How do you save Battlefield 6?

Make it like bf4

>>715429032
But I already have BF4
Why would I buy it again

>>715429032
Then give it a WW2 skin

Don't make it like bf4

>>715429101
Almost forgot to add FACTION SPECIFIC weaponry
Can't believe what they pulled with BF5, it was a disgrace

>>715428649 (OP)
by playing Delta Force

>>715428649 (OP)
The game isn't even fucking out yet, I don't think we even have a release date, and we're already talking about how it should be saved? This series is so fucking cooked. it has never been more over than this

All guns Locked to specific rolls, Limit to how many rolls can be in a match.
But to the Dice employee ITT, even if you did this I wouldn't buy it anyway, but the faggots still buying your slop deserve better.

>>715428649 (OP)
server browser
no named characters
no microtransactions
large arsenal of real world weapons
128 players with large maps that don't suck
more than 2-3 tank slots for each team

I will now buy your game

>>715428649 (OP)
By liquidating EA.

>>715429356
>All guns Locked to specific rolls
Uhmmm can you stop being so jaded chuddie? It's not 2011 anymore

>>715428649 (OP)
>Bring back destructible buildings
>Bring back Levolution
>More vehicles
>Be more grounded and realistic (I don't want Spec Ops or colorful faggots that say shitty marvel quips every 5 seconds. I want normal soldiers)

>>715429324
>The game isn't even fucking out yet
DICE has been incapable to make a working multiplayer FPS since battlefield v or bf1 depending on who you ask, what makes you think it will be different this time?
>I don't think we even have a release date
didnt' some exec confirmed they are targeting physcal year 2025 which ends in march/april next year or something
>and we're already talking about how it should be saved?
there have been plenty of red flags so far: wohmen screaming, retarded UI and so on, knowing DICE if you saw any leaks then it's the final game
>This series is so fucking cooked
always has been lil bro, an ex-DICE employee said that internally they are just jelly of cod and execs want it to be more like cod aka infinite money glitch because normies flock to it like mosquitos on a pile of shit
>it has never been more over than this
yup

>>715429739
>waaaaaaah, Assault shouldnt rely on teammates for anything waaaah
what a faggot
It's kd 5+ shitters like him that want open weapons, because they want to farm noobs with other guns than ARs, yet they don't want to lose ability to self-heal

>>715429931
>another retard incapable to understand someone else's perspective and that some people process things in a different way
uh, yeah? that's the whole point anon
you are forgetting that we are talking like top 1 percentile of players on each time usually at the top of the scoreboard, the rest in the +-1SD are regular people that just want to play the damn game however they want, it has always been like this in multiplayer games

make it optimized for us poor people
i expect it to play it on my 2070 med/high 1440p

>>715428649 (OP)
Remove jumping from the game. Running speed 0.8x. Add camera & physical barrel sway (bullets go off center) when flicking mouse/stick, to fuck up the esportfag twitch streamer tranny zoomies.

You need to stop making shooters over animated dogshit that nerfs everything fun for hardcore streamers.

Make a lower fidelity arcade shooter with snappier controls, make classes more reliant on needing a full squad, (yes including a sniper as a spotter), and lower animation times from “realistic” to “what’s necessary for gameplay feel”.weapon unlocks are great but not when every weapon feels like the same zipzip bullshit, Battlefield is best with wacky feeling vehicle battles and overwhelming firefights, not this wanna-be nuCOD dogshit

>>715429214
they already started adding coomer skins to delta?

These games are the stupidest normie shit.

>>715430045
They don't play the game, they specifically play TDM with friends and game the system by getting revived any time they die. DICE has a bad habit of listening to these retards, same with the vehicle whores that cry their eyes out if they can't go 180-0 every round.

>>715428649 (OP)
Just remake battlefield 2 but with proper hitboxes this time. And 128 player servers (and thus expanded maps)

>>715428649 (OP)
You dont, you just play bf2/bfbc2/bf3/bf1/bfh ignore the rest.

>>715429324
The alpha last month was so ass the game played like a call of duty and not like a battlefield
Not to mention the retarded class choices too
Thank God I got invited for kt because it managed to kill my hype for that game

>>715428649 (OP)
Get rid of operators and go back to classes.

>>715430416
>bfh
uh oh

>>715429324
whoever is working at dice now doesn't like to listen to any form of criticism so the game is going to be shit until ea starts trying to claim heads and the will end up decent at best

>>715430261
>DICE has a bad habit of listening to these retards
except they don't? if they were listening to adderall streamers cheating faggots the game would be excruciatingly difficult to play for a normal non-autistic person
this is an arcade multiplayer fps intended for the masses, just because some uncs can't keep with fast movement it doesn't mean that zoomers (gaming has always been a hobby targeting males in the 16-35 range) wouldn't enjoy it

>>715429032
Just use BF3/BF4 as template - reskin it, fix the netcode, dial back worthless overtuned "balance changes" and incentivize teamplay instead. Also remove EA and nu/DICE from any and all creative decisions making.

That's it. That's all it takes.

Make Bad Company 3

there

>>715430913
this but add Groza-1 and 4

>>715430719
They do, look at every game since DICE LA took over BF4.

>>715429356
>but the faggots still buying your slop deserve better.
They don't. If you're buying EA games in [current year], then you are inagentic demi-sentient debtcattle -- you don't deserve better, because you couldn't recognize "better" to begin with. You consume slop and that's the entirety of your existence's purpose. You're a bipedal (meta)physical, spiritual and moral landfill.

>>715430261
Yeah from what I've noticed most of the people who defend universal weapons are either dumbasses that got filtered by classes having tradeoffs, or "competitive BF e-celeb players" or associates that only play on specific maps or gamemodes where they get to inflate their Battlelog/tracker stats by using the best guns and class that heavily favors their playstyle, like playing Assault in Locker BF4 with the AEK, or playing Medic ZK-383 in Devastation/Marita/Operation Underground in BFV, or using the SFAR/PP-29 with Falck or Mackay in 2042 maps like Redcated and Haven (or Breakthrough since the map layouts are smaller compared to Conquest).

>>715429813
>DICE has been incapable to make a working multiplayer FPS since battlefield v or bf1 depending on who you ask
since bf2***

>add stamina meter
>have medic as a separate class
>remove vehicle auto-heal
>remove weapon/player skins or atleast have an option to not display them
>remove 3d spotting
>limit amount of flares in the air vehicles
>more destructible environment

>>715429440
all this. dedicated servers solve a shit ton of problems with modern BF and gaming in general, but they don't want to put in the effort then will wonder why people think its bad

>>715431391
you forgot remove fun

>>715429032
Proximity points team system. Body armor only recharges when you are close to each other by SL resupply click of a button. Health is the responsibility of the medic and damage recharge weakens through battle. Ammo is a resource granted only through visiting objective points. Vehicle meta is defined by good maps and AT is available to 2 CLASSES. I can't stress this the fuck enough. AT and Anti Air should be supported by build able TOW emplacements as well which is a Team Leader choice. This also applies to construct able MG positions.
Functioning units and a team support system should be the meat in the next battlefield. Tank SL means a specified Tank slot is request able due to team performance at will via points spending. It means more areas can be mined using Squad abilities. Radar Drones requested for Assault squads. Counter UAV requested as well. Just take the commander abilities to Squad Lead level. Respawn should also be bound to points and vehicles. A drop ship that occurs via SL voting and a special vehicle unit that isn't worth shit point wise but allows mass spawning to occur with a decent cool down. No spawning off team mates out of the fucking air.

>>715430995
what's wrong with it anon, if an average 0.5kd person can play and have fun then it's retard-proof
>>715431389
are you like 60 years old or something

First of all it has to have console appropriate graphics because currently it has PS3 graphics
Second, the game has to be a serious war simulator. If I was at Dice I would just watch Ukraine v Russia war (biggest modern war) footage and emulate it into a video game.

>destructible walls like Bad Company 2
>Destruction 2.0 like Bad Company 2
That's it. I feel like they tried so hard with realism that they realized that type of destruction is kinda dumb and unrealistic. But holy shit was it fun. Destruction 3.0 from Battlefield 3 is one of the biggest downgrades I've ever seen.

Destruction is such a meme, refractor gmaes didnt need it to be good

>>715431440
but DICE already did that

>>715431391
auto heal should apply to objective points this encourages armor to stick to protecting an objective.
stamina meter no lol, if anything the slide should have an animation penalty at the end of it standing up stationary and thats it
everyone should have access to heals but the effectivness worsens without medic class or point objective healing.
3d spotting should be a team leader recon class specific trait.
air vehicles just need to be punished for fighting closer to an enemy objective with things like AA emplacements being constructional. TOW, MG, AA, Mortar Pits should exist and contructible anywhere but revealed on the map after a minute or a UAV request. Honestly just lets SLs have more interesting options to determine the flow of the game because brainless idiots will play like they always do.

>>715431616
Destruction is good when the walls and paths you open up have purpose. DICE have not made one game mode or map where this purpose is justified. BC2 had great push maps. Like some of the best shit ever in gaming and at times you would want armor to blow the fuck out of everything just to let your team contest towards the next cap.

>>715430045
>the rest in the +-1SD are regular people that just want to play the damn game however they want
These two goals are directly in opposition to each other. By playing a game your are choosing to subject yourself to the rules of the game instead of doing whatever you want
The restrictions ARE the game
>that's not a valid knight move
>JUST LET PEOPLE PLAY HOW THEY WANT
People don't want to do whatever, they want to play a good game. So the design goal of a game is to make it good, not to let you do whatever you want. In a multiplayer game, that means taking into consideration how what you're allowed to do impact others. A cheater flying around headshotting everyone is having fun "doing whatever he wants", but it's a net negative on the fun everyone else is having.

>>715429440
You've basically described modded arma reforger
Arma 4 will be out around the same time as battlefield 6 and that will be a much more fun game

>>715429214
>women
No tacticool generic goons, me no play.

>play the alpha
>that lowass ttk
Hope they change it or else this crap is just another cod or counterstrike

All you have to do is solve the map and respawn mechanics within the map. Battlefield 2 had large maps and wide spread objectives so it made sense to have spawning on top of the SL or gadgets since team work would allow you to push through those different environments. The most recent BF games have made those environments narrower and more choke points with lack of back streets and flanking opportunities, really bad fucking designs when a city feels like streets and not the threats of certain buildings that could be occupied.

