Thread 715368216

>killing floor 3 open beta just started
>no thread

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1430190/Killing_Floor_3/

>>715368216 (OP)
i don't play multiplayer shooters because i'm EU and don't want to get matched with arabs and russians.

>>715368216 (OP)
man KF really shit the bed
why did we all stop playing it

>>715368216 (OP)
>open beta
>very clearly closed

KF2 was so bad I lost all faith in this series

>>715368216 (OP)
>played 1 full match
>everything feels significantly worse than 2
>the movement, the guns, the sounds, the trader, shooting
>characters are still locked to a perk, you cannot chose a character then what class you want to be
>UE5 game that runs like shit and looks worse than KF2
>uninstall

look yeah sure its a beta but come on why is EVERYTHING so bad

>>715368216 (OP)
why would I ever want to play this shit

>>715368705
>>UE5 game that runs like shit and looks worse than KF2
ffs. dropped

>>715368216 (OP)
>soiface fleshpound
lmao

>>715368705
It will probably require and entire dedicated SSD too once they add all the skin bloat.
KF2 was like 20-30 gigs before that and is now close to 100.

>>715368216 (OP)
Tripwire needs to unfuck itself and make Red Orchestra 3.

>>715368216 (OP)
Fuck the hero and futuristic bullshit. Just let me play as a team of rag tag police and military survivor.

>piece of shit started open beta
woah don't care

We don't give a fuck. KF1 had SOVL, then they got too much money and 2 was shit, 3 will be no different. Just shooter slop now.

>play pyro

>its a female that spamming marvel quips

uninstalled

The tone shift from 1 to 2 has done irreparable damage. They did not course correct with 3. 2 was fun but the amount of storage it needed was too large. If this game is on Unreal five, I expect that it will look samey and also not run the best. Devs really need to turn off all that extra lumen and nanite crap so that these UE5 games can actually run. Not a poorfag, but the fact that most GPUs on the steam hardware survey are xx60 should tell devs something.

>>715368216 (OP)
>still a hero shooter
Guess they didn't listen. DOA.

How much of the Overwatch-copying bullshit have they abandoned? Heard they were pivoting hard from the monstrous feedback

>>715371547
pyros character is literal tracer with cringe woman humor

Dunno if UE5 or just my laptop showing its age but holy shit, even at the lowest of settings it runs bad.

>>715368216 (OP)
>open beta
>request access
>it's closed
u bloody wanker m8

>>715372816
It's modern game dev on UE5. No one bothers optimising anymore games all look like shit but are also impossible to run without 10 layers of fake frames and fake res picking up the slack

>>715368216 (OP)
Killing Floor is fucking dead it's not the game old /v/ used to love anymore

>>715368216 (OP)
>fired everyone who was responsible for 1
>fired everyone who was responsible for good parts of 2 and then ruined all those good parts
>only people working on 3 are absolute imbeciles who are responsible for the absolute state of current KF2
Nah, I'm good.

>>715371431
Whoever thought this was a good idea should be blacklisted from the industry forever.

Did they get rid of character lock for classes? Making me play Killing Floor as anything but a cheeky British chappy is a disgrace and I shant be participating if so

>>715373521
*responds in spanish*

>>715373601
woke foreign nonsense

>>715368705
basically my experience, downgrade in literally every aspect over 2

>tried sniper class
>default weapon is pretty good against normal zeds but average against specials
>second weapon in sniper class is a 3-burst rifle, complete dogshit
>third weapon is also again very strong
>the downside is that you only have 8 bullets in a mag and reloading isn't the quickest
that and the general balancing was the only part that felt a bit right

my recommendation: HUGE avoid. unless they rework the game from the ground up (they won't)

>Have something that works
>Change every single about it for any sequel
This is a bit very odd trend in gaming lately.

>>715368216 (OP)
>no thread
because nobody gives a fuck. lame franchise

>>715368432
The devs prioritized profit over philosophy and chased modern AAA trends, forgetting why the first game was so well received.

How do killing floor games get worse so consistently?
2 was worse than 1
And on top of that they made 2 worse over time
And now 3 is even worse than 2?
Hell, they'll probably make it worse over time like they did with 2 as well

>>715374002
Trying new things isn't bad, but they aren't even doing anything new, just copying already outdated trends nobody likes anymore.

is it worth it to install? I played the beta back in like april(?) and it really felt like a mobile game version of KF. They delayed the game to fix everyone's feedback but just a few months cant be enough right?

>>715374189
2 is a sidregrade.
It has way worse atmospere and overall class balance (since every class can basically fight any zed unlike 1 where teamwork is essential) but way better hitboxes and weapon feel.

>>715374189
>How do killing floor games get worse so consistently?
See >>715373462
They might own the legal rights to the Killing Floor name but these are not the same people that made Killing Floor 1

cool game

>>715368705
>>UE5 game that runs like shit and looks worse than KF2
Pass.
This engine is shit, game devs either need to learn how to make a game that's optimized well using it or stop fucking using it.

>>715374189
They saw a cool mod for UT2k4 that they decided to turn into its own game with some neat changes and additions to make it better. They then started to hate everything people enjoyed about that game.

>enjoyed 1s aesthetic and clear passion project vibe, sharpshooter is a blast with the crossbow
>liked 2s Berserker, gunslinger, and encouraging mobility and a move and shoot style approach as a fair alternative to holding ground like in 1, fun changes, shame that save for some neat maps like nightmare or fallen Paris, the aesthetic shifted to neon ugly fuck design and monetization for weapons that just didn't feel as good as most of the base ones aside from like the Zwei or the Nagat
>mfw 3 somehow is the worst parts of both with none of the redeeming qualities of either
How did this and payday 3 shit the bed so hard compared to their 2nd entries?

Got a friend who works at tripwire as a dev and idk it's sad to hear the bad reception these games get since I know he works his ass off but at the same time half of these claims are true.

Why would you play this over the first game that has endless custom maps?

>>715374313
I uninstalled after one game
its that bad

I miss KF1 bros

https://youtu.be/aaktsSampdY?si=sR6MaYdo1dROpesO&t=44

>>715374812
Ask him why do they hate holding your ground and camping, and grindhouse aesthetics

>>715374523
Why does it look so shitty

>>715374863
first game old
old bad
new good

>20 min to download the game
>20 compiling 11k shaders
>Agree to TOS
>Agree to second TOS
>Solo greyed out
>Pick Multiplayer
>Pick a character
>Hero shooter instead of pick whoever you want plus perk
>Start match, disable matchamking
>Game takes 2-3 min to load
>Crashes
>Open the game again
>Starts compiling 11k shaders

Yeah, now, I tried, I really tried, this is dogshit, UE5 is so ass, most of what I do nowadays is see a progress bar slowly filling in while the shaders are compiling. Not even mh wilds takes this long. Have fun with your slop

I’ve been hyped for this game and preordered it a long time ago. Played two rounds and all my hype is kinda dead. I fucking loved KF2 even though a lot of fans hated it. But KF3 just feels off to me. I don’t know what it is but it just wants me to pick up KF2 and have fun with that instead.

what a piece of shit

I need some dosh right now

>>715374964
What is wrong with UE5? Legit question btw, shouldn't it be better than 4 I mean why else release a new engine if not. It should be exciting to hear a game is using a new engine, not cringe the instant I read UE5.

>>715374923
Because all their good staff left or were laid off at the end of KF2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iC0jxiJMkA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP01eSryobc
you can tell because even the gun porn animations went to shit

>>715375161
>What is wrong with UE5?
Lots of things particularly in matters of performance and post-processing effects that are baked into the engine
>shouldn't it be better than 4
It is. UE4 was a disaster in its own right
They should unironically go back to making games on Source

>>715368216 (OP)
>loud fucking music while compiling shaders before you can change any fucking settings
gee, fucking thanks

>>715375145
>made in 2009
>still looks good thanks to cohesive artstyle
>ten trillion frames per second
>better AI than KF3
why did we forget how to make games

>>715375145
>LOADSA MONAYYYYYYYY

this game is doa

>>715375286
this is 10 bucks DLC btw, not some free update

>>715375552
Only stupidly smart and autistic people made mods for Source because of how garbage it was to use. Unreal is made to get billions of retards to use it in hope they eventually make something that give them sweet royalties

pfffthhahahaha

Played the fuck out of KF1 back in the day

Didn't give a shit about KF2 and skimming the thread sounds like KF3 will suck balls, the right side of OP's pic doesnt even look like KF just any faggy moba shooter

You simply can't do a game like KF anymore in modern gayming era, too much 'made for gamers by gamers' kino, passion, soul and fun jank. Modern trash could never

>>715376393
AAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NINTENDO SUE THIS MAN

>>715375145
DONT JUST STAND THERE SAVE ME
>Anon was filled with shrapnel

>>715376393
... for an open beta? Why?

