latest FPS slop's gamepass.

I use a DS3 with a damaged usb port and I hate it. Might buy a gamesneed cyclone 2.

>>715341518
Honestly it looks good

>>715341872
>TMR is a meme that barely feels different from standard sticks
That's kinda the point
You get sticks that are good -and- durable, not just durable or good.

What the hell kind of name is "Gamesir"?

>>715342509
If you think about it, what the hell kind of name is "gameboy"

>>715342280
are those light, fast inputs essential to hitting all the pleasure spots in your anus, snoy cuck? fuck outta here bitch

>>715343016
Ask your dad.

For a while I used the PS colored one, then I swapped to the 8bitdo ultimate red, and just right now I got the ultimate 2c in blue

>>715333087 (OP)
Grabbed this during the prime sale for 30 bucks. It's ok.

>>715333087 (OP)

>>715333087 (OP)
I use a GameSir Tegenaria Lite
>solid
>feels high quality
>programmable macros
>turbo
>strong vibration motors
>hall effect sticks
>analog triggers
>nice aesthetics
>R4 and L4 paddles
>4 modes
>Xbox
>DS4
>Switch
>Android
>Nintendo/Xbox button layout switch

All that for $16 on sale. I'm convinced that GameSir is using slave labor to make these things because I've never had a cheap 3rd party controller that feels this damn nice.

>>715337595
Every controller works on PC now. This isn't the stone age gramps. You're free from the dark ages. 2016 was a decade ago.

>>715342509
I thought it was Japanese for ゲーム知り
but that's clearly some kind of cock from Tianhe District, Guangzhou, China

>>715343310
>30 bucks from Amazon
I really hope you're using maple bucks or dollarydoos...

>>715343429
i smashed one of those up when i was like 6

>>715343564
buy an ad, jeet

anybody got any recommendations for a cheap xbone wireless controller?

>>715343840
Fuck you, José, I'm whiter than you

>>715337885
TMR barely makes a difference from Hall Effect. The jump from garbage stock sticks to either HE or TMR sticks on the other hand is huge.

>>715333405
is it shooped, i swear it was gamesir lol

>>715343979
Nothing should feel better than a stock stick (unless it's legitimate dogshit) about a hall effect stick. You get those to avoid drift. The resolution is abysmal.

>>715343429
The OG? Or did they make modern replicas? Because I still have my OG in storage with my SNES. Used to use it to cheese Street Fighter when I was a kid.

>>715337667
bought a chink bluetooth gamepad for peanuts during black friday that arrived missing half the features. It's supposed to have 3 modes 2.4ghz (i didn't get the dongle), wired (it only charges when plugged in) and bluetooth which werks. Been using it for 5 years now and it still works perfectly fine, no stick drift or anything despite my mongoloid roommates abusing the shit out of the triggers and sticks while the game loads. It also holds a charge like a motherfucker. I probably charged like 20 times in those 5 years and it never ran out during gameplay

>>715343780
No it was 24 euros from amazon. I checked now.

>>715344173
Is analog resolution the reason the DS3 has so much finer input than my DS4 or Xbone controller? The difference in emulating GT4 or 5 is night and day. The PS4 and Xbox controllers slam to max directional input so early its impossible to finesse the steering with them.

>>715343564
Would have probably grabbed one if I didn't already have a dualsense with TMR sticks

>>715337595
I just got the Nova 2 Lite. The improved d-pad is great but it doesn't have a lock switch for the new back buttons, or a headphone jack port like the G7. So I'm constantly pressing those programmable back buttons by mistake.

Instead they added switches for the triggers that reduce the trigger travel distance... when the controller already has a hair trigger toggle? Lots of weird design decisions here. But that d-pad is really nice.

>>715338567
>Only problem I have with it is that the software doesn't let me bind a button to two keyboard keys at once (eg. Ctrl+C) while gameSAAR can handle that just fine.
Yeah that really shits me. I emailed Flydigi and asked them to add it, they just gave me a noncommittal "your request has been forwarded to the dev team" response. Doubt it'll happen any time soon but in the meantime I've just been using reWASD with new free trial accounts one after another. Would rather use JoyToKey since it's properly free but it doesn't seem to have any gyro support as far as I can tell.