>more ww1 with a bf1 sequel
>try a cold war setting
>try sci-fi but do it right
please just don't do modern day again

>>715431930
No you don't get it, I didn't mean "do whatever you want" as in literal sense you are free to do anything you can imagine.
If people want to camp on their base or avoid playing with the most efficient builds like meta-fags do they are free to do it, the game doesn't punish them (like a real competitive game would for instance), because it's an arcade game.
There are no specific rules like play the objective or else, be a useful teammate or else and so on. You can drive in a tank in circles the entire game doing nothing and still win.

>>715431986
This, I dont get how devs dont see that people WANT faceless goons, the problem is that they dont offer enough customization for it, just copy Insurgency or ARMA. Have cosmetic slots and give each side a bunch of cosmetics specific to their faction, if you must do DLC have them be cosmetic packs which you can use to take parts from to customize with.

You dont need shit that doesnt belong in the setting you just need a better cosmetic system. Theres only 2 factions this time aswell, it would be easy to do. This is the one thing that Im waiting to see if they got it right in BF, if I see that its either everyone is clones or its just about equipping skins then Im avoiding it, I know where its going. Its still DICE EA for fuck sake.

>>715428649 (OP)
Battlefield 4.5
No vehicle teleportation
Vehicles get finite ammo like infantry, vehicles have to resupply at base
Region locked lobbies as an option to reduce lag

>>715432342
If the devs want people to play the game "properly" all they need to do is increase the points you get for doing objectives and using support skills. If people want to score whore and be at the top of the leadboard, then they'll have to do objectives and inadvertedly work as a team. Maybe something like getting more points when you're within x distance of your team members. It's easy to manipulate people man. If they want to camp away from the objective, sure let them, but make it so they can't top the leaderboards and sooner or later they'll change the way they play.

>>715429032
first post worst post
Battlefield 4 was trash, zoomer

Make recoil much stronger so semi auto is actually valid instead of full auto even at long range, so people don't die fucking instantly. If you need to justify it make a future setting and say guns need to be super powerful to defeat super strong future armor.
I guess there'd be a lot more things that need doing but I'd just like it if the game had less full auto spamming people.

>>715428649 (OP)
In BF games, do people actually play in teams of 5 as they should and stick together or do they just go solo like in COD?

Series is infected with cod niggers since 1, arguably bc2
you can't save it

>>715432954
in bf1 we stuck together and the leader of the group could target points to capture and you got a point bonus for following orders.

why should I play battlefield over battlebit?

>>715433037
Battlebit is dead since the devs abandoned the game.

>>715433037
fotm streamerbait

>>715432572
bf4 customization is more than enough (camo) everything that changes the shilouette of the enemy, which doesnt give you info (e.g. insurgency backpack size), can fuck off

>>715433034
How do you pick a leader group? Highest level?

You shouldn't be able to take the best weapons and the best gadgets at the same time. It's a team game. You shouldn't be allowed to be the best at everything. I get that a lot of people don't want to play a team game and do want to do everything themselves, but that's not the point of Battlefield. It's meant to be a team game. If they want to make a game where you don't need to work as a team then give it a different name.

https://www.bf2hub.com/servers
https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/servers/
https://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/

>>715433337
just whoever joined the squad first or made the squad, you chose one when you enter. The leader also had a whistle instead of "go go go" in bf1. If the leader did no orders for a few mins it would cycle to someone else

>>715433037
Battlebit plays and feels like shit, why play the imitation when the original is still alive?

>>715433142
it was hilarious when Battlefield 2042 went on sale to be cheaper than Battlebit

>>715430841
This. Bad Company 2 was by far the best bf

>>715433619
maybe on planet console

Set it in 70s or 80s, no toy gadgets bullshit. And make it look convincing. No stupid customization either. The game should look consistent in terms of representing the set period of time.

>>715429032
Eh;l, that or BF1
I don’t care if people hate BF1, the class system was the best
Even the biggest shitskin eventually figured out that medics are importsnt for pushing/support for ammo/assault for armor
I guess there were some troll recons but that’s to be expected
In BFV and 2042 I started to notice people play less as a team. Maybe because everyone could revive, meaning that some people just never revived. Ever. Fuck that system, it ruined battlefield.

>Modern devs have to rely on player feedbacks and surveys to get Battlefield right whereas OG devs singlehandedly made good BF games in the past because of their autism and love for the genre.

just make Squad but fun and on a non-dogshit engine

>>715434354
>squad but fun
it's called Project Reality

Debunk THIS.
Pro tip: You can't
https://youtu.be/pZHmU3qbkGg

>>715435053
he is mad because assault has to rely on others now

>>715435196
If they don't revert medpens then he's going to play Support for self heals + ammo anyway.

>>715429032
fpbp
/thread
I've been asking for BF4 for years and all I've gotten is crap. That being said i haven't tried the open beta for Labs. So i have yet to form an opinion.

>team killstreaks
>when each side reaches a certain amount of points the whole team can vote between three killstreaks
>this can happen 3-4 times during a match, depending on how many points a team gathers

that, and i want more realistic tanks with a player required for each role
driver, gunner and spotter

>>715435440
this

>>715435440
>driver, gunner and spotter
Pretty sure only Red Orchestra 2 was the only sort of combined arms game that did that. Which is why it was a great game.
I don't know 83' is going to be with vehicles, but there's a potential chance it will make it into that one.

>>715435835
hell let loose does tanks like this as well

What really showcases how idiotic BF players is that while advocating for class-locked weapons they are all begging for fucking *BF4s* system. I dont feel strongly about it either way but if you're going to class-lock weapons you OBVIOUSLY need to follow BF1s formula, with ARs going to the Support class (some of the MGs from BF1 basically were ARs). Pistol carbines should be a seperate category that function as lole an SMG version of the marksman rifles (still semi auto, but better hipfire, lower range and slightly higher average RoF)
So:
Engineer is SMG/Shotgun (Bf1 assault was engi)
Medic is marksman rifle/pistol carbine only
Support is LMG/AR (Bf1 support was assault)
Recon is Sniper/marksman rifles and maaaybe pistol carbines too for more aggressive recon options

>>715436542
If a modern setting stocked pistols wouldn't exist so you'd be making medic the marksman rifle class, and that seems weird. May as well just have him share SMGs/shotguns with engineer.

>>715437018
Why is that weird? Medic occupied that space in BF1. It makes sense because they're supposed to be a class that stays behind the frontlines and reacts to frontline teammates dying and taking damage. It's a sort of backup class in ideal situations. Pistol carbines could still exist I think but I agree you do have to stretch the believability a bit. But they do fulfill a decent niche. They'd give a bit more variance to medic's range of engagement

>>715437196
How are you meant to stay behind the frontlines and also help the people on the front? You need to be with them. Just give them close range guns. That way they also lose to assault (you call it support, but your version is the dedicated killing people class so it should really be called assault) or recon at longer range which is fair and balanced.

>>715428649 (OP)
Go back to 1942 or 2 at the least but that won't happen.

>>715433256
BF4 was fucking garbage because the shaders were a shitshow
You couldn't even tell what camo the black blob you were aiming at was wearing beyond 20 metres

>>715437430
Marksman rifles in BF1 at least were good at mid to long range. 'Behind the frontlines' only entails that they dont push the chokepoints as hard (which is what assault, (you rightly say support should be called assault in the scenario i presented)) and are there to heal and back up retreating assaults/engineers. Theyre still solid combatants with only real weakness at very short range, just not as effective at jack-of-all-trades gameplay as assaults.
To be honest though I dont think it makes or breaks the game to have the Medic be either more like BF1 or BFV, but BF3/4s system of giving them entirely exclusive access to heals, revives *and* the best overall weapon class was stupid. I'm honestly contemplating that giving ARs to engineer might be a good idea too since SMGs and shotguns would work well on Assaults. But it doesnt really matter since BF6 will have no class locking

>>715430152
only good suggestions itt

>>715428649 (OP)
>Deuce doubling down on the class debacle
You can't.

>>715428649 (OP)

>Announce it with a teaser trailer set to this music:
https://youtu.be/J1w73s4WvuU?si=kdeS8V1kGfnuHosv

>Two factions are Nod and GDI. Cosmetic customisation is thematically appropriate, but you only ever play as a generic soldier guy. Not Kane, not shepard, not havoc etc.

>Three different eras represented. Some maps are OG balkan war era stuff. Some are tiberian sun, and some are cnc3 era.

>The only DLC they sell is a red alert expansion, where the factions are the Soviets and the allies.

Basically renegade but in modern frostbite engine, and with refinements to gameplay.

Call it Battlefield: Tiberium

>>715428649 (OP)
Bro it's over

>>715428649 (OP)
All females heroes/operators class system with quirky voicelines

make it like bf1942

>>715435424
>ask for bf4
>get bf4

>>715438005
>BF3/4s system
That's actually been going on since 2. 2 gave medic the same rifles as assault so assault became redundant unless you really loved grenade launchers. And then they noticed nobody was playing assault for some strange reason, so they combined the classes into medsault for 2142. And then kept that for 3 and 4.

>>715429440
Basically this
>>715434302
>have to rely on player feedbacks and surveys to get Battlefield right
EA's just pretending anon. They don't care about giving players what they want, just the appearance of doing so

>>715428649 (OP)
make it the best parts of BC2 and BF4 then combind them into one game
Kill air faggots and stop letting them go 90/0
kill tank faggots and stop letting them go 40/0
give on foot people a better way to deal with air faggots and tank faggots

>>715430152
this + lone wolf niggers who don't ptfo should get revealed through walls like an outline or ping to let everyone know they're a codfag trying to flank for epic target switch kill montages

>>715428649 (OP)
I don't think you can. 32v32 squad shooters are a relic of the past and difficult to monetise without tearing down the essence of the game, as we saw with 2042. The best you can expect from a battlefield game now is some bf/cod hybrid with watered down design to shamelessly drive mtx.