Why doesn't unreal establish an UE5 Optimization team that they then contract out?

>>715376797
why bother?

>>715376748
It's not an open beta, you have to apply for it, but it just shows how insecure they are.
The game is out in a week anyway lmao.

>>715376393
>SIR YOU CANT FILM THAT, SIR PLEASE STOP
seriously? it's an open fucking beta, fuck are they gonna do?
apparently, everyone has simultaneously heard of and never heard of the streisand effect

>>715376859
It kind of is an open beta tho I applied for it and got an automated invite mail seconds later

>>715368216 (OP)
The first beta they did earlier this year was an abomination. Not interested in Killing Floor: Payday 3 edition in the slightest.

>>715376945
By definition it's not open if you have to apply for it and be greenlit. It's selective, undesirables will be denied.

2 was really shit. I had hope for 3 but heard they basically made it a restrictive class based shooter by character you pick and it locks weapons and has lame ass skills. Have they walked any of this back?

>>715376797
Because they already know the engine is fucking dogshit and can never be optimized or fixed in any way. Why pay someone to do work that can't be done?

>>715368216 (OP)
>payday 3 is dogshit
>killing floor 3 looks to be dogshit
Maybe Gaben was right and 3 IS a cursed number.
Anyways, not buying until I see some bonger accents contrasting with the setting.

>>715377048
You can't claim it's selective when every applicant gets an immediate and automated approval

>>715368216 (OP)
2 is still plenty fun if the mood to play strikes. Nobody ever wanted or asked for a third one.

>>715374189
The creator became a christfag.

>>715377126
>when every applicant gets an immediate and automated approval
Proofs?

>>715377048
Nigger I just clicked the button two minutes ago and got an "invite", for all intents and purposes this shit is just equivalent to account creation

>>715376748
They know it's dogshit. Any screenshots or recordings only serve to harm the brand further yet they still need lots of unpaid playtesters to find bugs. They are total scum and deserve this money pit.

>>715368216 (OP)
Didnt they already release this a while ago but it was so bad they decided to do some major reworks and now its still fucking bad? Maybe its time to throw the damn towel at this point..

>>715376797
Even Fortnite has a lot of the same issues as every other UE5 game, the engine just sucks.

>>715377126
>>715377228
It was definitely selective up until today. IDK if they just sent out a new batch of invites or it's automated (some opt-ins on Steam definitely are). I signed up months ago and got an invite today.

>>715377104
>have they walked any of this back
not only did they not, they said they would then didn't. if you didn't like 2, this is significantly worse

>>715369657
the devs of Red Orchestra/Rising Sun bailed out of Tripwitre and they are making their own game without their hindering. This time is set up in late stages Cold War, pretty kino

>>715368216 (OP)
Sorry but killing floor 2 didn't have the depth and charm of 1. All I remember is a blur of running in circles giving headshot to speedy faggots that feel like they're appearing ten feet away from outside my field of vision and there wasn't much else. And even playing on console with autoaim off the firing your weapon part ain't as good as og KF, a game I barely played 40 hours but still left a strong impression on me.
Maps are generic sci fi stuff or Halloween fuckery themed, it's not my jam. Even that Salem map with a sepia filter couldn't move me.

>>715368216 (OP)
I genuinely and honestly have no interest. It looks bad. And after hundreds of hours played in both 1 and 2 over the past 15 years I don't feel any real urge to play more of it. They fucked up and should have put the development costs into a new Red Orchestra or Rising Storm instead.

>>715377227
>became
He always was. Also he's out and things got worse. I'll take the christfag making a great game over woke retards making shit.

>>715368216 (OP)
If this kills Tripwire, I will feel nothing over it. We all know this is going to bomb hard.

>>715377469
>they're appearing ten feet away
because they were. they basically got rid of all defensive posturing and added a fuck ton of rando entrances only zeds can use

>>715377453
huh neat. I love RO I played it since the UT2003 1.0 beta. I'm sure I still have it on a disc some where too.

>>715368432
Devs prioritized consoles and a shitty mode because "ABORTION IS MURDER"-manchild CEO focused on those instead of making more maps for their co-op PvE horror shooter.

Oh and they added robots to a fucking Zombie game.

>>715377502
>new Ris--
RS2 is fucking broken and has been since launch. Why the fuck would you have ANY faith Tripwire (post-Raam) would knock a RO4/RS3 out of the park?

>>715368216 (OP)
So what did they change since the last update?

>>715375469
Honestly I think REngine has been the only newer engine aside from Source that seems like it can run on any potato with decent visuals, UE5 is such hot steaming garbage

>>715377640
Oh yeah the random entrance I was shocked when I saw that video about that map maker who got fucked bigly by tripwire when they redesigned his military base map, so I went to play it again and the motherfuckers rain down from roofs and random vents. And there's also all the visual design choices such as making it so bright turning on the power consoles won't change anything.

>>715373849
>log into the beta
>expect Jim, Jack and Harry
>get "Obi", "Nakata" and "Imram"
this is actually horrific

>>715377048
It's open. It's just using Steam's beta invite scheme instead of being a depot so they can delete the "open beta" once the game launches next week.

>>715377124
>Max Payne 3 was shit
>Crusader Kings 3 was shit compared to 2
>MFW Sonic 3 is the only one to escape the trilogy curse and he pays for it by having most of his games in the franchise be buggy dogshit

>>715377813
ceo was already gone before all that happened

>>715378053
Yeeep. You basically have to have one player dedicated to staring at vents all game.

>>715377909
In what way is it broken? That game was excellent and the market for that kind of AA hardcore multiplayer fps is basically wide open because nobody has made one in years. All there is to choose from nowadays are Squad and Hell Let Loose, and the former is utter garbage.

>>715377227
The creator left and hasn't had a hand in the franchise for years, retard kun.

>>715368216 (OP)
>SUPER SPECIAL """"DELUXE""" EDITION!
>'supply pass'
>creds

>>715378171
Max Payne 3 and CK3 are by far the best games in each respective series. What the fuck are you smoking?

>>715378164
Then they changed it last minute because they didn't get enough players for their "stress test", which is even funnier

>>715376393
Is this how they plan to recoup costs on the game? Suing people that post stuff from it?

>>715377925
>REngine
If the only locations you have in your game are 2x2 rooms, sure.

>>715376393
>NDA
>for a game that is listed as releasing in two weeks

???????????

>>715374762
The second entry was shit also, it just rode the hype of the first.

The reason for killing floor shit its bed because people who made it aren't there. It was made by modders whose ideas were bought by the leech publisher, simple as. People who made the first one aren't there and the vision and understanding of what made it good are completely different, and most important point, they got to make money in any way possible, especially knowing your game is shit and will be rediculed, you might as well crank those micro transactions to the limit since it won't matter anyways. Same exact situation with payday only they took the title name too literally for themself.

>>715378314
>MP3 is better than 2
clearly you're on the same stuff. MP3 was a pretty good game but not even in the same league as MP2.

>>715378316
Game is shit, but this is how every beta operates on Steam. Actual stress tests and before release betas auto opt-in

>>715378314
>3
>best
Best at outting retards maybe, mp3 was dogshit compared to 2 aside from the airport shootout and that was half carried by the music

>>715375823
Kf1 is unreal engine, dummy

>>715373521
Its coming post launch already announced

>>715378528
They should absolutely delay the game again to make that a base fucking feature.

>half a fucking year to compile shaders
>stutters to hell and back randomly still
I sure love UE5 slop

>>715378424
>>715378436
2 was a terrible game. Literal half-assed shovelware at best. Awful bait.

>>715378487
Unreal engine 2 is one of the most beautiful and easily moddable engines. Please don't lump it with UE5 abomination.

>>715377923
This. It sounds like they didn't change any of the stuff they promised to change months ago.

>>715374641
>stop fucking using it
Anon-kun, they aren't going to because it's the ONLY middleware engine out there that isn't Unity or GODOT but LMAO who uses GODOT besides 1-2 indies?.

Blame Palmer "Drone Striking Children in an open-air prison is fun, actually!" Luckey and his VR headset for having Carmack fuck off from making Doom/Quake/Rage (aka: "iD Tech") engines to chase that VR Dragon.

As soon as Carmack left, there was no reason to make Unreal Engine optimized for Timmy Tencent and the industry blew up because of it.