>>715343234
Is it still made for manlet hands?

>>715343564
Something to finally dethrone the F310?

>squeeze controller at intense moments
>immediately smash in both macros
GODDAMMIT

>>715333087 (OP)
DS1 & 2 with this

>>715344958
idk I guess. They feel normal to me but I wouldn't say my hands are small

>>715345068
this is why I'll never buy something with back buttons, i death-grip that shit and hit them WAY too easily

>>715333087 (OP)
I use the pro controller I got with my switch
but getting it to work on PC is black magic stuff
now for some reason it only works with steam when I toggle the big picture mode

I think it's funny I've had the same keyboard for like 10 years and it works brand new but controllers can barely last a few months

How good are third party controllers nowadays? I had a few gamecube ones back in the day and every single one broke after a few months.

>>715343310
>30 bucks
you got scammed, that thing is like 17 bucks

>>715345187
it's good but not great...

>>715345187
>but getting it to work on PC is black magic stuff
is not black magic, you're just retarded

>>715333087 (OP)
Mouse and keyboard

>>715346297
maybe I'm retarded
I use my USB c cable and windows doesn't see the controller, I had to restart and toggle some options in bios and still nothing, then I unplug and plug it back and it's been working now, but only with big picture.
maybe one day I'll buy an actual PC controller, this thread is giving me ideas.

>>715337595
good moning gamesir

>>715346690
you can check the settings on steam input to make it work in non-big-picture mode, alternatively you can use some software like reWASD to emulate an xbox or ps4 controller with your switch controller

>>715345937
Nigga i don't live in the us i live in europe of course something that costs x in us costs x + y in europe. It's 24 bucks it's what i spend with lunch every day i don't really care.

>>715338567
>>715344880
V4p is supported by Steam Input now so you can do all that and some more.

I've only recently gotten back into games, so I've been shopping around to try out new controllers. And by far the best feeling controller is the Switch 2 Pro. It just feels so ergonomic in your hands.

Other ones I've tried are:
- 8bitdo Ultimate 2
- EasySMX D10
- Game Sir G7 HE
- FlyDiGi APEX 4

The Switch 2 Pro felt better than all of these, with the EasySMX D10 being a kind of distant second place.

I haven't tried any of those 200$ - 300$ Xbox or PS5 controllers. Those seem like a huge waste of money.

>>715347530
I just hope it lasts because the ifixit breakdown looked horrendous

>>715333087 (OP)
Dualsense is literally the best controller on the market.

8bitdo is shit quality.
Gamesir can't figure out how to connect to a PC unless it's pretending to be a PS4 controller.
Microsoft put the left stick in the wrong spot and doesn't have gyro.
Nintendo put the left stick in the wrong spot too.

Only bad things about Dualsense is lack of hall effect, but I've never experienced stick drift on any controller, so it's a non-issue.

anybody got this one?

>>715347763
>put the left stick in the wrong spot too.
You're autistic.
The left stick being higher means your hands sit evenly on the controller when you are using the buttons and the stick at the same time. Why would you want your left hand to be tilted lower on the controller?

>>715347763
nope bottom sticks are gay they both need to be on the top

>>715348162
Not only are they gay but your thumbs touch making it super gay

>>715344261
Have the same controller and I couldn't agree more with just how reliable it's been. $15 for a controller that holds a charge and still hasn't developed stick drift is absolute lunacy. I only take issue with the mushy and flimsy d-pad, but the analog sticks are a perfect substitute in most cases.

>>715333087 (OP)
>SkibiDo
what did they mean by this

>>715348026
What is the use for the fifth and sixth button? What do you remap on those? The triggers? Isn't extremely uncomfortable to use them?

>>715348027
>>715348162
Sticks need to be on the bottom so you can hit the dpad and face buttons with your index finders. Putting the dpad below the stick requires getting a pro controller and binding those actions to the back. It just easier and cheaper to use the claw grip.