>>715438964
Kinda dumb but I get it. The meaning of 'assault' is kinda abstract (support too really) which is why its been everything from an actual aggressor with improved survivability and movement (2042) to a medic (3/4) to an engineer (1/5) to a support-esque class with resupply (bc1/2, if I recall correctly)
That's why I think its best to fuse assault and ammo support into one class. Maybe give them access to ARs and LMGs with a bunch of useful anti-personnel gear (AP mines, mortar, C4, underbarrel grenade launchers, that triple smoke launcher from 2042, maybe even a trophy system against frags etc.) Why assault in bf3/4 wasnt given carbines instead with Engi getting ARs I dont get, seems a more balanced choice though maybe they were afraid that Engineers with ARs would lead to rocket and mine spam

i hope it dies and i haven't played any of them after bf1

>>715428649 (OP)
There is no need for a new Battlefield game, the perfect one already exists - its called Bad Company 2.
Just release a patch that upgrades the textures, and thats it.

>>715428649 (OP)
>How do you save Battlefield 6?
WITH ANIME GIRLS!!!!!!!!!!

>>715428649 (OP)
Idk, just release Bad Company 2 again

>>715440812
unironically better than the slop that we got with 2042's specialists
if you're going to go that way at least make them hot. I don't want to play as a fucking grandma

>>715440812
I actually could see modern DICE being so out of touch that they'd include anime skins in their game and then get surprised when told that was stupid and inappropriate.

>>715431986
I miss mw19 desu

>>715439287
>>715430152
These.

>>715428649 (OP)
By making it NOTHING like they are currently doing it
Battlefield 1 should be the template
The sweetspot pushed recons to different weapons for different maps and so to fight at different range while each class was dependant on each other
Assaults were forced to stay up close and traded their range for explosives
Medics were more versatiles and but had no true range at which they excelled to make up for their healing
Support either had very high first shots spread and dedicated itself to suppressive or bipoded fire or had low ammo mags lmgs
Vehicles couldn't sit on an hill to snipe AND retain their tankyness, you had to choose the artillery truck or the tank

Battlefield 1 was golden, it was actually really well balanced AND YOU COULD TELL IT WAS MADE BY DICE LA

>>715428649 (OP)
You can't. It has women screeching on the battlefield.

>>715432572
Where´s my anime Sonnenrad patch?

>>715433256
Thing is, I dont care about sillhouettes, this isnt a hero shooter where you need to be able to recognize profiles instantly so you know how to respond, its never mattered. If you see someone without a friendly indicator in games that arent hero shooters, you shoot them, it doesnt matter if they have a different outline or even a differnt color of uniform from the rest of their teammates, you just shoot them.

What I also dont want is clones again, it is like BF is behind everyone else on this shit, at least make them faceless goons, and I dont want skins again, because when they do skins they always make stuff that isnt interesting or is just absurd becuase they think thats the only way to make different skins. The last game had a fucking santa costume, this shit is not BF or what anyone wants. Just let people play dressup with different military parts and make them distinct to the two factions so they still look visually different even if they can vary drastically. Like one faction doesnt have access to certain helmet types and the other has different plate carriers and camo patterns. They dont need to have people wearing trenchcoats wearing cowboy hats running around fighting Spider-Man.

>>715432813
t. retard with BF2 nostalgia goggles
BF4 was literally the peak of the series; best fun for vehicles, BF3 had the best gunplay imo (sorta, mostly best infantry maps, didn't have much gun diversity due to stats)

t. someone near the hill that played BF2->BF1 and quit when he saw DICE flipping Battlefront (assets) as Battlefield with BF1
BF1 was literally made for the zoomies, all shiny and slick with no depth

> Secureboot required
> Game dies instantly.

They need to keep the animations of getting in and out of vehicles like in BFV.

Nothing makes the game more retarded than idiots hopping out of a vehicle instantly, firing off an rpg, getting back in the tank as it auto reloads and just basically doubling their fire power for no reason. Also all the vehicles with turrets need a maximum turn speed like in BFV, none of this instant 180 bullshit. Getting in and out of a vehicle should always be a risk, not invincibility frames. Anyone defending it was just a shitty vehicle player who wanted ez kill farming.

>>715444836
entering/exiting animations didn't stop vehicles whores
it was fucking terrible for people who wanted to use or bail out from bikes or jeeps only to be instantly killed or destroyed just because the game told them to fuck off

>>715444836
go away BFVshitter

>>715445491
They should have planned better, yes I too love jihad-jeep goofy shit but it wasn't all that different, just needed to flank properly. Most infantry could ride on the top of vehicles anyway.

>>715445712
Played since bf1942, still think that BFV's animations for vehicles was one of the best entries. Kick rocks, faggot.

>>715429032
Gameplay and mechanics from 5 and give it a modern or cold war skin

>>715428649 (OP)
Vietnam or the Middle East

>>715435440
project reality having multi-seat helictopers and tanks was a great system. having a good driver and gunner was huge along with a commander who could actually tell you wtf is happening.

Maybe stick to a formula and niche and stop trying to follow trends?
Maybe give the fans of the series the game they are looking for PLUS more instead of changing the very nature of the game to appeal to the MONEY.

MaybMONEY try not to MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY

Fucking who cares.
They won't fucking make another battlefield again.
it'll be trend chasing slop and they LITERALLY don't care about it.

>>715447685
>Played since bf1942, still think that BFV's animations for vehicles was one of the best entries. Kick rocks, faggot.
Based oldfag, anyone who has played all the games can easily see why so many people praise BF5, because out of all the games it is by far the one with the best mechanics and balancing

>>715428649 (OP)
>class restricted weaponry and equipment
>5 classes, Marksman, Support, Medic, Engineer, and Rifleman
>Rifleman has no special equipment, but is the only class that can take assault rifles
Then you can either win or be a faggot, but not both.

>>715448661
too bad EA killed it so they could shit out bf2042. we never got to see any of the eastern front.

>>715444197
>BF3 had the best gunplay imo

>>715448780
Yes, me and my friends still talk about that all these years later, we were people who genuinely loved the game and wanted it to succeed

>>715448661
>anyone who has played all the games can easily see why so many people praise BF5
Would you mind showing me the moveable carriers and battleships of BFV?

>>715449157
Honestly, in bf1942, while it was fun beaching the carrier and destroyer, it didn't really add much due to the player amount.

Now if the game had 128 players at the time, it would have been way more interesting. I wish BFV had some naval battles but alas, it's a FPS first and foremost.

>>715449678
>player amount
You sound like a newfag pretending to be a "bf1942 veteran".

>>715449980
How do you even come to that conclusion?

Also, it's not like other people didn't want this you dumb ass tourist.

>>715449678
>tfw I will never get to do modern submarine jousting like in 1942 on midway

>>715428649 (OP)
They already confirmed having gay heroes and shit so I lost interest. Not to mention them going retard and saying "we hear you, but we don't care :^)"

>>715450261
Feels bad man. Imagine having proper Land Sea and Air with BFV visuals and clean animations with the amount of effort they put into BF1.

Truly the worst time line.

>>715450162
>How do you even come to that conclusion?
By claiming that many people "praise BFV", a game that is NOTHING but a joke with much worse balance and "mechanics" compared to BF1942.
Kill yourself, you retarded poser.

>>715448769
This post actually add perspective to a lot of the design decisions made for the last handful of battlefield games. Every decision has been to remove penalties for being a faggot.

>>715450836
>By claiming that many people "praise BFV"
>delusional anon can't read

I didn't even say that. lmao, clearly you need your head examined. Still played bf1942 back when it came out in highschool. Imagine getting this mad over something you know nothing about.

>>715448824
Metro was peak and you can't tell me otherwise

>>715451001
>I didn't even say that
Slit your throat. >>715448661

>>715451106
pic related within pic.

lmao

>>715451106
He didn't say that, I said that and it was because no one praises BF5 besides people on /v/, every other space shits on it universally while ignoring it's positive aspects

>>715451024
>64player conquest metro
>pre-nerf frag USAS shotgun rounds
>recon MAV when it could roadkill enemies

home

Just make Bad Company 3
No women
No faggotry
No fortnite pandering
No pay to win

I miss when FPS was CoD v Battlefield, now it's just everything copy fortnite

>>715451352
It's really grim: we are getting cod/bf IRL with the conflict in ukraine and the military game market is more grim than ever because of feminism

>>715451256
>no one praises BF5 besides people on /v/

>>715451328
That shit was absolute chaos and it was so much fun. I remember being a medic and just farming revive points from teammates dying from grenades being thrown down those narrow corridor bottlenecks.

>>715451542
>shows graph that doesn't refute my point
As I said, /v/ is the only place where I will often see some say BF5 has many great aspects, go out of /v/ and it's the same "BF5 bad" repeated 24/7 while BF4 is glazed by every nigger and their mother

>>715428649 (OP)
Make it like a good Battlefield game (Anything prior to and including 4).

>>715428649 (OP)
Remove recon rats

>>715451542
I liked 4, but honestly the tanks and little birds/attack choppers absolutely killed it. Even more so when they listened to whiny pilots and nerfed the SRAW into the fucking ground. After that patch I gave up on it because it got boring either forcing myself to whore vehicles to kill farm, or play shitty hallway nade spam maps.

V was the closest one where infantry and vehicles meshed very well apart from the tank hill-humpers who just used the tanks as snipers that stalled out the game, but faggots did that in every battlefield.

>>715428649 (OP)
Jackfrags is a spineless shill and his opinions should never be considered at all.

>>715432706
That was already a thing in BF4 through server plugins. A bot would kick you for too high of a ping.

>>715451957
What I hated about 4 is how the dlc packs split the playerbase. You'd be in a full vanilla map and then next round you get separated and put into a half empty dlc map. I know they added filters eventually, but I loved being able to play games with all the maps on rotation.

A FUCKING SERVER BROWSER

The women screeching on the battlefield is enough for me never want to play battlefield again.

>>715437584
yeah exactly, as i said, bf4 had the right amount
>>715444127
bf4 is still a game with classes and a good example why silhouettes matter is when you get killed by a sniper class from behind you know there is a respawn beacon somewhere you need to find (especially on infantry maps like lockers or metro)

>>715452292
That was kinda bullshit too, it's probably what killed the game even faster since most people don't really want to pay for maps since back in the day you could just get them for free by just connecting to a server. 2007-2015 was such a weird time for FPS games where people either had to pay for map packs or miss out on 70% of the damn levels. Still pisses me off.

The DLCs should only have been tied to the weapons while the maps should have been playable for everyone, BF4 would have lived way longer.