>beta
>only 4 hours of access
lmao why

>>715378583
They honestly need at least 9 months of delay to unfuck most of the foundational problems the game has. There was no way in hell this measly delay would've fixed anything significant with how deep it is. The whole game needs to be redeveloped

Guns feel okay
Zed movements and AI are wonky as fuck

>>715378757
I don't think they promised to change anything? Far as I have heard and seen on the forums they basically ignored feedback and kept making this worse and worse.

>>715378424
This is also true for Mario party

>>715378984
Lmao the fuck is this tiktok filter?

>>715378719
2 was the best in the series and you're talking out of your ass

>>715378824
>>only 4 hours of access
Yikes, really? I was going to install to give it a shot myself but if this is the cases it's not even worth the download.

>>715377813
The CEO was long gone by that point dipshit, the only part of 2 you can blame him for is the christian metal bands and overall shitshow that was its early access.

This gayme is a fucking joke

>>715378528
What a retarded thing to do
>yeah we're just gonna release our game in a shit state and fix it later while we just eat the negative reviews and bad first impressions because neither of those things have ever sunk a game before lol
Either that or they have no actual plans to fix it because it's too fucked at this point and they're planning to pull a concord and take the whole damn thing as a tax write off

Of course /v/s contrarian ass hates 2 and sucks off 1, endlessly repeating MUH GRINDHOUSE AESTHETIC that you no doubt heard in a youtube video.
When it comes to actually PLAYING the game, 2 is the better game
>B-But
Check the steamcharts lil bro, people don't play 1 like that

>>715368432
Killing Floor was kino because the setting was grunge and grindhouse and involved you moving and shooting constantly or working together to kill everything as fast as possible before you get scrake'd or fleshpounded.

KF2 looked like dogshit from the beginning and played even worse. Can't imagine why people have hope for 3.

>>715374523
that better be early alpha

>>715379174
idiot devs don't understand that fighting the recoil is part of the damned fun, it makes the gun feel powerful and makes you feel cool when you nail every headshot at full auto

>>715379276
>and played even worse
lol

>tons of supposed KF fans acting like this is the first they've seen of KF3
Uh huh, totally not just tortantic /v/ faggots that played KF one time 10 years ago

>>715368216 (OP)
fuck off yoshillo

>>715379236
>people don't play this decade and a half old game anymore so that means it plays worse
this is the dumbest argument you could possibly muster and zed spawns in 2 are the only factor you need to experience to say its objectively worse to play

>>715379324
Was I wrong? I played it when it first came out for like 2 hours before hopping back on 1 because my laptop at the time was shit. I played it 6 months ago with a group of friends and then went immediately back to KF1 to relive some memories.

tripwire just took an absolute shit and its visible as early as KF2
>DLC weapons have noticeably worse quality animations and handling compared to what shipped with the original game

>>715377925
REengine runs fine on most of capcoms library like RE, Devil may cry, Street fighter, etc. But when the engine needs to perform massive amounts of computations on a large asset filled map, it shits the bed. The engine was only built with RE7 in mind and was never intended to be used as a general catch all engine like Capcom did. They just got away with it because it just happened their other titles were also small rooms with barely any background computations going on.

>>715379234
How the fuck would that even make any sense
Why the fuck would you come up with this retarded fucking system

>>715368216 (OP)
I don't play games I don't own.

>>715379613
Lots of games do it but not that bad

>>715368216 (OP)
Oh shit, I think they only let you play for today for a couple hours right? I missed it and am going to bed now, can I play tomorrow or am I fucked

>>715379613
Other types of guns probably see an accuracy boost from ADS/crouching so they wanted people who play shotgun class to experience the same effect and this was the easiest way to do it

>>715379181
They didnt even know it was bad until the betas came out when people played it and said it was shit. They had complaints for months but ignored them thinking they knew better, until regular non forum dwellers said it was shit too

>>715374886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc

>>715379236
I played Killing Floor 1 years ago. You can suck my fucking dick.
Killing Floor 1 openly calls itself on the box a "co-op survival horror" and it shows - the zed designs are spooky, the levels have pretty heavy atmosphere, the gameplay is bloody and gritty, the survival horror element gets extra strong when you end up fighting in dark corridors or have to dash through a completely dark part of a level before the monsters show up
Then tripwire lost the plot with retarded neon weapons and continued it with Killing Floor 2 that threw away the horror in favour of epic badass metal co-op shooting xD while the devs only continued insisting on "scifi" shit and neon garbage

>>715379613
Modern Warfare ADS and its consequences etc.

>>715379613
>>715379874
I think it's good. Gives you a reason to use / not use iron sight

>>715379234
I would not be surprised if there were normalfags who think shotguns IRL deal like no damage past the range of a few meters and that aiming more carefully reduces the spread

>>715379613
Allows shotguns to be run and gun close range and short/mid range guns without requiring another weapon. In reality the shotgun should have the ADS spread or tighter at all times, but this is a video game that requires balance.

No reason to play this over Darktide
damn this genre turned to shit

>>715380063
>Allows shotguns to be run and gun close range and short/mid range guns
This doesn't require artificial spread control.

>>715380472
Darktide sucks

>>715379385
What kind of point are you trying to make nigger
Of course I already saw this piece of shit before

>constant random slowdown
How do you guys not find this annoying?

>>715379236
i know full well you're ragebaiting but going by that logic the remake of lilo and stitch is far better than the original

>>715368216 (OP)
Hard pass, looks like trannyslop

kek just one look at the perk menu and im already convinced the game is shit

>>715368216 (OP)
Ill save people the trouble, its bad guys, its super slow and super clunky, i was playing matches with just a pistol and running around kiting Flesh pounders like it was nothing.

They fucked up.

>modern tripwire
>still the gay scifi asthetic

No thanks

If anyone's playing that 'take a shot when an old established franchise gets fucked up' game, I fear for the state of your liver.

Whose dick do I need to suck for a lever action rifle? Why doesn't the sharpshooter have one?

I hate magazines in killing floor and was under the impression everyone else does too

>>715381379
YOu know what the ironic thing is? Everyone said that in KF2 they haded the scifi asthetic and did not like things like the edars and shit and it was way to futuristic.

So trip wire, as if summoning the power of the monkey paw, said "OK! Got it, no more edars, but have more sifi future aesthetics instead"

>>715379236
>You just saw that opinion in a youtube video
>Check steam charts
You are the stupidest motherfucker to ever exist.

>>715377813
abortion is murder you demonic kike

>>715374812
Ask him if they thought going against feedbacks to chase the mythical "wider audience" was the good choice? Also ask him if they really believed the killing floor name was still respected post KF1

Everyone should have given up on the series after KF2 shat the bed. The only thing I hope for now is an update to KF1s netcode to make it stop shitting itself and I'd be happy to just play KF1 for the rest of time.

>>715381594
>no more edars
No more edars YET

>>715381594
The funniest part is they tried to angle it like they were going back to their "horror roots"

>>715379236
>relies on muh steamcharts because he was too underage to have played KF1

Ok "lil bro", your mother did not let you play such a naughty violent game assuming you were alive at all zoomoid faggot

>>715378528
>coming post launch
then what fucking launch is that lmao

>>715381761
Nah devs said they removed edars i dont know where the post is now, but i had them directly respond to me on steam saying they removed them.
>>715381778
>Horror roots
>All of the guns are nerf guns painted black
>Missing the point entirely.
JFC.

>>715381840
>>715381628
>>715381029
>Bro KF1 is SOOOOO superior which is why more people play KF2!

>>715368216 (OP)
>it's another 'cult classic that became popular for being a good game but the devs got serious TDS in 2016 and the sequels are trash' episode.

no thanks.

>>715381029
ok, who is talking about lilo and stitch?

>>715368216 (OP)
>ruin kf1
>release shitty sequel
>release an even shittier sequel to the shitty sequel
Can't believe they haven't gone under at this point.

>>715381954
You got school tomorrow, kiddo

Will this be another case of game is shit but after 3 years they fix 10% of the issues people had from the start and an upsetting amount of people praise them for "turning it around"?

>>715382046
Math just ain't mathing unc

Is there seriously no text chat?

>>715381701
Yay more soldiers for Israël, also why do you care? You never gonna reproduce anyway and your ilk always mumbles whenever you are asked what do you do with unwanted kids

>>715382046
what time of year is it anon

>medic has limited healing darts
Gay.

I played a few games and just the basic act of running around and shooting zeds isn't fun anymore
Commando is really strong but the guns feel like ass even when they're doing the work
Engineer is total ass I hate his gimmick and I hate his gear
Gonna try the other classes next but my hopes are low

>play previous beta
>it sucks
"I wonder what they changed"
>try it
>it still sucks

lmao

>>715382323
Dont forget limited heals on your character, nor can you heal others.