>>715348328
the genesis and saturn have 6 frontal buttons
same goes for street fighter and mortal kombat arcade machines

>>715348419
I know, i mean playing anything else except a fighting game or a sega saturn\genesis game.

>>715348374
>It just easier and cheaper to use the claw grip.
What's cheaper? Buying a pro controller with correct hand ergonomics, or paying for a doctor when you develop carpel tunnel from doing that autistic shit.

>>715348026
I thought of grabbing something like this, but if the analog sticks are pretty much pointless (I mean look at them) and the d-pad has no pivot like most modern saturn pad clones, what's the point?

>>715348459
NTA, but the ideal controller should include 6 face buttons + the rebindable rear buttons that are commonplace today. Some games have too many functions to map on standard gamepads, and you'd also have a built-in fightpad.

>>715348653
How is "one hand is positioned differently than the other" the right kind of ergonomics?
With fully 3D modern games you're using the analog sticks most of the time.
With older games you're using the d-pad and buttons most of the time.
Both hands should be with the thumbs at the same level. What's more it's actually pretty awkward to move the left stick with your thumb while hitting L1/LB if they're positioned so close.
Also the thumb has less trouble reaching down to the analog stick than a d-pad at the bottom. D-pads sit nearly flat.

How long will Steam take to get official Pro Controller 2 support?

>>715348753
I have that but I can't really think of any modern games that would comfortably use the extra face buttons. As a fighting game player I don't even use them in the oldschool sense, I just put macros like drive impact or roman cancel there because I would rather have heavy punch/kick/dust on the bumper&trigger. Back buttons should really be a universal standard by now though.

>>715347530
>Pricey
>D-pad and analog sticks not fixed
>An absolute pain in the ass to repair
Really I doubt ergonomics that have been fixed on many controllers already are worth this

>>715349290
>Pricey
It's like 75$.

>D-pad and analog sticks not fixed
They work fine.

>An absolute pain in the ass to repair
Just don't throw it? I've been gaming since I was like 5 years old and I've never had a controller break.

>>715349290
The sticks feel like butter. Seriously I can't go back to other pads after using it. Call me a tendie but the rest of the industry needs to copy these sticks ASAP.

>>715349074
Didn't they already give it steam input support?

>>715349557
Just tried it. Steam recognizes it but you still can't map anything.

>>715349523
$85 controller and they still can't make a dpad that doesn't give phantom inputs.

Fuck that shit.

>>715341518
You don't need anything else

>>715349748
Wew, I thought that's just me. Steam on my PC and Deck directly recognize my Vader 4 Pro by name, but the back paddles didn't show up on both wifi or bluetooth connection.

>>715333087 (OP)
Xbox 360 controller. Honestly the best controller ever made in a decade

anyone posting 8bitdo is strolling btw

>>715333087 (OP)
chinkshit 360 replica

>>715349438
>It's like 75$.
Which is pricey
>>715349438
>They work fine.
The d-pad gets accidental diagonals the same as the first one, so it hasn't been fixed at all
The analog sticks are prone to suffer from analog drift the same way
>Just don't throw it? I've been gaming since I was like 5 years old and I've never had a controller break.
Batteries don't last forever

>>715349774
That's fair, I wish they would just make it slightly bigger and that would probably be resolved. But It works just as good as an Xbox dpad for side scrollers and menus, which is all I really care about.

>>715349978
Not really.

I've never see it get directional inputs wrong.
Never had stick drift on any controller, ever.

Nothing lasts forever.

>>715348225
i gotta ask, can yours do wired? Not that i'm gonna use it since bluetooth works just fine, just wondering

I have 8bitdo Ultimate with Bluetooth. its all right

>>715345187
download x360ce if you can't be assed to fiddle with steam (though i fail to see how you can't figure it since even generic no name controller work out of the box). I don't have a switch pro controller but this should do the trick

I barely used a controller during my childhood, only used ps2 controller several times. so I can't get used to a controller but I like the aesthetics. only mouse and keyboard for me.