>>715451328
Kino

>>715451707
I loved being a medic in older battlefield games. It's just awful now

>>715451793
Delusional, I've seen more people dickriding BFV (especially reddit) outside of this place with people posting that "lack of features from 2042" pasta, in fact this board is the only place that ridicules BFV the most than anywhere else, but then again there's always a vocal minority that like the previous installment just because the latest one is worse. Don't be surprised to see 2042 getting a bit of praise than usual when the next game comes out.

just make battlefield 1 with modern guns and vehicles and maps. that's it. keep the communtiy server browser, keep the cases unlocked by play time, keep class-restricted weapons and classes that have very specific playstyles. stop reinventing the wheel, refine it further instead of removing it and adding some dogshit no one asked for.

>>715429032
>Make it like bf4

Focus on the gameplay only. Seek a good balance between team play vs solo play, infantry vs vehicles.
No jets.
Also the gunplay needs to be as tight as possible (I remember playing the alpha of mw2019 and liking the guns and movements).
Of course no shitty things like sliding.

>>715453548
uh oh anon, the battlefield oldfags aren't gonna like you saying bf1 was good

>>715428649 (OP)
- Revert back medpen change. Assault needs medpen to be useful otherwise it will be less useful as an assault than an engineer or a support.
- Class lock weapons with no universals, combine ARs, carbines, some LMGs and some DMRs to create a battle rifle class
Assault: ARs, shotguns
Engineer: Carbines, DMRs
Recon: SMGs, bolt action sniper rifles
Support: LMGs, battle rifles
- Tone down visual recoil
- Tone down recoil
- Buff spread
- Remove suppression or make it just visual
- Buff movement, playtest felt like my character was constantly in the mud, BFV, 2042, BF4 did NOT felt like that and I played them all recently.

>>715429032
>Zero visibility
>Inaccurate as shit weapons
>Single and burst are so shit that it's practically a death sentence to have them selected
>RNG fights
>Everyone blends with each other so they had to add the shitty triangles above your head
>Commander is so shit that almost nobody wants to play it
>The community is highly autistic and only plays the same 5 maps over and over again
>Muh lootboxes
>Muh unlock weapons per section and not class
I'd rather they follow a BF2 foot soldier formula while keeping the BF4 vehicle balance.
>t. paid like 5 dollars for a BF collection and still felt scammed

>>715430152
>>715443338
>>715439287
>>715438393
Sub 0.5 KD suggestions. Big L take. You don't even play the game, you spectate other people play the game.

>>715454596
hello enders

>>715432870
>Make recoil much stronger
Recoil won't solve engagement distance issues as this game has gunsmithing which allows you to make no recoil guns + console players already gets 40% less recoil. They need to buff spread, spread is the only way to fix engagement distance issues not recoil.

>>715455495
this, damage falloff and spread are the only effective ways to balance combat encounters

>>715438964
BC2 had the best class system ngl. BC2 classes with BC1 medpen for assault would be goated.

>>715454296
Medpens are crutches for adderall addicted zoomies
Modern day assault class is basically the call of duty class and it's fucking garbage. You can delete the class entirely from 2042 and the game wouldn't change, that's how much of a nonfactor they are to squadplay

>>715438750
>Just make the best battlefield ever made!
Never gunna happen. EA hates its customers and would never give us something so good.
That and in all honesty, do zoomers even know what Command and conquer is?
>The blackhand has arrived!
>Milita!
>I've got the rockets!

>>715456208
>Medpens are crutches for adderall addicted zoomies
Meanwhile BF3/4 assault had med packs. They didn't even carry a defib because who cares about others? They carried medpack + a grenade launcher for themselves.

>>715443690
>it was actually really well balanced
Grenade spam, sweet spot, SMG08, mortar spam, grenade spam, gas spam, grenade spam.

BF1 fucking sucks.

>>715428649 (OP)
If this game fails then I will be voting for Donald Trump again in 2028. Tick tock fags. Get those preorders up before I place my vote

>>715452373
You don't recognize recon from their silhouttes, you recognize recon from their scope glint or sniper rifles.

>>715456476
This, BF1 was made to appeal to CODfags, that was the year BF won over COD commercially and reputation wise

>>715456310
Yeah and the difference between that and medpens is you can still share medpacks with teammates. Medpens are solely for personal use with no teamplay element, it's a design element copied straight from cod (yes I know BC1 had it, but we all know DICE is trying to copy it from cod and not BC1 so don't even go there)
Actually this whole shitshow started with the introduction of small medbags, the moment healing stopped being team focused with the big medbag that you can share with the whole team and more individualistic with the small personal medbags is when the medic role started going downhill fast and became less of an actual support role. So yes, get rid of the shitty small medbags as well.

>>715456642
BF4 feels like modern mobile COD. So where did they perfect the avowed "Modern Battlefield" formula?

>>715456887
Honestly BF4 is shit, I don't know why people glaze it so much, but maybe I'm just biased because I love BF3 but it could be my nostalgia talking

>>715428649 (OP)
It's not even out yet. How do we know what's to fix?

>>715456689
>Yeah and the difference between that and medpens is you can still share medpacks with teammates.
How is it any better than medpen? With medpen you can only heal yourself twice before finding another med pack or ammo pack. DICE doesn't want 70% assault pick rate of BF3/4 that's why they seperated assault and medic into different classes.
>Actually this whole shitshow started with the introduction of small medbags, the moment healing stopped being team focused
BFV has attrition, without med pouches no one would play any class other than medic since medic has infinite self heals in BFV.
>SMGs bad
SMGs are not only great in ranges where most gunfights matters medic also had like 5 smoke grenades which they could allow them to get close to their target. Not only that medics has their own mini snipers in BFV. Without single med pouches no one would use any class other than medic.

new jet footage
https://files.catbox.moe/q0xbek.mp4

>>715456642
>This, BF1 was made to appeal to CODfags
No, it was made to appeal to Battlefront-fags. Turbo casual game that rewards cheap tactics.

Are boomers ITT really suggesting to remove jumping? What the fuck am I reading? There’s dozens of milsim games you can fuck off to retards, battlefield has always had arcade gameplay you fucking geriatric shitters

>>715456887
3/bc2
>>715457135
People who started with 4/ played prev games on consoles with 24 players maximum. Not unexpected that even shit like 4 will seem like a huge improvement just because it has 64 players

>>715429214
>pay money for skins that everyone sees but you.

>>715428649 (OP)
>another military shooter set in the sandbox
Wow we didn't get enough of these since the Desert Combat mod in 2003 or anything

>>715457269
>DICE doesn't want 70% assault pick rate of BF3/4 that's why they seperated assault and medic into different classes.
Now it will be 70% support

>>715457269
He’s obviously a fucking retard, he just hates the fact it’s a medpen. Anything resembling COD is LE BAD! Even though the medpack from BFV functioned essentially the same. Sub 1kd shitters just shouldn’t have any input at all

>>715457269
>How is it any better than medpen?
You can't heal teammates with the medpen like you can with a medkit
read nigga

>>715454513
Most of your gripes are literally skill issue problems buddy

>>715457281
physics look like turboshit

>>715457354
Not only that you can:
Like you can slide cancel in Insurgency Sandstorm.
You can bunny hop in Escape from Tarkov
You can strafe in Hell Let Loose
You can bunny hop in Squad
And you can player model wiggle in just about all of these to mess with people's aim because your character pivot is on the waist instead of neck

What BF veterans are asking for is picrel. Because they don't have the situational awareness a real milisim requires lmao.

Crying about medpen is literally skill issue bad player complaint. Oh you won’t let me use the medpen and incentivize me to play assault? Okay I’ll just play support then with unlimited heals.

>>715457609
It will lead to 70% assault pick rate. Which is what they don't want. Current system will lead to 70% support pick rate though, especially since weapons aren't class locked. Most people will play as the class with self heals.

>>715458042
ok so don't make assault the medic class
This is a much simpler fix than turning into the call of duty calss

>>715428649 (OP)
Make it Project Reality but slightly faster paced like Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm 1

>>715458202
>ok so don't make assault the medic class
People will play as whatever class has self heals, if they make the support only class with self heals then 70% of the people will play as support. Support already has a good gadget selection.

I think the buffs for the class weapons is the right direction. But I don't see it being big enough to make a difference.
What they need to do is make a nerf for 'antithesis' weapons.
e.g. an Engi gets buff with SMG and Carbines. No buff or nerf for ARs. Nerf for Machine Guns, DMRs, and Snipers.

>>715457685
>1.2 kda after 10 hours and then dropped
Only unlocked like 3 weapons in that time and practically zero attachments from the lootboxes.

>>715457281
I don't like jets in BF: You have 0 interaction with the infantry, they are slow af (yet you feel very constrained while playing them), breaks the immersion.
Reducing airspace to drones and helicopters is the way to go.

>>715458389
They should limit customization. If an engineer gets 100 points for let's say SMGs and Carbines and DMRs in gunsmithing, they should get 50 points for ARs and LMGs and Snipers.

>>715428649 (OP)
battlefield is a dying ip, like halo. People play the latest release from a few months then you never hear about it again

>nu/v/ unironically defends bunnyhopping and dolphin diving
Esports twitch trannies ruining everything as usual.

>ppl debating about classes all day instead of the general gameplay of the game
Fixing classes won't revive your dead franchise

>>715429101
Current lowest common denominator hates anything that isn't at least current day

>>715458603
why even play battlefield you fake boomer? movement has always been a thing, I guess people air strafing in BF2 are esports tranny zoomers too? fucking memespouting retard

>>715429032
That's not how to spell Bad Company 2

>>715428649 (OP)
I'd just make Bad Company 2 with current year graffix and new maps.

>>715458523
Halo died a long time ago
but some people like to take dig up the corpse and dance it around

>>715458818
>Desperately making shit up like the zoomer tranny he is.
Back to Call of Delhi and stay there feggit.

>>715458523
Who gives a shit about it being a huge massive game unless you’re a shareholder? bf2 is still playable even though it has like 200 people left playing it nowadays.