>>715382626
Yeah and they acted like the delay was to reflect and apply the feedbacks. Seems like nothing changed

I still don't know if that thing is real or not https://youtu.be/pfwwTjr9_5M

>>715381874
After the game comes out?

>>715379168
>christian metal bands
Collapsing and This I Know are good tracks, I must admit.

>>715382724
the game comes out or a half-baked rendition of a potential game comes out?

>>715382720
Nothing better than shit that instantly ages your game.

>>715368216 (OP)
>loading shaders for 10 minutes
no thanks

Heres what they changed for the stress test
https://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php?threads/killing-floor-3-closed-beta-to-stress-test-changelog.2341867/

I dont know what fucking game I just played for 30 minutes but it sure the fuck wasn't killing floor. I can already see this game bombing

>>715368216 (OP)
I'm not even gonna bother downloading. Characters being tied to classes was already a bad enough sign but EVERYTHING else about KF3 seems to be even worse than I thought it could be.

>tripwire creates diverse characters to play as, each with their own distinct personality and looks
>not nearly as memorable as gas mask dudes and british soldiers that sound like grumpy bongs in their 50s

Is killing floor popular enough for a crowbcat video on it?

>Medic is a black man
I cannot do this.

>>715379174
where are this webms from i want to see the full video

>>715368216 (OP)
lol. lmao.

>>715379236
i'd still be playing 1 if it wasn't for the horrible hitreg, everything else just feels unironically better in 1.

I just assume that they haven't fixed a single thing since the delay.

>>715383517
don't remember it was during the first beta

>>715383818
The number 1 thing i miss from KF1 i wish 2 had, was that as you level up and prestige you start with your classes weapon. Fuck i miss that so much.

>boot up the beta
>take ten years to compile shaders
>various DLSSFSRDEI upscale bullshit options cover my screen in vaseline to provide me a playable framerate on UE5
>walk up to a terminal to try start a mission
>it's actually the battlepass fortnite microtransaction terminal
>15 quid for classic foster
>literally the first thing I've seen in the game
>find the right terminal and hop in a match
>no one is British besides Mr. Foster
>pick Devlin hoping she might be Irish at least
>she's a quirk chungus Californian
>genuine WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED style quips begin invading my ears
>shoot like 2 waves of zeds
>feels like shit
>uninstall right there and then
Videogames are actually beyond dead.

>>715384225
>genuine WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED style quips begin invading my ears
This shit made me mute the game and turned me off hard, fucking millennial writing.

>>715381954
cool post kid, but fortnite is better than both of them.

Is KF2 feature complete?

is the beta still up? these retards gave me access like an hour ago

>>715382720
can't believe how bad this shit looks, can anyone post the new beta?

>>715382720
netanyahu who? huh? eh? what is that supposed to be

>>715383339
Same, that is a game killer for me.

>>715368216 (OP)
It fucking sucks ass, looks and sounds WORSE than KF3. Absolutely terrible first impression.

The more retarded sci-fi the series gets, the worse it becomes. It's really sad
>KF1: Moody, scary horror
>KF2: Blue neon glowing labs, everything is super fucking clean
>KF3: whatever the fuck this disappointment is
I lost interest when they fired the people who gave a fuck about Killing Floor and never looked back, good to see it's for a good reason.
Just play KF1.

>>715385042
I'll play KF2 on KF1 maps thank you very much

>>715382796
Yeah they're not bad once you turn on lyrics but still, you can whole heartedly blame the Christian CEO for that portion of the game, not the fucking EDARs that were years after he had been ousted for daring to oppose abortion

can anybody exlpain to me why the fuck is kf2 almost 100+gb?

>>715385817
skins

>>715381756
I'm still salty KF2 map maker was such a buggy piece of shit prone to crashing. How the fuck did the actual devs create anything with that fucking app is a question I'll die before getting an answer.

I'm assume we ain't getting shit for modding/map making for KF3 which makes me just as butthurt.

>>715384225
>>715384303
epic!

>>715384225
>>715384303
Genuinely have no idea why motherfuckers STILL do this even when even normalfags started making fun of reddit writing
Worst thing is some shill will tell you british people being cocky while fighting freaky mutant monsters is the same thing as "ERM WHAT THE FRICK GUYS DID THAT REALLY JUST HAPPEN? ALRIGHT, I GUESS WE DO THAT NOW XD"

>>715368216 (OP)
>just installed the beta
>is not available at this time
>games close
whatever, didn't miss much as far as i can see.

>>715368216 (OP)
>its the payday3 situation all over again
called it

>you can buy items for the stupid award points you earn by playing but that doesn't give you the item it only "reserves" the item and you need to buy the premium battle pass to actually receive what you bought
>40€ game by the way
Into the trash it goes

>>715376675
stand still or I'll stick it where the sun don't shine

>>715385886
I remember the maps actually being stupid large

>>715386262
>payday 2 still btfo'd payday 3 player numbers
i hope nothing but pain for this industry

>>715385817
The reason I'm always uninstalling this pos

>Killing Floor 3
>still can't kill the floor

>>715377453
They always say "80s cold war gone hot", I've never seen anyone say "50s cold war gone hot" with all of the schizo postwar guns and vehicles that came before the kino period of Cold War technology

>>715386262
>payday 3 has better feeling guns and stealth
>almost everything else is worse
I don't get it

>>715379234
>FOUR guns for Commando
Jesus fucking christ where does all of the budget go if there's so little content and a complete lack of player freedom??

>>715378417
It aint lookin good hoss

>>715368216 (OP)
who the fuck would play this? they sucked the soul and identity straight out

>>715382720
If this IS real why are they making topical references for a game that takes place hundreds of years in the future
>But Fallout 2
It sucked there too

>>715379236
>being an apologist for 2
You're a shit eater.

>>715368216 (OP)
going to wait for KF 5. by then they will have figured everything out

>>715379236
KF2 deserves all the hate it gets for the rugpull they did with the survivalist class after all the promises they made, and then doubling down on the Zed Economy shit before even leaving Early Access. Tripwire can suck my fucking dick for that, and it's funny because I don't even remember whether it was them or PD2 which did the lootboxes in an unfinished game first to massive backlash only for the other devs to not learn a damn thing and do the same

>>715376748
Because they know it sucks, like the other guy said; they had to delay this game once already after a previous very, very negatively received beta test.

>>715382626
they tripled down. they only briefly pretended to listen after their preorder and wishlist numbers tanked. the class changes were universally reviled and they’re too jewish and retarded to do what people actually want. they’ve completely fucked themselves

>>715382264
keep projecting you kike
what fucking unwanted kids? less than 0,5% of kids end up in foster care, and guess what, majority of them non white, kids of immigrants dumped with no care literally make up a quarter of them
lets start killing all kids since some illegal invader abandoned his kid, fucking retard

Is payday 3 out yet

>>715374523
Why is the gun so bouncy?

>>715388360
do we tell him?

>>715376748
it's probably a screen left in from previous alphas/closed betas and they were too lazy/inept to remove it

>weapons still feel like pea shooters
>parkour shit lets you fly through the map and dodge everything
Why did they push the release back when they're not even changing stuff?

Is the beta still up? I thought it was just 4 hours

>>715368705
>UE5
That's all I need to know. Dropped.

>>715388985
They cancelled the downtime apparently

>internet is flooded with the first beta footage
>p-p-please no screenshots or recording of our new an improved game
>people will keep looking at the old beta footage when they search for KF3 gameplay
200 IQ marketing

You know a game is gonna be shit when reddit makes fun of it and when there is like 0 buzz on 4chan about it.
Like how bad does your game need to be for shitposters here to ignore it?

didn't they delay this shit for like 6 months
the fuck were they doing this entire time

>go into game
>lobby is now a level you walk around to select perks and loadouts
>pull up menu
>a long ass battlepass with like 20 pages of trash
>do 1 match
>beat boss
>bombarded with resource collecting, challenges completed, and other zoom zoom dopamine happy fun time mobile game type tactics

I've played other shitty service titles, but this franchise does not have the audience or will ever have the interest to attract that audience unless the game is simplified, fast paced, and full of garbage nonsensical collabs with IP like modern CoD or Fortnite.

>>715389642
Pissing in eachothers mouths

>>715368356
literally me

>KF was one of the GOATs
>KF2 was absolute dogshit
>KF3 is looking to be even worse
I'm glad that I was able to refund 2 when it came out of early access.