>>715347530
>Switch 2 Pro
buy an ad

>>715350305
I know for a fact you barely use the d-pad, so your input is completely irrelevant.

And yes really.

>>715333087 (OP)
Vader 4 Pro

>>715338567
I use ReWASD for that.

>>715337838
This
They've patented Hall effect joysticks and triggers yet nobody is using their controllers lol

>>715349748
you can, just make sure the controller is on D(input) mode

>>715343621
Mother company named Guangzhou Chicken Run Network Technology Co., Ltd lmao
https://gamesir.en.alibaba.com/

>>715349952
it gets mogged by the xbox series controller

step aside losers

>>715333087 (OP)
if it doesnt have 360 button layout then it's junk unless youre a console fag

>>715350593
Why are Anti-nintendo people so deranged? It's just a good controller, whatever you may think about the swtich itself.

>>715351435
it isnt. thats the whole issue. all the faults carry from shitch.

>>715343564
No matter how good they are, I will never buy something called "gamesir".

>>715351435
>It's just a good controller
very funny anon

>>715351493
Your brain is so low function you struggle to even use a shift key. Why should anyone take what you say seriously?

>all the faults
Going to cry about hall effect shit? That has nothing to do with how the controller feels to play with.

>>715351843
it will literally eventually drift. what do you not get you braindead ape.

>>715337138
Its a piece of shit that got drift fast as fuck just like the PS4 version I just bit the bullet and got a victrix bfg

>>715351873
>tries to call other people brain dead apes
>literally can't even use a shift key without struggling because his brain doesn't function correctly
Pure irony.

And I was right, you were going to cry about hall effect shit. Again, they has literally nothing to do with how the controller feels to play with.

>>715333087 (OP)

>>715333087 (OP)
this controller is absolute chinkshit, but the hall effect sticks made it worth the buy

>>715333087 (OP)
Don't call yourself a man until you've played at least one game with The Duke.

>>715333087 (OP)
Dualsense. They're defective pieces of shit. I only use them because I have a bunch from my PS5 and I'll too cheape/lazy to buy a controller that actually functiont the way it should (read: has hall effect sticks.)

This normally, PS5 pad for the handful of games where having the trackpad matters.

Dualsense Edge
Despite its flaws it sadly still is the best controller you can currently buy

>>715337138
Agreed, it's by far the best controller I've used.
Xbox controllers are also just too clicky and loud, annoying as fuck.

Suits all my needs + eternal battery life

Are any of these good for fighting games? I've been using my Dualshock 3 since like 2010 and it's pretty much on its last legs. Most third party d-pads I see look like they'd be hell on your thumbs.

>>715352351
>loud
I'll never understand why in the fuck sony has been the only one at this point, including third parties, actively solving this problem. There is no other controller that I know that has whatever the fuck it is inside -only- to make the controller less noisy. It blows my fucking mind.

>>715350312
No. It's strictly a USB-Power port.

>>715337138
Battery lasts about 2 hours and the analog sticks are terrible.
I had this issue where the left analog stick didn't go far enough in Clair Obscur and whenever I was running and moved northeast, my character would slow down and stutter as they switched back and forth between running and walking rapidly. I then saw this happen in two other games. I didn't have this issue with the cheap $25 Gamesir someone gifted me for Christmas.

>>715352658
Most are not. As of recently they opted for adding microswitches to everything so you'll get d-pads that are more accurate, but less comfortable to use overall. They're excellent for menuing and nothing the fuck else. Like the xbox series d-pad.
If you're used to the dualshock 3 for fighting games, I don't understand though. That can't be much more comfortable than most d-pads out there. The problem of most current membrane d-pads (yes, even on these third party controllers praised by everyone by 8bitdo and such) is that it's easier to get accidental diagonals. The dualsense d-pad is more comfortable than the dualshock 3 but I find myself to be less accurate with it.
And I don't know what the fuck is wrong with Valve but the deck has one of the worst d-pads. I'd say even worse than the switch pro controller, good lord.

