Do you respect plus frames /v/?

Never heard of it but the note sounds like fighting game faggotry

I don't actually know what plus frames are all I know are "can I combo out of this", "If they block this I eat shit" and "If they block this it's ok"

>>715437681
Its just a shorthand way to refer to frame advantage and disadvantage.
Understanding which moves you can act out of before or after your opponent is something you can build an intuition for, but some people get autistic about it and want to know the specific framedata so they can optimize their followups.

>>715437494 (OP)
I only respect minus on hit.

>>715437494 (OP)
You gotta make me respect them

>>715437494 (OP)
No and I mash DP in -3 situations that I put myself in

>>715438008
Good ol green hand

>>715437494 (OP)
I disrespect you and the rest is just cope because you got disrespected

>>715437494 (OP)
>fighting games
Sorry I'm White.

>>715437494 (OP)
depends on if i think the guy is going to do something i can mash on or not

>>715437523
it is fighting game faggotry.
you see, you can only play 100% by the rules and never do something unexpected because that makes YOU the scrub, not the god tier player who can't handle some randomness
"it was my turn" means you shouldn't have mashed that super and win the round you scrub

>>715437494 (OP)
Respect has to be earned.

>>715438665
Gandhi (Ryu) vs FSP (Rufus)

>>715438665
there is not scrub or not
if it works it works

pros mash all the time when they think it could work

>>715438783
correct, that's why the pro's are scrubs
you see, I studied the frame data and mashing dp when it's not your turn makes you a bad player and since pros mash dp they're srubs.
You see, I'm clever and always right

>>715438782
a classic

>>715438782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEVcZ3anG0

What is it about fighting games that attracts this kind of subhuman

>>715439106
that's racist

>>715439024
why is the rufus player dropping everything

>>715439024
why does he get hit by jump in normal to sweep all the time

>>715439261
because he can't handle losing to this ryu.

modern fighting games frame data is disgusting
it's so by the numbers there is no room for serendipity

>>715439373
it's boring

>>715439346
because he expects the scrub to play like a pro

>>715439456
i know, main reason i don't play shit anymore, in sfv it was kinda fun but now every game doing it is just boring, there's no room for "playing by feel" instead you just "play by memory"

>>715439024
>>715438960
>>715438782
FSP became a tranny
I'm not even joking

>>715439523
what option gets beat by jump in slow low
he's not even being CH from what i remember

>do a move
>I'm plus
>decided to sidestep
>guy yolos a hopkick
>get hit in to a launcher because they track
Guess the game

>>715439616
He's a mid player thinking he should be up there with the best. Like ltg not being able to adapt to different players. a technical player without real skill

I don't care, I'm mashing DP whenever I can because I have it
PANZAAAA

>>715439024
Why Rufus didnt spacetrap that Ryu spamming DPs with gapless blockstrings (hence, making it whiff) ?

>>715439798
because >>715439746

>>715439746
that doesn't answer my question
i know he's bad, just not what he was even trying to do

>>715439610
HRT has hit autismos harder than crack hit blacks desu

>>715437494 (OP)
I can count the times I've labbed something in my entire life on one hand.

>>715439346
tranny scrub getting rushed down

>>715439523
you used the terminology wrong there
fsp is the scrub

>>715439852
he lost his cool and stopped thinking. that should answer your question.

>>715439798
tranny doesn't know how to play

>>715440080
the commentator also talks how he's new to playing offline tournaments so he's constantly angry at the public reacting

>>715440036
in his mind he wasn't, that's what went wrong.
he should be able to beat players like that with ease, lost his mind and became the scrub, yes

>>715440130
he should've brought headphones

>>715439841
>>715439760
Yeah i was talking about something like this;

>>715437494 (OP)
Only when I know that a move I just blocked is plus, which is not that often.