>>715459115
t. has never touched BF2 in his life and doesn’t remember how movement is vital in that game because of the massive spread values that guns have

>>715429214
is it good?
i tried it once for like 5 minutes during the beta but the gunplay just felt off and i never went back

>>715458818
NTA
yes, unironically. The dolphin diving abusers and zouzou jumping lockerfags are no different from the esports trannies of today. At the end of the day you're still abusing easily exploitable animation oversights to eke out any possible advantage over other players in a completely casual setting with no stakes whatsoever. That alone makes you an obnoxious fag.
The difference being that in BF2 dolphin diving was a glitch that DICE made sure to kill as soon as they could, while in 2042 slidehopping was an intended mechanic.

>>715429214
This isn't a gacha thread, go be a SEA monkey elsewhere.

>>715459286
I never defended movement glitches like vou zou retard, air strafing however was an intended mechanic in BF4 and it adds skill depth to the game. Why does it bother you that the game has mechanics to master the gameplay and anyone who doesn’t play like a NPC bot is a tranny? Do you even like video games?

>NOO YOU CAN'T REMOVE JUMPING FROM MUH CALL OF BATTLEFIELD I NEED MOVEMENT TO HAVE ANY CHANCE OF BEATING GROWN ASS MEN WHO HAVE JOBS AND FAMILIES IN A VIDEO GAME AND POST EPIC MONTAGES ON TWITTER
Sure is summer.

>>715459585
>never defended movement glitches like vouzou
>but dolphin diving was perfectly fine
birds of a feather

>>715458436
>Reducing airspace to drones and helicopters is the way to go.
Going back to Korean war tech at most is the correct move. Heliniggers in post Cold War helicopters take place of jetniggers in being the most obvnoxious piece of shit on a sever if the latter isn't around.

>>715459479
>cant see shit beyond 20 meters
ah yes, nufield

>>715459693
How are vouzou and dolphin diving the same thing you idiot? Dolphin diving was effective in BF2 because the spread values were high, so it was more effective to make your opponent miss their shots.

>>715459648
>NOOO YOU HECKING JUMPED IN A VIDEO GAME!!! AAAAAA STOP PRESSING SPACE OR MY GERIATRIC ASS WONT BE ABLE TO HIT YOU AAAAAA! NOOO STOP KILLING ME IN A PVP VIDEO GAME!! I NEED TO STILL FEEL LIKE I’M STILL DECENT AT MULTIPLAYER GAMES!!!

>movement glitch [A] is totally not the same as movement glitch [B]
I know you're just being a disingenuous retard at this point, I just wanted to call you a faggot one last time before I leave

>>715459946
Dolphin diving was an intended mechanic in the game you moron, how is it a movement glitch you spastic

>>715459585
>Why does it bother you that the game has mechanics to master the gameplay and anyone who doesn’t play like a NPC bot is a tranny?
NTA but I want the game to be immersive (but not a sim either). An encounter between two players must be determined by tactical decisions and gunplay otherwise it looks ridiculous if everyone dolphin dives, air straf, etc. Just like counter strike. Sure you can jump, dive, etc. but it must come at a cost.

The slide spam in BF1 was the most atrocious, pair it up with a hellriegel or that OP shotgun and you couldn't be killed

>>715460124
It’s a fucking video game where you regenerate health like wolverine. You want an immersive game, there’s countless milsim games that cater to you

Just based the game on Bad Company 2, map design, gun play, everything really.

BF2 bros? What is this?

>>715460190
Let me guess, you are going to advocate for fortnite skin as well then? And it's not solely for immersion but for for gameplay as well. Counter strike isn't a mil sim. Cod mw2019 isn't a mil sim.

Played BF2 like 7 months ago, the whole dolphin diving and jump autists were shat on 99% of the time because everyone played as a team and they couldn't hide behind shoddy terrain to push. They also weren't very common, like in recent titles. Good aim and hard cover were king.
Fuck heliniggers though, absolute fucking cancer. If they aren't busy dick measuring with your team's helinigger, they'll just strafe infantry for easy kills and spam TV missiles from 80 miles away.
Vehicles with a .50s were practically the only thing capable of damaging those fucking things.

>>715428649 (OP)
HOLY FUCKING HYPE
BF BACK TO DA ROOTS
KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU

>>715460431
I would 100 times they have goofy Fortnite skins than the game catering to casual retards that want to remove jumping from the game

>>715460432
bfbc2 had the perfect balance with choppers.

>>715460538
I never asked from removing jumping from the game. Just balancing the movements a bit more to prevent abuse (like in bf2 you have a sprint stamina iirc).

>>715452371
This, get rid of women on the battlefield.

>>715460652
Yeah and make the game like BF1 which is unfun as fuck to play compared to BF4 and BFV.

>>715428649 (OP)
Just lock weapons to classes. Be more strict than BF3/4, or at least preemptively nerf carbines so there's a real trade between versatility and killing power and the game doesn't devolve into everyone running mini-ARs again.
Look at all the insane copes they're stuffing into the game to try to make classes look as serious as they were before. Fuck, look at how hard they're trying to justify a dedicated assault class (in a four class system? why?) when it can't have exclusive access to ARs. If they can't lock weapons they at least need to get rid of pure assault and replace it with medic.
>wouldn't that be OP again?
Support/medic has infinite health, revives, grenade launchers, ARs, and infinite ammo. It's already more cancerous than BF3/4 assault/medic ever was.

Already lost all interest from seeing the test footage, the dev's behaviors, EA's completely ridiculous 100m player goal, and their complete refusal to talk about a server browser.

>>715460652
>bf2 you have a sprint stamina iirc
You do.
And every class has different levels of stamina and I believe maybe a slight difference in hit points, but I couldn't really notice it. Jumps also eat a shit ton of your stamina and if it gets to the red, you'll take slightly longer to recover than normal.

>>715460349
a 100% intended feature obviously

>>715428649 (OP)
PVE only

You literally cannot stop people from hacking anymore. 99% of people hack. The only solution is PVE

BF6 will have movement so you faggots can cry about it lmao. Go play BF1 if you want a shit stiff garbage no skill required game.

Reminder even if they nerfed the movement to your liking, I still would shit on you immensely.

but what setting would be best?
I for once want to see battlefront 3

>>715441096
lol

>>715428649 (OP)
If this game received 20 million pre orders then I will leak the Epstein files

CHOP CHOP /V/ TARDS. I DON'T HAVE ALL DAY

>>715429813
>physcal year 2025
>physcal
roflcopter

>>715461327
>BF6 will have movement
Yes, pressing WSAD to move and Space to jump is in fact movement.

>>715461719
>but what setting would be best?
If they really need to have it semi modern then Cold War would be best. Otherwise WW2 again or Korea.

>>715431161
I have no idea anyone would think getting 3 kills is montage worthy

>>715428649 (OP)
All dice needs to do is make COD MW2019 groundwar with classes but without killstreaks and SBMM and it'll sell like hotcakes.
They also shouldn't listen to the nascent BF2 crowd (most of these people are way out of touch as right as they might be about some elements) but instead allow mod support and a server browser so then people can make Diet BF2 in the game like how people made all the custom bs in portal mode

>>715429739
What the hell even is "Battlefield community"?
DICE and EA finally got their "wide audience" and all it provides is radically different tribes of players that each started with different BF and decided its the perfect one.

It's now mathematical impossibility to provide the "next great BF" when there is no such thing as REAL BF due to distorted identity of its IP.

>>715431161
>those hands
literal tranny, kek this is who is against the removal of jumping from bf

>>715430152
nigga just play Rising Storm
>>715431161
>by using the best guns and class
this will happen no matter what, people will find the best shit to use and players will still go on massive killstreaks. Even if you remade the game into BF2 or something people would go medic and go on massive streaks.

Nerfing infantry movement and fun factor is only gonna make people big time vehicle whores who'll play like pussies only dipping into combat to kill grouped up enemies then leaving

>>715463714
They're showcasing their 'flicks', they're basically trying to imitating this guy: https://youtu.be/6-Kt2duNKtY

>>715429032
FPBP.

>>715429082
Because DICE isn't putting new maps into it.

Honestly: That's all I want: Battlefield 4-2: With all BC1, BC2, BF3, BF4 maps in it with a few newer maps.

Anything else is stupid.

>>715429032
*BC2

>>715428649 (OP)
Make it like BF Hardline

>>715433990
>In BFV and 2042 I started to notice people play less as a team.
>He unironically says this when BF5/WW"1" was accelerated that
Anon...

The series has had a lone-wolf everyman-for-himself problem all series long.

You couldn't get Recons to use the most broken item in the WW1 entry (the spot flare) no matter how much you begged. It was only AFTER YOU REACHED MVP in the round generating points spotting with the flare and resupplying it from the 1-2 that had a brain that EVERYONE FUCKING ELSE went Recon to try to catch your SPM only to LOSE THE ROUND because everyone went recon after seeing you doing work instead of supporting you.

>>715459286
>. At the end of the day you're still abusing easily exploitable animation oversights
Is sliding an exploitable animation oversight? Where do you draw the line when developers designed these newer games with dolphin diving, sliding, jumpshotting in mind?

>>715464052
>All of the sick montages are in 2 maps in the most closed off areas possible
Why do they never show gameplay in the wide open terrain areas that are basically 99% of the most played maps in bf4?

>>715435053
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT ECELEBS CUNTS ON YOUTUBE HAVE TO SAY!

>>715464052
They need to get rid of this stupid "killcam" that reveals the location of the guy who killed you AFTER you died.

>>715452229
Which was an issue with some lag spikes because routing for the EA servers was dogshit, even IN REGION.

Honestly, the Frostbite engine works until 250 ping. As soon as someone with a consistent 251+ ping joins, the server goes to shit. They should auto-refuse connection for any person that attempts to join a server that responds that they're 251+ ping.

>>715429739
> Enders is still playing Battlefield
That's just extremely pathetic. He needs to go get a job.

>>715463805
>due to distorted identity of its IP
the identity of the IP has been consistent since frostbite though and especially BF3. Being BIG cod with vehicles and a class system, a giant sandbox where players dick around and get killed by OP air assets

now whether or not thats good is another topic but you can tell by the number of BF3/4 nostalgia fags that people are wholly not self aware and think that modern (post 2008) BF is some great sophisticated game of teamwork and class matchups and not just a giant meat grinder where players have always been lone wolfing it.