>>715352858
>has a defective controller
>keeps on using it saying it's working as intende hence it's bad rather than having it fixed

>>715352658
Unfortunately no. Most of the controllers I've tried, even the Cyclone 2 have pretty crappy dpads and suck at diagonals. I'm happy just using my mayflash f300 stick which is like 50 bucks with sanwa buttons.

>>715352736
fucking liars, the manual said it had a wired mode

>>715352920
I have two Dualsense controllers and both have the same analog stick problem and it's even in the northeast position where they don't go all the way.

>>715352912
I put a bunch of fighting games on the Steam Deck when I first got it. What a mistake that was. I can't even do a simple fireball with that dpad.

>>715353019
I also have a Dualsense and never had this issue

>>715348026
yeah it sucks. the hall effect sticks are slippery & tiny. The only pads I like are floating saturn style pads and this one didn't seem that great. The star and home buttons being flush with the controller make them fucking suck ass to press

>>715352858
That's happening because these games don't work well with the circularity of dualsense sticks.
You can calibrate those sticks so they overshoot in every diagonal direction by a bit instead of relying on perfect circularity like some morons are doing when they find these tools. That's what fixed it for me on E33 and many other games.

>>715353026
Yeah, I love my deck but the dpad is atrocious. Wish more consoles/controllers went the way Sony did with the Vita, since it had the best dpad ever made

>>715353026
The only thing you can do, and it's not much better mind you, is to buy an extremerate clicky kit. It's not amazing but at the very least you won't have random diagonals all the time. Seriously this d-pad is fucking 360 bad.

>>715353169
The Vita dpad was so fucking good. Why doesn't everyone just copy that one? I doubt Sony has a patent on it since they themselves don't even use it anymore.

>>715349978
>The d-pad gets accidental diagonals the same as the first one
the fucking snes dpad does this and you retards tell me that's normal behavior
make up your fucking minds

>d-pad
What do you even use these for other than selecting your move in Pokemon?

>>715353360
I know there's some motherfucker out there who figured out how that d-pad works and just jammed it into his deck somehow, I just know it

>>715353449
Analog sticks take the soul out of retro games.

the dualsense.
honorary mentions
>EasySMX X20
>Gamesir G7 SE/HE

>>715353128
How do I do that?

>>715337395
>>no hall effect
>get that shit out of my face
here's the thing: i don't know if this is a meme or not. simply because ALL CONSOLE CONTROLLERS have always used non hall effect sticks and they always worked fine for me ever since the PSone in 1998.

on the other hand a friend of mine has a switch with stick drift and a switch controller, also with stick drift.

Controller autism is something the fuck else and I have it, I just know.
I have 2 versions of the 8bitdo M30. The first bluetooth version, when it came out, and a similarly wired Xbox branded version. Most people think "oh this is the same shit but the xbox one has more buttons".
Wrong.
There's a not well known mod for the original M30 where you can insert a metal ball to create a pivot for the d-pad. The original has enough clearance where this works for the floating d-pad without feeling stiff. Turns out, the newer one doesn't have that much clearance at all and the "hole" where you're supposed to put that ball is also different. I replaced the d-pads between both to get the loose hole and be able to penetrate it properly, and even then, the d-pad would be too fucking stiff on the new one. And the buttons are less rattly and more silent in the new one.
This information is completely irrelevant to most people here but it's silly how much they change stupid shit like this and nobody points it out because technically they should be the same product with a couple of different features.

>>715352658
maybe the m30 is acceptable. I've used it, it's OK. I'd recommend buying a real saturn pad and a modern wired usb one to mod it with. Just unscrew the controller, swap the old board and the new one. Now you have a real pad & buttons with USB connectivity. If you're OK with 4 buttons + shoulder buttons I think the neogeo pad has a good feel out of the box.

honestly if someone is playing 2D retro games or fighting games I'd recommend just getting a stick & customizing it to your liking. There's more of a learning curve if you use it for fighting games but being able to modify every part of your stick is superior to using a pad if your giga autistic about how something feels. Stick feel too loose? Get stiffer springs or a stiffer stick. Want a longer lever for your grip or comfort? Get a shaft extension or bat top. Want louder buttons? Want quieter buttons? Want snappier buttons? Tons of choices to swap to. A mayflash f500/700 is a good place to start since they got standard sanwa parts. Switch to seimitsu parts if you want more snap/tension, get hayabusa parts if you want a softer/smoother feel.