>>715441658
why would one DP like that? Jin's too far away in order for that to hit

>>715442313
blazpoo players don't have a brain

>>715442385
I guess that makes sense. Dunno about the other guys, but I certainly don't have one of those things, called "brain"

>>715442385
TRVE

Remedial yolo mashing bums

>>715438665
it just means you dropped your combo

>>715444581
it doesn't

>>715444764
then why are things happening the way they are instead of the other way

>>715444878
Got his ass

I'm too much of a brainlet for frame data and neutral. I just mash constantly and use my massive health pool to cover for my mistakes, and if I win one interaction you get put in the blender. If I lose too many interactions, it's wake up super time and there's a 90% chance you're low enough from chip damage to die from that. I wasn't going to win any tourneys but this was embarrassingly effective online even before goldick was OP

>>715444878
because I guessed wrong, not because I dropped anything

>>715445209
Striver

Turns aren't real.

>>715439024
>some random flojo getting one set out of a good player that had 1 in a million chance of happening
idk why people glaze this clip so much if FSP would calm his soi hormones and play like 1st round of 2nd match he would mop the floor with ghandi

if you play fighting games you are already retarded, so nothing you do matters. do whatever you want.

>>715437494 (OP)
shit like this only drives new players away from fighting games
>"oh hey, if i do X in response to Z i can beat the strategy!"
>"NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT! THE COMMUNITY'S ARBITRARY RULES SAY THAT IF I DO Z YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO X!"
>"why not?"
>"BECAUSE IT BEATS Z!"
>"yeah. thats why i do it. its the only way to beat Z"
>"REEEEEEEEEE SCRUB!!!!!!!!!"

I can mash your brains over the streets IRL, that's what truly matters in life.

>>715438665
>>715437494 (OP)
I don't get it, if they're plus doesn't that mean the plus guy wouldn't be able to get it? Isn't that what plus means? Their move is faster than all your moves?

>>715449191
>if FSP would calm his soi hormones and play like 1st round of 2nd match he would mop the floor with ghandi
The fact that he didn't is why the clip gets reposted so much.

>>715437681
honestly, that's all you need

>>715439616
blocked jumpin into back walk to create distance?
maybe backdash? i'm not too keen on sf4 shit
anyway, most people should block low after blocking a jumpin like that

Being +1 or -1 didn't really matter much at all until they started adding input buffers and reducing pushback in fighting games. Now everyone's buttons come out on the first possible frame.

>>715449858
it probably implies that the guy whining about plus frames is too slow to act on it anyway (because it's 2 frames of advantage lol)

>>715437681
and thats all you need to know. frame
data boils down to knowing what is your best punish in each situation and all that can be learned by just playing the game.

>>715437494 (OP)
ur only minus if ur a bich

>>715439624
dude, there's like, 2 3D fighting game in existence and one of them is fucking virtua fighter.
also i'm not sure if VF uses hopkick as a term.

Good ass tekken

>>715441658
in SF truly gapless blockstrings are almost non-existent beyond big normal xx fast special.

for retards spamming DP you have to hard bait it by blocking and waiting

>>715449858
it means they got greedy and tried to frametrap with a move with a significantly longer startup than the plus frames allowed in that situation

>>715437494 (OP)
I'm ending my blockstring with a -1 right in your face just so I can knowledge check you with a throw, faggot. If you throw break we'll be back to plus-minus zero and I can press my far poke, my crushing heavy or neutral skip specials all over again. And if you DP I'm ok with that because we're playing Granblue and that puts your DP on cooldown so you won't press it on the next interaction.

>>715439624
Should have sidestepped to other side dingus

>>715451271
Shut up grubbler you are below everyone in fighting game player rankings don't speak about your temu baby game in my presence

>>715437494 (OP)
no
i love gambling like a retard
i love how you can tell how it makes autists instantly mad by how they play after they lose the gamble
i love cheap wins

>>715449858
Being plus means you have the advantage, but it doesn't guarantee a combo or win you the next clash by itself.
They other guy may have used a risky invincible move in-between the attacker's moves (i.e. mashed a shoryuken of a super move)

>>715451271
I spot dodge

>>715451883
I love doing a move that leaves me in minus, followed by a raw superwhatever, and making it work.