I don't give a fuck about the class system. I just want a gunplay like mw2019/counter strike, where players aren't jumping/sprinting all around like rabbits and guns have a tiny bit of recoil and spraying like a retard isn't always the best option.

>>715464431
Play Hardcore.
Oh wait, it's just the shit that makes BF4 cancer x2.

>>715464478
When I encountered this plugin it gave you 3 warnings over the course of something like 30 seconds. If your lagspikes are this long log out and fix your shit.

>I need instant self-heal medpen
>I need slip 'n slide movement
>I shouldn't need teammates for anything
>I hate class restrictions
If you think these things, why not play CoD? You are the exact type of person it's made for. Why bother trying to drag BF into being CoD when CoD is already CoD and waiting for you to play it? It's right there.

>let a bunch a devs make the game they want
vs
>hire a billion code monkeys and aim for 100m players

>>715451957
>but honestly the tanks and little birds/attack choppers absolutely killed it.
So like every other Battlefield, then.

DICE-SE couldn't balance, and it's mostly because of Demize "How do I explain to my daughter women aren't in war?" 99. He left the company after Battlefield V(agina) queefed, BTW.

>>715464616
Let a bunch of devs make the game they want is exactly why you have your pic.
DICE sweden is fully pozzed.

>>715452689
>BF4 would hav elived way longer
Nani? BF4 was played WAYYYY after other entries released after it. Shit it was given TWO YEARS support, more than any other entry (a year at most and then dropped for the next entry).

>>715452689
>>715464762
BF4 still has a good playerbase compared to the later live service entries due to bundling the DLC then selling the game for $2
the VAST majority of servers these days rotate all maps

>>715464307
In terms of slide canceling or slidehopping, yes to a degree
When the devs intend the slide mechanic to be a "get into cover" quick option but instead becomes another thing to spam every 3 seconds and chain into another movement option like jumping, then it's clearly not being used as intended, especially if the animation appears janky on the other person's screen

>>715464614
I am way better at battlefield than you, so don’t tell me what to play

>>715465042
>battlefield
CoD*

>>715465095
I would shit on you in BF4, BF1, BFV, 2042.

>>715464481
he doesn't need a job, he's a rich kid who's been fed by daddy's silver spoon his entire life so instead of working he just bitches about battlefield while playing it all day

>>715464614
>Why bother trying to drag BF into being CoD
BF has been chasing COD since 2008 dummy

>>715430719
>except they don't?
LMAO. Someone wasn't in the CTE.

>WAHHH WAHHH DICE-LA DICE-LA! NERF/BUFF THIS!
>Me (Sexy, smarter, plays all modes in addition to Conquest): "If this listen to you, they'll fuck over these other modes because it unbalances the entire game outside of Conquest."
>*Spongebob montage font* LATER...
>(DICE-LA listened to Youtube eCeleb faggots that don't play outside Conquest)
I like T1gg3r, I like DICE-LA (for the most part) but they really need to get people that understand the series and not listen to retards like JackFrags, DannyOnPC (even Demize99, PissBUH agreed Danny is a tard: https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/ml6rz4/former_bfv_design_director_is_finally_able_to/), numerous others because they have a Youtube channel and I (and other players) don't. >>715430261 is right. DICE-LA nerfed Jets in the past few entries and Jet players (and Youtubers) screamed bloody murder and shat their diapers because they had to put in work to go 180-0 to where DICE-LA reverted the nerfs.

>>715463987
>>by using the best guns and class
... On the maps that heavily favor this playstyle, you completely cut that part out. You're totally missing the point, I didn't say anything about nerfing infantry movement or vehicle whores or BF2 at all, these people are not "god-tier" at the game, they only excel at one specific niche part of it, there's a reason why they usually avoid playing on regular Conquest with all map rotations, it's because they don't want their stats (like KDr, or KPM, or accuracy) since they're obsessed with their Battlelog/tracker statistics, they don't care if DICE doesn't lock the weapons because it'll give them the opportunity to farm much more easier than in previous games especially when you consider the new maps they've shown in Labs so far.

>>715465140
Why not earlier titles?
Too scared to play with balanced gunplay? Do you need your CoD movement to "pwn", kiddo?

>>715465321
Drop 150 kills on locker lil bro then you can talk about who’s good or not

>>715465321
it's because they don't want their stats to go lower*

>>715465397
Meet me in BF3 anytime buddy or you gonna cry about me jumping in that game too?

>>715465321
>vidrel
I can't believe I used to tryhard like that in vidya when I was a teen on a regular basis

>>715465509
Why not 1942?
BF2?
BC?

>>715435196
tbf this what the vast majority of people were doing in BF3 and BF4 anyways and just remove the defib gadget for some bullshit like a grenade launcher.

>>715428649 (OP)
by burning down dice hq, those swedes are so washed up

>>715465596
Those games are nearly 20 years old gramps and don’t even have active player bases

>>715465428
>it thinks getting kills on the gayest infantry only maps is an indication of skill
Your new is showing

>>715429324
People genuinely wanted this outing to be good. But as soon as they said they were carrying over the band-aid solution to 2042's hero system, it was over. There is no way you can "save" the game if they're going to continue to use a shitty foundation (hero class sytem of 2042) to build on instead of moving the entire building to a more stable foundation (class sytem that works).

Not that it affects me since I'm going Linux (I use Arch, BTW) and EA's shitty anti-cheat doesn't work on Linux, so it's whatever to me at this point. Series has been dead since BF5/"1".

I'll give BF5 props in that Operations (aka: Breakthrough) was a decent new mode to mix Rush/Conquest together, but I wish they'd bring Sabotage (aka: Oblieration) back since that was the best new post-Rush mode introduced to the series.

>>715465321
>it'll give them the opportunity to farm much more easier than in previous games especially when you consider the new maps they've shown in Labs so far.
I really don't think its gonna make much of a difference. You can farm hard with any weapon if you're good enough. Yeah maybe its easier to farm with a sniper or something if you can keep a med bag on you but considering most of those hallway maps like metro or locker forces players to drop healing bags in clusters anyways.
Its tradition anyways that the medic class gets the best guns anyways. I don't see how someone now being able to heal and use say, an LMG will be that much different than the sweat lords of 3 and 4 running around with an M16a3 or AEK

>>715465562
What made you do it, anon? What made you ruin the experience of others by being a sweat?

>>715465724
>don’t even have active player bases
lol
Go back to CoD, kid.
>t.25 years old

>>715428649 (OP)
hate me all you want, but i want to see how a battle royale mode looks like in a battlefield game. if it ends up sucking, then fuck it, right? at least those fuckers tried something different, eh?

>>715465736
Why can’t you do it champ? I can play on non infrantry maps just fine, they are just boring as fuck. People just vehicle whore on them anyways

>>715465821
if your experience got ruined by a movement player not even abusing BF4's actual unfair movement mechanics involving hitboxes in a game where any class can equip explosives (and fifty other cheese strats) you might actually be a shitter

>>715465864
>at least those fuckers tried something different, eh?
battlefield has already tried battle royale before, and who the fuck would consider br modes 'something different' in 2025

>>715465864
>how a battle royale mode looks like in a battlefield game.
Just look at that one call of duty battle royale game before it turned into microtransaction hell.

>>715465848
You ever played project rome? It’s literally just cheaters with 20 different accounts

>>715429440
128 players does NOT work on Frostbite, Veteran DICE-SE developers told the junior developers before they bailed out of the flaming plane that is DICE-SE this and even 2042 proved it with the dogshit netcode/hit regsiter in All Out War 128 players.

You can not fix that unless DICE-SE's junior devs bail from Frostbite, especially since all the Veterans that made the engine during the PS360 era (Bad Company 1) have left.

Veterans tested it on maps and the engine and found it played like shit, and was vendicated when 2042 released. It's why the play lists are now 64 players, because the engine and servers simply can not handle 64vs64 players.

>>715465562
>I can't believe I used to tryhard like that in vidya when I was a teen on a regular basis
I remember specifically abstaining after a while from using gay and cheesy weapon combos in TF2 when they started adding additional weapons for the classes.

>>715465995
Alright I'll be fair and says it's a lot better than being a vehicle shitter so good on you.

>>715465946
>I can play on non infrantry maps just fine, they are just boring as fuck
I'm sure you can boss. Besides why do you want to play a game series that was specifically built with combined arms in mind from the get go if you don't like it because "muh ebil vehicle whores"? Is it brain damage?

>>715466110
even though I don't necessarily care for 10k hour sweat lords on maps like locker, with a server browser you could usually avoid them. I do have to say the vehicles that can be bordline uncoutnerable are evil and the actual problem with balancing Dice has consistently not addressed. Especially so when the team work required to do well in a vehicle is MUCH lower than the team work often required to take down a vehicle as infantry

>>715466016
No, but I've played PR if we are talking about mods. And it was still more fun than modern battleshit.

>>715466063
I still remember I had the M1 Garand and Thompson on BFBC2 and while I didn't tryhard that much there I still used meta weapons, but these 2 WW2 guns were my go-to when I wanted to chill and play rush

>>715466263
>team work
>in vehicles
I joined a game a couple of days ago where a single dude was 30-0 with a tank.

>>715466173
Okay buddy you can go pretend to have fun on golmud meanwhile I have actual fun engaging gameplay on locker. Cry about it loser and how I’m not playing DA RWEAL BATTLEFIELD!!!

>>715431389
>That dogshit gunplay
>Good
Delusional Gen-X/Boomer. Series was peak during Frostbite PS360 era. It's gone downhill since.

1942 and BF2 were nice novelties but they play like total shit now a days thanks to DICE(-SE) not understanding gunplay at the time.

>>715466052
It's funny, I was playing 2042 the other day and was wondering why the hitreg felt like dogshit. Then I switched to the 64p playlist and it immediately improved. 128p was just a complete mistake, not only does the game fail to regularly fill up the servers because of 2042's piss poor population numbers, but also because it's very clear the networking can't handle that many people connecting at once which is something they should have been able to tell in development.

>>715466381
Teamwork in vehicles can only be doen with friends, me and my friends would coordinate infantry+tank+heli attacks to destroy other tanks, positions and take objectives, was very fun

>>715465562
That's because your parents didn't raise you right

make 128 tick servers

>>715431573
3.0 was just "micro destruction (bullet holes being able to chip sections of buildings out and getting hit with those could kill players if they were large chunks)". You still had "2.0"/building collapses, it just wasn't every building because every building wasn't copy-pasted like BC2's.