>>715353449
fun fact, many fighting game enthusiasts have progressively moved away from dedicated fighting sticks and play on keyboard now because it makes complex attacks easier and faster
most dpads are pretty bad and not worth talking about, but some dpads are so good that they are comparable to a keyboard in speed and reliability.
it's not just FGs either: 2d platformers greatly benefit from being able to hold the dpad down without having to worry about inputs being registered as diagonals if you move slightly to the sides, which is a common issue in many bad dpads

>>715353591
https://dualshock-tools.github.io/
When you're meant to calibrate by doing circles, DON'T. Instead, try as much as possible to just push the stick to each cardinal direction. Overshoot is not a bad thing, don't let everyone lie to you telling you that a perfect circle is perfect, because some games don't give a fuck about that sort of perfection.

>>715353927
>honestly if someone is playing 2D retro games or fighting games I'd recommend just getting a stick & customizing it to your liking
Problem is how fucking bulky and heavy (for a good reason, of course) these sticks are.
I have one modded with an LS-62 and just basic ass sanwa buttons. I just don't use it. It's a chore for when I want a quick play. And it's the loudest thing in my fucking house because seimitsu STICKS ARE REALLY FUCKING LOUD CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK.
But yeah sticks are the superior choice for shmups and such. Some platformers feel a little bit more complicated though.

>>715353927
I wish I could get a shaft extension...

>>715345138
Such a shame that it doesn't work with the DS2's pressure sensitive face buttons.
I wonder if it works with the negcon? Probably unlikely unless every analog input on it is 1:1 with one of the Dualshock 1's axes

Reason's I got the dualsense all black for my PC

>it was on a reasonable sale
>unmatched aesthetics
>hoping the drift is a cheeto finger exaggeration

>>715354112
>Problem is how fucking bulky and heavy (for a good reason, of course) these sticks are.
I got a heavily modded hori alpha & 8bitdo stick so I don't have this problem. Both light but the alpha felt cheap until I replaced the acrylic with an aluminum plate.
>And it's the loudest thing in my fucking house because seimitsu STICKS ARE REALLY FUCKING LOUD CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK.
lmao yeah they are. Both of mine have seimitsu sticks but I like how loud they are. 8bitdo also has seimitsu buttons which my gf complained about so I got some qanba gravity KS in the alpha. If you can tolerate a non-rotating lever try the sels-70x silent. I use the standard sels-70x for shmups and like it's tension, it's similar to a ls-56. Silent is the same thing. However neither of them rotate which I prefer but throws off a lot of people.
>But yeah sticks are the superior choice for shmups and such
yeah shmups forced me down this rabbit hole. First I was searching for the perfect pad then ended up on stick road because I wanted to comfortable autofire + subfire + auxiliary action more comfortably than I could with a pad

>>715338536
For my 8bitdo the b key started bouncing after 6 months. Shame since I liked the controller.

>>715353169
>>715353360
8Bitdo Ultimate 2(C) uses the same style of tactile switches as the Vita.

>>715354393
there hasn't been any drift for me

>>715355328
>8shitdo
>asymmetrical sticks
miss me with that gay shit

>>715333087 (OP)
dualshock 4 just werks for me although i wish disabling the touchpad entirely was less of a hassle

>>715333087 (OP)
>Like the switch controller the most
>No analog triggers
>Used a Xbox controller for a while for the analog trigger games + 1ms less input lag from steam input (yeah it's a thing), was great but the charging port broke
>Went to buy a new one
>They started making them with the dogshit top hat dpad again, which makes 2d games unplayable

Everything is shit, I can't play anything decently anymore

>>715353927
NTA but, any recommendations for someone who just wants to have fun with friends?

