On the left is Square Enix's biggest moneymaker after a HUGE visual update that took 11 years to make.
Most of its dialogues and cutscenes are unvoiced and use generic emotes and static camera angles.
It's formulaic and afraid to experiment.
It costs $12-15 monthly and each expansion is $40.

On the right is a mid budget mobile game from some third rate developer.
Most of its dialogues and cutscenes are voiced, have unique animations and are well-directed.
Each update adds new mechanics and feels fresh.
It's free. And it's running on the engine that is almost as old as XIV.

Really makes you think.

>>715341047 (OP)
>Really makes you think.
what am i thinking about?

>>715341047 (OP)
Why didn't you mention the name of the games, especially the game on the right?

>>715341047 (OP)
is that wuwa
there's a decade of technological advancements between these games

>>715341047 (OP)
>mid budget
>third rate developer
>Is also Backed by the CCP
>Is also a gacha that Generates billions each month from gacha niggers

>>715341854
>everything is backed by CCP

What are we thinking about again? I forgot.

Oh yeah right Trump bad.

>>715341920
Hey, cumstain, literally no company can be allowed to flourish in china if it doesn't have party members on the board. It's law.

>>715341047 (OP)
It's honestly shocking how much Wuwa dabs on XIV when it comes to tech, I don't understand why YoshiP is afraid to populate his empty cities with NPCs, hence why all non-ARR and non-current expansion cities feel like ghost towns.
>>715341854
>Is also a gacha that Generates billions each month from gacha niggers
Bro, your $6 gloves and $6 hat for your $18 outfit? Don't get me started on mounts.

>>715342085
Cool propaganda, I genuinely believe it like everything else that media tells me. You know what's also propaganda? Epstein's list, that thing clearly never existed.

>technical debt
anyway, how are Square's gacha games doing?

Posting a different 2014 MMO. Making NPC towns feel believable in MMOs is lost art.

>>715342127
>>715341047 (OP)
That's because Japanese developers are horrifically bad at actual coding and programming.

Japan are incompetent garbage just look gamefreak

It's kinda funny, I'm going through WuWa right now and it's giving me those feels that FF used to give me.

>>715341047 (OP)
>anti-SOVL fog
Yeah it looks like gachashit alright.

>>715343952
but enough about FF14

>>715341047 (OP)
Left is more visually interesting

>>715341047 (OP)
China is basically what Japan used to be back when it was taking over the world, except 10 times bigger and it won't be making the same mistakes the nips did to cuck themselves out of relevancy.

>>715342127
It's wild how Wuwa feels more alive with half the man-hours and budget just because they actually give a damn about immersion. XIV’s cities are like Hollywood backlots-just façades with vending machines. Meanwhile Wuwa has NPCs doing little routines, VO on even side quests, and actual ambient storytelling. But nah, let's spend development resources on another dog mount that costs half a full game.

>>715341047 (OP)
Makes me think I don't want to touch either

>>715341047 (OP)
Right looks like fucking fortnite

I-Is this a WuWa thread by any chance..............................................................

What a particularly retarded opinion

>>715343525
It's also poorly paced and poorly voiced until first update. 1.0 needs a major rework.

why are there two xiv/yoshi p seethe threads up now? how autistic do you have to be to do this constantly

>>715341047 (OP)
>Really makes you think
No it doesn't

>>715344701
it's that sweet sweet rtx update
finnofanno could never

>>715341047 (OP)
Shadows and shaders kill all the PS2 soul

>Left
>Interesting unique building that make you wonder what the place is
>Right
>Generic fantasy land

>>715345746
>Ummm, why do people don't like XIV now?
Clearly it's a conspiracy by some dedicated discord troon Barry, and totally not the laughable current state of the game. Couldn't be that, people LOVE XIV amirite?

>>715345983
ok sure maybe the game is bad i wouldn't know cause i dont play it but why does there always need to be 2 or more threads up about how bad the game is

>>715345959
>ARR
>anything but a generic
Heavensward's flying islands unironically made everyone piss their pants back in the day, because they finally added some Fantasy to Final.

>>715341047 (OP)
Is it just me or is that a downgrade on the left? The mechanical stuff stands out from the natural scenery a bit more pre-7.1. Still ugly in both cases, though. Coming from WoW to FF14 was a bit of a shock. The environments are so much uglier. I'm used to Japanese games being the pretty ones and Western being ugly, but not in this case. I think the problem with FF14 is it's trying to be "realistic" but do it with PS3 MMO tier limitations which ends up incredibly ugly and soulless looking, whereas WoW was working with the same-ish limitations but had an actual artstyle.

>>715346382
wow art team carries
sry, carried

>>715346067
It's funny, I've started playing FFXIV because of these threads. I wanted an MMO to play and was reminded of XIVs existence because of them. The hatred here directly gave square £7.

>>715346570
>£
Well bongs are retarded, nothing new here.

>>715341047 (OP)
FF14 looks bad
Wuwa has good graphics but it's kinda hideous sometimes
Genshin mogs them both

>>715346382
>Is it just me or is that a downgrade on the left?
Agreed

>>715346648
mad?

>>715346382
Wait, that is supposed to be the same area?

>>715346705
disappointed

>>715344517
The u.s. destroyed glorious nippon's ascent, out of pure jealousy and spite. What happened, was not glorious nippon's fault. It was the evil americans, yet again.

>>715341047 (OP)
The left is beautiful and makes me want to explore it, the right is soulless trash.

>>715348981
>giant cheetos erupting from the Earth's surface
>beautiful
The buildings are sort of neat, they remind me of PS1-era prerendered towns in FF. But something about the way they render any kind of rock, mineral, mountains, dirt, etc. all looks so godawful in that game. It's like they cranked up the bump maps too high or something.

>>715346839
Yeah, same spot post-7.1 graphical update. They messed with the lighting and textures, so now it looks like someone smeared Vaseline over a Unity asset flip. Lost all the depth and contrast that made the old version at least *readable*. Say what you want about old XIV, but it had a kind of grimy charm. Now it’s just sterile.

>>715349619
critique it all you want it's steal leagues better than that flat shit on the right

@CCP i will play your gachas if you give me a server emulator with offline play

>>715350789
with a cheat console also