>>715465627
Correct, which is why so many people rightfully pointed out Assault was a bullshit class back then.

Why do people use acknowledged issues from older games as precedents to justify bringing those problems forward?

>>715466401
>I have actual fun engaging gameplay on locker
>mfw
So it's brain damage. I don't know why you're shitting up this series and this thread when you could be doing the same in CoD.

>>715441096
kek

>>715466263
Agreed. I think that's why infantry maps are historically the most popular.
Hot take, but I don't think most players care that much about vehicle combat in BF. Feels like a carry over from the series that most learn to bear with. Imo the only joy I get out of vehicles is blowing them up and the amount of work required to take down a vehicle paired with the almost negligible impact of killing vehicles because of the absurd spawn rate makes them not even worth going after a lot of times.

>>715466381
yeah you don't even need it lol but even just having the backup gunner guy reparing the tank while the driver shoots ants makes that tank 10x worse.
Its crazy how dice designed vehicles to be immune to 50-90% of an enemy team based on class alone and the minimum input required to do well is to just do hit and run tactics
>>715466505
>can only be doen with friends
I disagree. All the team work required for any two seater vehicle is one guy shooting while the other guy drives and maybe heals. That's how it is in helis, and in tanks its just flipped flop. Not to mention in BF2/3 any single player good enough in a jet can dominate a whole server
>>715466645
>shitting up a series thats been chasing cod for decades by playing it like cod
LMAO, LOL

>>715466645
You hate infrantry maps so I know for a fact you’re a fucking shitter. Dont tell me what to play Mr. 1.0 KPM bipod camper

>>715466505
>Teamwork in vehicles
Any sort of teamwork in any new teamwork oriented game can be done only with friends. The average retard playing these game is so braindead most of the time I would prefer having bots on my team instead of "people".

>>715466729
>I disagree. All the team work required for any two seater vehicle is one guy shooting while the other guy drives and maybe heals. That's how it is in helis, and in tanks its just flipped flop. Not to mention in BF2/3 any single player good enough in a jet can dominate a whole server
I meant teamwork that benefits your team not the individual, yes you can go solo in most the games

>>715464668
Yes, every modern era combat Battlefield has this problem. Either Helis/tanks are free god mode or a joke. Oh I forgot to mention the C4 nerf in BF4 as well.

Demize was always a fucking retard, he pretty much hamstringed BF5 with his stupid "lol lets make everyone have BATTLE ROYALE health pools" idea. the fucking FG-42 took 12 rounds to kill someone with a 20 round magazine. lmao

>>715464762
The point is it could have lasted even longer. Also they kind of ruined the game at that point with the grenade/rocket resupply nerf, the c4 nerf, the sraw nerf, yeah fuck that.

>>715466786
Are you calling Metro or Locker infantry maps? You have even worse brain damage than I thought. Karkand or Seine Crossing were infantry maps. These two pieces of trash were only there to farm unlocks and you have the gall to call anyone but you a shitter. The nerve of these zoomalians.

>>715431391
*Clippy voice* Looks like you're asking for a MilSim, here are a few options so you fuck off from an Arcade Shooter series and trying to ruin said Arcada Shooter series:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1874880/Arma_Reforger/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/107410/Arma_3/
For the Battlefield 2 Boomers/Gen-X'ers: https://store.steampowered.com/app/393380/Squad/
For those that want abandoned dogshit MilSims: https://store.steampowered.com/app/418460/Rising_Storm_2_Vietnam/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/35450/Red_Orchestra_2_Heroes_of_Stalingrad_with_Rising_Storm/

>>715466717
>but I don't think most players care that much about vehicle combat in BF
it really is just the people who love to farm ants or get really good in jets. You can tell because they're the ones that cried the most when BF4 made stealth jets bad against ground targets and BF1's tanks slow
>>715466860
>your team not the individual, yes you can go solo in most the games
ah yes thats totally true. You can only really force your team to cooperate in subtle ways, but that often gets impeded by class restrictions
>>715466578
>Why do people use acknowledged issues from older games as precedents to justify bringing those problems forward?
the thing is that DICE will never make a Refractor/BF2 style game where kits/classes are restricted enough to where individual success hinges on a team effort (even in those games there were big exceptions) A lot of the better reason ive seen for unrestricted classes boils down to allowing players who want to carry a team being able to actually do that instead of having suffer while your 31 other idiots fails to help kill the Attack chopper thats been farming them all round

>>715467039
Aww baby is mad he can’t drop 150 kills on locker, so he has to call it gay. What a shitter

>>715465787
Yeah I'm sure that fucking up the class system that has defined the series since its inception for years in favor of those sweats is totally "not different" than before.

>>715433037
Battlebit's developers bailed, and it has Spyware (EpigOnlineSpyware.dll) included in addition to FaceIt spyware (monitoring voice comms for no-no words) even if they didn't bail with the money. No thank you for the worst of both worlds (MilSim trying to be an Arcade shooter for BF refugees because eCelebs hyped it up) Minecraft dead-shooter.

>>715467297
>can’t drop 150 kills on locker
Can you run that by me again but in English? I'm afraid I don't speak Subhumanium.

>>715467407
We both know you suck, that’s why you have to lash out and cope about people being better than you at a video game. How sad

>>715451024
>Call of Duty player
Metro and Locker are atrocious and players that played those 24/7 should kill themselves to save the series.

Holy shit, I fucking hate DICE for bringing those dogshit Call of Duty maps back repeatedly for the whiners that wanted to 24/7 them. They aren't Battlefield. They aren't sandboxes, they're fucking two lane explosion spammers.

Having hope for an EA game in 2025 is insanity. To make a new, good Battlefield game would go against everything they believe in

>>715455640
People hated bullet deviation from recoil in the last two entries. To where DICE had to revert it to show that visual recoil was where bullets were going. I don't think spread is the solution. But I do think bullet drop (something introduced in BF3-on) should be a little stronger and I agree that damage reduction on ranges would at least make the guns go to specific "ranges" for their balance. But I think people would bitch and just spam more ammo/magazines at longer engagement ranges instead of switching classes/guns and/or disengaging on longer ranges and asking a sniper/someone with better engagement range than their guns to help them out.

>>715456642
No, BFWW1 is just Star Wars: NuFront 1 gameplay reasseted into a "Battlefield."

The Battlepickups (tank sniper, et. al) are just the Jedi Classes from NuFront.

Vehicles spawning in thin-air and not on the maps ("IT'S A BALANCE CHANGE!")? NuFront 1 spawn vehicle tokens rejigged to be on-map for players to pick instead of running to to get in.

Even the recoil (lack of) in WW1 is the laser blasters of NuFront 1.

Anyone that has put time into both can see it's a 1:1 and not a Battlefield.

The series died after BF4's support ended because EA forced DICE-SE to become a middleware company for their entire company and fucked over DICE(-SE) and their other companies (because Frostbite wasn't meant to be used outside of internal DICE development) in the process. You can see it with Dragon Age: Inquisition, Need for Speed from Blackbox and a few other non-BF titles from EA.

>>715459286
Not to mention 2042 (and Vagina's) infantry speed is on crack to match nuCoD's crack-running speed.

Slide-crouch and movement in both entries was shit and completely fucked over the games IMO. Some people like that, but some of us (a lot of older players) don't.

>>715467312
a superificual veneer of class based teamworking finally eroding after years of attempting to undo it wouldn't make that much of a difference yes

>>715460567
Not on consoles. There's a reason BF4 introduced the "balance"/tilt system to where circle-strafes of death were harder to do. You couldn't gain "speed" like you could BF3 circle-strafe and BC2 console strafe.

I played BC2 on consoles AND PC and the helicopters were absolutely lopsidedly unbalanced on consoles because they were able to gain massive speed faster than RPG's were able to track unless the player (AT4s) were able to guide and predict where the helicopters were going to be when the rocket impacted.

>>715428649 (OP)
I'm still astonished the first gameplay shit that was ever shown immediately had
>woman soldier screaming
and they thought it was a good idea, a return to form, <insert corporate lies here>.

Can't even fucking bamboozle people properly anymore.

>>715469057
>superificual veneer of class based teamworking
Hmm I wonder how could that happen, it's totally not DICE's fault for ruining it slowly over the years instead of fixing it.

>>715470174
no it definitely is DICE's fault, but DICE isn't gonna change anytime soon and as we've seen with Battlefield since it was brought to frostbite, there will always be terrible class balance where only two matter (Medic/Assault for self healing, and engineer sometimes for killing the vehicles that can reasonably die to a solo player). The other balance problem is that vehicles will always be OP in some form (jets in 1/3, tanks/helis in 4, Arty trucks/planes in 1 etc.) The other fundamental DICE flaw is that since the series inception there has been very little incentive to actually cooperate and conduct team play. People play these games to have fun (get frags) and will play whatever class allows for that the easiest. This has been true of the entire series, the "medics wont revive me meme" and "gimme X" meme has been around since BF2 at least.

As such, since DICE constantly makes games that don't encourage teamplay, allow players to dominate lobbbies solo or with little effort see >>715467195 and >>715466729, then DICE should at least lessen the arbitrary restrictions that prevent players who actually want to conduct teamplay and carry their teams to victory. The side effect of this is now solo players who would never contribute to the team effort don't have to click "Redeploy" everytime they run out of ammo and now 10k hour Locker/Metro fags can farm sniper more easily, the horror

>>715467020
I still can't believe they removed flir/nv sights being able to see through smoke

dice need to stop being lazy cunts and remove operators

just make normal classes and create vanity for them

>>715428649 (OP)
server browser, custom servers, defined classes no vehicles

How to fix BF
Make the new one a clone of bf4
Make good maps and add 2 retro maps brought back for safety
Make all guns damage RNG. (I.e. Gun can do 15-20 damge per shot) but each hit is random. This will stop people from just using META GUNS and add some diversity to the weapon pool.
Dont do ANYTHING NEW. This point of this game is to bring the original players back. Do something stupid and new in the sequel.

Devs are incompetent and they will just ruin this as well

>>715471158
>DICE should at least lessen the arbitrary restrictions that prevent players who actually want to conduct teamplay and carry their teams to victory
Current 2042 literally has this system and it doesn't encourage shit and BF6's continuation of the said system is pretty the same. Open classes/guns does NOT encourage teamwork.