Anyone here have the Cyclone 2? How do you like it?

Wireless Xbox controller
I have a wired controller but it’s not as good
Wired is better for platformers/fighter and wireless for shooters

>>715356130
I really like it, the buttons have a really satisfying clicky feel, but like other anons said, the dpad is no good. It's clicky as well, but the diagonals are bad. I prefer it over the 8bitdo Ultimate 2.

>>715339528
This bad boy made me leak for 17 hours straight

>>715356020
check for used sticks in your area via fb marketplace or whatever. if there aren't any decent used options an f500 should be fine. my cheap stick is an 8bitdo which is serviceable but lots of people take issue with it's small size. if you don't think that'll bother you if you're mainly going to play at a desk or have a laptop mat to set on your lap it shouldn't a problem

>>715333087 (OP)
the exact one you posted OP - used Xbox Elite/DS4/Switch and some other brands, but even after less than a year they'd have drift or button issues, despite mild use; I've had this one since early 2024 and it still works like new with zero drift. had my friend get one when he was replacing his DS4, and he's also never going back - don't understand how a 3rd party controller you can get for $30 is better than 1st for double the price, but whatever.

DualShock 4 that I'll probably eventually mod to use USB-C

>>715356130
Very good controller overall. Bought some adhesive circle d-pads off AliExpress for a dollar, helps a lot with diagonals. Switch and DS4 modes are as performant as xinput, which is rare for third party.
Main gripes are cheap scratch-prone plastic, xinput gyro is unusably bad, and I prefer symmetrical+touchpad so I favor Sony controllers where those matter.

>>715357198
>aliexpress
lol, turbo eurocuck. Do you stay at Airbnb as well?

>>715345138
does this work on modern games that need xinput?

>>715333087 (OP)
Like the other 2 anons who posted the only good controller is the RZR Wolverine. How ya'll niggers shill shitty plastic and rubber membrane buttons with trash dpads that cannot register fucking simple shit like IAD inputs for fighters is beyond me.

>>715355894
Get some tactile switches and wire them to the controller of your choice, then.

>>715354183
It does, I dont know how well it mimics the original but I tried both the >>715345138 and the blue one from aliexpress and they do accept analog inputs from negcon and duckstation reads it

>>715349807
why do you have 2 of the same kind? Or is it just wired wireless difference?

>>715337395
What is hall effect and why do you guys always sperg about it in the controller threads?

Does this count as a controller?

>>715359932
Potentiometer sticks used in most controllers measure inputs by sliding a copper wiper across graphite. Friction wears these down over time, eventually resulting in stick drift.
Hall effect and tunnel magnetoresistance (TMR) sticks utilize contactless magnetic sensors to eliminate that point of failure.

i still use my dualshock 4

>>715337138
Worse than DS4 in every way

So? What's a better alternative for Shitch 1? Gamesir or 8Bitdo?

Pro doesn't just doesnt do it for me.

The only people who care about hall effect are poor.

>>715352676
>actively solving this problem
because is not a fucking problem... if anything it's an intended feature that helps in some genres

>>715352658
check this one >>715336451
is good for fighting games

>>715363646
>it's an intended feature that helps in some genres
How could a loud clicky controller possibly help anything

>>715363720
the tactile click functions as confirmation of correctly inputting a command

>>715347530
I tried one of these finally and the hype was overblown. It's a good controller but nothing special.

>>715363887
So like, for fighting games then? I can see that I guess.

>>715364020
For games that make heavy use of 8-way 2D movement, like fighting games and shmups

>>715333087 (OP)
Been using an Xbone controller for almost 10 years for PC. Never failed, always worked, but it finally kicked the bucket. I'm seeing if i can get it repaired.
Been using my switch pro controller in the meanwhile.

>>715355328
never used a vita, but i can confirm that the 2C dpad is good, they should have used that dpad on the pro 2

>>715353449
for like 90% of the games i play... mostly shmups and 2d platformers

Honest question.

Is there anything a controller can do that a Mouse + Keyboard can't do better?