>>715389642
>>715383017

>>715389526
Does the game look THAT bad or is this guy playing on a 750ti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHrKfydcX8

The Zed visibility is fucking terrible. They all blend into each other

>>715378314
>CK3
>good
Are you a woman that only plays the Sims?

>>715368216 (OP)
This is a completely different game with Killing Floor slapped on the label

>>715389964
the unreal engine fog isnt helping either

>>715383948
You start with a class weapon in KF2 as well though?

FOX Engine was the best engine RIP

>>715389661
i'm going to find the house of the person who started the trend of premium currency in paid games and fucking strangle them
literally monetised like a free-to-play game with a £35 price tag, fuck that trash

>no server browser (matchmaking)
>no text chat
are these niggas 4 real?

>Pick Firebug
>Hear her annoying ass voice
>Uninstall instantly

>>715383032
the stop killing games guy looks pretty good when he has a stache
why'd he shave it?

>>715390521
kek

Why do shotguns feel like ass in this game?!

>>715390596
I don't know but I hate them
Engineer gunplay is absolute trash tier

UE5 was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INl8OXo09tM

>>715379276
This
Scrakes and Fleshpounds in KF1 used to be "OH SHIT!" moments, especially if you were playing with noobs who just show wildly into the crowd, but in KF2 you can reliably body/kite them without too much thought.

Ironically, getting fucking slammed by scrakes and FPs are some of my more distinct memories from KF, on London specifically. Just absolute horror when one pellet of your shitty T1 shotgun goes wide, activates the FP, and you HAVE to type "FP" in chat before booking it towards help.

>Shop requires currency you have to buy
>Some packs require more than you can buy
>So you have to buy certain amounts meaning you always have left over
This shit reminds me of microsoft points, they did the same shit.

>>715379613
A lot of games do it, unfortunately

>>715379613
Devs do that because they want you to use ADS but the regular gameplay of KF would actually be fine with hipfire on most weapons so they intentionally make it worse to force you into the playstyle they want

CRAFTING MATERIALS IN MY KILLING FLOOR GAME
AAAAAHHH

Why the dash and hero powers? Utterly pointless mechanics.

>>715391170
>>715391168
this game is like a chimera of every co op game released during the last 4 years

>>715391170
>every two minutes you can activate your shoulder-mounted subwoofer to blast enemies with soundwaves (does not make any cool sounds)
I hate it so much

>>715390871
Everyone does that now. It's designed to make you buy more stuff because they know people who buy into MTX are autistic about numbers being even so they always give you an odd amount of currency, forcing you to buy more until it evens out.

>>715389642
perfecting the battlepass and mtx probably

>>715391423
isn't that illegal in euoipe now

>>715388569
To pretend they did something

>>715368216 (OP)
Did they ever make KF II good? I played KF II and that was dogshit of the highest order. I remember for commando 2 perks did the same fucking thing, just worded differently, and checking back on it now, I think they changed what it used to be, but they still have essentially 2 versions of the same perk on that class.
>lvl 5 High Capacity Mags
>Increase magazine capacity of perk weapons 50%
>lvl 20
>Increase magazine capacity of perk weapons 100%
Exciting! You get 5 perks, and one of them might be the same perk! Who wouldn't want that?

>>715382978
You fucking jew KF was always full of you had to be there jokes. You only care now because you're a jew

>>715391994
>Did they ever make KF II good?
They made it worse

>>715390106
No i meant like, you can start with your T2 weapon in KF1 like support can start with a hunting shotgun.

>>715392120
>References to an old song are "jokes"
You're very bad at this lil zoomie.

>>715370024
that has literally been the case since KF1

i liked playing firebug in 2 cuz you could just shoot at the ground with fire and everyone would start blowing up. every other class blends together and wasn't that interesting besides i guess support and medic.

>>715391994
those two skills stack though
so you could go for 150% extra mag capacity if you wanted

anyone have the picture of the guy who tried to run from the fp but had his chat open so his last message is like "fp dddddddddssssssssssssdasdwdwsdsd"

>>715388261
>less than .5% of kids end up in foster care
alright, cool, that's only like, hundreds of thousands of kids! You sniveling little shit, using a percentage instead of an absolute number isn't going to fucking work

>>715392127
Amazing.
>>715392589
It doesn't matter that it's good. What I'm talking about is how fucking boring and creatively bankrupt it is to have a 10 skill system, with 5 skills selectable, and make 2 of these skills functionally identical. Yeah, it might be viable, but who the fuck is excited to hit level 20, and get the talent they got at level 5 again, you know? This doesn't matter so much when you have a 100 levels and a 100 skill points to spend on 500 skills (ish), but when you have 10 skills, it really stinks.

>>715392829
The world needs less people, not more.
We should absolutely gas 90% of children anyways since they will be a net drain on society as a whole.

this sucks lmao

>mfw I work at Tripwire and know of the shill campaign
>despite 4chan not being mentioned we the exact example of a thread from the presentation was made
Gabe fuck off my corner of the net. We both know this shit tanks and you might not be a gamer but I am and /v/ isn't for slop like this.

>>715378984
>crawlers finally walk on walks
well there's ONE good thing at least

>>715393251
my uncle works at nintendo and he said this is true

why are all these chuds uploading screenshots? dont they know they have direct orders not to?

heh, wtf
I tried to play and it says it's not available.

Made me install KF1 10/10

>>715368216 (OP)
a shame the franchise ended like this, but that's life

feels like "we can make even more money with even less developers and time!" being pitched to investors. sucks man.

>have time for a single game before they take the servers offline
>queen crawler completely up and disappears for 5 actual minutes in phase 2
>comes back and T poses mid air for another solid minute

I don't dislike the gunplay, it feels meaty and satisfying, some weapons feel less powerful than they look/feel like the Firebug revolver but that's nothing that can't be tweaked. The ZED animations are fine and I saw nothing wrong with them, much to the contrary I fucking love the new Husk attacks which have made them so extremely dangerous and prone to ambushing you.

But man, every single change of core game features and design philosophy is worse. Limited healing feels like shit, no universal multi-tool, no universal door welding, fucking D44M dashing what the absolute fuck man it feels like every ZED now has a ranged attack solely to justify this being a thing which only serves to make them less distinct from each other in the end.

Then the weapons. I never expected 480 frames of mocapped animation for every real life gun like KF2 did, but these OC weapon designs look so bad compared to the classics even if their animations are actually quite good and satisfying. This is not going to attract anyone to want to use them because looks are the first impression you get and the first impression looks extremely bland and uninteresting. Quite simply, these weapons have no style, and thus no appeal.

But all of this could be fixed, all of this could have actually been the best thing to ever happen to the franchise, and the game still wouldn't perform well for the simple fact that these characters are HIGHLY mediocre at best and utterly untolerable at worst, and they are fucking perk locked. Unless you want to only ever play 1/8 of the game's content, you're going to suffer the bad, the cringe, and the unappealing, and fucking nobody wants that shit.

This shit pains me because I can see myself having fun with the gameplay and shooting satisfying guns at targets that are satisfying to shoot, but everything else is inexcusable and the game will be stillborn because of it.

the game is so fucking ugly and blurry
theres ue5 and then there sheer incompetence

>>715374523
the faggots who made KF2 and 3 aren't even the same people who made KF1
they're just the people who happen to actually own the IP
and instead of going/continuing on KF1's grimecore horror, they made decided that the "technology" aspect behind the making of the Zeds was more appropriate, now fights occur in spotless lab facilities and modern cities instead of grimy or rusted buildings

It's looking grim for Killing Floor 3
They would need to discard or rework almost everything we saw in this beta to turn it into an actually good game
Very little from what I've seen ingame today made me want to play more, if I didn't hundreds of hours in KF1 and maybe a hundred in KF2 I would've uninstalled this beta after 10 minutes
And I've played several betas that were better than the final game ended up being which really makes my perspective on KF3 even worse

>Kernel Level Anticheat
>No text chat
>Classes locked to characters (that you may not like)
>Ultimates like fucking Overwatch
>Season Passes
>Ingame Currency

>>715368216 (OP)
imagine taking a franchise based on guns and replacing the stars of the show with shitty fake sci-fi blasters

>>715395325
how do I uninstall the kernel thing?

>>715392672
I'd recreate it for you with the beta, but kf3 doesn't have text chat

>>715396604
>kf3 doesn't have text chat

>>715391591
Nah, they have to show the equivalent IRL currency next to the MTX currency which was already the case for most games.
The only difference is that it's now subjected to refund and that's it.