>>715437494 (OP)
I'm DPing on wake up every time. I'm also DPing on your wake up. Are we in neutral? Yep, I'm also DPing there.

>>715437681
Plus and minus is pretty much just quantifying how much of each of those you are at a given moment.
>can I combo out of this
You're super plus
>if they block this I eat shit
Because if they block this you're like -16
>if they block this it's ok
Because it's like -1 or -2 on block and they don't have a move that has a hitbox out in that few frames

>>715449858
if you're plus and you press your fastest move it'll beat the opponent so your opponent will probably block, therefore you can press a way slower move that'll put you in a better position, and this happens a lot. but if your opponent presses their fastest button there then you'll get hit.
like if I do sf6 luke's famously +1 on block cmp twice in a row it feels really oppressive but the 6 frame startup means theres 5 frames inbetween and you can press your 4 frame move to beat it.

>>715437494 (OP)
Is it me or SF6 has fucked up plus frames? I can barely respond when my opponent keeps attacking me. That was never the case in previous sf games. You could clearly see when the time is right to counter attack

>>715452932
you got old

>>715453024
True, but I still play good 3rd strike in fightcade. Something is wrong with sf6.

im plus until proven otherwise, in which case i go into a fugue state and i'm plus again.

>>715452932
The animations are overly fluid and less "snappy." They're not designed with the idea of a player being able to intuit when exactly an attack ends or when someone 'recovers' from an attack. One of the many reasons the game stinks.

>>715452932
sf6 has very few plus on block moves. you get plus frames from drive rush but that's much easier to react to of course, just don't press after they hit you with green. keeping track of when you can press is easier than ever in 6 but keeping track of the spacing so you dont get wish punished is harder imo. the pushback is all over the place

>>715451967
So you get thrown

>>715437681
If the game is well animated you can guesstimate a lot from body languaje.

>>715455740
skill issue

>>715452932
You're just experiencing the wonders of rollback.

>>715455740
idom is such a whiny bitch hahahha

>>715449858
>this is how good /v/ is ay fighting games
Kek

>>715458992
Anon, it's much worse than you think. A person that understands "plus means their moves will come out faster" is already ahead of 90% of /v/.

>>715437494 (OP)
This isn't how you use that image

>>715460536
It's literally how you use that image

>>715437523
FPBP

>>715437494 (OP)
Fighting game naggers: BTFO.

>>715461634
The whole point of the meme is the "He's giving ME the creeps" part

>opponent DPs on plus frames
>his own plus frames
never let anyone know your next move

>>715465094
Wow you beat gold modern akuma that was probably playing after his shift at amazon gz

>>715465360
I like posts like this because you know the people posting them aren't even past bronze.

>>715465094
don't let the other guy discourage you. just due to the fact that you noticed that interaction means you're going to improve.
do you golds even use drive rush down there?
legitimate question, because manon without drive rush cancels has exactly 0 combos

>>715466091
blud is flexing he is gold

>>715437494 (OP)
Nigga if you were really plus, you would've hit me when I mashed. You either timed your shit wrong or you created a gap in pressure when attempting a mixup.

>>715466340
This dude probably hasn't even touched ranked

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBD0XDrKlI

frame data is for autists

>>715466665
i remember Banana Ken

>>715466195
I'm already in Masters, I just have a couple characters in really low ranks from when I gave them a try after buying the game
>do you golds even use drive rush down there?
You see it on people that are obviously on their second character or more

>>715467084
sf6 has per character ranks?

>>715467175
Yes

>>715467175
It does, but your placements are also influenced by what your highest rank currently is
So if you're Master, you can't get placed below Diamond 1, but if you placed something in Silver then it's still going to be there once you've climbed up

>>715467213
that's the first positive thing I read about that game

>>715467315
You should try playing it instead of listening to shitposters on /v/

>>715439024
salty niggers like him deserve to be stabbed in the parking lot