>>715364126
I don't get this at all. You move so fast in these games there's nothing to confirm there. If you're playing with someone else it's even more difficult to tell.

>>715364706
anything that needs 360 movement so say DMC3 plays way better. Games with fixed angles and non-tank contols again the 360 movement comesin clutch. I think fighting games are unaffected though since you don't need those 360 directions if you can get used to keyboard.

>>715364831
the sound comes fast too, and in shmups sometimes you have to keep holding diagonals and dont have time to visually confirm the input

>>715364706
how would you play ape escape or Just Dance with mouse + keyboard

>>715356130
>Anyone here have the Cyclone 2? How do you like it?
i like it, the dpad feels better than i originally expected

This controller.
Thought I'd hate it but the dpad is surprisingly very good for MegaMan x games and platformers.

>>715365648
GAMESAAR

>>715345187
>getting it to work on PC is black magic stuff
Only if you're on Windows.
In Linux the fucker just werks out of the box.

>>715364706
Skate games (Tony Hawks, skate franchise, Session and Skate Xl) are unplayable on m+kb, also any sport or fight games.

>ITT chinks and jeets are trying to outshill each other

>>715333087 (OP)
all controllers are shit at this point. There's not a single durable analog stick on the market. I fucking hate it. Going down any rabbit hole on this topic you end up learning that everything is made by the same 3 factories in china and they all have the same defects. You might as well buy some dropship quality garbage straight from TEMU

There is no escape.

>>715369252
jeet/chinkshit is the only shit we can afford on thsi board. you think these shitposts are gonna make themselves we deidicate our lvies even if it costs our 'carreeers'. JAI HIND

>>715369252
>he thinks that by buying ms/snoy/cucktendo hes somehow free from chink shit
L M A O
M
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>>715337138
the problem with the dualsense is that, especially after the post tariff adjustment, the pricing makes no sense. My last dualsense lasted 1 year before the left stick drifted. They want $75 for something built like trash.

One of these since I still use an rgh'd 360 sometimes. Works fine on pc too with the usb receiver.

>>715333087 (OP)
Kishi V2
For travel
>small
>super responsive
>awesome dpad
>min battery consumption

Kishi V3
For home
>comfortable
>bulky
>audio jack
>connects to my pc via USB C
>probable
>LED lights

>>715371159
Forgot image

Already have a G7 He, what should I get for 2D games?

>>715370090
KEK

>>715371095
the d-pad on this was a total meme and my sticks drifted pretty quick, but it is the best looking xbox controller by far

>>715333087 (OP)
this thing is too small and gave me hand cramps.

>>715360738
No, that’s a spyglass

>>715364706
Platformers
That’s literally it(dpad)

>>715369252
Are they in the room with us right now, Kojima?

>>715333087 (OP)
For fighting games

>>715353814
Actually interested in that mod, how much does it help? I recently bought the bluetooth M30, first time having a D-pad like that. First impressions are quite good, but still not used to rolling my thumb around it, and it seems sometimes when I quickly swap it inputs others (ie, going from holding right to directly down quickly, seems for some reason that leads to the left-down diagonal if I do it too quickly). Are you meant to really extend your thumb outwards to only touch the cardinals, or all should be on the same spot like the diagonals?
And, would a pivot for the D-pad be what would help for this?

>>715343597
Lmao, based. I just had to dig out my Dualshock 3 to emulate MGS4. I forgot how much I hate them, but I needed the gyro controls.

>>715373007
I use it for retro and 2d games and occasionally for shmups when I'm too lazy to use my arcade stick.

>>715373007
This would be perfect if it just had a second stick.

>>715369252
Chinks are the only ones currently innovating in the space. I would love to buy from a yuropoor or burgerstani company but zhangs just deliver more for less.

>gamesir

What's that, some budget china controller?

>>715356130
I've had it for about 8 months now and like it a lot, D-Pad seems fine to me but I don't play Fighters or anything else too reliant on it.

I bought a Wolverine V3 Wired as well but returned it because I couldn't justify it at twice the price of the Cyclone.