>>715386774
All the new guns and operators are goin to be paid dlc, i hope the game does great so the world suffers a little bit more.

>damage control already underway in the steam discussion forums against any "negative" feedback
lmao

>>715378528
>post launch

DARKTIDE WON

>There are also a few known issues that the team is already aware of and working to resolve in our launch window (which could be post launch).
>(which could be post launch)

>>715397867
I kept trying to do dodges like in darktide and it literally doesn't work because the only time you can actually dodge is when you're standing/walking. Can't even dodge when in ADS.

>>715397867
Only took them 3 years

>>715397867
Vermintide*

What is keeping this company afloat these days?

>>715368216 (OP)
>SUPPLY PASS
>1,000 CREDS

Not interested.

>>715398568
A promise to investors that they will get their money this quarter, which is why they literally cannot delay the release any further or else the investors can sue them into financial slavery for the rest of their lives.

>hero shooter in fucking 2025
is literally every developer on the planet retarded and incapable of keeping a finger on the pulse? this shit is done and has been done for years. slapping "hero shooter" on as some kind of guaranteed profit is so ridiculously short sighted. see quake champions as a game that did the same thing thinking that "wow lets be hip with the kids and square quake 3 with overwatch!" and look how that turned out

>>715382802
yep thats launch regardless if its shit or not

>>715397867
its funny because the melee controls are entirely stolen from darktide

(speak spanish) still a thing in the beta?

>>715399693
(Speaking English)

>>715368216 (OP)
We can't talk about it, we signed an NDA!! Joking aside, the game isn't very good in terms of product quality, and not if you compare it to the previous installment. The gameplay seems to have gone backwards and plays worse than the second game. Some weapons, like the pyrotechnician's starter smg and the medic's beam weapon, are to me, awful when it comes to animation. And some weapons work well, to me, like the medic's smg, the pyrotechnician's shotgun though you have to be close for it to be effective, and the gasmask guy's starter assault rifle.

Skill animations for character abilities, particularly for the medic and pyrotechnician are janky and stiff. I would argue that some monster animations, like when you are grabbed by one, are awkward and stiff, and I don't think they should keep it.

Character voice lines are fewer, is not said as frequently and you barely hear what the characters played by your party members say. None stood out to me, but it doesn't matter to me, but it might, to someone else.

The maps still look very clean but some areas look great. With tools spread around for tactical use, it's neat.

I dislike the player hub quite a lot and I really wish they just let us do everything through the menu without having to go to a command center as your hub with stations for various things such as changing perks, looking at your armory or searching for a match. That's an opinion of mine, and if I'll be more objective it's a bit too large and none of the stations are well marked and I could not figure out where to swap characters outside of when you are in a lobby ready to enter a map. Skill issue on my end. I would also like to mention that you can access every station's menu from any stations through tabs, it works, but I would have liked for it to just be menus and without the hub.

>>715397867
never doubted

>>715368216 (OP)
Hopefully this beta will look better than the last one.

>>715368432
I dropped KF2 in like 2019, shortly after they added robots to my zombie shooter. I'm willing to give KF3 a try as long as they keep robots outta that bitch.

>>715400027
>I'm willing to give KF3 a try
actual retard

>>715394775
>I never expected 480 frames of mocapped animation for every real life gun like KF2 did
Why would you buy an objectively worse sequel? You are a moronic consoomer.

>>715400027
>as long as they keep robots outta that bitch.
doesn't make sense when every zombie now acts and shoots like the same robots from kf2.

>watch Payday 3 blunder itself to death
>replicate that same scenario years later

>>715400353
is it possible for payday 3 to unJUST itself or it's dead for good?

>>715368216 (OP)
shut the fuck up shill

>>715374523
and its always online please give us money

>>715400353
didn't some similar shit happen with payday 2 introducing paid skins or something and kf2 following right after

>>715400389
Not only is it possible, but its in the process of doing so. The problem with Payday 3's future is that we still have no idea if Starbreeze is committed to it until the end or if their new CEO is going to take the easy way out and go back to Payday 2 which he already has plans on releasing more DLC for.

>>715400474
See >>715387219

>>715400082
KF1 was an average indie game. if i approached it with the same attitude you're approaching KF3 with, i would've just kept playing L4D.

>>715400232
>doesn't make sense when every zombie now acts and shoots like the same robots from kf2
i actually thought that was a big strength when watching KF3 trailers, and wished KF2 had done that from the beginning instead of fucking up the visual profile of their game by suddenly having clankers everywhere.

>>715400196
Mocaped guns with the most expensive actors and motion trackers ever was never the thing that made or broke the KF games and its expenses are why later guns are literal reskinned copy paste jobs or have their animations looking like baby's first try at animating something.

>>715400663
>KF1 was an average indie game
And KF3 is fucking not. It SHOULD be approached like its on the same tier of expectation as L4D.

>>715400663
Nope. KF1 was charming, meme-y, and was one of the first vibey horror zombie horde games ever made.

Why are they quadrupling down?

>>715401259
funny

Literally why would anyone play this shit when you could just download black ops 3 and mess around with thousands upon thousands of mods and custom maps?

>>715401259
money

>>715374523
this looks like some random browser game you'd find in the early 10s

>>715401373
Wouldn't making a product people want be a better way to make money?

I remember joking about dual katanas with friends back with the first game...

>>715401259
they have either done thorough consumer research and believe if they sell the copies expect and the battle passes associated to these consumers they'll beat their costs.

..or this is a money laundering thing because who in their right mind is making yet another battlepass hero shooter

>>715374189
2's Alpha/Beta period was fun. But it gradually got worse over time because the ChristCEO wanted shit nobody else wanted.

Them pushing him out was a good thing, but sadly Tripwire without any direction has left it floundering.

>>715401259
The people that like KF2 are the people that spend a lot of money on microtransactions.

>>715401362
cod zombies gameplay is so outdated. fuck off.

>>715401259
Because KF2 was successful

>>715401259
They have to give investors the promised dividends THIS quarter or get sued into oblivion to the point of the company owners becoming indentured slaves to repay the debt+interest+damages+lie+ratio adjusted for inflation at the date of the contract signing but don't worry the government will subside the investor's money until its all paid back so the poor investor victims don't lose a cent over this.
They quite literally do not have the time to change the game's foundations and are obligated by contract to release it now or go into slavery. So the only thing they can do in this situation is try to quell the fire and promise that they're working on separating perks and characters first thing post launch.

>>715401551
Yes, but they clearly can't do that so they're just releasing something hoping a few retards will buy it.

>>715401939
>cod zombies gameplay is so outdated
in what way? do you need an objective and expositional dialogue every 30 seconds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq0JfSYN6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq0JfSYN6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq0JfSYN6Y
DO NOT BUY KILLING FLOOR 3

All it took for me is seeing the mecha sci-fi bullshit for five seconds in the first trailer of KF3 to turn the video off and never consider playing it again.

>>715401939
bootlickers like you can never explain what "outdated" means. quake is nearly 30 years old yet feels just as, if not more fresh than most modern fps. what gives?

>>715400752
KF3 looks like a pretty average indie game. i don't think it looks any worse than Darktide or Deep Rock Galactic.

>>715400770
so it was Reddit?

>>715392441
but at least it was brit bantz

>>715402821
https://www.reddit.com/r/killingfloor/comments/1lz7fvu/1st_time_huh/

>>715368356
russians completely killed my interest in dbd and csgo

>>715392341
ah i think i understand what you mean, but on the second game you have a wider array of weapons for each perk to choose from, so giving you a free T2 gun would render you OP at the first 4 waves and make you reach T3 guns before the first scrake arrive, i do understand what you mean but i disagree on this part giving the weakest gun of each perk is fine with me cuz you sell it and buy the next weapon on the first trader.

>>715376748
the game is rancid dogshit and if you see it in motion instead of specific, doctored images you will realize its rancid dogshit

>one of the final updates for kf2
>they removed the poison ammo for the medic class
>you can't hipfire and slowly grind husks and sirens and bloats anymore
>but hey at least your poison darts do 30% more damage (wathever that means)

>>715394370
queen crawler?

all they had to do was basically rehash kf2 but with a couple new zeds, new maps, new guns, and a better gore system
how did they fuck it up so bad, it looks like a knockoff mobile game

>>715405594
clearly you didn't see how bad their "new guns" started to look forward the end of KF2. they can't produce content that matched the quality of what KF2 launched with anymore. they had to move on because weapon animations and models from 10 years ago were shitting on their newest additions.