Every vehicle with weapons has a limited amount of munitions/flares/chaffe and must go back all the way to the base camp to reload. Objective caps do not count. This would reduce the amount of faggots camping with tanks or dominating the map with helis.

After V I have no hope for a good battlefield.
V felt like the least team oriented game I played, people just ran around like it was call of duty,and the way dice tried to implement self healing was astoundingly awful.

I have a suggestion but I think a lot of people will hate it. They need to remove assault from the game, assault has been a detriment to balance. Assault is literally just catering towards one man rambo cod faggots. Literally why would anyone play the other classes when you gain access to the best weapons on assault

>>715465256
>I like T1gg3r
He's the one who's currently pushing for these stupid ass changes in BF6.

>>715435053
"Content creators" play selfishly because selfish gameplay creates better content. Designing the game around the whims of content creators will result in a game optimized for selfish gameplay and not teamplay.
I did not watch the video and I don't intend to.

Just give everyone 1-2 of those long animation bandages to heal with, but you have to go to a support to get more. Not everyone will play Support just for the convenience of getting more, especially when LMGs probably wont be nearly as good as ARs.

>>715428649 (OP)
You can't because it's just going to be more modern slop.

Can't wait for lock ons, infrared scopes, turrets, UAVs, radars, and all the other garbage that makes these settings shit to actually play.

>>715473710
>This is not the approach of 2042 after the specialist changes.
But it literally is.

>>715473710
>this is not the approach of 2042 after the specialist changes
This is quite literally a carbon copy of the 2042's system
I think some of the weapon perks are even copied straight from 2042

>>715472754
losing a gunfight to rng sounds like a horrible idea. ik this already exists to a degree with spread but why make it worse with damage as well? just doesn't seem necessary.

>>715473253
never said it encouraged it but it allows the few people who want to PTFO, PTFO better and makes a negligible difference for overall team performance faltering due to those who don't PTFO

>>715475393
Better than a esports zoomer sweatlord with no job winning every single gunfight against everyone on the server for the whole game and making everyone leave the lobby, only for the sweatlord to join another one and... why did the average player count drop below 1000? How could this have happened?

>>715475502
And those who will try to "PTFO" will eat shit & have to rely on selfish teammate that will not contribute to win and do nothing because of the said system. I have played enough of 2042 to know this.

>>715473710
DICE is trapped by retards and it's never getting free of them. they can't see that the specialist system and the current class system are the same or they can tell but are trying to pretend otherwise and don't think people will notice

>>715475393
The damage difference im talking about is so minimal. 2-3 hp per hit
Something really imperceivable during play when youre unloading 15-30 bullets on an enemy. But something thats Juuuuuuuust random enough where no one weapon is the clear #1

>>715472754
>Make all guns damage RNG. (I.e. Gun can do 15-20 damge per shot) but each hit is random. This will stop people from just using META GUNS and add some diversity to the weapon pool.
Stupidest idea ever. Ppl will pick the gun with the best RNG stats.
You want a diversity of weapon? Make weapon have more or less recoil. The weapon with more recoil deals more damage.

>>715477102
That's not going to deter sweaties though, and will only make it more difficult for controller players and people with jobs to stand a chance against them

>>715477102
>Installs macro that follows recoil pattern
Worthless. Damage rng is the only way to stop sweats.

>>715460349
Was that when they were trying to make dolphin diving suck so people stop doing it? I remember playing a game it launched with dolphin diving being very effective and they gradually nerfed both your speed and accuracy if you tried to do it repeatedly.

Did they ever make a better version of Metro that didn't devolve into a single chokepoint grindfest? That map was rad as hell with like 24 people and you could reliably see the rest of it.

>>715461719
2142, best Battlefield setting to this day.

>>715463759
Ground War fucking sucks. No idea why anyone likes that shit. Good news is new BF also feels like Ground War. Geriatric movement, plastic vehicles and no spread gunplay of CoD.

>>715465026
>When the devs intend the slide mechanic to be a "get into cover" quick option
If they intended slide to be a ''get into cover'' option but people still use it quickly slide a corner and shoot someone in the face it's not an unintended mechanic, that's just how people uses that mechanic. Similar to rendezook, it wasn't intended to be in the game, but since planes had no exit animations for quick bailouts people decided to combine them with RPGs.

>>715428649 (OP)
>How do you save Battlefield 6?
1. Real factions with their real names. No more blufor/opfor shit. I want russia, taliban, china, america, etc. Fictional factions like the MEC from BF2 are fine as long they're done with sincerity and respect and not treated with pretentiousness.

2. Faction default weapons and vehicles that can be unlocked globally. I.E. M16 and abrams tank for the american and AK47 and toyota technical for the insurgents.Spawn in with weapons and vehicles once you unlock them. Map restrictions may apply.

3. Tarkov like gun building and attachment system. Turn your G36 into a K, E or C variant at the workbench. Real world ballistics too with ammo and magazine types.

4. Universal level system. Starting off at level 1 going up to 100. More levels like 200, 500, 1000 can be added later.

5. Hundred possibly thousands of unlocks; like guns, weapons, attachments, etc. 1 Unlock per level.

6. Team unique camos and voicelines. So you dont mix up whos friendly and whos enemy.

7. Hundreds of real world inspired maps. Roofs of New York, streets of LA, Tokyo, Miami, Hoover Dam, Texas interstate, Hong Kong harbor, etc.

8. Hundreds of factions. From all around the world. Both real and fictional.

9. Setting: Modern day.

10. Fully customizable classes. No specialists. Default classes handle a specific role on the battlefield but can be modified. You can be a medic with a machine gun or a sniper with a rocket launcher. But class specific gear and gadgets exist to help you do your job better.

>>715465256
Alan Kertz is the retard that killed Battlefield V with attrition and TTK changes btw. TTK changes came around the time when the game was gaining any attraction too due to pacific update.

>>715466645
Honestly I wouldn't play BF at all if there weren't modes without vehicles or infantry only maps. Battlefield fails to reach to the height of CoD because no one wants to die to some heli faggot going 180-0. CoD's metro/locker type maps(shipment/stakeout) are just as cancerous though due to having no breathing room between spawns, at least they removed killstreaks from those maps finally. Shit was unplayable before BO6 due to explosive spam.

>>715467927
>They aren't Battlefield.
I don't care, I just want big map CoD.
>Play CoD
I would but CoD isn't a casual shooter anymore. It's an esports AIDS infested game with metas and ranked and SBMM(in fucking casual playlist). Battlefield is still a true casual shooter.

>>715428649 (OP)
Add dinosaurs

>>715468315
>I don't think spread is the solution
Then you don't understand Battlefield gunplay. Spread forces you to pace your shots if you want to engage in distances outside of your gun's ideal distance. If game has no spread it will be like CoD Ground War/Delta Force Hawk Tuah Ops. ARs beaming you across the map. How is that shit fun? Spread + damage falloff assures you won't be able to do that.
>BFV random recoil
Terrible system that massively reduces skill gap. Makes full automatics unreliable past 10 meters.

>>715481867
how has dino mode not been added yet?

>>715465168
Is that actually true?

>>715475705
>Better than a esports zoomer sweatlord with no job winning every single gunfight
Skill issue: the post. If you have issues with dying to meta weapons in BF games you clearly haven't played them enough. Not saying BF doesn't have meta but in all the BF games you can beat meta players with off-meta weapons. TTK is fast in BF games and your position determines 90% of the gunfights. I remember playing matches while sitting at the top of the scoreboard with 60-70 kills while using shit like M1941 Johnson in BFV, worst DMR, arguably worst Assault weapon in the game.

>>715473416
>V felt like the least team oriented game I played
You didn't liked the vehicle/infantry attrition that made you rely on your teammates to even heal yourself to 100 hp???

>>715477930
>Did they ever make a better version of Metro that didn't devolve into a single chokepoint grindfest?
Yes, in 2042. It's called Redacted.

>>715428649 (OP)
>Force all kb&m players to play on controller to make snipers equally worthless across the board
>Jets are disabled with a single rocket if hit in the engines or anywhere in the middle frame
>Helicopters are disabled in one rocket hit to the rotary blades or tail
>Jets/Helicopters have a minimum of 3 flare uses, 4 with an upgrade, before they have to land to restock more
>Tanks are SIGNIFICANTLY slower to repair with a torch outside of their base spawn location
Boom, just saved the game from sweaty fucking losers in 5 changes

Nigger.

>be me a decade ago
>want to play a chill round on noshar tdm
>Medic ScarL
>get farmed by scrubs and tryhards using M16A3, AEK, FAMAS...
>equip M5K
>pic rel
>proceed to rape the server
>get autoballanced twice
>still loose
>the only person that can outkill me is myself
>2deep4you

please more of this
also

Most modern piece of tech should be javeline, fuck any active/passive whatever bullshit

>>715428649 (OP)
BFBC2 was the last good BF game. It will never be a good franchise ever again. BF3 started a downward spiral into irrelevance and DICE won't listen to the people who play the games.

>>715428649 (OP)
>multiplayer only
>4 class formula, no super special snowflake operators, everyone is a grunt
>customizable grunt skins, but 95% of unlocks are unlocked through grinding
>stable dedicated servers
>more large maps that aren't wide open sniperfests.
>Maps with chokepoints and interior sections
>Bad Company 2 destruction
>well optimized so toasters can run it. If you fuckers want 100 million players, it better run silky smooth on an Xbox series S.
It won't happen, but that's the bare minimum.

>>715486086
>>4 class formula, no super special snowflake operators, everyone is a grunt
I'm open to squad leaders getting abilities they can use for their squad as well as a commander role

>>715477428
Make the recoil pattern random, not like counter strike

>>715441096
i hate treyarch designs so damn much. they need to fire all their artists and just keep the gameplay people

>>715428649 (OP)
It seems like it'll be alright, the only thing I'm not thrilled about is the Operator shit still but the fact it seems to play like MW2019 mixed with Battlefield destruction is unironically a good thing. Also they should stop pussyfooting and bring back the Chinese and MEC

support and medic being combined is going to be so fucking horrible to play against. it's literally just assault but not only does it have a med bag, but you also get ammo AND defib. wtf