>>715402821
>open video
>some feminine furry youtuber
>nightreign tier list video
>raider in b
>duchess in a
preordered because of this video

>>715402821
>entire video is a static shot of the steam page
buy an ad

>>715406413
apparently this guy is a """"""""""big"""""""""""" >>>>>>darktide youtuber

>>715402821
not watching your gay video you faggot furry pedo

>>715386697
Uuuh
Vietnam?

>>715401362
Blops 1 was superior in every way. Too much assisting features and the game is so baby mode.

>>715386697
>"50s cold war gone hot"
Korean War?
I'd be down if I can be MacArthur and glass Beijing

>>715368432
They toned down the bri'ishness in the second game

Simply not playing another game that wants to monopolize my time with a battle pass. Not even PD3 thought that would be a good idea.

>>715379174
Are these new devs not....gun nuts I dare say?

>>715385817
Piss poor Audio optimization. I'm not joking.

>>715368216 (OP)
Cause KF is a game only homeschooled autistic spergs play

>>715397867
Crazy that a FatShart game managed to do that.

Is there anyway to play kf2 without the fucking robots?
An option, servers without them or mods, etc?
or even better, a way to depatch the game?

>>715405594
All they had to do was transfer the soul of KF1 into KF2's smoother gameplay

>>715408951
all the soul in tripwire died a long time ago

>>715368216 (OP)
>1,000 credits
I feel such a visceral feeling of disgust that this is considered normal in video games now

>>715368216 (OP)
>supply pass
>premium currency
>paid cosmetics
what a piece of shit looking "game"

Well anons.
Hypothetically you've been given control of the Killing Floor IP and have a surplus of money and a development team.
How would YOU make a KF3?

>medic
>Class known for always having a sissy playerbase
>stuck with some black dude
lol

>>715409923
Take the money and run because even if I faithfully remade KF1 with updated graphics, a fancy new gore system, new guns that fit the aesthetic of an apocalyptic London, and somehow made it so you got a blowjob from the Stalker IRL everytime you win the game, KF2 killed the community and Tripwire has gone from being a beloved dev to hated and as such, KF3 is never going to achieve the kind of success they expect or want.

>>715410170
>the aesthetic of an apocalyptic London
It's been years since KF1 and no games as far as i'm aware have attempted to recreate the grimy aesthetic it had.
What gives? Is that era of stylization just gone?

>>715410417
Thinking on it. The whackiest nonholiday map in all of KF1 is what? A rave?
Nearly all the ones I can think of are fairly mundane locations which go well with the grimeyness of the game as a whole.

YOU THINK THIS IS BAD? THIS CHICANERY, TRIPWIRE HAS DONE WORSE

>>715410417
Darktide attempted the grimy aesthetic, but obviously 40k is a far cry from the modern setting. I think it largely comes down to how the push for realism means that you would need a really good gore system to match the grindhouse aesthetic, which is both something that runs afoul of rating boards and also is technically challenging. KF1 got away with it because it was from an era where you were allowed to let player imaginations fill in the details that you're incapable of presenting, and KF1's grindhouse worked so well because it was paired with such good voicework that kept the mood light enough that it was creepy but didn't devolve into a horror game but instead felt more like you and the buds were staring in a campy film.

>>715410747
>A rave?
Even the rave was portrayed with a layer of grime and grit. Acting as one of the first locations stormed by zeds.
>Every Halloween a massive underground rave is held in an abandoned asylum, called the Disco Death March. This year they had a long list of DJs lined up, including DJ Scully. It was outside of London, but unfortunately for the party-goers a Fleshpound shows up to crash the party.

>>715411419
Yeah, was part of my point even the most out there portrayal is something that makes sense to exist and happen.

>>715408875
There's a mod on the Workshop that adds a Mutator that disables them.
>t. found this out after going through all the trouble of DepotDownloading the last version of the game before they added robots

Are perks still locked to specific operators?

>>715401362
Playing Black Ops anything reminds me of an era of life I cannot return to and makes me depressed.

>>715411727
At launch they will be, but they promise to change it later!

>>715411805
Fingers crossed behind their backs, I'm sure. Maybe they'll add a DAR that can be any perk, only way I could see them doing it without affecting their shop.

>>715411991
>Maybe they'll add a DAR that can be any perk
don't give them any ideas

>>715412060
It'll have the most annoying voicelines, of course.

>>715380472
Darktide sucks. It's a cool shooter if you wanna slay gun-wielding zombies, but the level, weapon, class, build, and cosmetic variety sucks fucking ass. It's all poorly lit, derelict hallways and corridors. The only enemies in the game that feel 40k-like are the Witch and the Chaos Spawn, both of whom only appear on rare occasions. Half the weapons recycle the same model and are only differentiated from one another by their fire rate. Darktide is hard carried by the soundtrack and game feel, but even game feel starts to fall apart after 40 hours of using asset flips of the same gear with different rates of fire. I put more hours into Vermintide 2, and I only played Kerillian.

>>715412171
>and I only played Kerillian
wish you put that at the start of you post, could have saved myself some time by instantly disregarding everything you said

>>715411716
any that disable the stupid glowing vs zeds too?
can't find either in workshop

I'm a reviewer and I don't want to spend money on this, tripwire is only going to send keys to dedicated shills like they did with the first beta

Let's make our own modern not-KF1 game to beat them. Come on guys, together we can poop out something better than this shit. Whaddaya say?

No commentary gameplay, watch it before tripwire axes this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3mPrx2LD_8

Yeah we'll pull a Hopoo and sell off the ip to Gearbox before running away with the cash while it nosedives.

>>715412427
How does that invalidate my criticisms of Darktide? I mentioned that to highlight the fact that there was more variety and fun to be had with a single Vermintide 2 hero than with all 5 Darktide classes combined. I might understand your dismissive attitude if anything I said sounded like, "this game would be better with Kerillian in it." But I didn't say anything even remotely close to that.

>>715412617
Would be great but something like a game coming from this hellhole of a site made of a collaborative effort is a once in a decade sort of thing.

>>715412683
>still the exact same shit but DARK now
bravo shitwire

>>715412783
Slight jest due to the notoriety of Kerillian players, but I honestly believe darktide is one of the best co-op horde shooters out there. For me, I can't go back to vermintide after playing darktide so much. I won't deny the flaws that darktide has but it combines melee and gun combat together pretty well in my opinion.

>>715413175
That's fair. The gunplay and melee combat are objectively very fun, and I suffer from the same symptom as you in that it's difficult to go back to Vermintide after sampling the improved mechanics of Darktide. I just wish the content surrounding it had as much variety as it did in Vermintide and get frustrated with FatShark for their approach to support.

I wish my PC could run Space Marine 2 at high settings, so I could try their new Horde Mode.

why would anyone be stupid enough to buy KF3 after the disaster that was KF2?

>>715413727
Zoomers don't have object permanence. Once an internet 'personality' shows them it they'll feast and eagerly look forward to the battlepass.

>>715413727
Killing Floor 2 was straight gasoline from April 2015 (beginning of Early Access) to June 2018 (EDAR update) if you liked horde shooters and gun porn.

>>715413727
KF2 at least felt like a really good shooter
fuck the dancing zeds
fuck the mtx
fuck the robots

meanwhile KF3 feels like shit from the ground up

>>715377813
>if i call him a manchild itll make it sound like hes wrong
nice try, but nah

>>715377453
>Now the studio said it has raised partial funding for its ’83 title, thanks to money from an angel investor on the company’s Discord channel. The money came in after 18 months of pitching industry funding sources.

oof. grim.

the game is just so ugly
cant wait to see the credits full of indians

Just reading more and more reviews of people saying it's decent. It's over outrage addicts, the bloomers won the battle. The game is fun.

Is this game going to have microtransactions, lootboxs,.battlepasses, shit like that?

Why woulkd I try KF3 when I can just keep playing KF1?
I can still easily find full servers on my third world country.

>>715416118
yes to all to those

>>715415567
>wolfenstein difficulty settings

>>715375534
skill issue lmao

>>715381954
yup now we're thinking! league of legends is the best game ever made and the avengers movies are some of the greatest films of all time : )

>>715373205
>it's not the game old /v/ used to love
Of course not, old good, new bad.

>>715374886
bro i still play with my friends all the time, drop steam and ill add

>>715374812
With the way these big studios are run, odds are he and most other devs there have no authority over game design decisions at all. No way the common coder gets real input compared to the suits on wether it should be an Overwatch clone

Sadly I missed the second beta, but if /v/eddit hates it this much it's guaranteed to be good. It's a buy on release for me.

Trolling the 4channelers epic style...

>>715368432
i started playing helldivers

>>715368216 (OP)
>lets slap COD apex gameplay into a PVE horde shooter!
they should realize faster modernized gameplay doesn't mean its good for these kind of PVE shooter like back4blood
helldiver2 was slow af feels inconvenient and deliberate, you get ragdoll killed by bullshit all the time and theres a good reason why its still more popular and fun than this slop

>>715368432
After 500 hours and maximum prestiging every perk, there just wasn't much left to do.

>>715418639
Hope you mean 2, the idea of maxing out every class in KF1 sounds like a Herculean ordeal

>>715383537
>anti-cheat for a fucking co-op game.
Man they arent even trying to hide the fact their about to pump this fucker to the brim with MTX huh?Not that its surprising or even new but at least the previous installments had a decent fucking games beneath them. I miss the golden ages boys.
I'd feel bad for modern gamers if this type of shit werent exactly what they actively play and spend money on.

>>715384225
Can anyone confirm if that fucking netanyahu line is still in the game or did I hallucinate that when the last round of leaks came out.

>>715392441
you retarded zoomer, kf1 banter is not the same as this garbage written by female

>>715419530
KF1 "banter" is just marvel quips for boomerlennialls.
>hehe, le funny bong things

>>715419849
all humor is artificial

>>715368705
UE5 is the dark souls of game engines

>>715419849
this is one of the quips in kf3 by the femaly pyro after you kill the exploding fat zombie

>well that was oddly satisfying, like those pimple bursting videos online...

>>715368356
>Decide to buy Rematch because I like football and Rocket League
>Cool game
>Hop on ranked with randoms because my friends don't like footy
>Arabs, frogs, ruskis and sometimes Brits
>kms

>>715420390
how does playing with arabs feel?

>>715420135
Yeah and if that line was voiced by a middle-aged british man and in old game you'd say it's peak comedy.

>>715395325
>>No text chat
is this real

>>715420801
yes, no text chat, and no voice line commands

>>715402821
why does this guy sound like a girl

>>715420871
It's a troon.

>>715420835
I don't believe it. It must be a beta-only thing. There is no fucking way they would release a coop game with NO chat. And no voice commands too.

>>715421026
Sadly yet another way consoles are ruining gaming.

The beta in January was absolute dogshit and I doubt they've unfucked it since

>>715407376
this. I can always hear some of the lines in my mind
plus look at this aesthetic, look at the UI. they never managed to recreate it and I hate the new look

I was thinking... Pic rel pretty much garantees there's some people willing to "defend" a shitty game to farm this kind of attention, do you think it fooled excs into thinking they would always have people willing to defend and buy their shit?

>>715402821
this guy has always the worst opinions and the only good ones on darktide were fed to him by his sycophant, he's the piratesoftware of coop gaming. Good lolcow tho

>>715421497
They didn't look at KF fans when they designed this one, they looked at Overwatch fans, because that's clearly a much bigger audience

>>715421562
is there anything that has done more damage to gaming than the "wider audience"? Besides lootboxes

aren't there a billion mods for KF1 and it runs really well? anons should just popularize the first game again

>>715420441
desu same as the others. Everyone is an insufferable count. The most annoying ones are russians and brits. The former because they speak russian, the latter because the only thing that they do is make fun of ESLs while they have the most goddam awful scouse accent possible.
Also everyone overstimates how free they are to receive a pass, yesterday two dudes were complaining that I didn't pass the ball when I was the player with more passes, both were brits

>>715421540
Broken clock something something

>>715422004
he's talking about the general consensus here, he got kicked out of Darktide by pretty much every media for how much of a twat he is

>>715422073
Negro I know who Tranner is, doesn't change the fact that he's right about KF3.

>>715421562
>>715421594
I guarantee you that you would have not given the game a shot even if it was a carbon copy of kf1. You faggots love to hate and will find any excuse to not give it a try and shit on a game. Kf3 is thought further from what if the previous game but more advanced. Its features are what you would expect from a game released today.

>>715422113
then chef even the broken clock argument is useless here knowing the troon !

>>715412171
I kinda agree. Darktide is still a great game but VT2 has more soul and the varied levels and great character banted makes it better. Its a shame they couldnt think of anything other than grey corridors for a fucking 40k game.

>>715422113
When you find yourself agreeing with a troon, maybe it's time to take a step back and think about what you're doing.

>>715422145
Oh... you're brown. Move along.

>>715422139
>I guarantee you that you would have not given the game a shot even if it was a carbon copy of kf1. You faggots love to hate and will find any excuse to not give it a try and shit on a game
TRVKE

>>715420491
Nta but yes, middle aged british chaps have sovl. Great voice acting can in fact carry dogshit dialogue

>>715422186
>troon: water is wet
>chuddie: NOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>715422329
>using chud

Still playing KF1 every few months

>>715422226
truth nukes are supposed to be true though

>>715422510
He ain't wrong tho

>>715422139
>>715422226
Would be a lot more interested in KF3 if it was more like 1.
Hero slop alone puts me off it.

>>715401362
>black ops 3
isn't this one of the versions that has RCE exploits just from going online or was that another version?

>>715422556
>Would be a lot more interested in KF3 if it was more like 1.
But what's the point? You already have KF1. It already has all the things you want. Why should the devs make another game like that, and why would you pay for something you already have?

>>715422420
>triggered by chud

>>715422651
You understand a sequel can build on the foundation of the previous right? You don't need to change everything about it each time.

>>715422556
say it with me 4 GUNS per class

>>715422736
Beyond just better graphics: how would you like them to do that?

>>715422893
New maps, new enemies, new weapons etc.
There's a lot that can be done while keeping the core identity from 1.

>>715422976
Ok so you basically just want DLCs for KF1.

>>715423092
Not necessarily, like I said you can do stuff while maintaining the spirit of it. KF3 looks to be going too far away of what I liked in the series and feels like something else.

>>715423318
Buddy it's so cloudy what you say.

>>715422651
you're the kind to defend concord and hyenah as games "not meant for you"

>>715380472
>>715380603
>>715412171
I agree but they went out of their way to make this game LIKE DArktide

>>715423589
It's pretty straightforward really. KF3 is too different to what I perceive as the core identity of KF so I have literal interest in it.
If it was more similar to what I like about the series I would be more interested.
Not very complicated.

>>715422651
All of the remakes and remasters show that there is an audience who's quite happy to pay full price of a new game for a visual update and minor QoL changes to a beloved game.

>>715423665
where the epic musics, the meaty melee combat? The guns roaring?

>>715424027
I didn't say they succeeded but they definitely tried with the mission hub, the hero characters, etc

>>715422650
yeah, but as far as I know, you can download community patched exec

>>715380472
Did Darktide ever fix the problem where you just log in every hour hoping the gun in the store is good?

>>715424382
Yes.

>>715424382
yeah now it takes a long time to grind weapon XP

>>715424434
Oh neat, might give it another go.

>>715423681
You just made some lose points that can be applied to either game and nothing specific. It boils down to feels over matter.

>>715421562
Overwatch is still a thing?

>>715424585
And? The original claim is that I wouldn't play KF3 if it was more like 1 and I explained why that is wrong.

>>715368216 (OP)
I'm not loading this shit, but I've got one question for the people in: Is there anything as cool as Mr Foster yet?

>>715424978
no. its all diversity mutts and and/or female

>>715424850
And you just gave unspecific points that can be applied to anything. It's a weak argument and totals again to you would not give the game a shot regardless. You won't get out of this position unless you specify what exactly you want the game to look like. It's rage for the sake of rage.

>>715424382
Yeah it's one of few things that's actually better now. One you roll a weapon with the base stats you want (which is far more streamlined now) you can mod it with whatever blessings and perks you need

>>715423318
To each their own. Personally I think such shallow changes as you suggested would be rather uninteresting.
As far as new enemies go, they did kind of do that in KF3, or rather change the enemies in such a way that they provided a somewhat new challenge, thinking mostly about the siren and husk, to some extent the scrake. But people shit their pants in anger at this. Same thing with EDARS, but they honestly just sucked so the criticism was warranted there.
Then there was something as simple as adding sprint in KF2, or even worse: being able to jump over a table in KF3. "Fans" had a complete meltdown over this. And modifying weapons instead of just pressing a button that makes them stronger? Oh heavens no, what horror!
I don't like everything they did with KF3, but the 3 things mentioned above I think are massive improvements that just make the game more fun, a lot more than a couple of maps or weapons would.

>>715425102
Yes it can be applied to anything because that's how preferences work.
It doesn't interest me because it lacks what I like of the previous, if it was more like what I liked of them, I would be more interested.